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I just hope Wylted is actually scum, because it seems either he is lynched either I am, but from what I see, he got lynched first.
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@AustinL0926
Well, I am not sure if you should motivate me, since I die by scum.
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@Bullish
I want to lynch BK but also I kind of don't, because if he actually turns out to be doc we're gonna look like a bunch of clowns.
Well stated.
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I am not changing my vote.
If you guys want to lynch Joe, you have enough votes to do so without me.
There are 5 town players, so even without me, you still have at least 4 necessary town votes.
But if Joe turns town, then at least one of 4 votes on him would be scum for sure.
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There is still 20 hours left, lets hear from others so we are aware of their current opinions, so we see what lynch can go through,
even tho I seriously doubt joe is anything close to scum, just new player who makes same mistakes as all new players do.
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@WyIted
Well, lets go through options, so that we all make informed decision and are aware of outcome.
I am doctor, so most likely town.
Lynch me, and the outcome is:
3 - 2
in dp3, where town will no longer be able to afford a mislynch.
If you dont lynch me, but some other town player, same outcome of 3 - 2.
If you lynch scum, then 3 - 1.
The only way town has any good chance of winning this game is if we make proper lynch this dp.
I am not the proper lynch and you know it.
You said you have enough votes to vote Joe or me, so why are you asking my vote?
You dont need it, you said so yourself.
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@WyIted
Well, if you want to go with the least likely theory of me being scum doing some advanced strategy and faking doctor, go for it.
Its a false theory.
The more simple explanation is that I am indeed doctor, so town.
If you want me to die to prove my role, fine.
I dont mind even being lynched to prove you wrong, but it does harm town to waste lynch on town player.
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Scum always kills doctor. You know it, because dooctor can confirm who is town by denying kill.
But sure, if you want to lynch me, go ahead. To me, it makes little difference as I wont be getting to dp3 regardless.
To town, it might make a serious difference tho.
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@WyIted
Even if BK is town if he makes it to lylo town loses
I am a doctor, so I die before dp3 regardless if you lynch me or not.
We can have this show, you can go after me to lynch me, but then after that it puts you at 3 - 2 and you wont have a clue who scum is, so town almost certainly loses in dp3.
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@TheUnderdog
Kids should be taught.
I agree except not with force.
Besides, I am opposed to the idea of people giving birth to kids, but if they do give birth to them, they shouldnt cause them any more pain.
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Two very active users who are also very interesting and are famous for making points outside of the usual comfort zone and displaying great knowledge. They also have a great sense of humor.
Debates:
All Drugs Should Be Legalized
This is one of those debates which changes your mind when you read it, because not only does it hold extreme position, but the position is argued so well on both sides, and the debate leaves you wondering if banning drugs is useful or harmful, although it changed my mind that maybe total ban doesnt work.
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@TheUnderdog
Not as stupid as a society where kids are free to not go to school.
Well, agree to disagree.
Or you can change your mind when someone makes a good point.
I can, and maybe I even will.
Starvation is better to you than slightly painful school? I don't see how anyone smart can agree with that.
Thats not what I said tho.
I think causing pain by forcing children to go to school is worse than not doing anything, even if not doing results in some starvation. Its still not you who causes the starvation.
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@sadolite
You've obviously never herd the phrase "The best of intentions"
Its usually used to justify one's self when doing bad.
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You can not cause pain while not preventing any pain either.
Let me say it in a different way.
You can "not cause pain" while "not preventing any pain".
Yeah, that sounds correct.
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@TheUnderdog
our society would be stupid down the road
Our society is stupid.
The pain of the education system trained the minds who built the computer you use. I'm pretty sure you would want those people to endure painful education.
It doesnt matter what I want. Maybe I am just a bad person and the moral system is good.
so would they as they would be starving since they would have no useful skills).
Well, it would still be a better world.
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After reading few pages of Ayn Rand, I am certain now that I shouldnt be a consequentialist.
Now, I wouldnt say I am very certain, but here is what I think.
People have life, freedom, pain, happiness..
It shouldnt be violated to uphold someone else's rights.
If person has right to live, by logic you cannot kill him even if it saves 5 people.
If person has right to painless life, you cannot cause him pain even if causing him pain prevents pain of millions of other people.
Now, of course, there are exceptions, but it does sound like a fine rule to go for to achieve it in greatest possible level.
Now, there is a difference between not causing pain and preventing pain, as causing pain requires you to exist to cause it, so not causing pain just means not to add to pain, where preventing pain means to act to prevent it.
So this moral system is based on lack of action like "dont cause pain". Its not based on preventing pain like "act to prevent pain".
You can not cause pain while not preventing any pain either.
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@TheUnderdog
since school causes pain to students, that we should ban school.
I can agree with that, but not with ban.
I do think its wrong to force children to school.
Anyone who wants knowledge should seek knowledge.
We shouldnt force people to absorb knowledge, because thats how they are not gonna absorb much of it.
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@Greyparrot
@AustinL0926
@JoeBob
Just lynch Wylted please.
We have enough votes with the four of us.
We dont need pie or bullish.
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@Mall
I dont mind living unhealthy.
I was just mocking smokers for assaulting people who actually wanna live healthy.
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@ILikePie5
Town majority led by pie on a witch hunt.
Yeah, I wonder how that goes.
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@ILikePie5
Looks like 5 people scumread you now. Ain’t that nice.
Guess who they gonna scum read when I am exposed as town?
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@ILikePie5
My top two scumreads are JoeBob and Best Korea
Aint that nice.
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@Greyparrot
I have no problem with lynching pie first either.
Really, no matter which of the 3 I listed, I will vote this dp if they can be voted.
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@ILikePie5
I’m trying to lynch scum.
And who is scum, according to you?
List 2 people that are scum.
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@ILikePie5
I suggest you try live I’ve said a million times and reiterate your case for why Wylted is scum.
I already presented plenty of evidence.
You ignored it, and I dont like to repeat.
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@ILikePie5
Prove it is false. Saying it’s false doesn’t make it false lol.
Thats false too. I dont need to disprove every false claim you make, nor you saying something makes it true.
Now, I see that you are still trying to move focus away from Wylted to me or joe.
We will just let other voters decide, but I think you are well aware that you lost this game, irrelevant of if I get lynched or not.
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@ILikePie5
So JoeBob is on your list. Great. Let’s lynch him.
You go from pushing people to lynch me to pushing me to lynch people.
You are scum, but I plan to save you for later.
Wylted first.
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@ILikePie5
Everything you said is false.
Now be a good town and lynch Wylted instead of desperately trying to lynch doctor.
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@baggins
Its just my opinion, but satanism has greatly improved my life.
Have you tried praying to Dragon?
I can give you a prayer, so just memorize it like I have, and you can pray to satan anywhere, even in church.
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@FishChaser
Yeah.
On 9anime.
Just google:
"world conquest zvezda plot episode 1 9anime"
There are plenty of ads appearing on the site tho, so just close them and play anime in full screen.
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@Mall
Has nothing to do with finding a woman.
So I dont need to find a woman.
I can live alone and die alone like its supposed to be.
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@baggins
Not all atheists are satanists.
I know, but they should try to be.
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@Tradesecret
Does this mean you want to be friends?
Sure.
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@Tradesecret
I dont "forgive you because you deserve forgiveness", but it seems that you have gone insane and I dont want to trigger you to do something bad.
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@Tradesecret
Okay, I forgive you.
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@Tradesecret
I have never purported to Except in the sardonically situation where I intended to make Harishkrish, now known as Best Korea stop with the needless attacks on another former member (banished for good reason by this site). I was attacking, and probably in a very bad way, his stupidity and reckless words. And I did so in a way I have regretted.
Too bad I dont take other people's regret into account.
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@Tradesecret
yes, I am a lawyer. I also teach at universities. I am or rather was a chaplain. I have two degrees in theology. And have studied the original languages. I used to have a farm. And I do work in charity and have a wonderful life.
Lol
Are you also an astronaut?
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@Tradesecret
Seriously, is this the best you can do? What a weak and little brain you have. I'm not gay. Nor am I bisexual. And yes that's a choice. You have heard of second causes haven't you? No probably not. Otherwise you wouldn't have used such a bird brained example. But maybe you have heard of it and decided to use it anyway. that wouldn't surprise me either. D grade bachelor or whatever you are. Simpleton. God choosing me or any of the elect is a first cause. But hey you should've known that. But you didn't. Fool.
Lol
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@WyIted
Joe's jump on BK seemed opportunistic
Thanks for letting us know that Joe isnt scum.
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@WyIted
Go ahead and give me 3 people
I already did.
Two times.
I guess you just cant handle that you and pie are among the 3.
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@Tradesecret
No, it's not great. It's simply normal.
Lying is normal too, especially in your case where you have to lie to yourself.
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@WyIted
He int my top choice either but you want to be stubborn so if it is a mislynch it is your own fault.
There is no mislynch if we lynch you.
And I dont see how you mislynching Joe would be my fault. Its your action.
Every experienced player in the game town reads me and that is for a reason
Which experienced player are you talking about?
Pie was already wrong 2 times in a row, and I dont think Bullish is exactly reliable.
They know you have me pie and bullish in your scum list so it's pretty easy to predict who you will protect and since there is likely a power role between bullish and pie they don't need to worry about you yet.
They cant predict who will I protect, but if they get it wrong, they not only lose kill, but I confirm another player as town.
Take the risk if you want.
If bullish is town and I was scum I would just take out pie and since your reads are so off I would definitely try to keep you in the game as long as I can predict who you would protect
Bunch of made up claims.
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@WyIted
than joebob and Bullish should be the ones you perceive as caught
I literally listed them, but you and pie are more eager than any of them.
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