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@Earth
So I know I might give Pie shit and he might be a try hard, but he's probably at the top of my town list. Its honestly frustrating that most, or at least a plurality of the posts in this game were related to me and it will mostly go to waste when I eventually get lynched and Town goes "lol shit play Earth" and everyone has to comb through and see who was on my wagon, who wasn't.
Arguments like these can be annoying. ONLY YOU CAN PREVENT FORREST FIRES.

Only you can redirect a phase to a more productive option. Frankly complaining that the conversation was stuck between wylted and oro dp1, to now complaining that it is about you doesn't solve the problem. Luckily we are still early in the phase 2, so what do you think is a better push and why? Be the change you want to see in the world!
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@Speedrace
You're assuming that he had a conversation in the first place, maybe he just did his own thing, plenty of scum do
There was a whole night phase for this conversation to have happened. So basically the only way it didn't happen is if both scum are noobs...

Also plenty of people have made "why would his teammates let him do that" kind of decisions, GP is a great example
I don't see GP make a ton of slips like that outside of maybe live maifa where pressure can occur much quicker. But from the games I've modded where he's been scum he usually communicates and asks his scum partner what he should do or claim before claiming. 

The pace of his responses, and the low activity of the game in general allows him plenty of time to make calculated decisions with his partner if he's scum. Also I just don't think earth is that nooby. I've played in at least 5 games with him since he's been back. I can see someone messing up like that in like their first or second game. But apparently earth was playing here before I even made my return to mafia in 2018. As far as getting something mixed up in your PM, I see vets do it all the time. It's infuriating, but there just really isn't much scum motivation there to change the claim if you are actually scum for precisely the reason that is happening now, look how quickly you and disc jumped that wagon thoughtlessly. 
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@ILikePie5
I really don’t like the bandwagon. They both did it last DP as well. I’m willing to pressure Speed for his claim at the very leas
Claims are kind of pointless. I don't see what we will accomplish by getting a fast food restaraunt and then unvoting like that makes all behavioral tells go away lol
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@ILikePie5
@Discipulus_Didicit
@Speedrace
I want you guys to walk me through the scum dialogue here, and present for me a scum team that makes sense with earth if you are going to board this wagon.

What type of conversation happens in the scum PM where Earth's partner tells him to change his claim from bodyguard to bulletproof? Which person on this player list would even encourage that? Poly? Who else? In what world does him admitting to messing up his role from bodyguard to bulletproof make sense?

Also if there is a healer at this point would you not agree that it is viable to just bite the bullet and claim so we can seal the deal with earh? Does the fact that that is not happening make any difference to you? Did you see that wylted said he can help confirm this player? Did you not believe him or is wylted his scum partner?

Come on guys, let's just talk this through and not blindly bandwagon.

I will feel like a fvcking idiot if Earth is scum, but I just  don't feel it. And pie is the only one actually bothering to explain his read. 
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@Wylted
Could be. Maybe he i tuitively knows I will more than likely town read somebody who buddies me. I fall for budding more than anybody. 

Who is earth's scum buddy? 

What is your working theory

The only person buddying works on is Polar. Feed his confirmation bias and you are automatically a town read every time. 
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Watch this be speed's only contribution for the day again. 
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Moving disc a notch lower towards my scum reads for that vote...
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@ILikePie5
If Earth is down he needs to step up his game. This is the second time shit like this has happened. Fuckin read your PM and see what your role does
God damn pie relax man. I've seen way worse fuck ups from town. 
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@ILikePie5
Yes, Pie, I intentionally drew a wagon on myself and claim bodyguard only to backtrack and claim Bulletproof instead. This was my greatest gambit and you, and only you figured it out.
This is WIFOM
Everything is WIFOM technically. But yeah it makes no sense for him to do that lol. 
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@ILikePie5
So the argument here is that he is "changing his claim" while he already knows he is scum read as a way to alleviate suspicion? Pie let's be real here, Mafia members wouldn't do this. At this point they would just stick with bodyguard as a fake claim. Unless you could make the argument both scum are noobs and maybe they thought this would save them, or maybe Earth is third party, I don't see him back tracking his claim for no reason like this...
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Francis Ngannou VS Ciryl Gane: Who wins?
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@Sum1hugme
True. It will be an crazy fight I think. I hope its not a 1 round knockout though lol. I think both these guys can last longer rounds. 
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@Sum1hugme
Like I said, it was in 2018. Ngannou couldn't even wrestle then. That was the same year stipe wrestled him into an overwhelming loss. But in March of this year, ngannou stuffed the NCAA division 1 wrestler Stipe and ko'd him in the second round.
RIght, I know he's improved but I am just saying judging they Gane won't win because Derrick is a chump or whatever is kind of flawed since Derrick beat him. And 3 years really isn't that long in MMA, considering fools like Aldo, the Diaz brothers, Herman, and many many others are still looking good 10+ years in. 
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Fast Food Mafia DP2
nevermind I get whiteflame and wylted mixed up because both their names start with a "W" and their pictures have similar color contrast. Whiteflame voted speed a couple times yesterday.
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@Wylted
Opposite really, which is kind of relational. I don't remember any direct communication or dialogue or FOS'es between the two last day phase.
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@Wylted
Thoughts on oro's being killed? TBH I feel like scum were trying to set you up lol. Don't worry, I don't think as scum you'd be dumb enough to kill oro like that. But speed seems like a devil crafty enough to do that...
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I am most suspicious of a Speedrace Whiteflame dynamic here. I'd like a bit more activity from speed, but he has a tendency to play more casually and conservatively as scum, where it doesn't seem like he comes up with the direction to pursue. He did it in your political themed game a while back, The Stand, The Office, and a couple others. I have to discern whether he is just completely inactive genuinely or if he is playing the lurking game a bit. 

Whiteflame just rubs me the wrong way for the wylted wagon, which very well could have been a reaction test. Also I am generally going to be wary of him after watching him and supa in TUF Villains. 

VTL Speedrace

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@ILikePie5
To be honest here, I am not 100% sold on earth. He's still in my null pile. I don't generally like body guard claims, and generally see them as scum fake claims more often then not. However I feel like if there was another protective role they would have bit the bullet to get him lynched. The only other behavioral thing I don't like about earth was him whining about the wylted/ oromagi thing taking up the whole day phase meanwhile offering no alternative direction for the day phase. But Earth is a newer player and his this feels slightly similar to TUF villains, so I am taking him with a grain of salt here.

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RIP tracker :/
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Francis Ngannou VS Ciryl Gane: Who wins?
btw I think losing a decision to Derrick Lewis is worse than being knocked out by him.. Just sayin'
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Mafia Mod Sign-Up List
Current Mafia:

Supa - Fast Food / Best Animes

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In the Hopper:

Earth - Fire Emblem
Polyglot
Lunatic

On Hold

Virtuoso, RM, Speed, Danielle, Bullish

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Francis Ngannou VS Ciryl Gane: Who wins?
I guess we will see but I wouldn't sleep on Ciryl is all im sayin
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@Sum1hugme
Lewis knocked out Ngannou though lol
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Francis Ngannou VS Ciryl Gane: Who wins?
After that impressive win over Derrick Lewis last night, I think fans are more excited than ever to see these two go at it. How do you see this fight going? It's been almost 3 years since Ngannou has had a fight go past round 1 or 2, does it matter after seeing Ciryl Gane looking fresh af in the third round after TKO'ing Lewis? Is the Muy Thai, the crazy conditioning and atheletism Gane have enough to take out Ngannou? 


TBH I think Gane wins but I would love to see this fight happen soon. What are your thoughts?
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I tried to Mathematically Determine the best MMA Heavyweights of all time.
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@Trent0405
I mean I guess the list is interesting but it doesn't really mean much to me lol.

What did you think of the Ciryl Gane / Derrick Lewis Fight last night?
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I tried to Mathematically Determine the best MMA Heavyweights of all time.
Is the point of the list to make an argument for who would have been best of all time during their prime? If so I might disagree with that argument
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Fast Food Mafia DP1
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@ILikePie5
unvote, vtl earth
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@whiteflame
I suppose I get that this is a problem if I tilt my head enough, but I'll note that the reasoning I gave included an explanation for why Wylted, in particular, was an uncertain vote for me when it's based on odd behavior. I was hoping to see how he'd respond to pressure, since my recollection of our experience with him in previous games is that he has some pretty distinct responses as scum vs. town. Maybe that was just in that particular game, but I've noticed that he tends to make strange moves when either he's being pressured. The defensiveness stood out to me at first, but his eventual admission that he just did this on a whim alleviated those concerns.
I'll have to re-evaluate whether this feels like legit reaction baiting pressure, but for now I will take your word on that.
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Slight scum reads:

Speedrace/ whiteflame 

Town reads:

Pie / wylted/ chris

Slight town:

disc

Null:

Poly / earth / oromagi
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@MisterChris
vtl poly

@ chris GMTA I was just thinking we should be voting poly here
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@Earth
Honestly we wasted this DP  so far because we spent like 3 pages just talking to Wylted. My impression of Wylted is that he often does stuff by his gut and says stuff without thinking. I'll have to comb through Oro's posts, but he seems engaged, as he been when he was Town.
If you feel like town is on a bad train (I agree wylted was a bad train) and you are town, it is your perrogative to take that train else where. Needless to say, null reads on every player do little to accomplish what you say you want.
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pie's post 73 gets him town points from me
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@whiteflame
This is literally what Oro does every game. It doesn’t matter if it’s against the spirit of it, I’d sus him immediately if he didn’t do it. Saying it pissed you off doesn’t really justify it, nor does pointing out that it’s less useful in this game. It’s DP1, dude. We’re all spitballing at this stage, but for some reason, you chose to call him out specifically for behavior that is not at all unusual.
Wylted isn't a usual player... How many games have we played with him since he's been back?

As for Disc, your response to him in post 23 wasn’t particularly responsive. If claims mean nothing, then there’s no basis for you as town to seek a mass claim to get them. And just because it’s difficult to make connections between roles and characters doesn’t mean it’s unreasonable to expect that some people may be able to sort character claims by those that are likely to have PRs and those that aren’t. Difficulty resulting from weak justifications makes it harder for scum to use the info, but not impossible. How does town benefit?
I mean when he claimed he said it doesn't yeild benefit or hurt...
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@whiteflame
Unvote

So far, I'd have to agree with Discipulus_Didicit that Wylted is looking the most scummy. I was waiting to see how he'd respond to the pressure he's received so far, and though he hasn't been particularly defensive, it does seem as though he's refusing to directly respond to DD and is being pretty scattershot with his choices for a lynch, picking Oro first without any reasoning (and not responding to me when I asked him to justify it, though I will note that it's a little odd that Oro's usual wincon post came up so late in his posting), and then sussing Pie and me for no reason other than a gut reaction. Coming from anyone else, he would be an easy choice for a lynch, but past experience with Wylted has me second-guessing a choice to push a lynch on him, since he often exhibits anti-town behaviors and jumps around on lynches, especially in the early game. That being said, right now, he's the only person who have any suspicions of so far, so he'll be my vote for the time being.

VTL Wylted
I don't really like this vote, mostly because you highlighted the exact issue with it's reasoning yet voted because their wasn't any other options. At this point I don't know what you were expecting to get out of wylted by voting for him. Kind of a wasteful vote, with a bit of convoluted reasoning. Disc's original suspicions do make a mountain out of a molehill (which is fine DP1), but even when he pinged me to join his wagon I was like "no that's some next level bad reasoning". 
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@Earth
Sups seemingly confirmed the non existence of 3rd parties. Are 3rd parties not in meta in DART anymore?
They are occasionally used. TBH  we don't have the player count these days to really balance them in properly while also being able to afford to scum players in a team. If we were to get like 11 player games you could make a balance argument for 2 scum, 1 third rest town, but even then I am not a huge fan of that balancing. I am not a fan of themin general really. Third party generally is a super easy win or a super difficult win with rarely any middle ground in my experience. 
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Fast Food Mafia DP1
I'll be very active over the next 4 days
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unvote
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if it seems im being lazy this phase, I am. my active days are sat-tues. I'll actually try investigating sh1t saturday. 
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wylted seems fine to me. VTL earth
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@Wylted
that was partially a joke. I behave almost like a robot in real life though. No displays of emotion. 

I see any emotion as weak and effeminate.  Even anger. 

I try to take the filters off here, so no big deal, but have a hard time acknowledging any emotion. 

I also feel like being emotional means a loss of control and any loss of control is scary. 

Wylted lowkey sounds like a serial killer 0.o
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Fast Food Mafia DP1
checking in, but wont be on much tonight. 
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Supas Theme Split or No Theme Split Mafia [SIGN UPS]
i feel that. ima change mine to fast food too. 
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Supas Theme Split or No Theme Split Mafia [SIGN UPS]
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@Vader
I think we should go away from fake claims
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Supas Theme Split or No Theme Split Mafia [SIGN UPS]
Does the theme split one come with fake claims?
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Supas Theme Split or No Theme Split Mafia [SIGN UPS]
Best animes
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ok!
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Destitution mafia dp2
Didn't want to spend another million day phases trying to hunt the second scum lol
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Gg all
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Thank god
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Okay cool let's end this.

If you are town shoot Chris tonight.

Vtl chris
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@Vader
We're you shot?
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