Casey_Risk

Typically i stay away from IIOA.

Always better to use info as a supplement off of behavior imo

Survivor is a popular show. I wouldn't claim a show like that. Its my mod given character. You know, because I'm town.

Are you town reading him for not showing up? It’s NAI, and if he doesn’t show up, he should probably be lynched. 

I disagree. He has. He literally self voted before. This is honestly more in line with his town play

Suggesting a path for town to take and then immediately must doing it without getting feedback about the thought really pings me as farming cred. 

Maybe he made up both. God knows what shows are in this game based on this split. I have thoughts based on my character and his does stick out a bit comparatively . But I have not seen others to compare and can validate that thought as the game progresses.

I think Mikal is going after targets he thinks will be easy mislynches and I do not like it. Not one bit.

So, a few things about Earth's claim. It's a really weird one. I've never heard of it before, and it seems extremely limited in its applications. If I understand it correctly, then it only really does anything if Earth is alive at 2v1 LYLO, where it guarantees a town victory as long as Earth himself doesn't get lynched. Okay? That's so incredibly situational, though.

Savant's thoughts also echo mine - why was Earth seemingly so upset about having suspicion on him? Being sussed as a townie means you'll likely survive during the night (as long as there are no town killing roles), which would be good for him. And even if he does get lynched, I wouldn't call it a huge loss for the town.

So that obviously reflects poorly on Earth. But there are a couple other things I noticed. First, he said the role was used somewhat recently. As far as I'm aware, this is not true. I don't remember a role like that EVER being used before as long as I've been playing here, and I've played in every game from BotW onward, except for the previous two (due to being busy) and the ones I've modded. I struggle to see the scum reason for Earth saying "this role was used recently" when it wasn't.

The other redeeming factor: I actually really buy his explanation for why he said that he was thinking about just outing his character earlier. This is significant because Survivor is a really well-known series, so I would have to assume that mafia would be reluctant to soft it. Basically, if Earth is faking his claim, my intuition is that he very likely is using the fake character claim given to him by Luna. But he softed his character (kinda) so early on.

Unvote while I mull this over.

As you mentioned odds are likely rough but the balance is town probably has very strong roles. If it’s 2 v 9, we are in better shape. If it’s 3v8 mafia is the favorite. Not considering tps.

Are you guys okay with forced pressure on 1/3 

Thoughts ?

I struggle with Mharm. He is prob the hardest person to read on the site for me. He tends to play so randomly that he is anti town as town.

This is a reaction test, isn't it?

Look at these reads from when WF was town. They seem pretty equally noncommittal. Tbh, he's usually noncommittal as scum too. But the parts he does have takes on I tend to agree with here.

Moozer does seem to be a bit like me in that are like me. Maybe they are lurking scum, or maybe they struggle to find the motivation to read and post. Austin does not have that luxury. Maybe hes busy, but I think Austin knows he can pop in and say hes busy and hes trying to catch up or whatever.

We lynched Austin before for not being active and he was town. Then he showed up late to another game and was town there to.

I like WF's new posts a lot (also Earth's).

Savant and Casey are hard town for me.

In my experience, Earth tends to be more guarded as town and even catty at times (though probably in good fun). I looked at his old games to confirm this. Look at his first two posts as town in Call of Duty mafia here and here. Meanwhile as scum in Recycled Roles, he gave a compliment early on and was fairly polite.

I did. Sorry back on my phone and running to town for a while. But if you scroll up. I outline it pretty I. Depth. 

Alright. Follow up question, why put inactives on the list and above the very slightly sus? Moozer and Austin haven't even been on yet at all.

Why does everyone seem to misinterpret my jokes? That was clearly tongue in cheek.

How would you solve it? 

Savant had you as null, I was the first one suggesting we pressure you or earth if I recall. 

I want to see yall post before I give my first set of reads. What do you think of the players that have posted so far?

In the past, and as shown in this game, earth hasn’t gone very in-depth and usually gives short responses. That kind of play could come from either town or scum, but it's hard to get a solid read without more active engagement. Mafia can win games by coasting, and while earth has been consistently contributing, he hasn’t taken any hard stances or pushed his own reads. It feels like he’s saying “I’m here,” but not “I’m locked in.”

Your instant reply felt like you were waiting to be mentioned before posting. 

Gut read, is just behavior, responses, and in general just additive things where I trust voting them enough to prioritize it. Something is a little off means you did something sussy but I am not sure its enough to prioritize you. 

Kind of want your instinct on this. Here's my current read on whiteflame:

Gut Reads / Instinct 

Innactives - General Liability 

Something just seems a little wrong. 

Luna said it was fine, if it means anything. I figured he was the neutral source to go to.

As soon as people started calling him/her out, she was immediately responsive. It seemed like within minutes. This typically but not always is a very plausible sign of scum lurking. I would almost say borderline scum slip with how fast the responded. 

1. I usually respond pretty quickly when people actually tag me, as long as I'm not busy doing something else at the moment. You can ask the other players here for confirmation.
   
2. The timing is mostly coincidence. I was fairly busy this morning and early afternoon. I started posting as soon as I was actually able to start participating in the game.

It doesn’t violate anything. It’s meta in live games.

I also have an alternative strategy for claiming shows: everyone does it at once. We all find an online clock, paste our shows in the thread, and at the exact same second (as it strikes 7 oclock EST, for example), we hit enter, submitting our characters to the thread. Scum have no time to look for competing claims to see what's taken.

I think we shouldn’t always lynch DP1 regardless if it’s Even or Odd. It gives us information of character/role/balance + player interactions/motives. These days even No Lynching on MYLO is scary cause Vote Thief’s have become common.

I will remove my vote if anyone else has a new York based gameshow but so far the soft claims feel like California based.

Pressure doesn’t help this game. Scum have  fake character and fake role claim. They’ll just use that

Half the people here are 18 so he's the only possibility nobody here knows bob Barker or pat shack or Orlando Bloom