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Ryan Reece Philosopy
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@Reece101
Oh look, the guy has my name..
Tho not your icon. He is a pencil neck. I came across his stuff, found it fascinatingly thorough/comprehensive,  so thought I should share.


.... ' About me
I am an experimental particle physicist working with the ATLAS experiment at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) at CERN near Geneva, Switzerland. I do a lot of programming and a bit of traveling. I am especially interested in fundamental physics, data science, statistical inference, philosophy of science, and travel. '...


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Exploration always comes with potential for mental { Meta-space }  peril ---ex ego death-- 

My saying ' ego death ' was inaccurate in this circumstance. My bad.

Stepping outside of our Meta-space comfort zone would have been more appropriate.
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Ryan Reece Philosopy
My Spirit-1,  Meta-space primary three-ness

Relative truth,  Absolute truth, False Narrative

Ryan Reece layout is multi-layered
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@FLRW
Morals of Poker.  10. Everyone is full of shit

I listened to winning poker player and he stated it is all about reading the other persons face etc. i.e. knowing when their bluffing { shit } or not.


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You're run in(s) with the police.
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@zedvictor4
@Mall
Zed.. " B. Those that tend to have run ins with the Police."..

Good-C1} first time I had sex { 17 yrs of age }  was in the Chief of Police's personal car in our service station shop, also went out on tow truck call by this Chief of Police who was drunk and asking my boss to help arrest some woman,

Bad-B1 }  worst [ cost me time and $ } was Chicago city police when I made a right turn at intersection with a light, with sign stating no left turn ---that I didnt see--, so they look at my license { valid in every way } and say it is invalid, and tell me to follow them to police station. Once there, the man behind desk checks their computer system { 1970's ? }  and says my license is invalid and to come to court in four months.

So I live 800 miles away, and come back for court, and the judge has this person come over and talk to him, then tells me dismissed, pay $10. court fee. I was ready to explode!. Had 2nd traffic { illegal u-turn } run in with Chicago police and he was extremmely pissed { tho know danger was present } and I have like six kids with me in car, and he says, if you didnt have those kids with you, I would run in too the police station.

Bad-2 } 2nd worst was hitchhiking at ---age 22  or so-- on interstate { wide shoulders } and this cop pulls over,  --may have given me a ticket, I forget--  and I forget what he said to me, but my reply was I had hitchhiked over 10,000 miles at no financial cost to me, to which he replied you go over there and climb over the fence boundary to the interstate, and walk to nearest town and use state roads [ no shoulder at all },

Good-bad C2 } hitchhikeing in Kansas was worst day ever ---only go 300 miles---, as first thing in early AM after riding all night on interstate in back of pkup truck, we get out of truck just before the exit ramp, and helmeted police pull behind us, tell us to get back in truck, and driver to take us off interstate, so then, they leave, we come back on entry ramp to interstate, and I have shaved head, no shirt, rainbow suspenders, shower curtain and sleeping bag tied together over my shoulder, and off away from the other five people who rode all nigh in pku truck, and  immediately,

...a differrent cops pull over and talk to other group of five , and one cop talks to me.  Then they say nothing about getting off interstate.  So four of the other five people get a ride and the one remaining dude comes over, and I ask what did the police say, and they say, what do they know about the weirdo { me }?

So, then he and I get a ride, we get dropped off on interstate  some few miles later,  and a cop car pulls over behind us, and this other dude with jumps the fence and takes off running through the field. So the cop asks me, why did he do that? I say, I have no idea why.  Dont really know him that well. So he tells me how there had been a few various murders of late in Kansas  

note: "In Cold Blood ' Truman Capote true documentary book took place in Holcomb Kansas in 1959

So this cop tells me to be careful, pulls away and I keep hitchiking on interstate, again. So this car pulls over in front of me, I run and jump in front seat, and I turn around to see who is person in back seat, and it is the dude who jumped the fence and ran. I said hey man, that cop wanted to know why you did that, so the dude says to me, its ok, this person driving is off duty cop.

So we get ride and whatever, this guy gets a ride later and eventually at twilight I finally get a ride out of state of Kansas and get left off at 10PM at night and it is snowing, and I have a this piss poor sleeping bag to keep me warm as I walk to nearest motel.

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Unification Via Chill Factor { Chill Out Dude }
Waves { fields } and particles { quanta }

/\/\/\/\/*\/\/\/\/*\/\/\/\/

Wave is a Meta-space/conceptual pattern

Quanta { * } is discrete finite measurement of locality { circular finite rotation } within a field of momentum/motion/flow when the mojo moves us to act.

Rotation aka spin induced as 2D great circles or 3D great tori.
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@JoeBob
The video I understood better,
Good to hear

but the words you said just didn’t make sense to me, sorry.

You and I are like most people who fear stepping outside of the classical box of understanding. It is strange foreign/new world to them and much safer to stay within the boundaries, or at least near the boundaries of accepted thought processes.

Exploration always comes with potential for mental { Meta-space }  peril ---ex ego death--  or,

  actual { physical reality } peril--- ex "One of the most well-known explorers to have died in Antarctica was Captain Robert Falcon Scott. Scott's expedition of five men died in 1912 "---

I became fixated on Bucky Fullers { 1895-1982 } thought processes beginning with his book Critical Path around 1984.
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Ryan Reece Philosopy
While exploring wave-particle duality I came across this Ryan Reece persons philosophy page and this is one of my favorites from that page.

..." Reductionism:  the metaphysical thesis that reality is heirarchal and there is no downward causation"...

His downward is more correctly/scientifically  presented as lower vs higher.
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[AMA Thread] Dr. Michael Huemer, Professor of philosophy
R-man... " The military would be the biggest gang. That's all. "...
Military fits description of a cult.
..." A cult is an organized group whose purpose is to dominate cult members through psychological manipulation and pressure strategies. 1 Cults are usually headed by a powerful leader who isolates members from the rest of society. Some individuals who join cults remain lifelong members. "

Military is opposite of disorderly anarchy.

At age 20 or so I took physical to join the Navy, and at the last thing they presented me with twice, was my signing over my ass --actually is giving away rights to USA constitution over to a military constitution--  to the USA military, and that this was my last chance to step out of line and leave.  So I stepped out of line --I seem to recall we were standing in our underwear still, maybe a false memory--- and left building.

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[AMA Thread] Dr. Michael Huemer, Professor of philosophy
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@Bones
P1. If the big guns always win, the US would have won against North Vietnam. 

Survival of the fittest and the USA still survives, as does Vietnam.

P2. The US did not win against North Vietnam

.." When did Vietnam become capitalist?

... In 1986 Vietnam launched a political and economic renewal campaign (Doi Moi) that introduced reforms intended to facilitate the transition from a centrally planned economy to form of market socialism officially termed "Socialist-oriented market economy." Doi Moi combined economic planning with free-market incentives .."...


..." I’m in Vietnam right now. I’m not sure what I was expecting, having read a great deal about Vietnam’s more recent history (specifically its 20th-century history). What I found - what I see around me every day - is a pretty normal, functional capitalist society. It seems just about everyone is an entrepreneur of one kind or another. Of course, there are tell-tale signs of the communist old guard, but they don’t ever feel overbearing or intrusive.

I’m not Vietnamese and I didn't grow up here, nor was I educated here - so obviously this is an outsider’s view (I’m from England). I see a demographically young, dynamic country with a fairly robust infrastructure (and improving fast) and a massive workforce engaged in most of the same kinds of jobs and careers you’d expect to find in any democratic nation around the world.

Vietnam is going places and perhaps in another twenty years, it will have finally shed the last vestiges of its communist past and will truly emerge into the SE Asia family of nations as one of its most dynamic economic powerhouses. It has all the potential to do so, in my opinion. Indeed, I think for younger Vietnamese, assuming stability and growth remains constant, I think there is an exciting future ahead for Vietnam."..

Anarchy has governing principles, depending on the various factors/circumstances.

1} the peoples/cultures choice,

2} survival of the fittest, --and that may also be the smartest { tho not in circumstances of the  Cambodia Killing Fields }...

3} chance i.e. being in right place at right time to fill a niche of needs --ex some sitting on land gold mine---, or desires of the people/culture { see #1 }.

4} gansterland { R-man knows } --- see Russia after fall of Soviet Union and to this day of oligarchs----- ergo survival of the deadliest top to bottom heirarchy.


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Weisselburg >< Trumpet = Lack of Moral Integrity
Trumpet Judge { poop-head } reverses herself to save face and her appointed job integrity

..." Cannon, a Trump appointee, reversed herself Tuesday, agreeing that special counsel Jack Smith had been correct and that there is indeed no public right to know, at this stage, the identities of people who might testify against the former president.
“[T]he bottom line is this,” Cannon wrote in a 24-page order: the “most faithful” reading of the law and precedent suggests “this case is not subject to a public right of access” because it is still in the discovery phase. In other words, Trump won’t be armed with the names of potentially two dozen government witnesses, meaning he’ll have to find other grist for Truth Social.

That’s a stark reversal from two months ago.
Back in February, Cannon sided with Trump’s attorneys (and a group of media organizations) in ruling that a “strong presumption of in favor of public access” required unsealing documents that could out witnesses in the case. She explicitly rejected concerns about “witness safety and intimidation,” arguing that the special counsel had failed to substantiate fears that the former president and his allies would do what they have done in just about every legal proceeding. "


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Weisselburg >< Trumpet = Lack of Moral Integrity
2nd sentencing of 5 months for Trumpets lack of moral integrity lawyer Weisselburg.  ...' Feathers of Immoral birds stick together like  poop on our soul of our shoes '... since Weisselburg says nothing to implicate lack of moral integrity Trumpet boss.  How many poop-heads voted for Trumpet? 6 million poop-heads.  And do any  still wonder where humanity is headed for?

Remember when  Gary Harts run for president stopped because of infidelity? ..." How Scandal Derailed Gary Hart’s Presidential Bid
Hart dropped out of the 1988 presidential race after journalists reported on one of his many affairs. "...

So from 1988 to 2000 { poop begins } 2016 { poop elected } > 2020 { poop fails } > poop still sticking to soul of USA shoes

..." Weisselberg has worked for Trump’s family since 1973 when he was employed as an accountant for the former president’s father, Fred Trump, before going on to work with Donald Trump.

...Despite his legal challenges, he has continued to stand by the former president and has failed to directly implicate him.
After leaving the Trump Organization, he came to an agreement to receive a $2 million in a severance package as long as he didn’t cooperate with any probes unless he was legally compelled to. The company is also footing his legal bills. "..

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@JoeBob
Best you begin with one line of text at a time.  Ex the first line, as i'm here for you when your sincerely interested in understanding.

Also see post #3 ...or not.... for additional elaboration on the topics.

Also I just found this utube for Mobius Strip. Blow your mind, or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvHNatZgVI


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Euler > Riemann > Homology { Betti Numbers }
Eric Weisstein: " A hole in a mathematical object is a topological structure which prevents the structure from being continuously shrunk  to a point"

..." There are many ways to measure holes in a space. Some holes are picked up by homotopy groups that are not detected by homology groups, and some holes are detected by homology groups that are not picked up by homotopy groups. (For example, in the torus, homotopy groups "miss" the two-dimensional hole that is given by the torus itself, but the second homology group picks that hole up.) In addition, homology groups don't detect the varying hole structures of the complement of knots in three-space, but the first homotopy group (the fundamental group) does. "....


...space (   )(  ) space..... bisection of a torus and the hole is the space between the two inner lines ....)here(......

Here..v......first hole in space
.......(  )(  )....
Here..^......first hole in space

However, there exists the 2nd hole and that is the 3D tube of the torus, that, becomes evident as a hole, once the torus tube is sliced open. Doing this disavows the existence of the first hole-in-space, because, we can then cut a slice in the 3D tube/hole and it is a curved square i.e. a torus, that does not have its tube/hole connected, is same topology as a 2D square [  ].

A 2D square area/plane, like a 3D polyhedron ...ex 3-fold tetrahedron, 4-fold cubo-octa{ hexa }-hedron, and 5-fold icosa{20}hedron---- can be shrunk to a single point, --mathematically---  whereas a torus cannot.

Animals are like a 5 holed torus. ex two nostril { tube to lungs } , two ear canals { tube to brain }, mouth-anus { digestive track tube } that has two 2D holes and is primary example of animal as a torus.

..." Which of the following groups of animals is having tube in tube body plan?
  1. Sponges
  2. Ctenophores
  3. Coelenterates (Cnidarians)
  4. Aschelminthes (Round worms) "...

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3} Eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe;

.....3a} Spirit-2, fermionic matter and bosonic forces, ....quantized.....

.....3b} Spirit-3, ultra-micro, occupied space Gravity (  ) .....contractive/attractive/convergent.....

......3c} Spirit-4 ultra-micro { non-quantized } Dark Energy )( ....expansive/repulsive/divergent...

The list of cosmic, sub-catagorical three-ness Ive posted before, I have no document to copy and past for reference.

Arthur Young cosmic version { The Reflexive Universe }  was based on seven-ness as associated with an derived from torus four lines of convergence { 0-3 } and divergence { 4-7 } as derived from his four lines { 0v-1v--v2--3v - ^4-^5-^6-^7 }

Bucky Fullers cosmic version was base on 3-fold { tetra structural integrity }, 4-fold { cubo-octa-hexa operational integrity } and 5-fold { penta alternate systemic integrity } and that is a cosmic three-ness.

 However, those three do no appear to be considerate of a torus topology, at least in Synergetics { for the most part }. My approach resulted in regarding 2-dimensional great circle planes as 3-D great tori.  It was sort of similar way that Jim Lehman took the 1D radii and chords of 0-1 frequency VE and expanded them as 3D PODs { Euclidean and Curved }.

..." But in topology, shapes are flexible things, as if made from rubber. A topologist is free to stretch and twist a shape. Even cutting and gluing are allowed, as long as the cut is precisely reglued. A sphere and a cube are distinct geometric objects, but to a topologist, they’re indistinguishable. If you want a mathematical justification that a T-shirt and a pair of pants are different, you should turn to a topologist, not a geometer. The explanation: They have different numbers of holes. "....

..."For instance, in 1813 the Swiss mathematician Simon Lhuilier recognized that if we punch a hole in a polyhedron to make it more donut-shaped, changing its topology, then VE + F = 0. "...

..." Bernhard Riemann was studying surfaces that arose in his study of complex numbers. He observed that one way of counting holes was by seeing how many times the object could be cut without producing two pieces.......A straw can be cut once without disconnecting it, and a hollow torus can be cut twice."...

..." Notable among these was the concept of homology, which Poincaré introduced to generalize Riemann’s ideas to higher dimensions. Through homology, Poincaré aimed to capture everything from Riemann’s one-dimensional circle-like holes in a straw or binder paper, to the two-dimensional cavity-like holes inside Swiss cheese, and beyond to higher dimensions. The number of these holes — one for each dimension — became known as the Betti numbers of the object in honor of Enrico Betti, a friend of Riemann’s who had attempted similar work."...

....." The torus shows us how to visualize Betti numbers. We can produce infinitely many nontrivial loops on one, and they can wind, double back and wrap around multiple times before ending at their starting point. But rather than producing a chaotic mess, these loops possess an elegant mathematical structure. "...


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Woman more Complex than Man { Bing Copilot
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@TheUnderdog
This is not the orginal experiments I read about, however, they come to a conclusion that suggests women brains more complex than males in general.

..." The brains of women in the study were significantly more active in many more areas of the brain than men, especially in the prefrontal cortex, involved with focus and impulse control, and the limbic or emotional areas of the brain, involved with mood and anxiety. The visual and coordination centers of the brain were more active in men. "
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Unification Via Chill Factor { Chill Out Dude }
Go to 1:30 time stamp to see science fiction graphic of dymaxion car in this PBS Space-Time episode.
....note: barring black holes, neutron stars { aka pulsars } are the most extreme celestial objects.....

And since I'm here, I want to remind the reader that with many of these celestial spheroids, we have magnetic toroids surrounding them.

...space (  )(  ) space....... i.e. the cross-section of the minimal,  Quantum Space-time torus { 18 nodal events and 153 lines-of-inter-relationship } of Universe. Or so I speculate.
 
Recalling also that,
.... This 153 number does  set off one alert of association in my knowledge base. Ex, if I believe the finite set of chemical elements in Universe is 2 * 92 { 92 easily visible ergo positive } regenerative elements, that is 184 { 92 positive and 92 negative ergo, a symmetry }.
 
However, just now, for first time{ 3/26/23 }, I subtracted 153 from 184 and got the prime number 31p. That is tantalizing since there exists two {left and right } skewed versions of the 5-fold icosahedrons, 31 left and 31 right-skew sets of great circles, and, some animals{ ex humans } have 31 bilateral { left and right } set of spinal nerves.
 
And recall that, 31 stays prime for six iterations i.e. 31p > 331p > 3,331p  > 33,331p > 333,331p > 3,333,331p and that totals 7 digits/integers in the final set of 3,333,331.
 
And recall that, Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66........... and take recall that the number 7 occurs on the overall 7th numerical location and that is inclusive of both rational numerical side and the irrational decimal side.  We may say that mixing rational and irrational is likened to mixing oranges and apples. Maybe so, yet I leave only some non-sense stones out of consideration,  as they not or much less of significance.


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@Barney
Would you be interested in doing a writeup of this thread for its Hall of Fame entry?

Hi Barney. I think that would be for someone interested in reviewing most of the posts to ascertain a considerate, overall view of its 35 pages of entries.

I would think Mharman is first or choice for that.  I presume they have posted in this thread more than anyone else, and followed it closer. I dunno.

Random thoughts { revised comment } post #1044:
...it is only the inability of Meta-space mind, to find the order, because of the extreme, ultra-micro scales of existence, that pertain to the   inter-relationships of Gravity (  ) and Dark Energy )(  which results in an ultra-large set of inter-relationships, that are far beyond any instrumentation to ever discern an orderly pattern. However, it may not be beyond a mathematical formula to estimate the amount of such inter-relationships of those those two primary phenomena of Universe. I dunno.

..." An interrelationship is a close relationship between two or more things or people. "......

....space (  )(  ) space....... i.e. the cross-section of the minimal,  Quantum Space-time torus { 18 nodal events and 153 lines-of-inter-relationship } of Universe. Or so I speculate.

Recalling also that,
.... This 153 number does  set off one alert of association in my knowledge base. Ex, if I believe the finite set of chemical elements in Universe is 2 * 92 { 92 easily visible ergo positive } regenerative elements, that is 184 { 92 positive and 92 negative ergo, a symmetry }.

However, just now, for first time{ 3/26/23 }, I subtracted 153 from 184 and got the prime number 31p. That is tantalizing since there exists two {left and right } skewed versions of the 5-fold icosahedrons, 31 left and 31 right-skew sets of great circles, and, some animals{ ex humans } have 31 bilateral { left and right } set of spinal nerves.

And recall that, 31 stays prime for six iterations i.e. 31p > 331p > 3,331p  > 33,331p > 333,331p > 3,333,331p and that totals 7 digits/integers in the final set of 3,333,331.

And recall that, Pi^3 = 31.00 62 7 66........... and take recall that the number 7 occurs on the overall 7th numerical location and that is inclusive of both rational numerical side and the irrational decimal side.  We may say that mixing rational and irrational is likened to mixing oranges and apples. Maybe so, yet I leave only some non-sense stones as insignificant non-sense.






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@Mharman
Driving is fun.

1} cause we may get lost in thoughts aka lost in contemplation of that other than driving,

2} cause we my attempt to maximize our, time via speed and traffic considerations i.e. paying close attention to those aspects instead of lost in contemplation.


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Unification Via Chill Factor { Chill Out Dude }
<<< cool/chill less motion ergo Entropy .....Synergy heat/time more usable motion as energy >>>


Gravity compresses occupied space till it explodes { energy }.

Black hole (  ( 'o' )  ) with neutron star { 'o' } at its core

..." A giant star faces several possible fates when it dies in a supernova. That star can either be completely destroyed, become a black hole, or become a neutron star. "..

time/reality]physical stops?

.." Neutron stars got their name because their cores have such powerful gravity that most positively charged protons and negatively charged electrons in the interior of these stars combine into uncharged neutrons "..


Consciousness '^ ^' as twoness with line of relationships threeness  does not stop existence of occupied space. 'o' rotational consciousness is the at the core of all occupied space existence.

.....outer rotation v (   ) ^ inner rotation ^(   ) v outer rotation...... aka a flow tho not the flow of physical reality time, unless it inverts/invaginates to create the sine-wave flow of physical reality  ------/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/---> ergo usable as energy/observed time
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Something changed in society - Now most people are weak
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@zedvictor4
I was merely suggesting how one might define weakness.

Inability to do work aka no energy.

Energy = ability to do work.

Entropy less work overtime

Synergy more work over time via biologic life { Synergy }.
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@zedvictor4
@FLRW
Then suddenly you're going to chilled. Maybe you need to rethink it.

Agreed R-man { still blocking me }  I was in hurry at time of posting. See the PBS vid for better clarity, or not, at bottom of this page.

1} Thermoydnamics and non-thermodynamic states are complicated, depending: Ex temp increase >>>

>>>...Solid > Liquid > Gas > Plasma { free electrons } > free quark-plasma soup/liquid ex discovery in 90's about early Universe.

2} However, go to 7:12 and begin to grasp how Quantum Chromodynamics  Dynamics { QCD } have there own states/phases of matter er neutronium { 7:48 time stamp }

...Note: Roy Kerr of rotational black hole fame, believes neutron stars may be what exist as core of all black holes...

<<< Absolute { approximately } zero <<<  time crystals appear --see 8:40- time stamp-- ergo <<< superconductivity and Bose-einstein states of matter

Humans less dense are like gas, and when congested more like a liquid.

Max Tegmark says consciousness is likened to states of matter 11:40 time stamp.

This vid explains more clearly than vid in post #1

Entropy spreads out over time aka tends toward maximum { disorder } <<< hot to cold <<< ergo Heat Death of Finite Occupied Space Universe


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Unification Via Chill Factor { Chill Out Dude }
True unification? Go to 13:00 time stamp fro prelude to Bose-Einstein Condensate { 14:00 time stamp }.

So now 6 or so ' states of matter '. I did not name them all in the following, but she does in the vid after 13:00 some where in there.

One-ness { Bose-condenstate } > chilled Helium-4 >  plasma { free electrons   } > gas   > liquid > solid

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Escape to Wales, or Not
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@FLRW
ADOLL thinks you mean escape to whales.

Going back to my planet FLRW.  So long and thanks for all the krill.

Its been a whale of good time seeing Whales from a drone perspective. Thank Go Whales dont fly.

One interesting tidbit in the vid, was there is more castles per square mile in Whales than any other country or species of mammal


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Escape to Wales, or Not
Visions of Wales from a drone perspective.

I recommend skipping to 1:23 for the peaceful musical serenity and landscape opening.

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Do you ever wonder what moron rearranged the months?
R-man still has me blocked.

Janus is ending and beginning < > two faced ergo,  Dec < Janus > Feb

..""" The original Roman year had 10 named months Martius "March", Aprilis "April", Maius "May", Junius "June", Quintilis "July", Sextilis "August", September "September", October "October", November "November", December "December",and probably two unnamed monthsin the dead of winter when not much happened in agriculture. "

..." Numa Pompilius, the second king of Rome circa 700 BC,added the two months Januarius "January" and Februarius "February".He also moved the beginning of the year from Marius to Januarius and changed the number of days in several months to be odd, a lucky number. "...



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Does said theist(s) have a burden of proof for the God they believe in according to their religion?
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@zedvictor4
@Mall
@FLRW
Mall....But I do believe in the existence of Easter and rabbits or bunnies as you call them.
So why does the Easter bunny hide his eggs?
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He dont want knowbody to know his been messing with a chicken.

They only burden is that of life of struggles. We have the non-creator God label aka finite, occupied space Universe, to thank for this life.

And we have the label of a creator God or gods etc.  If some want to define the creator God as pudding, then, the proof is in the pudding. Any chef knows that.

And pudding is an occupied space subset of Universe.  ......space....@......space... wherein @ = finite, occupied space Universe { non-creator of space God }.

1} Spirit-1, Meta-space,

----conceptual line of demarcation--------------

2} macro-infinite, truly non-occupied space,

3} Spirit-2 { Fermionic matter and Bosonic forces},

.......Spirit-3 { Ultra-micro Gravity (  ) } and,

...........4 { ultra-micro } Dark Energy )(.

Are cosmic threes in more abundance than cosmic fours?

/ = lines aka chords or diameters etc

X = crossings aka points or vertexes

/\ = enclosures aka planes or openings or portals

Humans find beauty in curvature, ooh la la
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Do you ever wonder what moron rearranged the months?
R-man still blocking me

.."In ancient Roman religion and myth, Janus (/ˈdʒeɪnəs/ JAY-nəs; Latin: Ianvs [ˈi̯aːnʊs]) is the god of beginnings, gates, transitions, time, duality, doorways, passages, frames, and endings. He is usually depicted as having two faces. "...

Bucky Fuller thought that tho some belived the coins with God of Janus on each side meant two faced liar, Fuller thought it meant that some sea-peoples knew you could sail off in on direction go around the Earth/World to come back an meet yourself at same location.

..."Roman god of doorways, of beginnings
[ jey-nuhs ] show ipa. noun. an ancient Roman god of doorways, of beginnings, and of the rising and setting of the sun, usually represented as having one head with two bearded faces back to back, looking in opposite directions. Astronomy. "....

..." What represents Janus?
Janus represents the past and the future; he is the god of gates and doorways, the entry to new beginnings. The ancient Romans held feasts and offered sacrifices to Janus, promising more virtuous behavior in the hope of receiving favor in the new year. "...

..." What animal is associated with Janus?
The Double-Headed Eagle: The double-headed eagle symbolizes duality, representing the two faces of Janus looking in opposite directions. It signifies the dual nature of transitions and the ability to simultaneously look back to the past and forward to the future. "...

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There is a secret way to earn all the medals in 2 days except for the King of the Hill one.
R-Man.....Voice sounds like from black person, not white. And R-man still blocking me

Rare Earth was only white band who got produced by Motown

..." To clear up a long time false statement that Rare Earth was the only white act to ever be signed with Motown, Rare Earth was the one and only successful white band to be signed with Motown. Rare Earth was with Motown from 1968 to 1978. Motown wanted an album from Rare Earth immediately after signing. "...

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@TheUnderdog
Your argument is, "Females have more DNA, therefore they are more complex"
UDOG, I think you have left out of some of the context of my comments. Why? I stated numerically more complex. When you grasp numerically complexity in regards to 3 vs 4 or 2 vs 6 etc, please get back to me.

Some salmanders have more genetic nucleic material than humans do.  Maybe that is why they can loose a leg and grow it back, and in that one specific way, they may be more complex than human, yet humans --via access to Meta-space mind/intellect--- can create artifical limbs, and parts of hearts, and fly to the moon so and so on.

If you think onions, salmanders, monkeys or cetacceans are more complex than humans and specifically female humans, then I think your in error.  None of those have the degree of access to Meta-space mind/intelligence/concepts and ego that humans do.

Previously I mentioned that women had more more bilateral action between both hemi-spheres of the brain, when asked a series of questions. I read that back in the 90s,

then in last 10 years or so, I read, that, tho that was true, these other experiments show that men, showed more activity in one the other hemi-sphere, than women, ergo, their conclusion was neither man nor woman was more or less complex than the other, since there was similar amount of brain activity.

I disagree with that conclusion, since the two hemi-spheres are not equal in all respects, and for woman to have more bilateral action, between both hemi-spheres, infers/implies/suggests more complex functioning.



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1 ] Perhaps and aborted X

2} Perhaps genetic material from space

3] Perhaps random mutation ..in some ways similar to #1

4} a niche for diversity after millions of years of trying, led to greater biodiversity
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Good poems/rap verses/book excerpts (do not troll)
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@Username
" Dont Worry Be Happy..Bobby McFerrin

Here's a little song I wrote
You might want to sing it note for note
Don't worry, be happy
In every life we have some trouble
But when you worry, you make it double
Don't worry, be happy
Don't worry, be happy now
Don't worry
(Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Be happy
(Ooh-ooh-ooh) Don't worry, be happy
(Ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Don't worry
(Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Be happy
(Ooh-ooh-ooh) Don't worry, be happy
Ain't got no place to lay your head
Somebody came and took your bed
Don't worry, be happy
The landlord say your rent is late
He may have to litigate
Don't worry, be happy (look at me, I'm happy)
Don't worry
(Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Be happy
(Ooh-ooh-ooh) Hey I give you my phone number
When you worry, call me, I make you happy
(Ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Don't worry
(Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Be happy
(Ooh-ooh-ooh)
Ain't got no cash, ain't got no style
Ain't got no gal to make you smile
But don't worry, be happy
'Cause when you worry your face will frown
And that will bring everybody down
So don't worry, be happy
Don't worry, be happy now
Don't worry
(Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Be happy
(Ooh-ooh-ooh) Don't worry, be happy
(Ooh, ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Don't worry
(Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh) Be happy
(Ooh-ooh-ooh) Don't worry, be happy
Now there is this song I wrote
I hope you learned it note for note, like good little children
Dn't worry, be happy
Now listen to what I said, in your life expect some trouble
But when you worry, you make it double
But don't worry, be happy, be happy now

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@7000series
"After The Warming" { 1989 }...James Burke


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@Sidewalker
The X chromosome contains approximately 900 protein-coding genes, while the Y chromosome has about 100 protein-coding genes, so yeah, numerically the XX has more genetic information than XY, and is more complex in terms of the range of genetic combinations available. 

Back in 90's they had just discovered that, 18 of the genes on the compacted Barr Body x chromsome remain active.  

..." While most genes from the inactivated X-chromosome are silenced, 15–25% are known to escape X-inactivation (termed escapees). The expression levels of these genes are attributed to sex-dependent phenotypic variability "..

So 15 - 25% of 950 - 1000 genes is like 200 genes or so that stay active on the compacted Barr Body x.

So again, the man has nothing comparable to a womb-uterus, and as the web page show, women do have some things called ' skeens ' that are similar to mans prostrate chemisty.

However, me do produce sperm, but the ovaries produce eggs so the balance is comparable to whatever degree between man and woman.

I also said there was synergetic aspect, however, I mispokes, as Ive written so about much of this stuff for many years, and, the synergy I was inadvertently putting forwards was that of humans greater degree --than other animals--   of access to Meta-space mind/intelligence/concepts. My bad.
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Prime numbers may be the only semi-random existence.

Chaos,disorder and random-ness, is only the inability of Meta-space mind, to find the order, because, to utlra-micro and that may result in ultra-large set of relationships, that are beyond any instumentation to discern and orderly pattern.

Uncertainty of mind, does not necessarily always have to lead to chaos and disorderly fiunction-ability.

The uncertainty principle involves not knowing two specific factors simultaneously i.e we can know one of the factors, then know the other factor, seperately.Ex speed or location within some or all quantum particles.

Absolute truth > Relative truth > False narrative

A line has three parts:  Two terminal end points and at least one point as the body between the end points ergo . . . i.e. set of three points.

An enclosed area can be no less that integral set of three lines with a co-sharing of the two end points of three sets of those two lines as a closed triangle set.

An enclosed volume is no less than integral set of 6 lines, with co-sharing set of four end points of each set of three lines aka a tetrahedron.

As presented below, the 6 lines make me think of the I ching, tho I'm not suggest much of any significance to the I Ching aspect.
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@Sidewalker
Ive been clear for years, that, the X x is numerically more complex than X y.  Simple.

Synergetically woman functionality is to manage children and spouse. 

Man has no body part that is comparble the complexity of womb and its functionality to carry and nourish an off-spring for 9 months.

At best man has a prostrate gland, whereas a wo"...man does not, or may not, as I seem to recall info they do have something that is similar to prostate gland.  A newer discovery, if true.

..."While women don’t have a prostate gland, they have what are called the Skene’s glands. This group of glands and ducts is at the front of the vagina and is similar in some ways to the prostate, including that it contains prostate-specific antigen (PSA) and PSA phosphatase (PSAP), two enzymes that doctors use to assess the condition of the prostate in men.


TheUdog....You need stats to back up your claims
Please share when you have comment by me that you believe is invalid.  You havent done that in this thread.

Over the years here and the other Dart.  I have supplied info ex bilateral more action/thoughts between two hemi-spheres of brain in women when asked series, relative to men. Here below may not have the MRI/CAT scans showing more bilateral action, I havent time now to scan whole of these documents or search for the bilateral info of such ive seen in past.

.." It has been hypothesized that language functions are represented more bilaterally in the female brain than in the male brain (McGlone, 1980; Dorion et al., 2000; Gur et al., 2000). Women might thus use both hemispheres for language functions while males predominantly use the left hemisphere. A more bilateral pattern of language representation is thought to result in better verbal skills, while visuospatial processing would be inferior in subjects with bilateral language representation (Levy, 1969). Thus, the female deficit in spatial performance is hypothesized to result from competition between verbal and spatial functions in the right "..
hemisphere.

..."It has been hypothesized that language functions are represented more bilaterally in the female brain than in the male brain (McGlone, 1980; Dorion et al., 2000; Gur et al., 2000). Women might thus use both hemispheres for language functions while males predominantly use the left hemisphere. A more bilateral pattern of language representation is thought to result in better verbal skills, while visuospatial processing would be inferior in subjects with bilateral language representation (Levy, 1969). Thus, the female deficit in spatial performance is hypothesized to result from competition between verbal and spatial functions in the right hemisphere."..
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5129843/


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@FLRW
FLRW... I think this would be a great plan.

Aka ...' advanced progress '.... moving on up..... to infinity and beyond......

ZedV... ' expediency '....
Cheapest { poor quality } then throw it away in dump culture of expediency. Good call Zed.

...""Upuntil 1500 BC, all money was cattle, lambs, goats or pigs – live moneythat was real life-support wealth, wealth you could actually eat. Steers were by far the biggest food animal and so they were the highestdenomination of money.  The Phoenicians carried their cattle withthem for trading but these big creatures proved to very cumbersome on longvoyages.  This was the time when Crete was the headquarters of thebig-boat people and their new supreme weapon – the lines-of-supply-controlship.  Crete was called the Minoan civilization, the bull civilization,worshippers of the male fertility god."...

...." For numismatists, “Celtic” means a vast category of ancient coinage ranging across much of Europe from the fourth to the first century BCE. Between 58 and 50 BCE, Julius Caesar’s Roman legions conquered the Celtic peoples of Gaul in a brutal war. The spoils of that war financed Caesar’s eventual rise to dictatorship. One result is that the French today speak a language derived from Latin rather than Celtic.
Celtic tribes consisted of a warrior elite, with a priestly class (Druids), an artisan class (the metal-smiths, who made weapons and feasting vessels that were highly valued), and a mass of slaves. The Greek writer Poseidonius of Apameia (c. 135 – 51 BCE) observed that:

Italian merchants look on the Gallic love of wine as their own godsend… they receive in return for it an incredibly large price: for one amphora of wine they receive in return a slave (Nash, 82).

....Like Romans, Gaulish peoples adopted coinage from the Greeks with whom they traded. Dozens of different tribes issued coins in gold, silver, bronze, and potin[1] (an alloy of copper, tin, and lead). Dating the coins and attributing them to specific tribes is often uncertain. There are hundreds of different types issued over a period of three centuries and a brief survey like this can only illustrate a few examples. Often based on Greek or Roman designs, these coins expressed a creative artistic sensibility and are avidly collected today."...



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I'm going to repeat this part, cause i'm hoping to get through the nutshell (  ) , in closer to the  root core  O of most refined truth aka absolute truth ( O ).

Electron > photon > quantised bits of information via AI and Artificial  Generalised Intelligence > " emergent behaviours "? ? { see link to article in last post }

~~~~~~~~~~~~~  line of demarcation ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Meta-space > mind > concepts > intelligence > ego biologic non-quantised bits of patterned information > access to generalizations of mind/intelligence ergo a pattern of inter-relationships of  ' novel ideas ' ? ?

In the context of quantised bits and non-quantised Meta-space pattern, consider this word...g e n e r a l i z a t i o n.......and then,

consider the same amount of quantised occupied space bits in a differrent Meta-space pattern.......s t n z n g i o i e a a l e.......14 letters each, ergo, the same amount of occupied space bits, however,

the Meta-space pattern makes all the differrence to whether we have transfer of a Meta-space concept.

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Lets think of more complex woman as 4 and less complex man as 3. Ok?

3 { structural prime integrity } + 4 { systemic non-prime integrity } = 7 { prime and agent of diversity is additive resultant }. 5 is not a prime number, yet many Fibonacci  in biologic nature patterns ex spiral of sunflowers etc. Its about adding the last number to the next number

0 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21 34 55..... 89... 144... 233... 377... 610... 987... 1597... 2584... 4181... 6765... 10946... 17711.... 28657... 46368... 75025... 121393.... 196418... 317811... 514229... 832040... 1346269..... 2178309... 3524578.... 5702887.. 9227465.. 14930352.. 24157817... 39088169.. 63245986.. 102334155... 165580141... 267914296... 433494437... 701408733... 1134903170

And  n the above, first 100 terms of Fibonacci, the most common symmetrical dual set is 33 { it appears 4 times } 233, 102334155, 433494437 and 701408733.

It occurs twice by itself in a term, then once with 55 and once with 44.  It is the third dual set to appear i.e 55 > 144 > 233 a that  is after the first three dual sets { two numbers definning a term } i.e. 13  > 21 > 34 then first symmetrical dual set 55.  This is the first time Ive ever explored this patterning

4 - 3 = 1

3 - 4 = -1

Negative one exists in concept, not as phenomena of Universe. So we can conceptually say, that woman as 4 minus five still exists as positive, whole, rational set phenomena of occupied space Universe, tho less complex, whereas,

with man as 3, minus woman as 4, man does not exist at all, as a positive, whole,  rational set phenomena of occupied space Universe.
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... ' Though I would suggest, a childishly stylized version of certain  things, generated using computers for the benefit of humans, by humans. '......

Bingo! Zedvictor!  Yes music always enhances any  narrative. So does motion/action.  The seemingly little stars coming from behind the square graphics, put our visual sense into motion.

' Speeding through the Universe, thinking is the best way to travel '..... Moody Blues

Lee Smolin { theoretical physicist } makes clear that, if there existed a spaceship { with humans on board }  in and otherwise truly non-occupied void of space, that, none would no of there existence, until the motion occurred. i'm paraphrasing Smolins words.

His point was about motion > time > relativity > context > existence etc, or something like that.

Fuller states, ..' everything is moderation/modification of angle ' { degree of /\  } ' and frequency ' { re-occuring set } \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ or as he states elsewhere, spin.

In Fullers Synergetics time is frequency.  Static version of motion/time, and a geodesic (  ) is a semi-conceptual dynamic of spin as motion/frequency.

So when I quote Moody Blues ...thinking is the best way to travel----  it it is the motion/spin/frequency/re-occurence of thoughts/concepts/ideas via our nervous system access to them.

..." While AI can generate novel outputs and solutions by combining existing knowledge in unique ways, it doesn't “think” in the same way humans do. “It's more accurate to say that AI can exhibit 'emergent behaviors,' or produce results that weren't explicitly programmed,” Kostello explains "...

Electron > photon > quantised bits of information AI and Artificial  Generalised Intelligence
~~~~~~~~~~~~~  line of demarcation ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Meta-space > mind > concepts > intelligence > ego biologic non-quantised bits of patterned information

In the context of quantised bits and non-quantised pattern, consider this word...metaphysical.......and then consider the same amount of quantised bits in a differrent pattern........hlamctaipeys.......12 letters each, ergo same amount of occupied space, yet the pattern makes all the differrence to whether we have transfer of a concept.

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Thanks for the insight
To the block my toes off Rman

Welcome Rman.
I appreciate your intellect also, when it is on the money.
Hits nail on the head.
Straight { true } as an ---arrow--->

Another point about pulling, as path of resistance ---think Gravity follows path of least resistance---  is that Japanese hand saws cut on the pull stroke, and Japaneses hand saws are lighter and thinner than western cut-on-push-stroke saws.

Man goes to sea  ---Neptune god---

Woman stays on land --mother Earth-- that, is negative grounding for lightening --pushing man { Thor God }--, so we say, lightening charge is attracted to the Mother Earth { think mass }   grounding.

And yes we know that there are very photos of charge from the Earth rising to meet the charge from the sky.   + and - attract.

However, Ive made clear over the years --via geometry--, that man and woman are most funcitonally optimized, when they operate at 90 degrees to each,  --see two great circle planes, sharing common center, yet at 90 degrees to each other--- and in this way, the two planes take in the more greater wholistic and comprehensive view of the environmental considerations.

See Graphic A of three sets of two great circle planes, at 90 degrees to each other, when you look from face on view cubical view.

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Sometimes you are funny as fuck btw
To Rational Man

Aw shucks.  Funny as -e-buck.
By the sea side,
casting stones on to the beach,
chasing away the bot-flies, from my dream castles in the sand.

Ebuc fades off, into the distant event horizon of life,
swarming with bots, in the jungle beyond the living.
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126 { 18 * 7  = the primordal quark soup of 18 kinds of quark and 18 kinds of anti-quark.? The Cosmic Egg?
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119 { 17 * 7 } >

112 { 16 * 7 } >

105  { 15 * 7 } >

98 { 14 * 7 } >

91 { 13 * 7 } >
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84 { 12 * 7 } > = meaning of death? and nothing?
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77 { 11 * 7 } >

70 { 10 * 7 } >

63  { 9 * 7  } >

56  ( 8 * 7 } >  49
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42 { 7 * 6 = meaning of life and everything?   >
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35 { 7 * 5 } >

28 { 7 * 4 } > 

21 { 7 * 3 } >

14 { 7 * 2 } >

7 { 4 + 3 additive }

..." Heptagon Properties
Some properties of heptagons are as follows:
  • In heptagon, the sum of the interior angles is equal to 900 degrees
  • The sum of exterior angles of a heptagon is 360 degrees
  • For regular heptagon, the measure of the interior angle is about 128.57 degrees
  • The measure of the central angle of a regular heptagon is approximately 51.43 degrees
  • The number of diagonals in a heptagon is 14
  • Regular heptagons are also known as convex heptagons
  • The number of triangles formed in a heptagon is 5
Area of a Heptagon
For a regular heptagon with side length “a”, then the formula to find the area of a heptagon is given as

The above equation is approximately equal to:
Area of a Heptagon, A = 3.634a2 square units
Perimeter of Heptagon
Since all the sides “a” of a regular heptagon are of equal measure, then the perimeter or circumference of a heptagon is written as,
The perimeter of a heptagon, P = 7a units"

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.." men are pushers, women are attracters "...Bucky Fuller ..he goes on to say that, and I paraphrase...men are always thinking there pushing stuff around when stuff can only be pulled around '....and that is not quite correct, so I clarify for him below.

All pushing outward phenomena of Universes is a resultant of pulling inward phenomena.

Muscle contraction  ---pulling inward---  resultants in pushing or puling doors open for self or others.

Muscle contraction results in babies being pushed out of the womb.

All humans are born female, then after couple of months the testosterone --SRY gene?-- kicks in the right stuff for the  protruding outward male penis --with its clitoris head---. Women have sometimes have extended clitoris, yet nothing like the protuding penis head.

Men think with their dicks, is an old saying.

Women cry { release }, men fry { contained } is old saying, and much more often we see men exploding outward toward others in higher degrees of aggressive > violent behavior.

Men dominate with muscular brawn, ---the testosterone push approach---  and women dominate with an inner strength of via comprehensive set of abilities endure men, child birth and family.

Man synonymous with EMRadidation pushing outward and Dark Energy  )( expanding outward.  Men went further outward to sea to explore the limits of their potential feeding grounds self and  family --if not also just to get away from spouse for a period of time?----

Women generally stayed closer to home, and find the local feeding grounds and family neccessities.

Woman is more likened to gravity (  )  --the attracter pulling in the man, woman, child etc---

Woman X x is more complex than man X y. Numerically more complex in chromosome parts and in bilateral action of the two hemi-spheres of the brain.

Mans is more likened as time, and we may say as the entropic  the arrow of time ---/\/\/\/\/-----> pushing outward/forward and the limits of speed

Woman is more likened to an incoming flow-of-time <--(   )(   )(   )--- and seeks to manage the entropic arrow of time, via the the more fluid-like, (  )(  ) <--- flow-of-time---(  )(  )(  )

Woman is the more Zen approach (  ) when needed, and less Zen pushing ---vvv-> approach when needed

Man is the less Zen approach ---vvv--->,  i.e. constant pushing forward/outward approach

The y chromosome is more likely to have evolved from the larger and more complex X chromosome, than the less complex y becoming an X.

X >>>>> y = yes evolutionarily speaking 

y >>>>> X = no evolutionarily speaking

There exists no all male species, there do exist all female species ex a species of Gecko's that clone themselves. There are other similar such species of female only.

This info does not surprise most women, yet most men will be surprised and they will argue against these truths. Why? Because they are men and think they know better than women. Generally speaking. 





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What about time?

Two kinds: ...tho others may reference other kinds of time also...

1} Meta-space abstract units of measure,

2} observed time i.e. that which is quantised fermonic matter and bosonic forces.

Is EMRadiation (charged photos) universally omni-present.

No. Some occupied space places there is only fermionic matter and no occupied space photons.

Did you mean Photons?

Yes, my grammar errors abound for sure. sorry
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..( * * )... bilateral consciousness

.../\.... is closed triangle symbolism of woman

/* *\ is closed triangle with bilateral ovaries internal

*Y* is open set triangles as symbolism for man with eternal testes

What follows is a verbal brain fart from a bilateral, MAGA programmed AI
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..m..0...m....
........2001.....
..............2HAL...
.....................Hallowed\\\///be**thy..name....
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EMRadiation { charged photos } --like Gravity--  has no limit.
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Your welcome.

Geometry is the science of pattern ergo visual images and a large part of art --over the years--- is about visual images seen with naked eye, or by human instruments in all kinds of EMRadiation frequencies.


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Though I'm firmly of the opinion that there either is or isn't life elsewhere.
I expect that you would agree.

Zed,

1} I have least doubt regarding life exists elsewhere, 

2} I have more doubt, that, intelligent life exists in Universe. Yet I believe it does.  Again that link in last post says there are 100's of amateur and professional explanatioons why SETI has not discovered EMRadiation radio/tv etc waves being broadcast, since the travel the speed-of-radiation, ergo, most think intelligent life like ourselves would have broadcast out signals like us --since first days of humans creating radio-waves---.

Just in our solar system:

1a} ... " The best evidence that there's an ocean at Europa was gathered by NASA's Galileo spacecraft, which orbited Jupiter from 1995 to 2003. While Europa has no magnetic field of its own, when the Galileo spacecraft made 12 close flybys of Europa, its magnetometer detected a magnetic field within Europa as Jupiter's powerful magnetic field swept past the moon. Scientists think the most likely cause of this magnetic signature is a global ocean of salty water. "...
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