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Oh Lord wont you buy me a Jesus ink pen. Oh Lord wont you praise me, for the others who sin.
Oh Lord why have you forgotten, all that is Zen? Oh Lord wont you praise me, for now and then.
Oh Lord why are you lying to all humen? Oh Lord wont your praise me, for dickin your hen.
Oh Lord, why are you hiding, in your man cave den? Oh Lord wont you praise me, for finding the end.
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@3RU7AL
I'm not sure this is strictly "true".
Ok then non-strictly it may be and there may exist other groups that that is there primary goal.
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ebcu....Ex do animals other than humans commit suicide i.e. is spiritual to live irrespective of what the brain/nervous system has the abiility to process?
Spirituality is more fundamental self ---i as ego?---- ergo may relate more to some animals less complex than humans.
Is committing suicide a lack of spirituality? Is it a lack of religion? Is it more one than the other?
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@3RU7AL
Exactly which part of this is "Marxism"?
And is immoral killing primary goal of "Marxism". The primary goal of KKK is killing of people of color.
We appear to have some people on this forum --and greater society--- who lack access to morally considerate compassion of their fellow humans. What should a moral set of humans do about these immoral, inconsiderate lack of compassion type of humans?
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@secularmerlin
...... if you believe in some god(s) that can be defined as both all powerful and also loves us all how do you resolve the problem of suffering?...
Universe/God does not love, hate, or masturbate.
Attempting rational, logical common sense discourse with the irrational, illogical, lack of common sense believers is a bit { a lot } like attempting to have rational, conversation with a drunk, at least with some issues.
Volcanoes blow and people suffer. tsunamis as result of earthquakes occur and people suffer, disease occurs and people suffer, humans suffer and die from terminality of old age and all parts of Universe/God having decay rates.
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@secularmerlin
Fight fire wit fire, fight immoral with immoral, etc..
The higher{?} place---most moral{?}--- also takes the most courage is ...'the only thing I will do for death is to die for it'.....
Fighting fire with fire is fine in wildfires. In war it fighting immoral with immoral often leads to collateral damage to non-combatants.
If a non-human animal attacks us we fight back. To not fight back against human attack makes no sense. The Killing Fields of Comabodia come to mind.
The British somehow bombed the a congested city in Germany in WW2, instead of hitting the weapons factories on the edge and many non-combatant citizens killed uneccessrily and not planned.
It is debate-able the Trumans decission to drop not only one but two atomic bombs on Japan, as there were options USA could have chosen that would have been more morally acceptable to the moral minded.
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@oromagi
Yeah the ants are always with us, just like the poor.
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...."Putting these two facts together, Sands was able to conclude that the dogs weren’t committing suicide at all, rather they were excited by the smell of a small furry creature and tragically leaped over the safety wall (which is above the sight-line of most dogs) not realizing they were standing on a bridge."....
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@oromagi
.....or we could just eat the grain we would otherwise feed the locusts with the advantages of hundredfold efficiencies in caloric output and greater nutritional variation than just eating only locusts.
I understand and that is partly why I became a vegetarian 40 years ago. There is more to the grasshopper story regarding carbon sequestering. I will have to reread the info sent to me to better understand what there points were regarding carbon.
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@Theweakeredge
Sorry Wedge, I was not clear.
What I presented was meant as historical ---from present to past-- semi-linage of what has led us to Biden as president, ---and not Trumpet--- not that Biden is better the the more recent democratic contenders.
So I agree with you that I would have preverred Hillary, Warren, Bernie over Trump, but the practical { moderate most likely to win } vote was Biden --years of experience--- and that is why he was chosen.
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@Theweakeredge
Biden { alterrative to four years of racist Trump and worse immorality and fundamental compassion etc } > Harris >
..............alternates {Hillary > Sanders > Warren } > Bill Clinton > Jimmy Carter { solar panels on white house } > LBJ { immoral war continued } > JFK { immoral war despite growing data corruption via ignoring truths }
Trumpet { worst of the worse on all counts fell short of war mongering, cause lucky of circumstances } > Pence
.........> Bush Junior { Iraq war } > Bush-1 { rasised taxes small war { as is case with most republican presidents despite promises not to } > Regan { removed solar panels on white house and raised tsxes dispite promisse not to }
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@RationalMadman
Complex God = woman { Xx } ergo complex religion that is more inclusive i.e. includes spirituality
Less complex God - ma { Xy } ergo less complex religion that at leastt consider spirituality if not more complex religion.
Complex = more synergetic
Simple = less synergetic
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@3RU7AL
PERFECTION = BALANCE = ZERO KELVIN
Agree, and that is why we do not find perfect balance or absolute zero kelvon.
All of Universe and its parts are eternally off-center { unbalanced } and that is one of the keys Universe as the only perpetual motion machine.
Universe abhors equlibrum { perfect balance } and a vacuum { perfect zero kelvin }.
Fermionic hadrons { protons neutrons etc } have a 2:1 ratio of charged quarks.
Physical reality has charge, spin, mass etc ergo tainted.
Even the cubo-octahedron found in some Galena crystals LINK is not a perfect cubo-octahedron aka vector equilibrium.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ_y9dFyX68
..."Grasshopper powder contains 72% protein, all essential amino acids, and a balanced ratio of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids...........by 2050 food production will have to grow by more than 70% to meet Earth’s human population, but the farmland needed to produce that food won’t exist. Much will have been drowned, desertified, degraded, and chemically euthanized. The old stand-by, beating forests into farmland, will have an uphill slog to find political traction in a time when trees are a critical part of the fight against climate change."......
..."Grasshopper powder contains 72% protein, all essential amino acids, and a balanced ratio of omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids...........by 2050 food production will have to grow by more than 70% to meet Earth’s human population, but the farmland needed to produce that food won’t exist. Much will have been drowned, desertified, degraded, and chemically euthanized. The old stand-by, beating forests into farmland, will have an uphill slog to find political traction in a time when trees are a critical part of the fight against climate change."......
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Complex humans invent religion ergo morals.
Is spirituality more fundamental ergo relevant also to other biologics?
Ex do animals other than humans commit suicide i.e. is spiritual to live irrespective of what the brain/nervous system has the abiility to process?
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@3RU7AL
@Theweakeredge
.....it has to do with the definition of perfect.
Perfect only exists as pure ergo Metaphysical-1{ spirit-1 } ego/mind/intellect/concept i.e perfect has no mass, no weight, no spin, no charge etc.
Perfect { pure } = untainted and all of Universe and its parts are tainted, including;
....tainted, Ultra-micro{ Metaphysical-3 }, spiri-3 { Metaphysical-3 } Gravity ( ),
....tainted, Ultra-micro { Metaphysical-4 }, spirit-4 Dark Energy )(,
not just the physical reality of fermions and bosons.
Perfect{ pure/divine{?} } is associated with symmetry and less so asymmetrical.
Morality is a concept ergo pure asscoiated with relative existence and not divine { absolute cosmic truth/principle }
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Complex { religion } > Simple { spirituality }
1} numerical complexity see LINK to exponential growth of inter-relationships ratio to their vertexial nodal events{ points },
2] synergetic two differrent entities with same numberican values, however, one has a synergetic resultant, the other does not.
....2a} ex. say we take two biologic entities, with same number of genes chromosones etc, and the way the coding works/processes in one entit, may lead to more access to more complex Metaphysical-1, ego/mind/intellect/concepts, whereas,
......2b} the others coding leads to less access to the more complex Metaphysical-1, ego/mind/intellect/concepts.
Complex religion involves a higher numerical set of concepts and people ergo a greater whole, whereas,
.......spirituality involves a lesser numerical set of concepts, and can be just one person involved.
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@zedvictor4
A. Sneeze yep.
So your above is referincing post#7
Not a Spirit-1{Metaphysical-1 } ego/mind/intellect/concept spirtuality.
Not Spirit-3 Gravity
Not spirit-4 Dark Energy.
At best spirit-2 fermions and boson aggregate as biologic response
B. 1. The clock might have been slow.
If not slow then that is not correct answer
2. Scientology...Ask Hubbard.
Without researching that relgion ---but have heard/read-- my guess is he did not start it in response to "unanswerble" questions. I read it was a bet he made with someone that he could or could not create a religion to meet the IRS standard for non-profit as religion
So I doubt your reply has validity
3. Scalp whorls.....Why do birds fly?
It safer place to be from ground predators. Cats like to sit on higher perch for better view of ground predators and safer to be on the higher position if they are attacked. So I answered your birds as "unasnwerable".
C. Yes....Because necessities are variously constructed.
You did not answer why spiral whorls.
D.1. Who knows?
What does "D.1" reference exactly? "what is neccessary". "multi-faceted". You lost me here.
2. Maybe for some...But definitively , no.
"2." You numbering system is off-center cause is not is convluted ergo I cant reference you comment above
3. I would suggest that the possibilities of Space are a constant
I agree and have stated such to you in other threads and in my Cosmic Trinary Outline for several years as eternally existent. So not really a question for me.
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@secularmerlin
Well as evolution is a process guided by the laws of physics I think we can assume there is a sort of maximum complexity limit after which complexity breaks down becoming simpler. From singularity to complex universe filled with galactic clusters to heat death. Singularity and heat death are not complex states if I understand the terms properly.
Ha, good one! Sec. I was only thinking biology, so again, good thoughts for sure.
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@secularmerlin
I was curios if you understood and then had any info of complex-to-simple evolution.
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@secularmerlin
At the very least increased chance of birth defects yes.
I can maybe find you a link to help you understand why inbreeding is a complex-to-simple evolutionary process?
Plenty of movies that stero-type what I'm refering to and is fairly obvious phenomena.
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@secularmerlin
Unknown at outset. In retrospect it appears evolution tends towards more and more complex organisms over time.
Inbreeding = complex-to-simple. Yes? You understand that much Sec.
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@secularmerlin
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@zedvictor4
@Sum1hugme
The process of evolution, which is observable in laboratory conditions up to and including speciation, as seperate from the theory of evolution is merely the sum total of small mutations over time.
..."Furthermore, many key aspects of evolution occur in relatively short periods that can be observed directly—such as the evolution in bacteria of resistance to antibiotics."...
The next question the above is;
1} is that simple-to-complex evolution,
2} complex-to-simple evolution,
3} lateral evolution that is neither more complex or less complex?
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Time = Absolute Time ergo the Arrow-of-Time >>>>>>> and we conceptually construct future or past relative time events
time = relative time as in relative to speed, distance and location.
It is cosmic trinary turtles all the way to the ultra-micro finite set. E the truncated dipyramid that may have more than one intermal set of events occurring as its internal spinal axis of oscillation between forward postiive and backward negative.
endoderm-meso-derm-ecto-derm for example.
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....."6 billion peoples will suffer from clean water scarcity by 2050.
This is the result of increasing demand for water, reduction of water resources, and increasing pollution of water, driven by dramatic population and economic growth. It is suggested that this number may be an underestimation, and scarcity of clean water by 2050 may be worse as the effects of the three drivers of water scarcity, as well as of unequal growth, accessibility and needs, are underrated.
....While the report promotes the spontaneous adoption of nature-based-solutions within an unconstrained population and economic expansion, there is an urgent need to regulate demography and economy, while enforcing clear rules to limit pollution, preserve aquifers and save water, equally applying everywhere. The aim of this paper is to highlight the inter-linkage in between population and economic growth and water demand, resources and pollution, that ultimately drive water scarcity, and the relevance of these aspects in local, rather than global, perspective, with a view to stimulating debate.."
..."By 2025, an estimated 1.8 billion people will live in areas plagued by water scarcity, with two-thirds of the world’s population living in water-stressed regions."...
..."More than two billion people worldwide rely on wells for their water.
25-33% of Chinese do not have access to safe drinking water.
There will be about 1 billion more mouths to feed worldwide by 2025 and global agriculture alone will require another 1 trillion cubic meters of water per year (equal to the annual flow of 20 Niles or 100 Colorado Rivers).
By 2035, the world’s energy consumption will increase by 35 percent, which in turn will increase water use by 15 percent according to the International Energy Agency."...
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Religous and-or spiritual as 2ndary symbolism as follows;
\*)(*/ = triangulated coherent { binding/attraction INward >< } love via a portal for exchange heart-and-soul
*)Y(* = radiating { OUTward <> } triangulated love that, is not inherently an exchange ---via bindingtriangular portal-- oriented participant with their environment
* * = bioloiogical animals with bilateral nervous system, some of which, the more complex ones obviously exhibit/express love to whatever degree
/**\ = female { Xx } internalized ovaries is most complex entity of Universe, barring ideas of two or more women ex planet Earth with women is of course more complex
*Y* = male { Xy } externalized testes is 2nd only to woman in complexity
...........................................Space(S*t) i (S*t)Space....................
.....Space, * observer, time relative, fundamental ultra-micro torus ( )( ), Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } i as ego/mind/intellect/concept......... .
...........................................Space(>*<) i (>*<)Space....................
......inversion-outversion >< of ultra-micro torus and peak of curvature............................................
............................................Space( /\/\/ ) i ( \/\/\ )Space...............
.............................../\/\/\/ as sine-wave inside tube as body of the tube, not the ultra-micro surface events..........
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@zedvictor4
Spirituality:A physiological response to an external stimulus, or to an internally generated data sequence (Thought).
That works also as sneeze, allegeries, or scracth and itch cause by ant bite etc
Religions:Controlling cultural systems, loosely developed on the basis of providing answers to the unanswerable......To which we may or may not respond spirituality. (see above)
1]Why did I choose to get out of bed at 9:31 and not 9:30?
2} What "unanswerble" was Scientology in response too?
3} Why are humans the only primates to have whorls on the scalp? Is the formation of scalp whorls mechanical or genetic?
Whether any of this is necessary, is a multi-faceted question.
Is there answer to why is it "multifaced question" and not a single question?
Though one might suggest that, evolutionary certainty, dictates that everything is necessary.
I.e. why does our eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe exist?
Is science a religion, and if so, was invented to answer the latter question above.
If occupied space exists, must there also exist truly non-occupied space in complement? There would certainly be a dual-nature symmetry if so.
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@secularmerlin
@Polytheist-Witch
@FLRW
In quote --bottom of page-- of my prior comments, think of triangular love as a 3 finger mind-meld by Spock.
As for figure-head;
...1} president, premire, czar, prince, king queen, father, mother,
....2} sum of existence, ALL that exists,
.....3} All that exists plus what is beyond what exists ---ergo and irrational, illogical lack of common sense belief practiced by some Biblical based religions/theology etc---
.Ebuc..........2c} the act of love i.e. to triangulate a set of relationships that fixate { focus } on specific target, biologic, or not, thereby creating an opening/portal between our heart-as-soul, and, the environment outside of our heart-as-soul ergo an inherent twoness involement via triangular set of inter-relationships.
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A religion is any set of regular { daily, weekly etc } intentional practices, that, aid the human it getting the most, joy, contentment, satisfaction or whatever it may be they desire, out of their life.
Religion can be assigned by one person to self, or, a group of people to the group.
Spiritual practice is always 2-fold;
1} Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } enligtenment ---to whatever degree and how ever many times a day of being tuned IN or OUT of enlightenment---,
2} to raise the spirits, i.e. to raise the energy levels of self and those around us, with an ultimate goal of;
........2a} approach a feeling of a timeless bliss,
..........2b} to heal,
............2c} the act of love i.e. to triangulate a set of relationships that fixate { focus } on specific target, biologic, or not, thereby creating an opening/portal between our heart-as-soul, and, the environment outside of our heart-as-soul ergo an inherent twoness involement via triangular set of inter-relationships.
\*)(*/ = triangulated coherent { binding/attraction INward >< } love via a portal for exchange
*)Y(* = radiating { OUTward <> } triangulated love that, is not inherently an exchange ---via bindingtriangular portal-- oriented participant with their environment
* * = bioloiogical animals with nervous system, some of which, the more complex ones obviously exhibit/express love to whatever degree
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...."Britain said on Tuesday it would create a new homeland security headquarters as part of plans to improve its response to the "major threat" from terrorism, saying a successful chemical, biological or nuclear was likely by the end of the decade.
....In its Integrated Review, which lays out the country's post-Brexit policy priorities, the government said Britain faced a significant threat to its citizens and interests, mainly from Islamist terrorism, but also from the far-right and to a lesser extent the far-left and anarchists.".......
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@secularmerlin
Excellent Secular M!
Basically this is what your saying....'one-for-one', one-for-all and all-for-one.
This is the only way humanity will have existence on Earth beyond 2232, as based on my 5-factor formula prognostication for humanities end-times-on-Earth.
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@PGA2.0
Oh, wow, thanks for the advice! That will solve everything.
1} My guess is, that is the last rational, logical common sense comment you will make in this post.
The Christian/biblical God is not synonymous with the Universe. The Universe owes its existence to Him; thus, He is before it. The Christian God is a personal being. The Universe is not a personal being.
2} Ditto my above. More irrational, illogical lack of common sense based writings of God, as all writings by humans.
I presented Gods writings that are primary truths. You ego keeps you clueless to the those primary truths top of heirarchy of what exists.
A lesson in the laws of logic.1. The logic of identity --> A = A. A thing is what it is. A thing is not something it is not. God is God. (The Universe is a creation by God, not God. God is eternal. The Universe (space, matter, time) has a beginning).
3} This is first error exposing ego is the basis for all of you irrational, illogical lack of common sense truths and that is you did not quote any of the primary set I gave you post #12. Ego is running your show . Sad :--(
How about you explain what you want me to glean. How did you choose your primary set of truths? What does a cosmic trinary have to do with the triune God?
4} I might if your ego was not constantly in the way as I made clear in #3 above and post #12. You need to go back and address what I state, and not keep repeating your irrational, illogical lack of common sense and truth.
Why would God be the subcategory or subset of any set?
Did I state that? Where. Again, your ego is running your show. Your ego does not care one iota of anything Ive presented to you. Back to my post #12 and until you get your head on straight. Sad :--(
He is the greatest....
Back to post #12 where I made clear the identity and the top of it " A "ll and you ignore, because your ego has no interest in primary cosmic truths.
But you are right; I don't understand what you're getting at. I don't see the relationship or relatedness of your mumbo jumbo. For instance:
The only mumbo-jumbo is what your ego keeps repeating as it ignores the primary set of existence " A 'll that exists. Sorry PGA, yo ureall are clueless individual, because of your ego
How does this tie in with the rest:
Yo need to go back to beginng of post #12 and get it all correct from the start before I can address the latter truths.
Do you understand this latter statement above? No? I dont think so because your ego creates a blind spot to primary cosmic truths of " A "ll that exists.
The only spiritual you interested in, is your ego based irrational, illogical lack of common sense. Sad :--(
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@PGA2.0
1. God/universe? Are you equating God and the universe as interchangeable/synonymous?
PGA, when you actually learn to begin your knowledge base with the most comprehensive { greatest } wholistic set, then you are with " G "od/" U "niverse and yes those two are synonyms as they are all inclusive.
This here LINK { Cosmic Trinary Outline } is where yuo need to begin with the primary set of truths with that set all others reside as based on rational, logical common sense truths.
The words in the Bible are not any more the words of God/Universe, than my words above, or any words anyone writes. They are all a subcatagory of the greater set of " A "ll that exists.. Do you understand? No? I dont think you do.
Place you ego to side to find truth. Can you do that? No? I dont think you can.
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...........................{ nondialate and non-contractive ergo a constant }............
Arrow-of-Time >>> Past >>> In >>> ( * ) i ( * ) >>> Out >>> Future >>>.... { Metaphysical-1 abstract absolute }
--------conceptual line-of-demarcation-----------
Flow-of-Time <<< Past <<<< Out <<< ( * )i ( * ) <<< In <<< Future <<<<...{ Occupied Space Transformations }
.........{ dialate ( ( ( ((<><>)) ) ) ) and/or contractive }.............................................
Photon is not a constant cause it goes at top-speed in a vacuum and less elsewhere.
....................................*.............................................
---->--------->---------->o<-----------<------------<--------
....................................*...........................................
I.e. the two vertical * is the observer, and the ----> is incoming photon { o } at 90 degrees from our more linear --if not also on a 45 degree diagonal vector--- observational motion/trajectory of viewpoint.
Many if not all paradoxes can be reconciled via consideration of a 90 degree trajectory of vector, to our more 180 degree ---if a 45 degree diagonal vector-- and linear set of viewpoint{s} Perhaps. I dunno
Think of this way. Our Meatphysical-1, mathematical coordinate systems, are based on XYZ, 90 degree cube, that has 12 sets of lines/edges/chords and we intimate them as vectors.
However, it may be that our true vectors of Universal coordination are based on the the 12 surface diagonals of the XYZ cube ergo our vectorial trajectories are always at 45 degrees to our mathematical coordinate systems, What does this dmean, dynamically speaking, to our observations of EMRadiation as constant to all observers, irrespective of their speed?
However, another consideration is that of spin ergo geodesic considerations of a Universe that has vectorial trajectories that are closer to 90 degrees in the geodesic spin ---as an orbital--- to our more sine-wave and 45 degree patterning /\/\/\/\/\/\/ set of trajectories.
................................Space( /\/o\/\/ ) i ( /\/\o/\/ )Space.......................................................................
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@PGA2.0
You start either with God or some form of naturalism.
God/Universe = "naturalism" as does human ego that can search for truth based on rational, logical common sense, or allow their ego to promote irrational, illogical nonsense and in disregards to those consequences.
Consequences are both and good and bad, however, the latter that takes us further from rational, logical common sense based truths is more often detrimental than benefiical in long term.
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Universal = global humanity --in this thread--- and anything less is not all-for-one and one-for-all policy/agreement/standard/spiritual.
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...."How accurate is MIT's 1973 World One computer program prediction that civilization will end in 2040, since the program's first predicted milestone was that significant changes on Earth would begin to take place in 2020?
...One Answer to above was: ..."Well, one can't really predict the accuracy of a model predicting an event that hasn't occurred yet. However, from the time of my youth, many scientists, with or without models, have predicted significant ramifications from humans unconstrained population growth. All of thes predictions center around the concept of an ecosystem's carrying capacity for a population.
......We have artificially boosted the earth's carrying capacity for humans for decades. For example, we inject ammonia directly into the ground to allow grain production at unnatural densities. We genetically modify crops to make them pest and herbicide resistant to maximize yields. However, we are getting to the end of the road for those efforts. Now there is talk of building agricultural skyscrapers to increase available growing space. Meanwhile, natural areas are being destroyed all over the world to allow for meeting the demand for meat. We are overfishing the seas and oceans.
No model necessary. We are consuming more than the earth has to offer and will pay the price eventually, 2040 or otherwise."
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@3RU7AL
I mean, do you think ZEN is a "religion"?
Yes. A religion is any set of regular { daily, weekly etc } intentional practices, that, aid the human it getting the most, joy, contentment, satisfaction or whatever it may be they desire, out of their life.
Religion can be assigned by one person to self or group of people to group.
Spiritual practice is always 2-fold;
1} Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } enligtenment ---to whatever degree---,
2} to raise the spirits, i.e. to raise the energy levels of self and those around us, with an ultimate goal of;
........2a} approach a feeling of a timeless bliss,
..........2b} to heal,
............2c} the act of love i.e. to triangulate a set of relationships that fixate { focus } on specific target, biologic, or not, thereby creating an opening/portal between our heart-as-soul, and, the enviroment outside of our heart-as-soul ergo an inherent twones involment via triangular set of inter-relationships.
\*)(*/ = triangulated coherrent { binding/attraction } love via a portal for exchange
*)Y(* = radiating triangulated love that is not inherently an exchange oriented participant with their environment
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@Theweakeredge
Paradox's may be 180 degree opposites, ergo, to reconcile perhaps we need to have an angle viewpoint that is more 90 degrees to both of them.
If take radius to moon from Earth we see moon orbits at angle little less than 90 degrees. its called precession.
So we need to view the viewpoints of the paradox at 89, 88 degrees or so and that forms an orbital trajectory ( ) around a common center point-of-axis ( l ) or as (----) or viewpoint center common to both ( - ).
To reconcile is to find harmony { taoist way }. Go with the flow, go with the wind i.e. do not fight the flow of nature.
Humans are the most complex entity of nature, putting aside any ideas of two or more humans as in an Earth or Universe.
How does the bilateral human find harmony in the osscillation between two diametrically opposing viewpoints?
Sea-peoples learned how to sail into the wind by tacking into the wind. See LINK
..."To reach its target, sailors that intend to travel windward to a point in line with the exact wind direction will need to zig-zag in order to reach its destination. This technique is tacking. Sailors can reach a point in any direction using the technique of tacking and traveling at angles closest to the wind direction......
.........Efficiently being able to sail against the wind takes more practice and skill than any other sailing endeavor. Doing this well will enable you to sail anywhere".'....
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@zedvictor4
Though if my understanding of someone is different to yours, that doesn't mean that you are right and I am wrong, or vice versa.
There exists many more incorrect answers than there are correct answers or pathways to correct answer.
Correct is INward { point-to-able >< } towards truth
Incorrect is OUTward { omin-directional <-->} away from truth.
Pathways to truth are orbits that gradually fall inward --on spiral trajectory-- toward most refined truth as absolute truth { cosmic principles }
Sometimes the trajectory can have sharper angle and we arrive at correct truth sooner, rather than later, and even then the trajectory may miss any or all associated absolute truths.
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@RationalMadman
So... If there is a beginning and an end and they are both God, God is not truly eternal, time is just looped and also thateans free wikl os a lie as is God's omnipotence as God is enslaved to the timeline that repeats.
2D circle or elipse = loop
quasi-3D, unlimited spiral helix = eternal looping as cyclic periods of time, with two terminal end points,as initiation of a cycle and end of a cycle, yet again, they are both terminal end points of finite cycle of time, that we winnow out from the eternal spiral helixing of the parts the sum-total define God/Grace/Universe.
Now this above does not mention the inversions >< from the spiral helix and its periodicity of cycles. The inversions are what lead to the sine-wave patterns /\/\/\/\/\/ associated with quantum physics ergo the Observed Experiential Time that is not ultra-micro ergo, quantised and quantifiable by humans.
3 kinds of magic;
1} synergy, --ex biologics----
2} synergetic resultants, ---mind accessing creatures, that, on occasion perform seemingly magical-like phenomena when chemistry kicks in to do things like;
........2a} dialate the cervex and amazing amount to birth a baby,
.........2b} amazing structural chemistries that humans discover that is already being produced in biologic nature,
..........2c} others not coming to my mind currently.
3} unobserved inter-relationsips between geodesic Space ( )( ) and the resultant sine-wave space
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@Discipulus_Didicit
Okay... so then what happens?
No one knows the future unfolding story. What we do know is that;
1} humans have the access to most complex, Metaphysical-1 { spirit-1 } mind/intellect/concepts,
2} complex mind discover patterns of design organization to benifit standard of living,
3] side effect of #3, is humans have proliferated, with enough consideration for ecological environment that sustains their existence,
4} computers have the ability to do massive binary number crunching ergo they can pop out models/plans/scenario options for humans to choose going forward,
5} human could get together with their models/plans and their synergy may produce a many more new options based on new technologies for global humanity to survive beyond 2232. Only time will tell the future story of humanity.
Fuller and Carl Sagan gave both positive and negative outlook in the latter days.
Admiral Rickover state in the movie about him, that he thought nuclear lead to the destruction of humanity.
Then there are those who see nuclear ---3RU--- as the only possible way forward for humanity,
6} Synergetics principle is that no system can create something more complex than itself, Ex a human cannot create anything more complex than a human ergo a computer { created by humans } can never create another more complex computer. A computer is just very fast number cruncher, nothing more, Universe cannot create anything more complex than itself,
7} From Fulles book Synergetics..." Rudyard Kipling labored under the only-you-or-me philosophy, but he was inspired by thoughts that it might some day be otherwise:
....'And no one will work for money and no one will work for fame But each for the joy of working, and each in his separate star,Shall draw the Thing as he sees It for the God of Things as They are!'- from When Earth's Last Picture Is Painted
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@3RU7AL
WE MUST DEMAND HOLACRACY + RCV.
I used to have an RCA and I'm I currently living in a and RV, but never owned and RCV nor a holacracy.
Again, if we find two or more parties who have access to those two items, they could get together and their synergy may produce a model/plan for global humanity to survive beyond 2232. Only time will tell the future story of humanity.
Fuller and Carl Sagan gave both positive and negative outlook in the latter days.
Admiral Rickover state in the movie about him, that he thought nuclear lead to the destruction of humanity.
Then there are those who see nuclear ---3RU--- as the only possible way forward for humanity.
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@oromagi
relativity requires an observer and observed- at least two positions in space.More than one position in space disproves singularity.
"Unity is plural and at a minimum two"...Bucky Fuller
The minimal 3D defined space is a tetra{4}hedron. We can conceptually sub-divided the tetrahedron eternally ergo multiplication-by-division LINK of a finite whole, and, in so doing, we still can never ever have less than the 26 characteristics that define a tetra{4}hedron.
12 surface angles,
6 edges,
4 openings
4 vertexes
ergo 3D volume of ever decreasing size and physicall speaking any such subdivision ultra-micro occupied space, is limited by the amount of energy one can accumulate --from a finite Universe-- and directly go the next level of sub-division { quantization }.
Any talk of infinite sub-division ---Bucky Fuller himself speculated--- inherently incurs an eternal process of doing so. I dont think Universe does that.
The area of the spherical cubo{6}-oct{8}ahedrons four equatorial bisections, is equal to the surface area of that spherical cubo{6}-octa{8}hedron. Archimedes was first to discover this fact and in some ways reflects what we know about black holes, i.e. what is inside a black hole is expressed on its event horizon surface.
There is an eternally existent finite set of Metaphysical1, cosmic principles, that, complement the eternally existent set of possible occupied space manifestations.
There can never ever exist more than the finite set of five, regular/symmetrical, and convex polyhedra. Better chance that toyotas that breed purple magic Unicorns, tho my guess is that is also and impossible occupied Space occurrence.
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@Theweakeredge
The likelihood of an individual to reach a station that high in the highly oppressive environment that America is.
Here is crux of this issue, that all of you miss.
1} 'individual' needs to translate into nation,
2} and nation needs to translate into global humanity problem { issue } and how many years does humanity have to figure this out?
None of us can see the future, ergo, none of us know what technoligical innovations, along with long term global planning initiatives, initiated by;
..1} single individual, ---Einstein that led nuclear everything---
...2} a non-profit or profit group, --ex United Nations---
...3} for profit corporation ---Apple?---
....4} nation that sees one, few possible Universal Income models for humanity and then is able to convince all other nations that one of these plans has highest percentage potential to succeed,
....5} teh above #4 nation or group of nations attempt to force the changes onto humanity at all costs, because, the alternative may be modeled to lead to end of humanity if some direction forward for all of humanity is not taken.
Humanity needs global planning options going forward. How do those global planning options appear to us here and elsewhere?
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@zedvictor4
Goddess Grace's gorgeous love triangle. Memories. Talk about having one's pi and eating it.
Ha Ha, Zed, truly, that a poetically proper reply. thank you my internet friend{?}.
LINK to axes of germ layers, neural formation { the streak } and inversion/invagination.
.....2009 Harvard LINK...."There are a few different theories on how cellular memories might work but there is no strong scientific evidence on the process of cellular memories. A lot of research is being done today not only with interaction of the brain and the bodies organs but also with quantum physics and how atoms interact. It is still a mystery today but its something interesting to keep in the back of your head… or heart."....
2018 Evoution LINK..."Stem Cell Memory
......The old picture of stem cells was that they remain pure and static, until signals trigger cell division and differentiation. Ongoing research reveals a new, more dynamic picture of stem cells: cells that can remember things and respond to their surroundings. According to Monique Brouilette in Quanta Magazine:
....."Stem cells, famous for replenishing the body’s stockpile of other cell types throughout life, may have an additional, unforeseen ability to cache memories of past wounds and inflammation. New studies in the skin, gut and airways suggest that stem cells, often in partnership with the immune system, can use these memories to improve the responses of tissues to later injuries and pathogenic assaults.
......“What we are starting to realize is that these cells aren’t just there to make tissue. They actually have other behavioral roles,” said Shruti Naik, an immunologist at New York University who has studied this memory effect in skin and other tissues. Stem cells, she said, “have an exquisite ability to sense their environment and respond.” ............
........Xx { /**\ } internlaized ovaries as bilateral female
........Xy { *Y* } externalized testes as bilateral male
........triangulated hydrogen atom ---most abundant in Universe--- as follows;
.........a trinary set of electron, proton and electro-static field { photon/radiation } of inter-action between them, tho some may say this EM field is virtual field particls popping in and out so quickly they cannot be observed directly. LINK
However, there is a fourth factor ---or 2nd field--- of ultra-micro ergo Metaphysical-3 Gravity ( ), and,
I believe there is 3rd field of consideration ---and I appears to be only person on earth who makes this speculation--- that of ultra-micro Metaphysical-4, Dark Energy )( field is present also for electron and proton if not also the photonic radiation interaction, virtual or not.
1} My proton { quarks } is composed of 6 great circles/tori of the 3 and 4-fold patterning of the tetra{4}hedron associated with cube. LINK
2} My electron is composed of the 4-fold symmetry as 3 great circles/tori --with subtending set of three more--- of octahedral patterning. LINK....."In the tradition of Leibniz, Gauss called these characteristics, “curvature.”
......The difficulty today’s victims of information education have in grasping Gauss’ point, is that they’ve become accustomed to thinking of “straight” and “flat” in a certain pre-defined way, which, in the minds of the victim, carry the authority of “Roman law.” As long as this “rule of law” holds its sway over the victim’s mind, the afflicted person will cringe at the thought that the physical universe might disobey this defined law of straightness. But, whatever the authority with which this rule of law is pronounced, the universe decides what is straight as a matter of principle.
....This produces a psychological crisis that intensifies as long as the victim cowers under the arbitrary dictate of definitional straightness.
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Interesting
Awe shucks, you really think so?
Conceptual that is, Metaphysical-1, 'a unified --or wholistc-- whole' states Todd, so he names IT god.
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Grace is the God{ -ess } of Triangulated Love
........ebuc.......
One IT, two IT, three IT four,... five IT, six IT, seven IT more.
Add all the ITs, plus some synergy, now IT IS, dynamic energy.
Energy to some, is physical reality, what lays beyond, may exist as Gravity ( ).
Dark Energy )( accelerating out, these latter two are opposites, of this I have no doubt.
Energy we know, as a mudpie hits our eye, and that which lies beyond, as semi-Pi-in-the-sky { 3.14......... }
Conceptual that is, Metaphysical-1, 'a unified whole' states Todd, so he names IT god.
So this spiri-1 god, as a trancendental equilibrum, only sprouts its face, from our bilateral cerebrum. --aka a concept---
Nature abhors a truly empty space, so Gravity ( ) and Dark Energy)( , become our saving Grace.
Grace ---as God-- invaginates herself, her cloning is eternal, popping in (><) and out <)(>, progeny as mass, the particle cosmic kernels.
.................................Space(> * <) i (> * <)Space......................................
Spin-torque-orbit, inside-out and expand-contract, this only leaves precession, two masses intertwining, exposed by radiant light.
She is our saving Grace, forgiving withiin her limits, all that which complements, the finite occupied Space.
Saving Metaphysical-1 mind, saving all the principles, inviolate for eternity, she breathes in and out, all our breath of Time.
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@janesix
It's all about the sevens. That is, six and one.
thank you.
Seven sets of axi; 4-fold 3,
....... 3, 4, 6 and 12 axi ---conceptually spun great-circles/tori--- are the 25, 4-fold primary axi.
......6, 10 and 15 left-skew 5-old symmetry ergo 31 of 62
......6, 10 and 15 right-skew 5-fold symmetry ergo 31 of 62
.................................................................................25 of 4-fold
..............................................................................Total = 87, with 14 of those being redundantly congruent to another
Total is seven setsof axi and,
87 primary subet of Euclidean { edges, vertexi and openings/surfaces/faces 87 minus the reduntant 14 ergo 73 primary Great Circles/Tori
Grand total is 73 primary subsets of more primary Seven.
Truncating 3-fold tetra{4}hedron gives 14 faces/openings/surfaces. So probably 4-fold also ergo 3 and 4-fold but no 5-fold, yet. At least not with some set of axi based on tetra{4]hedrons 6 Great Circles/Tori. These six great are the subdivision squares of cube via 12, since rendundant with its opposite diagonal, so then again were, back to primary 6 of tera{4}hedron that we find in 4-fold set , 3, 4, 6 and 12.
7 >>>> mutli-plication-by-{sub}-division set of 4-fold ,25 axi and,
31 left-skew set of symmetry
31 right-skew set of ymmetry
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Total 87 minus 14 = 73.....h,mm at first appearence I would say 73 is prime number. I dunno.....how many years have had that number in back, or side of my mind? And yes, more likely than not it complements nervous system in many if not all ways. But of course.
So, 3-fold '6'
......4-fold, 3, 4, '6' and 12
......5-fold 6, 10 and 15
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