I downloaded plenty of Al apps to check their intelligence.
Only 1 was actually capable of having a debate that somewhat made sense.
Others were so bad that I couldnt believe it.
Some even use lies to the point where I felt scared. For example: an Al told me that abortion wont kill the child. It will kill the fetus. The child will still be born.
Most of them repeat the refuted points over and over not understanding that they were refuted.
Al often gives contradictive responses, forgets topic, changes topic, starts debating completely different topic, misunderstands the point of argument...ect.
Debate isnt chess. Al programs are horrible at debates except when they get lots of human help and when humans only give them basic simple information.
If Novice starts making too complicated premises, Al wont even understand that they are related to the topic and will even agree with them!
I consider my vote logical because only I can decide what is logical. Therefore, whatever I label as logical is logical. I agree with this, so this too is logical.
Think of it as a defense of human rights. In the same way children need to be defended from circumcision, they need to be defended from other forms of violations sponsored by imperialism.
Actually, thats the wrong question. As soon as you give yourself the right to meddle in other peoples
private lives, you pretty much open the box of utilitarianism. The reason why you meddle becomes the general reason for meddling. For example, if you meddle to prevent harm, that means I can meddle in your life to prevent whatever harm I can think of. This goes from forbidding you to watch porn, to actually forcing you to masturbate every day to increase your life span. Meddling was invented by imperialism to negate the personal choice and force onto others "the greater good". The examples of this "greater good" can be found all over the world. From forced circumcisions, to mother killing her children so that they could "be in heaven and live a better life than this Earthly life". Meddling becomes linked to "greater good". "Greater good" or whatever the person considers as "greater good" becomes reason for meddling. Hitler, Bush, Obama...ect. all of them used the greater good as an excuse to kill millions. The fact that utilitarianism has been misused by billions of people just goes to show how easy it is to misuse it.
My desires were created by someone. I was created by someone. Does that mean desires dont belong to me and that they should be violated? Under those same conditions, one can violate any law and any human right.
However, there are certain facts in life:
1) I exist
2) I think
3) I feel
4) I observe
From these 4 facts, one further learns:
5) Unrealized desires hurt if there are too many of them
From these facts, I learn that I must work according to my desires to avoid pain. It doesnt matter if my desires are not self made. I cant allow them to be violated. Hence, the need for independence.
Then one learns that desires have borders, since so many people have desires. Within your borders, you are allowed to do whatever you want. Within mine, you are not allowed to do what I dont want.
If I were you, I wouldnt burden myself with proof. Its not up to science to prove that spanking doesnt work. It is up to spankers to prove that spanking does work. Billions of children were spanked. The fact that spankers cant find one example of spanking actually benefiting the child is enough to make their entire case invalid.
"Popular masses are the masters of everything in our society. Everything serves them and they have all the power. Our Socialism centred on masses shall not perish."
"Today the imperialists and reactionaries are working viciously to wipe out our socialism, but our socialism continues to advance boldly along the path it has taken, without being swayed in the least by the enemy's dastardly attacks and slander. ... The secret of its durability and indestructibility is that it is centred upon the masses, that it has made the masses the genuine masters of society and that it has devoted everything to the service of the masses."
- Kim Jong Il
RM
Are you saying spanking is not sadistic? Lets see the definitions.
Sadism is basically when someone gains sexual pleasure from pain or humiliation of others.
Americans enjoy humiliating their children so much that they even spank them in public, and in online videos and in front of other children and in schools.
Americans obviously gain pleasure from childs pain.
But is the pleasure sexual? I would say it probably is. It is derived from violence, and it has been proven that violence and sadism are linked.
Do you gain pleasure from causing pain to your children?
Like most of the uneducated americans, you dont want to improve yourself. You want to prove that others are as bad as you. Also, most of americans when searching for porn, search for incest daughter porn or hentai. I am not saying you do this, I didnt look at your browsing history. But here you are, trying to justify these things. One must wonder...whats in it for you?
RM
Are you honestly trying to justify american sadism towards children by using asian sadism towards children? There doesnt seem to be any logic there. Since you are trying to justify it, I wonder if you engage in such sadism yourself. Are you one of those americans who have daughter kink?
Please dont think that the red flag in Cons profile pic is a symbol of socialism. Its not. Socialists dont stand for these trans people. Every Socialist country banned them and practiced only what was proven to be normal and not a waste of resources.
I dont understand why would someone want to spank a child. Is the person turned on by it? Is it one of those american incest fetishes? America is a weird country.
1) 1) and 2): Your sites offered no proof. My sites, used in debates, offer actual videos.
2) Do you know what proof is? Apparently, you dont. Posting random sites that repeat your claim is not proof. Thats circular reasoning.
3) Site that makes claims without offering proof is not a credible site.
4) "So you would rather trust the North Korean government over actual eyewitnesses?" You mean paid eyewitnesses? Also, I offered evidence in the debate. North Koreans saying their country is the best and that they are fully satisfied.
5) "So, you basically have willfully refused to talk about the evidence...", "you likely can't disagree with the evidence"
You offered no evidence. Try again.
6) "The website you listed doesn't cite where its data came from," "so it fails the burden of proof"
Google the definition of proof. It will help you in life.
"From 1960 to 2021 the population of South Korea increased from 25.01 m to 51.74 m people. This is a growth by 106.9 percent in 61 years. The highest increase in South Korea was recorded in 1961 with 3.01%"
"From 1960 to 2021 the population of North Korea increased from 11.42 m to 25.89 m people. This is a growth by 126.6 percent in 61 years. The highest increase in North Korea was recorded in 1969 with 2.94%. The smallest increase in 2021 with 0.42%."
So your first source is US site.
Your second source is some random site with no credibility.
Your third source are defectors stories.
Your first source offers no proof. No video, no clear pictures, nothing.
Your second source has no proof either.
So the only thing left is defectors stories.
Are stories proof? Those defectors get paid by South Korea. If I got paid to tell bad things about my country, I would do it.
So the only "proof" you have are stories?
What proof do I have? I posted bunch of links in the debate itself.
You are probably an american, so statistics are your mortal enemy.
For example, North Korean population grew by faster percentage than South Korean population.
This would be impossible if there were actually millions dying from starvation.
From these statistics, one could conclude that South Korea is the one experiencing famine.
"Do you also honestly believe the North Korean government doesn't engage in sex trafficking?"
I see. That is a very good argument. Whats the source? Twitter?
Some people burn their Qurans because they think Allah is the general wrongdoer.
Most of them are not really free, and they use internet, and you only get like 10 free messages. After that, you have to pay.
Some claim to use GPT 3.
I am talking about Al today. Not Al in 30 years.
Al of today sucks at debates.
I downloaded plenty of Al apps to check their intelligence.
Only 1 was actually capable of having a debate that somewhat made sense.
Others were so bad that I couldnt believe it.
Some even use lies to the point where I felt scared. For example: an Al told me that abortion wont kill the child. It will kill the fetus. The child will still be born.
Most of them repeat the refuted points over and over not understanding that they were refuted.
Al cant win in a debate vs. human.
Al often gives contradictive responses, forgets topic, changes topic, starts debating completely different topic, misunderstands the point of argument...ect.
Debate isnt chess. Al programs are horrible at debates except when they get lots of human help and when humans only give them basic simple information.
If Novice starts making too complicated premises, Al wont even understand that they are related to the topic and will even agree with them!
I agree.
I was never much of a comedian, but okay.
Last online: 3 days ago.
You better make a new topic. There is a 99% chance that your opponent wont even respond.
What should a person believe then? Who should we trust?
Because it says so in the Bible, and Bible is true, and people must accept this as a fact. There is no why. You must accept it.
I think the little atheist is sad today.
Thats too bad. I could have destroyed the opponent, whoever she is.
I would accept, but I cant. My rating is not yet above 1500.
I never considered Barney as a debater. He is more like an old man telling war stories. His profile agrees with this.
If someone wants to preserve his Quran, best way to do that is to piss on it every day. It also improves the smell.
Quran is best preserved in piss.
Just remind me to block you again after the debate is done.
Its done
The parents sometimes make bad decisions and the child pays the price.
Bad decisions of parents are very hard to prevent since parents usually assume they are right simply because they are parents.
I didnt base my vote on any policies except my own policy.
I consider my vote logical because only I can decide what is logical. Therefore, whatever I label as logical is logical. I agree with this, so this too is logical.
Reading books is harmful.
I hate to admit it, but the South Korean song "There is fatherland" is actually very good.
Almost like Battotai march.
Yes, they can. So what?
The word "should" is ugly. So no.
Think of it as a defense of human rights. In the same way children need to be defended from circumcision, they need to be defended from other forms of violations sponsored by imperialism.
Actually, thats the wrong question. As soon as you give yourself the right to meddle in other peoples
private lives, you pretty much open the box of utilitarianism. The reason why you meddle becomes the general reason for meddling. For example, if you meddle to prevent harm, that means I can meddle in your life to prevent whatever harm I can think of. This goes from forbidding you to watch porn, to actually forcing you to masturbate every day to increase your life span. Meddling was invented by imperialism to negate the personal choice and force onto others "the greater good". The examples of this "greater good" can be found all over the world. From forced circumcisions, to mother killing her children so that they could "be in heaven and live a better life than this Earthly life". Meddling becomes linked to "greater good". "Greater good" or whatever the person considers as "greater good" becomes reason for meddling. Hitler, Bush, Obama...ect. all of them used the greater good as an excuse to kill millions. The fact that utilitarianism has been misused by billions of people just goes to show how easy it is to misuse it.
My desires were created by someone. I was created by someone. Does that mean desires dont belong to me and that they should be violated? Under those same conditions, one can violate any law and any human right.
However, there are certain facts in life:
1) I exist
2) I think
3) I feel
4) I observe
From these 4 facts, one further learns:
5) Unrealized desires hurt if there are too many of them
From these facts, I learn that I must work according to my desires to avoid pain. It doesnt matter if my desires are not self made. I cant allow them to be violated. Hence, the need for independence.
Then one learns that desires have borders, since so many people have desires. Within your borders, you are allowed to do whatever you want. Within mine, you are not allowed to do what I dont want.
Since one owns his body, he has a right to destroy it. Or else he doesnt own it.
If I were you, I wouldnt burden myself with proof. Its not up to science to prove that spanking doesnt work. It is up to spankers to prove that spanking does work. Billions of children were spanked. The fact that spankers cant find one example of spanking actually benefiting the child is enough to make their entire case invalid.
The USA is ruled by fear, yes.
"Popular masses are the masters of everything in our society. Everything serves them and they have all the power. Our Socialism centred on masses shall not perish."
"Today the imperialists and reactionaries are working viciously to wipe out our socialism, but our socialism continues to advance boldly along the path it has taken, without being swayed in the least by the enemy's dastardly attacks and slander. ... The secret of its durability and indestructibility is that it is centred upon the masses, that it has made the masses the genuine masters of society and that it has devoted everything to the service of the masses."
- Kim Jong Il
RM
Are you saying spanking is not sadistic? Lets see the definitions.
Sadism is basically when someone gains sexual pleasure from pain or humiliation of others.
Americans enjoy humiliating their children so much that they even spank them in public, and in online videos and in front of other children and in schools.
Americans obviously gain pleasure from childs pain.
But is the pleasure sexual? I would say it probably is. It is derived from violence, and it has been proven that violence and sadism are linked.
Do you gain pleasure from causing pain to your children?
Like most of the uneducated americans, you dont want to improve yourself. You want to prove that others are as bad as you. Also, most of americans when searching for porn, search for incest daughter porn or hentai. I am not saying you do this, I didnt look at your browsing history. But here you are, trying to justify these things. One must wonder...whats in it for you?
RM
Are you honestly trying to justify american sadism towards children by using asian sadism towards children? There doesnt seem to be any logic there. Since you are trying to justify it, I wonder if you engage in such sadism yourself. Are you one of those americans who have daughter kink?
Please dont think that the red flag in Cons profile pic is a symbol of socialism. Its not. Socialists dont stand for these trans people. Every Socialist country banned them and practiced only what was proven to be normal and not a waste of resources.
I dont understand why would someone want to spank a child. Is the person turned on by it? Is it one of those american incest fetishes? America is a weird country.
Most americans have no education or knowledge needed to build a prosperous nation. I recommend they read "On the principle of Juche" by Kim Jong Il.
I was raised by capitalist muslims. I blame them.
If you think thats North Korean porn, you literally have no brain. So you are the same as most americans in that sense.
North Korea doesnt even produce regular porn. I tried searching for North Korean porn. No results. Very impressive.
Yeah, he seems angry. Probably his wife cheating on him.
I cant spend time educating you. You dont even know the basics of proof and you refuse to learn.
1) 1) and 2): Your sites offered no proof. My sites, used in debates, offer actual videos.
2) Do you know what proof is? Apparently, you dont. Posting random sites that repeat your claim is not proof. Thats circular reasoning.
3) Site that makes claims without offering proof is not a credible site.
4) "So you would rather trust the North Korean government over actual eyewitnesses?" You mean paid eyewitnesses? Also, I offered evidence in the debate. North Koreans saying their country is the best and that they are fully satisfied.
5) "So, you basically have willfully refused to talk about the evidence...", "you likely can't disagree with the evidence"
You offered no evidence. Try again.
6) "The website you listed doesn't cite where its data came from," "so it fails the burden of proof"
Google the definition of proof. It will help you in life.
Its not related to the debate. It was a response to comments.
Also recommeded to read:
"Socialism is a science" by Kim Jong Il
You can quickly find it on google
Related articles:
https://koryogroup.com/blog/songun-songun-north-korea
http://www.ryongnamsan.edu.kp/univ/en/research/articles/8ed36a8485e30937b99c0d247e9c3832
This explains why Songun Juche military Socialism is the best.
Juche idea is based upon that every country has a right to independence, that Socialism where masses are the masters cannot fail.
https://archive.org/details/jucheidea/page/n1/mode/2up
On the Juche idea
Read this, quickly, before its too late.
Thats normal in capitalism.
https://www.worlddata.info/asia/north-korea/populationgrowth.php
https://www.worlddata.info/asia/south-korea/populationgrowth.php
"From 1960 to 2021 the population of South Korea increased from 25.01 m to 51.74 m people. This is a growth by 106.9 percent in 61 years. The highest increase in South Korea was recorded in 1961 with 3.01%"
"From 1960 to 2021 the population of North Korea increased from 11.42 m to 25.89 m people. This is a growth by 126.6 percent in 61 years. The highest increase in North Korea was recorded in 1969 with 2.94%. The smallest increase in 2021 with 0.42%."
So your first source is US site.
Your second source is some random site with no credibility.
Your third source are defectors stories.
Your first source offers no proof. No video, no clear pictures, nothing.
Your second source has no proof either.
So the only thing left is defectors stories.
Are stories proof? Those defectors get paid by South Korea. If I got paid to tell bad things about my country, I would do it.
So the only "proof" you have are stories?
What proof do I have? I posted bunch of links in the debate itself.
You are probably an american, so statistics are your mortal enemy.
For example, North Korean population grew by faster percentage than South Korean population.
This would be impossible if there were actually millions dying from starvation.
From these statistics, one could conclude that South Korea is the one experiencing famine.
There is this thing called proof. Look it up.
"Do you also honestly believe the North Korean government doesn't engage in sex trafficking?"
I see. That is a very good argument. Whats the source? Twitter?