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I am not sure what the fuck has happened to people today to say it is 'misogyny' to know what being a masculine man and feminine woman is and saying 'I like to live my life this way, I will preach it and help others.'

Andrew Tate was one of the world's best kickboxers in his prime and among the elite Karate practioners, though his exact rank isn't known he is essentially arguably among the greatest kickboxers of all time.

He quit what he was doing, perhaps for physical health preservation (not that he lacked skill but he respected the younger fiercer men showing up with talent and skill could, on a bad day, destroy him) and dedicated to different approaches to life, using the money he'd garnered from tournaments and his start-up sponsorships (which weren't much, relative to sports celebs but were decent) and did his own think, grinding.

He has hinted he did use means of tax evasion and ruthless competing and is a shadow partner in businesses he still refuses to inherently name (I beg one has to do with bugatti cars and another with non-Cuban, legal cigars but who knows, maybe he really does love them). For these things, we can vilify him.

As for the suggestion he's trafficked women and such, I am not one to take a side as I also know how shit gets covered up by unscrupulous smugglers but we have to appreciate evidence for what it is. He vehemently denies it and frankly I believe he's the type of guy who'd, if involved in anything like that, offer the women a way out and beat the shit out of certain pimps and abusive clients.

We don't know the story, yet these are plastered on the forefront of any article that tries to then explain how he is misogynistic enough on the platforms to get shut down.

I am not a diehard Andrew Tate fan, I'm a Progressive who doesn't care too much about this superficial macho muscle, bugatti crap but I agree with Tate on a few things.

He simply asked xQc once a very difficult question; if your house is broken into and some men with weapons and strength are gonna essentially rob you or worse, is it your duty as a man, if with your girlfriend/wife, to protect her and risk fighting?

My answer, unlike xQc's cowardly dodge, would have been a brave 'not necessarily' and the reasoning would be that while I'd absolutely agree in a 1v2 or 1v3 even that I can keep things dark or surprise attack and shit, knowing the house much better than the invaders, BUT my main duty as a man vs say even 3 but definitely 4+ invaders is not even to hide, genuinely you may not believe me but I wouldn't hide, I'd either genuinely take my girlfriend and do ninja shit on the roof risking everything (depends, let's say it's an apartment, I'm not against wrappng some torn/cut blankets or shirts etc around our wrists and ankles to easier grapple down the drain pipe and all sorts but realistically if too high up i'd just surrender and hope.

The problem is that if we observe what he says there, it's one of many examples that he doesn't hate women he is just traditionally conservative about a man's role. In my own opinion, if you can't securely kill and/or harm the invaders, you should be an active coward and flee ASAP frantically. Your entire aim should be survival regardless, whether with them, tied up, beaten and cucked, fleeing or attacking.

Your playstyle doesn't mean shit, instead what defines the man is coming out the other end with a live girlfriend/wife and live self that minimised the punishment towards both. Then to sit there, traumatised and sucking it up in an unhealthy but manageable way, by her hospital bed (only possible as you acted rationally) and letting her bitch at you, hate you and all sorts of shit. Patiently, get friendzoned, get blocked and told to get lost for letting it happen to her if need be. Be the fucking man. Three months later she will send you the biggest apology of her life and thank you for completely being there for her, always be open for anything, be it a late night text or whatever (not too open your life and sleep schedule go to too much shit but you get the idea).

It's not easy being a man. It's not easy being the tougher, more leaderlike gender and to even say this sounds so sexist, rude and all that shit.

That's what men were in every fucking culture you can name, especially in ones that lasted. All Tate does is say to be that, that's all his theme is. He encourages you to be resourceful, protective, tough, honest and patient. If these qualities of 'manliness' are misogynistic to want to possess, what the fuck has the word 'misogyny' come to mean?

He was cancelled wrongly. Find me any fucking proof that what I said here was wrong, it's not up to me to find sources for everything I say he said and prove myself right when all his channels got deleted.

There's still reuploads on YT, do your own homework.

I am pretty sure if he'd asked me, not xQc that question, my answer would have made him go a bit silent and reach a middleground agreement.
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She agreed with everything I said, perplexed as to why now even she (or 'they', which she does not care to go by) needs to label herself just to be the tomboy she has been her whole life. To be clear, I picked up on her agreeing by something she said beforehand in the conversation. To have to label and identify as someone who resents labels is a deep irony for her that she does not relate to whatsoever.

I will keep the identity secret ofc but it is someone I genuinely know, won't specify directly irl or not, this person knows who I am irl and could if offended very easily have made drama.

It just goes to show that people still exist that are not politically correct tiptoers and are on the left wing with a passion.
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I don't quite know. I am curious.

At this point, I am not sure how to ever present my stance irl or even online outside of here without trans people taking it totally wrong.

My stance is as follows:

  1. Sex =/= gender, sex is physical and gender is sociological or even psychological
  2. When 'transitioning gender' one is actually transitioning the characteristics of their physical body (HRT and operation). That is mimicking the sex, not the gender of the one they want to mimic. To mimic the gender, they'd only need to mimic haircuts, clothing, ways of talking and acting as well as hobbies and interests  associated with the other gender.
  3. If both the previous arguments are simulatenously true, one has to wonder what is at the root of transgenderism. Is it feminine males and masculine females or is it more so loathing of one's body they were born into? It follows that we'd only want to enable the former, not the self-loathing latter. We would not give artificial hormones to enable an anorexic to remain less hungry and happy, we would not try to help a depressed person enable their sad, hermitic and toxic lifestyle of social withdrawal and poor health... So on and so forth. Why then would we allow a person who wants to mimic the sex, not gender, they fancy having and enable their self-loathing of their natural, healthy body rather than treat the psychiatric condition that is their hatred and dysphoria?
I don't get it. I can't get it. I am forced to zip my mouth in order to blend in with the left wing of this modern generation. It is so horrible because I am so proudly left-wing in basically all other ways.

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WION is solid as fuck News, only really biased when it comes to reporting on India vs Pakistan type matters. They talk about the whole world regularly, they exposed Pfizer for blackmailing countries and are an absolutely fantastic News source to represent south Asia to the world. It is appalling to me that this was cancelled for something controversial that was said and I am so happy that within 12 hours YT caved in and did the right thing.

Something like FB and Twitter would never have thought twice about keeping them banned. I respect Google no matter what other conspiracy theorists tell mea bout them. Google/YT do engage in cancel culture but I feel it's a much more 'open to negotiation' one. I've seen other examples of this before, such as a channel about children with special needs that kept stopping comments 'just in case' of abuse for almost 2 years until a few months ago where they admitted it was unfair to stop because they're muzzling all the supportive comments.

The channel for the special needs people is this (warning to judgemental pricks, it has people with very unusual facial and bodily conditions and/or mental disabilities on it.
^ the cancelling, over 3 years ago

^ celebrating the long-overdue de-censoring.
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Given the recent attempts to characterize Trump's assault on the American people election as an example of CANCEL CULTURE let's lay out some actual examples of illiberal ostracism from this week's news:

  • from The NEW YORKER:
    • San Francisco’s Board of Education voted, 6–1, to change the names of forty-four schools, including schools named after Abraham Lincoln and George Washington. A committee formed by the board in 2018, in the wake of the white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville, had determined that any figures who “engaged in the subjugation and enslavement of human beings; or who oppressed women, inhibiting societal progress; or whose actions led to genocide; or who otherwise significantly diminished the opportunities of those amongst us to the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,” should no longer have schools named after them and had recommended which names should be changed. Washington’s name was struck because he held slaves, Lincoln’s because of his policies toward Native Americans. Senator Dianne Feinstein’s name will be removed from a school, owing to the decision, when she was San Francisco’s mayor, in the nineteen-eighties, to replace a Confederate flag that was part of a Civic Center display and had been taken down by a protester. (A spokesperson for Feinstein said that the city’s parks department replaced the flag “on its own accord.” She later had it replaced with a Union flag.) Some of the committee’s recommendations have received more criticism than others: Paul Revere Elementary School will be renamed because of his role in the Penobscot Expedition of 1779, an assault on a British fort that the committee claimed, incorrectly, was intended to colonize the Penobscot people.
  • from FOX NEWS:
    • Actor Gina Carano of Lucasfilm's 'The Mandalorian' at the Disney+ Global Press Day on October 19, 2019 in Los Angeles, California. Lucasfilm announced Wednesday she is 'not currently employed' by the company following backlash she received for controversial tweets. (Alberto E. Rodriguez/Getty Images for Disney)
      • "Really sad about @ginacarano not being in @themandalorian anymore, I really liked Cara Dune, she was so bada--, but I’m utterly disappointed to find out she’s an anti-masker, alt-righter, q-anoner, transphobic Trump supporter??! Girl... WTF," one person tweeted.
      • "Also Gina Carano was fortunate to not be fired for a LOT of the other things she said previously. I would be fired from my job if I said some of those things! Being famous doesn't make you untouchable, or at least it shouldn't," another Twitter user reacted.
      • "People defending #GinaCarano need to have a word with themselves. Stop defending people being racist. Racism is racism. It's rather telling that she deleted the tweets," another person said.
      • One person labeled Carano as a "white supremacist" and argued Disney+ and Lucasfilm can fire whomever they want because they are private companies. "If they do not want a white supremacist/anti-semitic person working 4 them, they can take appropriate measures 2 remove that person from their payroll. #GinaCarano must learn words & actions have consequences. If not, oh well," the person said.
    • Lucasfilm confirmed Wednesday Carano is 'not currently employed' by the company amid backlash she received on social media.   The #CancelDisneyPlus hashtag picked up steam Wednesday night into Thursday morning.  Some social media users shared proof they had begun canceling their Disney+ subscriptions. "I am tired of mob rule and cancel culture," one person tweeted.  Others called for Disney+ to be canceled by arguing that Carano's tweets weren't insensitive.  Twitter was ablaze with criticism against Gina Carano this week, with the hashtag #FireGinaCarano trending before Disney+ came under fire once it was revealed she's no longer employed by Lucasfilm.
    • According to Variety, the backlash against Carano, 38, began when she shared a message on the social media platform in which she compared today's political divide to the events in Nazi Germany.
      • "Jews were beaten in the streets, not by Nazi soldiers but by their neighbors…even by children. Because history is edited, most people today don’t realize that to get to the point where Nazi soldiers could easily round up thousands of Jews, the government first made their own neighbors hate them simply for being Jews. How is that any different from hating someone for their political views," read the post, which was originally composed by another account.
    • A second post contained a photo of a person wearing cloth masks to cover their face and head with the caption: "Meanwhile in California." The outlet reports that both posts were removed from her Instagram by Wednesday afternoon.  Others remained, however, including one that reportedly read, "Expecting everyone you encounter to agree with every belief or view you hold is f--king wild," as well as another that said, "Jeff Epstein didn’t kill himself."
    • Carano played Cara Dune in seven episodes of "The Mandalorian" across its first two seasons in 2019 and 2020. She was rumored to be the center of the upcoming "Mandalorian" spin-off "Rangers of the New Republic" at Disney+, but Disney has not announced casting for the show.
  • State Republican Parties censuring Republican politicians for condemning political violence by Republicans:
    • Liz Cheney
    • Ben Sasse
    • Jeff Flake
    • CIndy McCain

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Open Letter On Cancel culture

...censoriousness is also spreading more widely in our culture: an intolerance of opposing views, a vogue for public shaming and ostracism, and the tendency to dissolve complex policy issues in a blinding moral certainty. We uphold the value of robust and even caustic counter-speech from all quarters. But it is now all too common to hear calls for swift and severe retribution in response to perceived transgressions of speech and thought. More troubling still, institutional leaders, in a spirit of panicked damage control, are delivering hasty and disproportionate punishments instead of considered reforms.

The way to defeat bad ideas is by exposure, argument, and persuasion, not by trying to silence or wish them away. We refuse any false choice between justice and freedom, which cannot exist without each other. We need to preserve the possibility of good-faith disagreement without dire professional consequences. If we won’t defend the very thing on which our work depends, we shouldn’t expect the public or the state to defend it for us.

A huge list of famous notable liberals in academia and literature signed this open letter. Look at it and see how many of them you recognize.

Obama on Call-Out Culture: ‘That’s Not Activism’

“I do get a sense sometimes now among certain young people, and this is accelerated by social media, there is this sense sometimes of: ‘The way of me making change is to be as judgmental as possible about other people,’” he said, “and that’s enough.”
“Like, if I tweet or hashtag about how you didn’t do something right or used the wrong verb,” he said, “then I can sit back and feel pretty good about myself, cause, ‘Man, you see how woke I was, I called you out.’
“That’s not activism. That’s not bringing about change,” he said. “If all you’re doing is casting stones, you’re probably not going to get that far. That’s easy to do.”
“This idea of purity and you’re never compromised and you’re always politically ‘woke’ and all that stuff,” Mr. Obama said. “You should get over that quickly.”

(Liberals didn't know what to do with this rebuke from their darling!)

It seems like liberals are getting fed up with liberalism. Antifa is burning down their buildings, demonstrators are surrounding their homes and businesses, they are losing jobs and contracts to cancel culture, and they can't get a cop when they need one. political correctness is out of control and is correcting even liberals. They don't like it.
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