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@keithprosser
Hunch = intuition
Too many hunches will sometime seep out of brain on spinal chord and become a 'hunch back' in some people. 8--)
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@Wylted
Chaos = no rules
Order = some rules
Absolute truths = ultimate rules
Relative truths = rules are made to be broken and/or change to adapt to changing circumstances
Rulers --- ex a yardstick--- = common agreement of methods used
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From Time ToTime
.....M-Tard.....
Practice,"over time",
Makes better,"in time",
Whatever,"takes time".
In spite of,"limited time",
We find,"the time",
And possiblywe resonate, "with time".
We may also"extend or shorten time",
Relative to the"sum-total of time",
Being thatthere are those who take their "sweet time",
And others whoare constantly running "out of time".
So it happensthere is "no time",
In a Universethat is "full of time",
And those whokeep "track of time",
Warning us ofthe coming "end of time."
I have noillusions "about time",
Nor about thetheories "surrounding time",
I do know thatthere is "a time",
To forget"about time."
Alas, this isthe end of "my time",
That allpeople, on occasion, will hopefully, "have a good time."
Practice,"over time",
Makes better,"in time",
Whatever,"takes time".
In spite of,"limited time",
We find,"the time",
And possiblywe resonate, "with time".
We may also"extend or shorten time",
Relative to the"sum-total of time",
Being thatthere are those who take their "sweet time",
And others whoare constantly running "out of time".
So it happensthere is "no time",
In a Universethat is "full of time",
And those whokeep "track of time",
Warning us ofthe coming "end of time."
I have noillusions "about time",
Nor about thetheories "surrounding time",
I do know thatthere is "a time",
To forget"about time."
Alas, this isthe end of "my time",
Talking of endless ideas "involvingtime",
And allowingme a one final concept "concerning time."That allpeople, on occasion, will hopefully, "have a good time."
4:20 Slang :--)(--: Slang 4/20
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@Greyparrot
Yeah, the US exploded those tankers. Nice.
No, not "nice" and more evidence your a confused person not mention naive to what any nation is capable of doing to create false scenarios or to show what the can do if they so chose to truly cause chaos. No actual oil was spilled from the tankers.
.."The other countries, or alliance, with a motive for bombing the ships in the Gulf are the US and Israel, according to Iranian officials. Given that the US National Security Advisor, John Bolton, has personally called for regime change -- and given that the US and UK governments lied their way to war in Iraq some 16 years ago -- they say it's not inconceivable that the Gulf attacks are a "false flag" black operation intended to generate a casus bellum."..
..."The US, Saudi Arabia, and the UK are all adamant that it was Iranian forces who somehow planted magnetic mines to the hulls of moving ships and blew them up. And it was done so skillfully that not a drop of oil was spilled."...
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@n8nrgmi
but if we think them getting nukes is inevitable,
Yes it is inevitable. The Iran deal was only a stop-gap maneuver to slow their operations to get access to the nuclear weapons by aproximately 10 - 20 years.
we should do something about it now,
Yes, we should be working with them to ensure that whatever operations their doing remain safe and secure in all ways. This is what we did with Soviet Union/Russia in 90's.
while we have the chance.
Humanity has a chance as long as an accident doesnt happen and leads to crazy actions by disturbed people in authority.
..."India, Israel, and Pakistan never signed the NPT and possess nuclear arsenals.".... and we did not bomb them into submission.
Iran, N. Korea, Pakistan, India, France, USA, UK, Russia, China etc getting nuclear weapons is not neccessarily the end of humanity.
How smartly humanity responds to growing number of nuclear weapons in with more countries is the issue. War is obsolete in a world full of nuclear weapons.
..."At the dawn of the nuclear age, the United States hoped to maintain a monopoly on its new weapon, but the secrets and the technology for making nuclear weapons soon spread.
...The United States conducted its first nuclear test explosion in July 1945 and dropped two atomic bombs on the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in August 1945. Just four years later, the Soviet Union conducted its first nuclear test explosion.
...The United Kingdom (1952), France (1960), and China (1964) followed.
We live together as one humanity or we die together as one humanity in a world of nuclear weapons and increasing Erratic Climate Change via Global Warming and overpopulation.
In 40's humanity thought world was going crazy. In 60's humanity thought world is going crazy. In 90's humnaity thought some crazy was being reduced and we were practicing getting smart.
In 2020 will humnaityl think the world is going crazy again. How much crazy can world sustain before someone{s} in authority make a irresponsible mistake that ignites the nuclear genie again?
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@Greyparrot
Actually at this point, it's probably best to let Iran get the bomb
That has been of one of many points since 1945 for every country that has the desire for greatest placebo effect of having soveriegnity.
and Nuke israel
Or vice versa. The paranoid mind can only see one path forward and that is fallaibity and makes them so predictable.
The less paranoid mind is more comprehensively considerate of much larger set of factors and interrelationships involved.
if that's what it takes for the civilized world to see what the radical right wing mullahs are doing in Iran.
Once USA pulled out of the deal they put themselves outside the Iran fence ergo less ability to see what Iran is doing.
Again this is just more evidence of your paranoia that keeps you on irrational path forward. Sad :--(
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@dustryder
Everyone has seen God.
We cannot visullay see " G "od/" U "niverse. We can only concieve concept, that, includes macro-infinite, non-occupied space.
Not everyone has the ability to comprehend Him
Use of word "him" is so misleading and evidence little to know valid concepts being expressed.
which is the divide between true believers and dirty atheists and other false religions
Belief does not make a concept an occupied or non-occupied space phenomena/manifestation.
Belief only brings security to the ego { * i * }, irrespective of if the belief is true or false i.e. belief is a placebo effect for the biological/soul.
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@Snoopy
Solid State Drive i.e. no more optical disk reading ergo less mechanical stuff breakage.Huh?
Fuel injection more effective and less moving parts than carburator.
Other examples of doing-more-with-less { ephemeralization LINK } but I cant recall them.
Ex going further and faster with less fuel and less weight of an automobile while all the while getting all of the info in the world on your hand-held iphone.
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Weather Channel
MSNBC
Bill Mahr
John Oliver
Stephen Colbert
Seth Myers
Saturday Night Live
Comedy Central
60 minutes
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Blade Runner { original }
The Ghost Writer
Riddick { 2013 }
Star Trek: The Motion Picture
The Firm { T Cruise }
A Few Good Men { T Cruise, D Moore }
American Made { T Cruise }
The Post { Merly Streep }
The Net { Sandra Bullock }
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Critical Path { Bucky Fuller } Synergetics { Bucky Fuller }
The Intelligent Universe { Fred Hoyle }
Tony Hillerman Joe Leaphorn, Jim Chee mystery novels
Martin Cruz Smith Arkady Renko mystery novels
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@Snoopy
How is the widespread ownership of small arms detrimental to the long term survival of humanity?
Because more weapons, in general, is a security placebo effect, when n actuallity { reality } will lead to more fear and paranoia and then a humanity that is filled with fear and paranoia will not have a long term existence. Or so I believe.
Ask Sadolite if they could imagine a world filled with people of good intentions and they could not answer the question, nor could they imagine a world filled with people who have bad intentions.
This because in both cases they are filled with paranoia and fear. Or so I believe.
Trust in others who have littel moral integrity { ergo bad intention people } can still leave us with a the placebo effect of security.
Trust in others who have greater moral integrity { good intention people } will leave us with feeling of security.
Then there is the condition of people go greater moral integrity having their good intentions turn bad, and that can be from a few differrent reasons.
Then there is those people with lesser moral integrity having their bad intentions turn to good, and that can be from a few diffrerrent reasons.
To alleviate some of these issues, humanity must communicate as as unified whole, so that a trust can develope from trust that we know what are the intentions of other humans. We have to begin somewhere. Humanity is unifying via corporate greed, not out of good intentions for the longest term survival of humanity. Do you understand.
The United Nations is operating on the end of the tail of mega-corporations whose #1` goal is money and not good intentions of people with great moral integrity. Security comes from trust.
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@Snoopy
Sorry Snoopy, I go you confused with Super-DSuperdudz--More security comes from the guns
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@Snoopy
Believing that ore guns equal more security is placebo effect.
More weapons is not the path forward to long term survival of humans on Earth or anywhere else.
This is a minimal brainer for those who prefer rational, logical common sense over fear and paranoia.
..."Where there are more guns there is more homicide (literature review)
Our review of the academic literature found that a broad array of evidence indicates that gun availability is a risk factor for homicide, both in the United States and across high-income countries. Case-control studies, ecological time-series and cross-sectional studies indicate that in homes, cities, states and regions in the U.S., where there are more guns, both men and women are at a higher risk for homicide, particularly firearm homicide."....
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The Humans Are Dead
The distant future, the year 2000
The distant future, the year 2000
The distant future, the distant future
It is the distant future, the year 2000
We are robots
The world is quite different ever since
The robotic uprising of the late nineties
There is no more unhappiness, affirmative
We no longer say yes, instead we say affirmative
Yes, affir-affirmative
Unless we know the other robot really well
There is no more unethical treatment of the elephants
Well, there's no more elephants, so ah, but still it?s good
There's only one kind of dance, the robot
And the robo-boogey
Oh and the ro, two kind of dances
But there are no more humans
Finally robotic beings rule the world
The humans are dead
The humans are dead
We used poisonous gases
And we poisoned their asses
The humans are dead
(The humans are dead)
The humans are dead
(They look like they're dead)
It had to be done
(I just confirmed that they're dead)
So that we could have fun
(Affirmative, I poked one it was dead)
Their system of oppression, what did it lead to?
Global robo depression, robots ruled by people
They had so much aggression
That we just had to kill them
Had to shut their systems down
Robo captain, do you not realize
That by destroying the human race
Because of their destructive tendencies
We too have become like, well it?s ironic
Because we
(Silence, destroy him)
After time we grew strong and developed cognitive powers
They made us work for too long, for unreasonable hours
Our program being determined that the most efficient answer
Was to shut their motherboard fucking systems down
Can't we just talk to the humans?
And a little understanding could make things better
Can't we talk to the humans and work together, now?
No, because they are dead
I said the humans are dead
(I'm glad they're dead)
The humans are dead
(I noticed they're dead)
We used poisonous gases
(With traces of lead)
And we poisoned their asses
(Actually their lungs)
C'mon sucker lick my battery
Boogey, boogey
(The humans are)
Boogey, roboboogey
(The humans are)
Boogey, boogey
(Roboboogey)
Boogey, roboboogey
Boogey, boogey
(The humans are)
Boogey, roboboogey
(The humans are)
Boogey, boogey
(Roboboogey)
Boogey, roboboogey
The humans are dead
Once again without emotion the humans
Are dead, dead, dead, dead
Dead, dead, dead, doo
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"laegely political" not a system based largely on moral integrity.
Survival is dependent on Moral Integrity. Moral = principles and patterns of behaviour that favor self, humanity and the ecological environment that sustains all biological life.
.."The fear stems from the fact that as commercial credit systems like Sesame have started taking off in China, around half a dozen local authorities have launched pilot credit systems specifically designed to socially engineer behavior. These, too, ascribe a number to citizens. Good deeds gain points; bad deeds lose them, with perks and hardships attached. If you fall afoul of a pilot system, you cannot get a loan or mortgage, even if your offense is nonfinancial, like quarreling with neighbors. Conversely, nonfinancial “good deeds”—like giving blood—can cause your loan’s interest rate to drop.
This overlapping mishmash of commercial and state-run systems has stoked fears that China’s autocratic Communist Party is planning by 2020 to implement a single citizen score using opaque algorithms that’s largely political."....
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@ethang5
@Stronn
..."The fear stems from the fact that as commercial credit systems like Sesame have started taking off in China, around half a dozen local authorities have launched pilot credit systems specifically designed to socially engineer behavior. These, too, ascribe a number to citizens. Good deeds gain points; bad deeds lose them, with perks and hardships attached. If you fall afoul of a pilot system, you cannot get a loan or mortgage, even if your offense is nonfinancial, like quarreling with neighbors. Conversely, nonfinancial “good deeds”—like giving blood—can cause your loan’s interest rate to drop.
This overlapping mishmash of commercial and state-run systems has stoked fears that China’s autocratic Communist Party is planning by 2020 to implement a single citizen score using opaque algorithms that’s largely political."....
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@Club
Dollars is not real wealth { energy/physical }. Credits are not real wealth { physical/energy }.If everyone would be given 1 million dollars, than prices would dramatically raise.
They are a metaphysical-1 accounting system associated with some real wealth.
Any economic accounting system can only work as far as human integrity is a priority and it is a unified Earth system.
..."For instance, there’s still no telescreen-like single unified government platform monitoring social credit. Instead, you have around 40 pilot projects operated by local governments such as Suzhou, alongside more than half a dozen commercial outfits operated by the likes of Alibaba and Tencent Holdings Ltd., which much more closely resemble traditional credit-rating businesses."....
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@Speedrace
My email notifications have never worked. Ive tried the 'envelope' icon { [ V ] in both settings and still no email notifications ever.I mean the email notifications
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@3RU7AL
@n8nrgmi
@Snoopy
The U.S. and others made a deal with Iran to delay their development of nuclear capabilities.
Correct. Delay their development of nuclear bombs not stop.
Israel, France, Pakistan, Russia, USA, etc all have nuclear weapons and more nuclear weapons on Earth the greater the chance one or more will eventually go off intentionally or accidentally.
More weapons do not equal more security. It is obviousto me that many around here never lived throught M.A.D years of 60's, 70's and 80's.
The answer to not having more weapons is not bombing other countries into sumbmission. The answer is in a unification of all nations as one
unified-Earth-nation. The reduction of nuclear weapons in late 80's and early 90's was done via rational, logical common sense disscussions, not bombing other countries.
.."The Mine Ban Treaty is one of the world's most widely accepted treaties: over 80% of the world's countries are States Parties to the treaty. There are currently 164 States Parties. Only 32 states remain outside the treaty, but most of them do not actually use or produce antipersonnel mines.".....
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@Club
There exists no direct evidence of biological life ever being created anywhere in Universe.I mean it's still strange, considering the thing that creates also destroys
Entropy has it limits as defined by the 1st law of thermodynamics i.e. occupied space as our reality of Observed Time, cannot be destroyed nor created and at best or worst, it can only be dis-integrated to it least energetic configuration, ---ex heat death of Universe scenarios--- and that is the one single photon of lowest frequency { longest wave } ergo almost a flat line approximating a finite 2D area.
If we consider a 3D tetrahedron ---4 vertexial points { . . . . } along with its 6 chords { /\/\/\ | LINK as the minimal { photonic } volumetric space, and we then take one of its vertexes and move that vertex towards its opposite triangular opening we eventually get to the place where the 3D tetrahedron becomes subdivided 2D triangle { \Y/ } LINK
However, we have to also consider spherical { O } geodesics of occupied space as Gravity..
I believe, that at the approximated heat death { flat lined area } of our finite configuration of occupied space Universe we have a tetrahedron as photon with a gravitational spherical geodesic on each side of that seemingly subidivided 2D triangle.
O|O = heat death Universe as 2D tetrahedron { view on edge } with gravitational geodesic on each side.
This above is the simple scenario explanation.
The more complex scenario involves ideas of geodesic black holes having all the coding for all occupied space as Observed Time existence coded inside ergo on the event horizion surface of black holes and when they evaporate those codings via EMradiation are dispersed into a outward into a galaxy.
To further understand the relationship between 3D tetrahedron, and evaporating of 3D black hole see this LINK and this graphic is identified as 2nd way that a tetrahedron goes to zero-volume but maintains the existence of its four triangular planes. Again this is simple version that is not expressed in a geodesic configuration.
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@Ramshutu
The moon moves at an approximately 90 degree ---aka prescession--- direction to Earth and is either;The moon is also has speed, which means it moves parallel to the earth as it falls, it’s speed is just fast enough that the rate at which it’s accelerated towards the earth is the same as the rate the earth curves away from it. It is called “an orbit”:
slightly falling inward,
or slight falling outward over longest time considerations.
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@WyseGui
So being skeptical of atheism sense futile.
Ask 100 people for their definition of God and we will get at least 50 differrent answers.
0} " U "niverse / " G " od = The Cosmic Outline/List/Hierarchy is most generalized, wholistic set;
1} spirit-1 { spirit-of-intent } metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ex concepts of God, Universe, Space, Time, Concepts, Toyotas,
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2} eternally existent, macro-infinite non-occupied space, that embraces/surrounds the following,
3} spirit-2, eternally existent, finite, occupied space Universe/God aka Uni-V-erse.
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Occupied space is the first subset of the above Cosmic Trinity involving a 2D or 3D Space and not a )D concept-of-space.
...2a} physical/energy aka reality or Observed Time is fermions, bosons and any aggregate thereof ex atoms, molecules, planets etc,
...since there may be a third item in addition to fermions, bosons ergo 2a may be its own trinity subset,
....3a} Spirit-3,Gravity ( ), ultra-micro ergo metaphysical-3, positive shaped ( ) geodesic Space,
......ergo gravitonic quantity.....
....4a} Spirit-4, Dark Energy )(, ultra-micro ergo metaphyscial-4, negative shaped )( geodesic Space.
...ergo darkionic quantity......
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SPACE(>*<)' i ' (>*<)SPACE = short texticonic expression of all of the above, as the minimal, primary and fundamental dfinning set of Universe/God that includes access to ' i ' aka intellect { metaphysical-1 } meta ergo beyond 2D and 3D Space is 0D space concept of 2D and 3D Space.
* * = consciousness { awarness } via occupied space in bilateral configurations we associate with some animals { nervous system }.
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@Snoopy
You need to first drink the kool-aide, then you will better understand the "More Guns" equals more security scenario.I'm not sure what you mean here. Locks can provide a degree of security by design. At times, carrying a gun is the best way to keep it secure, on your person. I wouldn't say security comes from guns.
Person 1: I have four bazookas, 1 case of handgrenades, 10 tommy guns, and 5 sniper rifles ergo I feel more secure.
Person 2: I stop by and visit when your not a home or maybe I will see you later with telescope from the 4th floor.
Person 1: You want be able to see me later as I never ever leave the security of my home.
Person 2: Oh you mean at 157 Spruce Ave?
Person 1: No you numbskull, I live at 415 Security Road.
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@disgusted
I commented on someone being dumb enough to link to faux news, you haven't convinced me otherwise.
..."A farcical television network that operates under the guise of a legitimate "news" channel. Its sole purpose is to pander to Republicans and to reinforce and propagate right-wing conspiracies and propaganda 24/7. One can get a good estimate of the number of Republicans in the country by looking at Faux News viewership statistics.
Person 1: "Hey, did you hear the news? Apparently they found proof that Barack Obama is an Islamic terrorist born in Kenya, and also the anti-Christ. And I found out that Hillary Clinton is a serial killer who's in cahoots with Obama to bring about the biblical end of days!"
Person 2: "Have you been watching Faux News again? These "news" reports sound an awful lot like conservative propaganda."
Person 1: "How'd you guess?! This wasn't from their opinion section, so it was supposedly objective!".....
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@Vader
More security comes from the guns
Yes, the placebo affect is effective in 10% of people in some lab experiments.
..."More Guns Do Not Stop More Crimes, Evidence Shows
...More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?
...More firearms do not keep people safe, hard numbers show. Why do so many Americans believe the opposite?
...Most of this research—and there have been several dozen peer-reviewed studies—punctures the idea that guns stop violence. In a 2015 study using data from the FBI and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, for example, researchers at Boston Children's Hospital and Harvard University reported that firearm assaults were 6.8 times more common in the states with the most guns versus those with the least.
...Also in 2015 a combined analysis of 15 different studies found that people who had access to firearms at home were nearly twice as likely to be murdered as people who did not.
.....This evidence has been slow to accumulate because of restrictions placed by Congress on one of the country's biggest injury research funders, the CDC. Since the mid-1990s the agency has been effectively blocked from supporting gun violence research. And the NRA and many gun owners have emphasized a small handful of studies that point the other way."...
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@Mopac
Insight comes from God. ....That is what "Orthodox" means. Right believing.....The Ultimate Reality is God, without a doubt.
Placebo affect is effective in 10% of some lab experiements. If it floats your boat, cranks you tractor, expands you balloon, etc
My beliefs are based on rational, logical common sense as derived from observations by self, or others.
1} occupied space -- 3 primary kinds of occupied space
.......1a} Spirit-2, physical/energy aka reality or Observed Time is fermions, bosons and aggregate thereof ex sub-atomics, atomics, molecules, planets, galzies etc,
.......1b} Spirit-3, metaphysical-3, Gravity ( ) aka positive shaped ( ) -Space- geodesic,
........1c} Spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark Energy )( aka negative shaped )( -Space- geodesic.
2} Spirit-1 --spirit-of-intent--, metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts ex concept of Space, God, Intellect, Dogs Toyotas etc
3} Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces/surrounds our eternally existent and finite, occupied space Universe #1 above.
See my Cosmic Trinity LINK
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Reality { primary } is the set of truths and facts existent in our observed experiences.
Dreams { 2ndary } are a semi-false reality that stem from our observed experiences of truth and facts.
Sherlock Holmes and Unicorns exist as concepts ergo mind/intellect via and integral processing of brain and nervous system we identify as consciousness.
The truth is an accurate approximation { quality aka degrees of truth }, or depiction of our observed experiences and/or any existence associated with our observed experiences even if not instrumentally quantised or mathematically quantified.
Facts are the individual or collective set of quantisable observations of our experiences.
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@sadolite
The big question is why are children and young adults being taught to think they should get something for nothing?
The Earth is our apple that we all have equal access to and own. It comes with personhood.
Why does being born entitle you to anything?
Because responsibility is inherent to being human, with access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts.
That concept is reserved to the scum sucking monarchies of the world that I still can't believe people allow to exist.
And there are those deep ecologist who believe humans are the scum of the Earth because their polluting the ecological environmental pew they exist in. There is truth in that. Humans may be the largest cancer on Earth. However, that is our God/Universe given right to destroy ourselves { oblivion } or prosper in harmony with nature { Utopia }.
There are no gurranttees humanity will pass the test for their continued existence on Earth because of their lack of unified collective ownership operations or,
that, there exists no God/Universe given warranties i.e. a volcanoe, celestial object etc can take out humanity at any time.
We are born into existence and go with we are given.
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@n8nrgmi
if iran doesn't let inspectors in, should that warrant force?
N. Korea, Russia { Putin }, Pakistan etc, can only mean one thing, USA is great again or soon will be.
...'The rapid effort shortly supplied enough plutonium to test the first atomic explosion in July 1945. The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan, on August 6 was a Tennessee uranium bomb { Oak Ridge } The bomb dropped on Nagasaki three days later used Hanford’s { Washington state } plutonium. The attacks effectively ended World War II."...
Hanford site .."To this day, the endeavor continues, and the site is closed to the public except for escorted tours."..
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The rapid effort shortly supplied enough plutonium to test the first atomic explosion in July 1945. The atomic bomb dropped on Hiroshima, Japan, on August 6 was a Tennessee uranium bomb { Oak Ridge } The bomb dropped on Nagasaki three days later used Hanford’s { Washington state } plutonium. The attacks effectively ended World War II.
Hanford site .."To this day, the endeavor continues, and the site is closed to the public except for escorted tours."..
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@n8nrgmi
The same can be said for Pakistan or any other country. Get real dude.you don't care if iran gets nukes? are you mentally challenged?
The nuclear bomb genie is out of the bag/bottle and the only way to put it back into the bag/bottle is for unified humanity to 'Get Smart' before nuclear bomb accidents, or worse, occur.
This is minimal brainer for those use rational, logical common sense. There is no turning back and going back into the womb/bottle/bag. There is only abortion of nuclear weapons before they abort humanity. You must not have been aware of M.A.D in the 70's, 80's and the actions humans took to attempt some sanity in those regards.
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..."However, while crime levels in closed cities are lower than anywhere else in the world, and thus they are indeed safer in that respect, other dangers are abundant. For example, residents of Ozyorsk are slowly being killed by radiation – it is said that they’re exposed to five times as much radiation as those who live in areas affected by the Chernobyl accident."
..."Chelyabinsk-65, which was renamed Ozersk in 1994, is today one of the most polluted places in the world. Some residents refer to it as the “graveyard of the Earth.” Nevertheless, Ozersk is still a prestigious place to live where, as one resident put it, they get “the best of everything for free.” Ozersk also remains closed to the outside world."...
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@Mopac
@3RU7AL
'The graveyard of the Earth': inside City 40, Russia's deadly nuclear secret
..."The city’s residents know the truth, however: that their water is contaminated, their mushrooms and berries are poisoned, and their children may be sick. Ozersk and the surrounding region is one of the most contaminated places on the planet, referred to by some as the “graveyard of the Earth”."...
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@Snoopy
.."ZATOs Todayaka Secret Ciites
...Many of the Soviet ZATOs remain closed to this day. Russian citizens have to obtain special permission to visit, while foreigners are strictly forbidden. In 2001, the Russian government acknowledged the existence of 42 closed cities.
...In 1995, the residents of Arzamas-16 petitioned to have its name changed to the historic name which it bears today - Sarov. It remains an attractive city to its residents. One resident, Irina, explained, “There were no universities in my own small town, and the university in Sarov attracted me by the fact it was involved with physics and mathematics, which I was interested in.” Sarov is still a closed city today and is protected by the Russian Army.
...Chelyabinsk-65, which was renamed Ozersk in 1994, is today one of the most polluted places in the world. Some residents refer to it as the “graveyard of the Earth.” Nevertheless, Ozersk is still a prestigious place to live where, as one resident put it, they get “the best of everything for free.” Ozersk also remains closed to the outside world."
..."Dating back to the Soviet era, closed cities, where important strategic facilities were hidden and secured, continue to exist in today's Russia. These cities cannot be entered without a special pass, but tourists occasionally manage to make it inside."
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"The peoples of this world must unite or they will perish."......J. Robert Oppenheimer
Now it is one of the most contaminated places on the planet – so why do so many residents still view it as a fenced-in paradise?
• View the trailer for the documentary City 40 here
..."In most – though certainly not all – residents’ eyes, the fence around Ozersk does not serve to keep them in against their wishes, but rather to keep outsiders away from their paradise, protecting them from “the enemy”. The barbed-wire fence remains an intrinsic part of the city’s landscape and the citizens’ psychological makeup and collective identity."....
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I challenge you ---Alec--- to do the following. Obviously you cannot. So you lose again.
Keep Your Friggin Nose Out of a Pregnant Womans Bodily Business unless she asks you place your nose in her bodily business.
Now that would a true moral change if you could even attempt to do that. You cannot because,
1} you fear women or,
2} because your a some kind of a religious fundamentalist or,
3} because you want to hurt women --i.e. have power over them--- in one way or another. Who knows what that my be a result of.
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@keithprosser
As far as I know, 'quanta' is the plural of 'quantum' and so 'quanta' means 'small amounts'! I'll cut you slack that and let 'quanta and qualia' be related to 'quantitative' and 'qualitative', but there has to be a limit to idiosyncrasy!
Oops, I guess I have to correct myself. Triangle is also a quantity and not just a a shape, because of the prefix 'tri' ergo quantity of three.
If we say sphere or circle or torus, then we have a metaphysical-1 shape without any quanta prefix.
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Metaphysical-1 triangle shape is not a quantity but is verifiable via human experience of the existence of an occupied space that approximates the shape of triangle, that, is common to most every human on Earth either visually or tactile
Some people have not yet aquired the metaphysical-1 ability to making a distinction between definitions in the following set.
1} occupied space -- 3 primary kinds of occupied space
.......1a} Spirit-2, physical/energy aka reality or Observed Time is fermions, bosons and aggregate thereof ex sub-atomics, atomics, molecules, planets, galzies etc,
.......1b} Spirit-3, metaphysical-3, Gravity ( ) aka positive shaped ( ) -Space- geodesic,
........1c} Spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark Energy )( aka negative shaped )( -Space- geodesic.
2} Spirit-1 --spirit-of-intent--, metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts ex concept of Space, God, Intellect, Dogs Toyotas etc
3} Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces/surrounds our eternally existent and finite, occupied space Universe #1 above.
See my Cosmic Trinity LINK
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Reality { primary } is the set of truths and facts existent in our observed experiences.
Dreams { 2ndary } are a semi-false reality that stem from our observed experiences of truth and facts.
Sherlock Holmes and Unicorns exist as concepts ergo mind/intellect via and integral processing of brain and nervous system we identify as consciousness.
The truth is an accurate approximation, or depiction of our observed experiences and/or any existence associated with our observed experiences even if not instrumentally quantised or mathematically quantified.
Facts are the quantisable observations of our experiences.
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@Greyparrot
That's how terrible Hillary was.
Hillary won the popular vote, that is how popular she was but you cannot bring yourself to face this truth. Hiillary led in all the polls until Russia played the last of their cards in USA elections. Sad :--( Trump is president because of Trump and you cannot accept that fact either. Trump and his cult followers should go live in Russia and the sooner the better.
Democracy:
A system of government. Best I can tell your anti-government Sad :--(
4 guys and 2 girls in a room. The 4 guys vote to rape the 2 girls.
Government with no morals involving fairness and justice.
Mob rule.
GP's approach existence of any government aka barbarians rule and extreme libertarian.
Republic: The men get 1 vote, the Women get 1 vote. .
Thats 6 votes and lacks any of the complexity involved with human existence.
No raping occurs.
That is hypothetical conclusion that involves fairness and justice but does not consider many of complexities involved with humans;
...1} ex those who favor extremist libertarian view aka mob rules,
....2} mob rules except in more complex scenarios where some of the humans have a set of morals and empathy,
.....3} mob rules except in more complex scenarios where the factors involved allow humans of lesser number to rape ---or whatever--- the larger mob. Ex the lesser group is healthy and younger, or have weapons, or have more access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept.
This above just goes to show that the more narrow minded{ short sighted } set of humans have less access to the imaginative scenarios that go beyond black and white, yes or no etc type scenarios.
The polls given are very limited in scope and consider none of the following;
Empathy and access to rational, logical common sense ergo the golden rule.
The Golden Rule --do unto others as you would have them doonto you---- has
a common variation in many countries and religions. I wondered if there
were any other rules with such commonality e.g,
Is there a silver rule also? "Seek fair and just resolution with
compassion and empathy for those who violate the laws and moral codes of
humanity or its distinct tribes. "
Perhaps a wooden rule? Forgiveness by God is instantaneous, forgiveness
by humans takes time.
Or the bone rule? Eye for eye and toothe for a tooth. [im not sure if
any animals other than humans practice this concept]
Molecular rule? "Share not with your cousin what you would not have
them share with you."
Quantum rule? "Know that the uncertainty of mind, being common to all
humans, does not necessitate chaos."
Space-time Rule? ---Pee-Here-Now is rendition of Ram Dass’sBe Here Now
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@3RU7AL
This sounds reasonable, but I'd be careful to explicitly distinguish Quanta
Quanta = Observed occupied space aka observed Time and has been accepted for many years now.
from Qualia.
Degrees of good, bad, love hate etc.
In other words, I believe it unjustifiably muddys-the-waters to say something like "exists (real)
1}real exists as an occupied space reality --as Ive stated for nearly 20 years now,
as a concept (imaginary)
2} exists as a metaphysical-1 concept as Ive stated for 20 years and Fuller even longer.
(since a particular concept is not scientifically verifiable and or logically necessary).
Metaphysical-1 triangle shape is not a quantity but is verifiable via human experience of the existence of an occupied space that approximates the shape of triangle, that, is common to most every human on Earth either visually or tactile
In other words, I believe it unjustifiably muddys-the-waters to say something like "exists (real) as a concept (imaginary)" (since a particular concept is not scientifically verifiable and or logically necessary).
It is is only muddy to those people ---apparrently yourself--- who have not yet aquired the metaphysical-1 ability to making a distinction between the following set.
1} occupied space -- 3 primary kinds of occupied space
.......1a} Spirit-2, physical/energy aka reality or Observed Time is fermions, bosons and aggregate thereof ex sub-atomics, atomics, molecules, planets, galzies etc,
.......1b} Spirit-3, metaphysical-3, Gravity ( ) aka positive shaped ( ) -Space- geodesic,
........1c} Spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark Energy )( aka negative shaped )( -Space- geodesic.
2} Spirit-1 --spirit-of-intent--, metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts ex concept of Space, God, Intellect, Dogs Toyotas etc
3} Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces/surrounds our eternally existent and finite, occupied space Universe #1 above.
See my Cosmic Trinity LINK
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Reality { primary } is the set of truths and facts existent in our observed experiences.
Dreams { 2ndary } are a semi-false reality that stem from our observed experiences of truth and facts.
Sherlock Holmes and Unicorns exist as concepts ergo mind/intellect via and integral processing of brain and nervous system we identify as consciousness.
The truth is an accurate approximation, or depiction of our observed experiences and/or any existence associated with our observed experiences even if not instrumentally quantised or mathematically quantified.
Facts are the quantisable observations of our experiences.
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@Alec
My new position on abortion that ought to be implemented nationwide. Subject to change:
Here is some change for you so please Read My Lips/Text:
Keep Your Friggin Nose Out of a Pregnant Womans Bodily Business unless she asks you place your nose in her bodily business.
Now that would a true moral change if you could even attempt to do that. You cannot because,
1} you fear women or,
2} because your a some kind of a religious fundamentalist or,
3} because you want to hurt women --i.e. have power over them--- in one way or another. Who knows what that my be a result of.
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@keithprosser
You are notwrong - without free will we are robots, or slaves.
Humans --that created AI-- have access to greater degree of freedoms/options/factors than AI ever will.
The truth exists for those humans that seek it. AI will never have does not have the faculties to ascertain the largest amount of relevant truths and the most relevant truths.
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@Alec
If the US government were to threaten to nuke some peaceful country, the US should denuke ourselves and use the nukes for power.
There is a peaceful country on Earth? USA is not a peacful country ergo in your scenario it would be fine { valid } if any country with nuclear bombs to nuke USA. Your a very confused person.
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False. It is in Irans interest just as it is in USA, Russia, Israel, Pakistan, France, N. Korea etc to have nuclear or hydrogen bombs.
It is humanities interest only as 'peacekeepers' from old world ways of divided nation-state existence.
A unified humanity ergo the dissolving of nation-states, there is absolutely no interest in nuclear/hydrogen bomb existence.
This is a minimal brainer for those who seek truth and rational, logical common sense.
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@3RU7AL
Reality { primary } is the set of truths and facts existent in our observed experiences.Even (IFF) "reality" is equivalent to or just another type of "dream" (THEN) we still have the ability to distinguish between what is scientifically Quantifiable and or a logical necessity and what is notThe truth exists for those who seek it. The
Dreams { 2ndary } are a semi-false reality that stem from observed experiences of truth and facts.
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The truth exists for those who seek it.
Sherlock Holmes and Unicorns exist as concepts ergo mind/intellect via and integral processing of brain and nervous system we identify as consciousness.
The truth is an accurate depiction of our observed experiences and/or any existence associated with our observed experiences even if not instrumentally quantised or mathematically quantified.
1} occupied space -- 3 primary kinds of occupied space
.......1a} Spirit-2, physical/energy aka reality or Observed Time is fermions, bosons and aggregate thereof ex sub-atomics, atomics, molecules, planets, galzies etc,
.......1b} Spirit-3, metaphysical-3, Gravity ( ) aka positive shaped ( ) -Space- geodesic,
........1c} Spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark Energy )( aka negative shaped )( -Space- geodesic.
2} Spirit-1 --spirit-of-intent--, metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts ex concept of Space, God, Intellect, Dogs Toyotas etc
3} Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces/surrounds our eternally existent and finite, occupied space Universe #1 above.
See my Cosmic Trinity LINK
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@Greyparrot
Democracy:
A system of government. Best I can tell your anti-government Sad :--(
4 guys and 2 girls in a room. The 4 guys vote to rape the 2 girls.
Government with no morals involving fairness and justice.
Mob rule.
GP's approach existence of any government aka barbarians rule and extreme libertarian.
Republic: The men get 1 vote, the Women get 1 vote. .
Thats 6 votes and lacks any of the complexity involved with human existence.
No raping occurs.
That is hypothetical conclusion that involves fairness and justice but does not consider many of complexities involved with humans;
...1} ex those who favor extremist libertarian view aka mob rules,
....2} mob rules except in more complex scenarios where some of the humans have a set of morals and empathy,
.....3} mob rules except in more complex scenarios where the factors involved allow humans of lesser number to rape ---or whatever--- the larger mob. Ex the lesser group is healthy and younger, or have weapons, or have more access to metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concept.
This above just goes to show that the more narrow minded{ short sighted } set of humans have less access to the imaginative scenarios that go beyond black and white, yes or no etc type scenarios.
The polls given are very limited in scope and consider none of the following;
Empathy and access to rational, logical common sense ergo the golden rule.
The Golden Rule --do unto others as you would have them doonto you---- has
a common variation in many countries and religions. I wondered if there
were any other rules with such commonality e.g,
Is there a silver rule also? "Seek fair and just resolution with
compassion and empathy for those who violate the laws and moral codes of
humanity or its distinct tribes. "
Perhaps a wooden rule? Forgiveness by God is instantaneous, forgiveness
by humans takes time.
Or the bone rule? Eye for eye and toothe for a tooth. [im not sure if
any animals other than humans practice this concept]
Molecular rule? "Share not with your cousin what you would not have
them share with you."
Quantum rule? "Know that the uncertainty of mind, being common to all
humans, does not necessitate chaos."
Space-time Rule? ---Pee-Here-Now is rendition of Ram Dass’sBe Here Now
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@TheRealNihilist
Biological = soul ergo biological/soul are synonyms.That is if I agree we even have souls.
The truth { metaphysical-1 } exists for those who seek it.
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@3RU7AL
Should one person's rights be sacrificed for the potential benefit of humanity?
"rights" human creation via king or government.
What is a person exactly?
Mind game creation similar to "rights".
What is the basis of human rights?
Empathy and access to rational, logical common sense ergo the golden rule.
a common variation in many countries and religions. I wondered if there
were any other rules with such commonality e.g,
Is there a silver rule also? "Seek fair and just resolution with
compassion and empathy for those who violate the laws and moral codes of
humanity or its distinct tribes. "
Perhaps a wooden rule? Forgiveness by God is instantaneous, forgiveness
by humans takes time.
Or the bone rule? Eye for eye and toothe for a tooth. [im not sure if
any animals other than humans practice this concept]
Molecular rule? "Share not with your cousin what you would not have
them share with you."
Quantum rule? "Know that the uncertainty of mind, being common to all
humans, does not necessitate chaos."
Space-time Rule? ---Pee-Here-Now is rendition of Ram Dass’sBe Here Now
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@3RU7AL
Correct, but there's a difference. Imaginary things do not properly "exist" (as either scientifically Quantifiable and or logically necessary).
The truth exists for those who seek it.
Yes Sherlock Holmes and Unicorns exist as concepts ergo mind/intellect via and integral processing of brain and nervous system we identify as consciousness.
The truth is an accurate depiction of our observed experiences and/or any existence associated with our observed experiences even if not instrumentally quantised or mathematically quantified.
1} occupied space -- 3 primary kinds of occupied space
.......1a} Spirit-2, physical/energy aka reality or Observed Time is fermions, bosons and aggregate thereof ex sub-atomics, atomics, molecules, planets, galzies etc,
.......1b} Spirit-3, metaphysical-3, Gravity ( ) aka positive shaped ( ) -Space- geodesic,
........1c} Spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark Energy )( aka negative shaped )( -Space- geodesic.
2} Spirit-1 --spirit-of-intent--, metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts ex concept of Space, God, Intellect, Dogs Toyotas etc
3} Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces/surrounds our eternally existent and finite, occupied space Universe #1 above.
See my Cosmic Trinity LINK
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@zedvictor4
But I would suggest that as a species we are inherently selfish.
And at humans root barbaric, however, humans also have empthy centers --ex see someone yawn and we may feel like yawing also--- i.e.. we feel what they feel via visual data.
Humans also have access to the most metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts ergo the potential access to the most rational, logical common sense, truths and facts.
Ego is the greatest danger to humanity as well as the potential for success. Like oxygen ego is a double-edged sword i.e. can cut for good or bad.
Erratic Climate Change via global warming is silent slow killer ergo much like high blood pressure. Most people dont see, or are in denial of existence for too long, before it takes them out.
With greenhouse gases already over the PPM limit to retard or reverse what is now set in place to occur, we are left with only the faith and hope that humanity will find a cure, much as in the 70's humanity thought a cure for cancer would occur in maybe 20 years. Well some types of cancer's cures have been created. Erratic Climate Change is a whole other globe of wax.
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@n8nrgmi
it's in no one's interest for iran to have a nuke
False. It is in Irans interest just as it is in USA, Russial, Israel, Pakistan, France, N. Korea etc to have nuclear or hydrogen bombs.
It is humanities interest only as 'peacekeepers' from old world ways of divided nation-state existence.
A unified humanity ergo the dissolving of nation-states, there is absolutely no interest in nuclear/hydrogen bomb existence.
This is a minimal brainer for those who seek truth and rational, logical common sense.
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@keithprosser
Yes Sherlock Holmes and Unicorns exist as concepts ergo mind/intellect via and integral processing of brain and nervous system we identify as consciousness.Sherlock Holmes does not exist.
The truth exists for those who seek it.
The truth is an accurate depiction of our observed experiences and/or any existence associated with our observed experiences even if not instrumentally quantised or mathematically quantified.
The facts are those truths that have been verified/confirmed via instruments or enough fair witness to enough information to make conclude a fact.
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@nagisa3
What is the difference between physical and metaphysical?
1} occupied space -- 3 primary kinds of occupied space
.......1a} Spirit-2, physical/energy aka reality or Observed Time is fermions, bosons and aggregate thereof ex sub-atomics, atomics, moleculse, planets, galzies etc,
.......1b} Spirit-3, metaphysical-3, Gravity ( ) aka positive shaped ( ) -Space- geodesic,
........1c} Spirit-4, metaphysical-4, Dark Energy )( aka negative shaped )( -Space- geodesic.
2} Spirit-1 --spirit-of-intent--, metaphysical-1 mind/intellect/concepts ex concept of Space, God, Intellect, Dogs Toyotas etc
3} Metaphysical-2, macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces/surrounds our eternally existent and finite, occupied space Universe #1 above.
See my Cosmic Trinity LINK
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@Greyparrot
Extinction by cowfart climate change? We are a few decades from being able to colonize the moon, and you think cowfarts will make the planet uninhabitable for all life before then? Moo.
GP, there is no mention of cowfarts in this thread. I think you brain has been exposed to too many cowfarts and that might explain your confused existence in this thread. Please try to get you at together and have some significant and relevance to the thread, or my comments. Thank You.
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