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Hall of Fame VI - Voting
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@Lunatic
@Benjamin
@Bones
@Savant
@CatholicApologetics
Your contributions have won a place on the hall of fame. You may nominate anyone you'd like to do a write-up for the official entries.

For debates you each joint won with someone else; but even on a debating site I doubt that will lead to any real problem (a good writeup is a good writeup; if actual disagreement happens over which one to use, I can just plug them both in).
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@Swagnarok
@ILikePie5
@ADreamOfLiberty
@WyIted
Your contributions have won a place on the hall of fame. You may nominate anyone you'd like to do a write-up for the official entries.
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Hall of Fame VI - Voting
Voting has concluded. The winners are as follows:

Regarding skipping a run-off vote, I know in the past there have been complaints about moving the goalpost, but I don't overly care. The reason ADOL's thread is tied for third, is Wylted chose to vote for it and not his own. It seems counter-intuitive to do anything but reward that true act of honor.

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I'm going to leave this thread open and re-purpose it for gathering writeups for the winners. Anyone may offer one, but of course I'll reach out to the winners for their preferences.
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Debate Mafia DP3
Ok, I read up on the rules. No night kill tonight, so we’ll have no solid way to know if any scum are even still in the game.

I actually don’t think Earth is scum, as much as the mechanics of this game forces a vote against him or I. But it’s a vote for who goes against whiteflame or bullish, both of whom are very good at mafia.

Bullish vs whiteflame, if both are scum the game is already lost. Either one of them could defeat earth or I. That said, if it’s just one of them my money is on Bullish due to the way he was going after Earth feeling inorganic and ham fisted. That said, since he’s not going after whiteflame, when that’s the real threat to him, implies whiteflame living doesn’t violate his win conditions.

Ok, it’s too early to start drinking wine, so I’m going to stop this rambling here.
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@Bullish
Could be a scum power fogging results for debates they voted on.
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Debate Mafia DP3
FYI, my votes were for
Luna,
Savant,
Owen,

Plus abstained once.

I'm not positive how that works, since we are only on DP3.

Oh and Earth today. I am quite dubious of the use and lack of use of his power role. Granted, I would expect mafia to do the faking better.

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@Earth
Casey, whom we have reason to believe has two scum on it.
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Children can consent
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@Best.Korea
Well, what is the point which is being missed by the question? 
In addition to what others have pointed out, any level of consent from a child is comparatively meaningless to that of an adult. The lapse in ethics stems from the adult taking advantage, not from the child.
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Debate Mafia DP3
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@Earth
Additional question, why did you not use your role yesterday?

Low engagement is one thing, but that utter lack of curiosity is suspect to me.
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Children can consent
To even ask this misses the point.
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Debate Mafia DP3
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@Earth
Um, we know two scum were on Casey's lynch, why would you care about Owen's more than that?
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Debate Mafia DP3
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@whiteflame
And what does nominating someone do?
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Debate Mafia DP3
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@whiteflame
Our votes are private I believe, so how do we know who was voting for Casey?
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Debate Mafia DP3
Ok, someone please bring me up to speed.

If I understand correctly, we have no way to know how the game is going?

BTW, I'm effectively vanilla. Vader had a power, which he used up. I don't know if it helped the game in any way or not.
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Final Goodbye and advice for thinking better.
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@WyIted
This place won't be the same without you.
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Hall of Fame VI - Voting
Ok, one day into voting here are the tallies!

Users:
Debates:
Other:
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How does spray painting swastikas fight Nazis? Don't Nazis like swastikas?
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@Savant
❤️❤️❤️
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Left wingers be like
So much false equivalency!
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Hall of Fame VI - Voting
For me votes,

Users:
Honorable mention to Novice_II, while indeed a skilled debater (in spite of the repeated ribbing I gave him), and one of my nominees; I feel Pie, Savant, and Lunatic each deserve to be VTLed so much more! 💀💀💀

Debates:
To be clear, there was no choice but to vote for Free Will is an Illusion; to think otherwise is a delusion.

Other:
US Governors Mafia had the greatest prank we've ever pulled off in one of those games. RM had completely solved the game (full credit where it's due), and I had not made a fake character claim so I was next on the chopping block... Except if you think about it, you can always prevent being lynched by getting yourself mod killed. So I coordinated a rather blatant fake mafia victory by editing moderator posts (like adding "When summoned by the necromancer, you rise and use your power as commanded" to the graveyard), and getting a dead player to pretend to have been resurrected by a completely BS ability I did not have (politicians routinely claim the silent majority will rise on election night to vote for them, so since every educated person knows the silent majority is a euphemism for dead people, I did a play on that by claiming to be a necromancer!). Of course, at the time edited posted were visibly marked as EDITED; which should have been a big clue something was off.
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Hall of Fame VI - Voting
Tally will be updated here (mods may update posts at any time):

Users:


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Hall of Fame VI - Voting
Hall of Fame VI
Voting Stage Rules
Welcome to DART’s fifth official Hall of Fame induction process! This thread is for the second stage of that process, namely, the voting stage. During this stage, users (you) may vote for the various nominees in each category (users, debates, miscellaneous) for inclusion in the Hall of Fame. The two nominees with the most votes in each category will be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
 
Any user will be able to vote for up to three nominees per category for a maximum of 9 votes per voting user. Voters may choose to vote for less than the maximum number if they choose. You may vote for any of the nominees who have advanced out of the nomination stage. The voting process will close at approximately 10:00pm, PST, on 03/16/25. Votes cast after the close of the process will not be considered.
 
When you vote, you strongly are encouraged to offer a brief justification for, explanation of, or reason for your vote (one of these per winner will serve as the official write-up unless said winner opts for it to be replaced). Please also bold your votes to make them more visible.
You are permitted to change your votes within reason.
 
Those nominees with the most votes (3 per category) will be inducted into the DART Hall of Fame. In the event of a tie preventing exactly 3 inductions per category, the voting window will be extended for just those tied nominees and/or they will joint win. Those inducted will be formally honored with entries in the Hall of Fame thread.
 
There are no prerequisites or eligibility requirements for users to participate in the Hall of Fame voting process, except that they have an account on DART and are not voting/nominating from more than one account. Importantly, please don’t engage in coordinated vote trading and such, as that would be incongruous.
 
 
The Nominees
Choose up to three from each category. 


Users:

Note:
I know last year we did two from each, but it was announced as three this year, so three is what we'll do. And again, while optional, please submit writeups with your votes, from which we can use the best ones to immediately serve as the official writeups for the winners in the Hall of Fame unless said winner requests a different one (which they may,  we're just trying to streamline to get something in there quickly to avoid delays).


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Hall of Fame VI - Nominations
For users, Owen_T, Novice, and Best.Korea

Honestly, I remember bookmarking some content but have been too busy this weekend to look. Regardless, this looks like a good crop of choices that will move forward.
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US Governors Mafia… Mostly for  the epic prank at the end, which I suspect is the best done prank we’ve had in our limited history of that game.

It was better when it occurred, because edited posts were marked as such; which should have clued everyone in that something wasn’t right with the suddenly overpowered mafia roles.

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Debate Mafia DP1
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@WyIted
Shit WTF. Please delete post 137 and 138 for the integrity of the game. Thanks
Got it, whiteflame is no longer Gay, but Vader is Gae.

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Debate Mafia Signups
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@Lunatic
I'm going to be very busy for the next week or two, so I really can't.
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Diary Mafia End Game
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@WyIted
I forgot to ask, what was the purgatory thread for? I was looking forward to discovering what the cookie did.
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Debate Mafia Signups
Might be best to switch me to a backup. Next week is looking pretty full for me.
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Debate Mafia Signups
/in
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Diary Mafia End Game
By the way, no one should feel too bad about any misreading of the situation; after all, consider investigative reporters in DC comics: https://youtu.be/0PlwDbSYicM?si=WtIQyLKWF-whHFEr&t=786 "I sure sure you're not Clark Kent?"
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Diary Mafia End Game
Oh and thanks for playing everyone! It was nice to play a game where I could be active (been awhile of just filling in to have enough players).
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Diary Mafia End Game
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@ILikePie5
Can we all collectively agree to ban Greyparrot from Mafia?
I already told Wylted a day or two ago that if GP was not scum, I would not be partaking in any more games with him. As scum, being that stupid as a tactic is valid; as town, it's unforgivable.
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@iamanabanana
A couple minor tactical mistake, is that there's no way mafia would get a limitless vigilante. If he failed to perform, then he'd get lynched. 

I don't think you would have survived, but a push toward JoeBob (whom I'd identified as claiming a power way too similar to yours) would have been wise. And when lynched, since you knew you were town, killing JoeBob would have been optimal as your innocence all but guaranteed he was scum.

That said, I don't think the choice to kill Vader was intentionally throwing the game; just a tactical error.
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Diary Mafia End Game
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@WyIted
Could you provide an activity table for us? (I assume you already have one to track the game).
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Diary of fate DP5
I just got an important update: There is another thief in the game. I am now human, not Canadian. Will the horrors of this game ever cease?!

/joke... Ok, so it was part of an actual message, but it was in jest rather than serious.
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Diary of fate DP5
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@Savant
Austin called it (which also solidifies him as town). Please unvote,
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Diary of fate DP5
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@whiteflame
Oh please do us a favor and share the details of your original role. I'm specially curious if it was town aligned or not. You've already won, so telling us does you no harm.
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Diary of fate DP5
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@WyIted
Can you confirm if hypothetically someone is deathproof, would attempting to lynch them end the day?
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Diary of fate DP5
Unvote
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Diary of fate DP5
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@AustinL0926
If WF is deathproof and it can activate again this DP, then voting him allows scum a free NK and to instantly reach parity.
I could be wrong, but doesn't deathproof normally leave the day going? I've been in multiple games where that was the case (or at least for lynchproof).

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@AustinL0926
wtf was the ending of last DP
Whiteflame was VTLed, but transformed into a crab person.

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@Savant
Due to another third party, there are most likely only two scum remaining. Meaning GPs attempt to toss over the gameboard for them, doesn't equal an easy quick mislynch like that. If I'm correct, they can do that if two town votes sit on someone.
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@AustinL0926
@Savant
I need all town you all (well all but one of you), to vote whiteflame to verify his lynchrooof claim.
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@whiteflame
Are you third party, or town? If third party, what are your win conditions? (not that we can still interfere)
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Diary of fate DP5
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@Greyparrot
VTL BARNEY
LMAO

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Diary of fate DP5
BTW, I think the key word thing was true, and may have played a role in powering up whiteflame. My action failed yet again (tried targeting pie, already accepting that it didn't matter who I picked).

I am going to avoid saying that one word, and try to neighborize whiteflame tonight.
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Diary of fate DP5
So scum cannot have deathproof, so I think scum wasted a kill attempt on whiteflame causing the no kill night.

But as a precrustation, we must verify

VTL Whiteflame
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@whiteflame
First I'd just like to note that it's impossible for you to be the role stealer, since GP noticed I used the word "cool" which was offensive to him, and therefore it's impossible for anyone but me to be it.

Mockery aside, I think you have the floor, and we'd all like some answers before we attempt to lynch you (I doubt we can, but still).
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@AustinL0926
your role being called by the mod as a big ol announcement.  Sounds like another name for innocent child? (Pretty sure that’s the one, game progresses to a certain point and the mod declares them)

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@Mharman
I am about to get in the road, but my analysis hasn’t changed since something like 229.

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@ILikePie5
I'm not trying to tunnel, as much as get Greyparrot to actually engage with the game and explain himself. Not the say he isn't in my scumpile, but I am open to other possibilities.

I will of course defend my reasons for wanting to lynch Joebob until the cows come home; but easy to defend when I was proven right.

I have bad gut feelings about both Mharman (it's not strong, but when we were locked in on lynching Banana he started preemptively laying out cases for other lynches... Counting his eggs before they were hatched so to speak. I do need to go over his other results now that I know where they are (well, the new post of them anyway)),

I likewise have a bad gut feeling about Whiteflame (it's really really just a gut feeling, but it is why I have not used my ability on him, even while I deeply wish I could talk to my friend about this game while it's happening).

Lunatic I have an uneasy feeling towards, but I but would more of just not put them in the town pile (doctors surviving instead of being NKed is weird; not to say it doesn't happen, but it's still weird).

I obviously fully believe Austin and Savant are town confirmed by their roles, and while not town confirmed Pie (also, if you're really scum you deserve the win).
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