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Player Claim Role NP1
2.whiteflame Riddler JOAT Killed Earth, converted to town
3.ILikePie5. Batman. Must block 2 kills ???
4.Barney. Poison Ivy ??? ???
5.SirAnonymous Occasionally wears green ???
9.crystalynx ??? ??? ???
Mafia
6.SupaDudz. Joker. JOAT Converted to scum
1.Wylted. ??? Godfather N/A
Graveyard
x.Earth Dr. Strange Cop Killed. RIP
x.Coreyinthehouse Bane. Vig RIP
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@Vader
I still have my shot left to use. Mafia has their kill. All we need to do is lynch town and we can joint win. Sure town can stall but we will still win since we have 2x kills tn
If Wylted dies, you'd have to choose which single agility to use. Not that you'll be able to.
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Player Claim Role NP1
2.whiteflame Riddler JOAT Killed Earth, converted to town
3.ILikePie5. Batman. Pacifist ???
4.Barney. Poison Ivy ??? ???
5.SirAnonymous Occasionally wears green ???
x.Earth Dr. Strange Cop Killed. RIP
x.Coreyinthehouse Bane. Vig RIP
9.crystalynx
Mafia
6.SupaDudz. Joker. JOAT Converted to scum
1.Wylted. ??? Godfather N/A
Graveyard
x.Earth Dr. Strange Cop Killed. RIP
x.Coreyinthehouse Bane. Vig RIP
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@PREZ-HILTON
I weirdly appreciate your style on this. Unfortunately, I'm town.
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@whiteflame
I oddly had a feeling about you last day phase...
As for this tactic, it is just so far out of character for you to be faking it. If you are, you deserve the win!
Anyone with a role they can use to prevent Supa from doing anything should use it on him during NP2.
I'll see what I can do.
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VTL Wylted
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@bmdrocks21
Affirmative Action if blindly followed indefinitely, sets itself on the slippery slope towards the very problems it hopes to combat.
At the same time, people with generational disadvantages, should be given a leg up to assist them in opportunity to enter various fields. A not so complex way to do this, would be free state college for the top students at any highschool.
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@Best.Korea
Thank you!
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@Best.Korea
You can still troll. You can proclaim Kim to be the God Emperor from Warhammer 40k. I’m just asking that you tone down the talk of millions or billions of real people dying as a good thing, because it was making people uncomfortable and the CoC puts slight limits on hate speech (not that I think you were serious).
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@IwantRooseveltagain
True, women only care about money, regardless of political affiliation.Gay Parrot has a warped relationship with women. Probably because he has never kissed one and he lives in his mother’s basement.
Please try to attack a users ideas, instead of what you imagine about their personal life.
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@Best.Korea
South Africa? I dont see why US shouldnt nuke it before US nukes itself.You have 400 nukes? Thats enough to nuke Africa and America. The Russia can nuke Europe and then itself.China can nuke Australia.So after the nuclear suicide by the rest of the world, only North Korea should remain.Then the world will be perfect.
Please reign in your nationalistic based pro-genocide talk. I get that you're trying to be edgy, but there are limits on this site.
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scum slips are a weird concept, because the vast majority prove to not be scum. that said, AOTBE, it’s target someone with a +5% chance of being scum, or end the day on no lynch.
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@Coreyinthehouse
Any good reason against feeding you to the asylum?
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I prefer to avoid killing new players, but there’s enough reason to suspect him, and practically none on anyone else.
Unvote,
VTL Corey
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@PREZ-HILTON
Why is it better to test Supa with deathproof, which apparently is sometimes a mafia power, instead of vig?
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@Earth
It's odd that Joker is TP. Has he ever been admitted to Arkham?
Frequently. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veju4PxhuGc
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Player Claim Role
1.Wylted.
2.whiteflame
3.ILikePie5. Batman. Pacifist
4.Barney. wears green. ???
5.SirAnonymous Occasionally wears green
6.SupaDudz. Joker. JOAT
7.Earth
8.Coreyinthehouse Bane.
9.crystalynx
Moderators commonly end up in the scum pile, so decent chance of whiteflame, SupaDudz, or myself being scum. As we start dying, I suggest looking to those who remain.
Supa should vig someone tonight (don't say who until morning), on the basis of the Monty Hall calculations. Plus two night kills would strongly imply he's not scum (letting scum kill multiple people per night would seem to be a bastard setup).
I dislike the Batman claim, as he's not a villain; and the other third party is. I do wonder if the claimed mod kill happens in addition to the lynch or instead of it.
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Is anyone here a hero other than Batman? I will say that I am a villain, and I assume everyone else to be. ... I'd still like colors too, to limit fake claims later.
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As much as new players are statistically more likely to be mafia, they’re not falling for the ‘tell us about the mafia team discord’ so I think we should look for other leads.
That said, to keep the tradition alive:
VTL Supa!
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@crystalynx
since when does Spiderman have green
During the Spider-Man international era, his logo had a green glow around it. And during the current one when he’s working for Osborn, there’s a good amount of green on his costume.
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@Coreyinthehouse
It’s covered in green question marks!
Kidding.
I will neither confirm nor deny your theory that I’m the riddler.
I will however say it’s more than just green ascents (Spider-Man sometimes has a touch of green on his costume, but clearly everyone thinks blue and red for him).
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@crystalynx
How is mod error more likely to you?
A moderator overlooking a single vote is a fairly frequent occurrence.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Way back on #18, why did you jump to the conclusion that someone stole your vote against the new player, instead of the more likely moderator error?
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1.Wylted.
2.whiteflame
3.ILikePie5. Batman. Pacifist
4.Barney. wears green. ???
5.SirAnonymous
6.SupaDudz. Joker. JOAT
7.Earth
8.Coreyinthehouse
9.crystalynx
I remember a couple others gave character hints, but off the top of my head I can’t remember who.
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@crystalynx
People will inevitably pressure you into it, but it'd be an error to offer it up immediately. If you're a power role, then you tell scum to target you; and if you're not, then you help zero scum in on those who are.
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some third parties have the goal of being recruited. So dangerous to wholly trust them. Also seems weird that Joker would have the goal of survive instead of kill Batman.
That said, I really don’t mind if a third party comes in first place. I don’t view that as town losing, so long as the game continues.
I would appreciate it if everyone gave a costume clue, to box in any potential fake claims later. Color gives very little away, but would serve this well.
Also anyone have any obscene characters? Not asking for the character reveal, just if it’s lesser known.
That said, I really don’t mind if a third party comes in first place. I don’t view that as town losing, so long as the game continues.
I would appreciate it if everyone gave a costume clue, to box in any potential fake claims later. Color gives very little away, but would serve this well.
Also anyone have any obscene characters? Not asking for the character reveal, just if it’s lesser known.
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@ILikePie5
My justification is that Batman’s one rule is not killing anyone, rather he wants to save people.
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Jokes aside, what's your win condition?
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@K_Michael
Fun fact: if you shoot a guy who has taken a lethal dose of a drug before the drug kills him, you are still a murderer.
Regardless of drugs in the body, if you shoot a guy or strangle a guy and he dies, it's a wholly fallacious claim that those two things are related. That you inflicted fatal injuries and he just so happened to die, is a mere correlation, and correlation doesn't equal causation!
/satire
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@SirAnonymous
This is true, therefore as a supporter of LAL,
VTL Barney!
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While not suggesting we out our roles or anything, sooner or later we'll have to start telling something...
Part of my costume is green.
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@Vici
I don't need to cite another debater to prove that you have mediocre analysis abilities. we start by assuming you are not good (chaos state) and then you provided four debates to prove you have good analysis and then I debunked them, hence putting you back into the starting point of not good. I don't need to cite people who have better analysis than you though I easily can (mr Chris, novice by a long shot, bones, whiteflames)
In the chaos state Chris, Novice, Bones, and Whiteflame, are all inferior at analysis to the debaters I defeated for having zero analysis ability shown.
At best your first standard shows that I am merely 3th place out of the 636, and to even then you chose to directly include cherry-picked data from DDO to make that conclusion.
Your second standard of good analysis abilities showed me to be the best on the site (within the evidence presented for consideration).
Your third standard of outside the site has me using debating to save dozens of lives. So anyone which agrees that the scope is beyond this site, would have to be anti-ethical to side with you.
And within your forth standard of never forfeits, I was proven to have zero forfeits; setting me above many of the debaters you listed along with the vast majority of the site (again, you insisted that forfeiting counts as debating, making people who full forfeit and never debate again part of the pool of comparison).
I dropped the fact that people emulated your style frankly because I ran out of words and there are far more important factors to address.
Dropping that my analysis is so good that the people you consider good are good for copying me... There's a host of ways you could have mitigated this, but you did not; leaving my stellar analysis abilities that you insist defines a good debater unchallenged.
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@Vici
Name one example you cited of another debater being better at analysis than I? You even dropped that the best debaters directly emulate my style.
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@Vici
Since I did not link my profile, you should really take the time to read the debate sometime.
I won source points for an overwhelming amount of evidence in comparison to you. If in doubt, compare the analysis examples of me verses anyone on your list.
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@PREZ-HILTON
Barney just source spammed the debate
Simply untrue.
To raise the debate above mere assertions or voting based on who the voter like, evidence was needed for voters to weigh. Further, unlike Vici, I did not base any of my evidence on DDO; but rather positive contributions on this site and beyond.
Take my saving lives using my debate skills as an example. One source was to show this is longstanding knowledge, and another to show the death rates I did something about.
One thing Vici and I agree on is that good debaters are good an analysis; therefore I presented samples of my analysis ability to be compared to any others she could have offered. It was give actual examples, or just treat my skill level as a truism and not really argue it.
P.S.: When I found a vote in my favor to be lacking, I politely informed the voter of the error and pushed for it to be removed. I have not reported any votes against me (I very rarely do).
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@Vici
That you did that level of datamining in under 3 hours, to include records from DDO (which you had a rule explicitly against...) is amazingly impressive. Good job!
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@RationalMadman
@SirAnonymous
I don't believe they thought I would accept, and there's still a major quality difference. While possible, it seems highly unlikely the person compiled all that data (including data from DDO) is the same one who wrote https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/8100-calling-on-debateart-the-biggest-contest-you-have-ever-seen?page=1&post_number=6
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@Vici
Purely out of curiosity, who actually wrote your R1 arguments? And no, clearly I do not believe you did that datamining in under 3 hours.
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@RationalMadman
I did not realize that about the role. I thought it was basically a roleblocker... But yeah, just read on the wiki, and when targeting mafia it can remove special powers the next night, but will only drop a mafia down to being a goon.
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@RationalMadman
Credit to you on spotting the scum. Your strong feelings on it were much of why I targeted Pie.
I wasn’t 100% convinced or anything, but it was the best chance at stopping the night kill.
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@Earth
Wow! Not one person has you in their town pile. Either you’re scum playing a last minute mind game, or you’re that thick headed you’re not even trying to provide any useful information to your own team.
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Assuming it’s Earth and That, which do we think is more likely the goon and which is more likely the power role?
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@SirAnonymous
I don't remember the exact ELO formula, but in theory the Novice/Mall team can trade points until they claim the top and bottom spots.
While it will take a lot of really pointless debates, they have persistence.
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Caught up. Thanks for not making that painful.
This post feels off:
Kinda getting me as scum vibes when I try too hard.
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@whiteflame
Getting caught up while in line for coffee.
Thanks for saving me! Would have been awkward to replace someone and die that fast.
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BBD = Big Black Dick
I targeted pie last night.
Off to class.
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I have work until 4pm, then school until 7pm, and possibly going to a haunted house after.
Someone please catch me up on what happened yesterday. It’s a lot of pages (from what I skimmed, mostly RM hyper fixating).
And getting claims out of the way: I’m Michelle Obama’s BBD.
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@Vader
Users:
- Intelligence_06
Long deserved for a host of reasons. - GreyParrot
Probably our most dedicated political commentator, and long time community member. - Lunatic
How the heck is Lunatic not already in the HoF?
Debates:
- THBT: On balance, the US ought to make abortion illegal.
A very fine example of quality debating. - Resolved: On balance, the Christian doctrine of Penal Substitutionary Atonement is ethically tenable.
One of our best debates on theology. - US Military Response To Chinese Invasion Taiwan
Important considerations and implications on the world scale.
Forums:
- DDO is shutting down
Pretty historic. - What has Airmax done to deliver on campaign promises?
Bit of a hall of shame moment for most of us, but appropriate. - Russia and Ukraine
Really touches on issues well beyond this site.
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@zedvictor4
It may be a subjective and flawed interpretation, but Type1 is #1 on the leaderboards!
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