This isnt about cancer. But just like miscarriage, having cancer should be illegal and people who get cancer should be punished. Again, nothing to do with miscarriages.
Cancers should be illegal. However, this debate is about miscarriages and abortions and if they should be punished or not. My position is yes, they should be punished. Baby died and someone has to answer for that.
Glory to our eternal leaders Kim il Sung, Kim Jong il and Kim Jong Un, and all the leaders from Kim family that are leading Korea on the path of victorious military Socialism.
https://youtu.be/I3HsZABvP2Y
"The media of the world gave wide publicity to the news that in a computer simulation of the US department of defense North Korea won and the United States lost. They added that leader Kim Jong Il is the most famous of the famous commanders. Kim Jong Il burns the White House with the fire of guerrillas rekindled on Mount Paektu. Kim Jong Il is a champion of global peace leading the world politics with surreal ability in weapons."
It is expected that voters will vote for you, which will make you great and definitely more attractive to women. Plus, you have a greater chance of going to heaven if you win this debate. So things are looking good for you.
"If people are not willing to accept your authoritarian system to fight off Islam by virtue of it being authoritarian, they wouldn't accept Islam either for being supposedly authoritarian"
Thats not a contradiction. First, you are assuming that my system = islam, and that the only variable for acceptance is authoritarianism.
It seems that I will have to feed you the facts because your muslim brain wont comprehend how it works.
1) There is a non-authoritarian society.
2) Muslims multiply and become majority.
3) Muslims take over and introduce authoritarian society.
There is no choice here involved for non-muslims who oppose to authoritarian regimes, since they become minority.
They cant reject or accept.
The very fact that they were opposed to all authoritarian regimes is what allowed muslims to multiply and preach their authoritarianism.
Non-authoritarian regimes literally cant reject islam without themselves becoming a different form of authoritarianism.
Your muslim brain doesnt want to comprehend this.
Muslims multiply through high birth rates, and through lies to make people convert. People who convert to islam start justifying authoritarianism.
So the ratio of non-authoritarians and authoritarians slowly changes.
Muslims preach authoritarianism and convert many to it.
When still minority, muslims pretend to be in favor of religious freedom.
This tricks many, and many become muslims.
When majority, muslims start justifying authoritarianism to their members.
First, you assumed that an average person can recognize authoritarianism every time, or not be seduced by islam into accepting authoritarianism.
I clearly said that my system is authoritarian and people didnt want to accept it because they believe in allowing religion to exist. My system does not have the charms of islam.
They fail to recognize that islamic religion is authoritarian.
So when muslims become a majority, they will abolish non-authoritarian society and establish muslim authoritarianism.
Free speech will not be tolerated. We will not be able to say that allah is a pig without going to prison or worse. Muslims will bully atheists all the time.
Your freedom to believe in allah will be tolerated. My freedom to believe that allah is a pig and that muhammad was a homosexual and that quran is written by satan - these will not be tolerated.
Muslims have done this in every country they took over.
Freedom of religion is a delusion. Atheists will lose unless they realise it.
Contrary to the popular belief, I am not here to debate anyone.
You are a muslim. You think that islam is right. That is a sad story, but not something I can change. Islam spreads throughout the world. It will take over most of the world.
I did propose introducing a North Korean system to help fight off islam, but sadly the world prefers islam and that is what the world is going to get.
We already have enough problems with Christians thinking their God exists.
Theoretically, we could let muslims and christians fight over who is more right.
But that doesnt benefit atheists like me. Whoever wins at that fight will ultimately come out more powerful, and atheism will be further surpressed.
Naturally, atheists like to make fun of theism. But the fact is that theists keep producing new arguments for existence of God.
I even heard one muslim say that even if islam is proven false, it is still good because it benefits society.
So yes, we atheists face a lot of problems due to massive number of theists compared to atheists.
Unlike atheism, theism is a world view with set goals for society.
This is why atheism is at a disadvantage. It is not just that its impossible to prove that God doesnt exist. Its very hard to prove that religion is not beneficial for society. Theists play the game "I assume, you must disprove". Such game gives them advantage.
North Korea managed to surpress religion, which is a great thing for everyone. Still, there are some religious people in North Korea.
I guess religion is a disease that cannot be simply removed.
Science is good at destroying nature. To paint itself as good or useful is a horrible misrepresentation.
Useful for who? Not for trees. Not for tigers. Not for bees. Not for clean air. Not for grass. Not for ants. Science only harmed these things. So, for who?
Only for humans? Well, even that is questionable. The amount of humans who die in car accidents alone outweights the entire population of early tribes.
If the point is for there to be less harm or less pain in the world, the point is not being met.
Even if we disregard all the animals getting slaughtered so that all the humans could live, we are still left with all the humans who die and suffer.
Science allowed for multiplication of life, which had horrible consequences.
Depression, slavery, mass cases of rape, prisons, murders, accidents, religion, junk food, wars, violence, torture, suicides and so on are all the results of human beings being able to think more than they should. Being able to science!
This "knowledge" that humans obtained was more of a curse than blessing.
Science, gathering of knowledge, is ultimately the worst thing that happened to this planet.
But many people think its the best thing ever.
It may be best for them. There are different interests involved, and some people benefit from science as means to reach their goals.
"Are you referring to animal testing? Or by abuse do you mean "defying the natural order" such as flying and vaccines?"
Science turned the Earth into a junkyard. Literally all plastic bottles and pollution are a result of scientific progress.
Scientific progress created weapons that enabled large scale wars.
The original humans who had no science - they took from nature only a little.
The modern humans take a lot. They have cut down so many forests. They have made factories of death where animals are mass bred for slaughter on a scale never seen before.
"And do you believe that the end result of all science is "wicked"? Even eradicating smallpox?"
There are parts of science that sound good. Sadly, its hard to get the good and not the bad.
I firmly believe that vaccines were another bad move of humanity, that caused massive increase in population.
The resources are limited, and the fact that humanity grows both in number and in needs means that humanity will take even more from nature.
They have already destroyed a lot of nature, but also they destroyed the previous humans and their behavior.
Original humans who had no science, who didnt brush their teeth, who didnt work in a factory, who didnt go to school, who built their homes in forests and lived in a small commune - such nature-loving humans are gone.
Only to be replaced by a greed-driven vampiric consumption that caused anyone not engaged in it to suffer.
We abuse the nature and fill it with filth, and we justify that.
The experiment that we are doing - how much can we abuse the nature - is on levels unimaginable to any other species. It is unimaginable for them, as they have no knowledge(science).
System without currency would be effective. Without trade, economy would be better managed and resources better used. And yes, there would be little to no debt.
Are you old?
Dont worry too much Con. You will grow old and die alone.
No sleeping during the debate!!!
Zzzzzzzzzzz
This isnt about cancer. But just like miscarriage, having cancer should be illegal and people who get cancer should be punished. Again, nothing to do with miscarriages.
Cancers should be illegal. However, this debate is about miscarriages and abortions and if they should be punished or not. My position is yes, they should be punished. Baby died and someone has to answer for that.
Why the fuck would I forfeit?
"If Con thinks that unwanted penetration of body is fine, one must wonder what kind of a person Con is."
My best line so far.
There seems to be a lot of activity in this segment.
Its obvious that RationalMadman wins with or without removal of those votes.
Still, removal of unfit votes is necessary to serve as an example of how to vote and how not to vote.
There are two genders: man and non-man
Glory to our eternal leaders Kim il Sung, Kim Jong il and Kim Jong Un, and all the leaders from Kim family that are leading Korea on the path of victorious military Socialism.
https://youtu.be/I3HsZABvP2Y
"The media of the world gave wide publicity to the news that in a computer simulation of the US department of defense North Korea won and the United States lost. They added that leader Kim Jong Il is the most famous of the famous commanders. Kim Jong Il burns the White House with the fire of guerrillas rekindled on Mount Paektu. Kim Jong Il is a champion of global peace leading the world politics with surreal ability in weapons."
I agree. Kim Jong Un is good and will rule eternally over Korea.
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Yes, thats about 20 words per round lol
Calm down, tahaishot. I am waiting for islam to refute my arguments.
Well fuck, its too long. I think I wont even read your argument.
You are confident, which is good. The world belongs to the confident. The confident always win when crossing the street.
It is expected that voters will vote for you, which will make you great and definitely more attractive to women. Plus, you have a greater chance of going to heaven if you win this debate. So things are looking good for you.
Any gay who wants to accept?
This debate will last for at least two months. But yes, it will be easy for me.
Its bad to annoy people. They can die from it. I really care about them more than I care about myself.
Yes, I should care a lot about winning debates. It will make me a millionare and increase my virtual penis.
As long as I am right, I dont care who wins the debate.
Most important thing is not to win a debate, but to make islam look bad.
Globalism is just a different word for imperialism.
My bet is that this has nothing to do with Ukraine.
Not just death. Also eternal torture in hell.
Fucking better have
Its a satisfying ending.
If you dont want to debate this topic, say what topic about islam you want to debate.
I am open to debating:
"Quran produces violence"
"Quran causes muslims to hate atheists"
"God of Quran is evil"
"Islam is a religion of hate"
Any of these work for me.
"Islam does not encourage authoritarianism"
With me being placed as Con.
With authoritarianism being defined as "blind obedience to authority".
Okay, make a debate or challenge me.
The topic I want to debate is about authoritarianism of islam.
Make the argument time 2 weeks.
"If people are not willing to accept your authoritarian system to fight off Islam by virtue of it being authoritarian, they wouldn't accept Islam either for being supposedly authoritarian"
Thats not a contradiction. First, you are assuming that my system = islam, and that the only variable for acceptance is authoritarianism.
It seems that I will have to feed you the facts because your muslim brain wont comprehend how it works.
1) There is a non-authoritarian society.
2) Muslims multiply and become majority.
3) Muslims take over and introduce authoritarian society.
There is no choice here involved for non-muslims who oppose to authoritarian regimes, since they become minority.
They cant reject or accept.
The very fact that they were opposed to all authoritarian regimes is what allowed muslims to multiply and preach their authoritarianism.
Non-authoritarian regimes literally cant reject islam without themselves becoming a different form of authoritarianism.
Your muslim brain doesnt want to comprehend this.
Muslims multiply through high birth rates, and through lies to make people convert. People who convert to islam start justifying authoritarianism.
So the ratio of non-authoritarians and authoritarians slowly changes.
Muslims preach authoritarianism and convert many to it.
When still minority, muslims pretend to be in favor of religious freedom.
This tricks many, and many become muslims.
When majority, muslims start justifying authoritarianism to their members.
First, you assumed that an average person can recognize authoritarianism every time, or not be seduced by islam into accepting authoritarianism.
I clearly said that my system is authoritarian and people didnt want to accept it because they believe in allowing religion to exist. My system does not have the charms of islam.
They fail to recognize that islamic religion is authoritarian.
So when muslims become a majority, they will abolish non-authoritarian society and establish muslim authoritarianism.
Free speech will not be tolerated. We will not be able to say that allah is a pig without going to prison or worse. Muslims will bully atheists all the time.
Your freedom to believe in allah will be tolerated. My freedom to believe that allah is a pig and that muhammad was a homosexual and that quran is written by satan - these will not be tolerated.
Muslims have done this in every country they took over.
Freedom of religion is a delusion. Atheists will lose unless they realise it.
I am not confident in it at all. It has nothing that can attract people.
People are not ready to introduce authoritarian system to fight off islam.
Islam will take over and introduce its own authoritarian system on them.
It sucks that people only realize it when its too late.
Contrary to the popular belief, I am not here to debate anyone.
You are a muslim. You think that islam is right. That is a sad story, but not something I can change. Islam spreads throughout the world. It will take over most of the world.
I did propose introducing a North Korean system to help fight off islam, but sadly the world prefers islam and that is what the world is going to get.
Plenty of good news for muslims.
Plenty of bad news for atheists.
Its too bad the opponent forfeited.
Now someone might think that Quran is right.
We already have enough problems with Christians thinking their God exists.
Theoretically, we could let muslims and christians fight over who is more right.
But that doesnt benefit atheists like me. Whoever wins at that fight will ultimately come out more powerful, and atheism will be further surpressed.
Naturally, atheists like to make fun of theism. But the fact is that theists keep producing new arguments for existence of God.
I even heard one muslim say that even if islam is proven false, it is still good because it benefits society.
So yes, we atheists face a lot of problems due to massive number of theists compared to atheists.
Unlike atheism, theism is a world view with set goals for society.
This is why atheism is at a disadvantage. It is not just that its impossible to prove that God doesnt exist. Its very hard to prove that religion is not beneficial for society. Theists play the game "I assume, you must disprove". Such game gives them advantage.
North Korea managed to surpress religion, which is a great thing for everyone. Still, there are some religious people in North Korea.
I guess religion is a disease that cannot be simply removed.
https://youtu.be/HAKpCt5PLy0
Science is good at destroying nature. To paint itself as good or useful is a horrible misrepresentation.
Useful for who? Not for trees. Not for tigers. Not for bees. Not for clean air. Not for grass. Not for ants. Science only harmed these things. So, for who?
Only for humans? Well, even that is questionable. The amount of humans who die in car accidents alone outweights the entire population of early tribes.
If the point is for there to be less harm or less pain in the world, the point is not being met.
Even if we disregard all the animals getting slaughtered so that all the humans could live, we are still left with all the humans who die and suffer.
Science allowed for multiplication of life, which had horrible consequences.
Depression, slavery, mass cases of rape, prisons, murders, accidents, religion, junk food, wars, violence, torture, suicides and so on are all the results of human beings being able to think more than they should. Being able to science!
This "knowledge" that humans obtained was more of a curse than blessing.
Science, gathering of knowledge, is ultimately the worst thing that happened to this planet.
But many people think its the best thing ever.
It may be best for them. There are different interests involved, and some people benefit from science as means to reach their goals.
Long story short: knowledge can be used for bad things.
"Are you referring to animal testing? Or by abuse do you mean "defying the natural order" such as flying and vaccines?"
Science turned the Earth into a junkyard. Literally all plastic bottles and pollution are a result of scientific progress.
Scientific progress created weapons that enabled large scale wars.
The original humans who had no science - they took from nature only a little.
The modern humans take a lot. They have cut down so many forests. They have made factories of death where animals are mass bred for slaughter on a scale never seen before.
"And do you believe that the end result of all science is "wicked"? Even eradicating smallpox?"
There are parts of science that sound good. Sadly, its hard to get the good and not the bad.
I firmly believe that vaccines were another bad move of humanity, that caused massive increase in population.
The resources are limited, and the fact that humanity grows both in number and in needs means that humanity will take even more from nature.
They have already destroyed a lot of nature, but also they destroyed the previous humans and their behavior.
Original humans who had no science, who didnt brush their teeth, who didnt work in a factory, who didnt go to school, who built their homes in forests and lived in a small commune - such nature-loving humans are gone.
Only to be replaced by a greed-driven vampiric consumption that caused anyone not engaged in it to suffer.
We abuse the nature and fill it with filth, and we justify that.
The experiment that we are doing - how much can we abuse the nature - is on levels unimaginable to any other species. It is unimaginable for them, as they have no knowledge(science).
"Course you are smarter than chess."
Point proven.
I disagree. I am smarter than chess.
Chess? I cant play chess. Its a stupid game. I never win.
This was my attempt to mock and troll, but sadly the opponent didnt even respond and mods warned me about this kind of topics, so its a no no anymore.
Well, they cant possibly be dumber than average american.
So there is no harm.
There, I have unblocked you so that you can accept and be defeated.
System without currency would be effective. Without trade, economy would be better managed and resources better used. And yes, there would be little to no debt.
I would say that science is more accurate today than it was 100 years ago.
I would still label it as witchcraft, since the abuse of nature for wicked things is intolerable.
Thank you for voting.
If science says that snakes cant talk, then science is wrong. Simple.
Science has been proven wrong many times.
Dinosaurs didnt exist.
I would vote against islam, but my voting rights were taken away due to me voting against animal slavery.