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Mafia wins. Get Rekt Noobs.
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@ILikePie5
I meant cause we’re both dying we can just ask Bullish lol
oh right lol
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@ILikePie5
At least we’ll both know who scum is with 100% certainty
I don't think I do lol
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@Speedrace
Too much WIFOM. Don't govern. His role isn't useful anyway so it doesn't matter
Alright well I am probs dead tonight, no way scum lets me to LYLO. Oh well, it was really only useful dp1 or 2, and neither day phases were active enough to pull a lynch off so its whatevs.
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@whiteflame
@warren42
Hmm... Bullish isn't on yet so I may still govern this. What do you think? Speed says no. I feel like pie may have self voted hoping I would govern him but idk
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I was debating using the govern til the self vote lol. That's shady
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@ILikePie5
self vote... were you scum? You better have been scum lol
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Yeah... I don't wanna wait until tomorrow for danielle to claim. Let's have her claim first thing next day phase I guess.
VTL pie.
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@drafterman
I just remembered danielle said in dp1 post 97 Danielle said she doesn't play weekends. I feel like if she were scum she'd make an exception to that though. Do you remember in supas waifu game where she was scum with you if she logged in on the weekend?
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From bullish:
You can only govern after they've been lynched
When you govern they do not flip
You can govern everyone, inlcuding yourself
When you govern the DP ends like normal
When you govern someone else you essentially become double voter, and that person becomes voteless, this is informed to everyone publicly
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@ILikePie5
Wym? I thought you can overturn the lynch to someone else?
Nope. I literally just prevent a lynch period, and whoever would have been lynched becomes voteless and I control their vote.
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@drafterman
Actually, we should lynch you and you overturn to Pie
I can't turn a lynch onto another player, I can just prevent a lynch from going through. So if you lynched me it would just prevent my own lynch and it would be a VTNL. That's all my role does essentially is VTNL, which is why I am kind of useless, and why I wasn't too unwilling to claim today.
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@Danielle
@drafterman
@whiteflame
@warren42
@Speedrace
If we lynch pie, you want me to over turn it or nah?
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@ILikePie5
You have to use your role today, you know that right?
I will if the majority of town want me too, but honestly I am hoping that's not the case because that will be 3 no lynches in a row. I was hoping to use it on that1user dp1 (which is why I was dismissing drafters water from a stone argument, since I was making that spot non useless since I could control it's vote after that point).
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@whiteflame
Tougher call. I'm unsure about Draft, but I have a hard time disbelieving his claim as much as other people have stated, so for me, it's between Speed and Pie. I agree with warren that the NK had to be between the two of them, and since neither of them have behaved scummily, I'm making my decision based on their role claims. Much as the vanilla claim is impossible to verify (and based on previous games, Speed would claim vanilla as scum), Pie's claim comes off as the oddest. The 2X rolestealer just seems incredibly arbitrary in terms of numbers of uses. His choice of targets is very convenient as well. I think it makes sense as a way to avoid attention since it seems like a ballsy claim at first glance, but the number of factors that make me doubt it are greater than those for Speed. It could also be both of them, but for now, Pie seems like the more likely of the two to be scum.
That's kinda where I am too. Danielle looks kinda good for not carrying the night kill since she was roleblocked, but she could have been a side role or something so I wanna hear from her and compare her claim, but I am thinking pie is the lynch today.
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@whiteflame
I'll join this. VTL Danielle.At this point, we at least have narrowed the window of possible scum, but more info before we pursue the lynch makes sense. Hopefully this time, we can actually get a lynch off.
Sounds good. Out of the active players, who are you most willing to lynch right now?
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Its hard with pie, because he is kind of a stubborn player, and sticks to meta logic way too easily. But come on.. Role stealer, is along the same lines as stalker and hooker, and he is suspicious of drafter? This logic actually works against me, since my role doesn't have a scummy connotation, but thats three different scum sounding roles, if anything scum sounding roles should appear town to him given his own role.
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@ILikePie5
Like I said, Bullish screwed me over when he mod killed That1. My vote will stand on Drafter because Roleblocker is the most scum affiliated role so far.
But role stealer is a scummy role too...
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@Speedrace
Thoughts on pie saying he's 2x?
Like I said, he's got a role that on paper seems super confirmable but that makes it so it can't be confirmed so yeah, it's kind of suspicious. I am also suspicious of pie for being on drafter so hard, I think drafter is being set up for a mislynch. Started getting that feeling when people wagoned me so easily on him last dp. I wanna hear dani's claim first but I think he's my top candidate so far for a lynch today.
VTL danielle for a claim.
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@ILikePie5
What do you mean controlled? Can you overturn a No Lynch or VTNL?
No a player has to be lynched. And I have there vote.
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@ILikePie5
Wanna explain?
We need to lynch someone, and by DP3 there's been enough time for results. Towns two biggest power roles are dead, I don't see the harm in getting claims so we can narrow down the rest of the players.
I'll start. I am a 1x governor. I can overturn a lynch, by doing so I inherent the victim's vote permanently.Can you clarify?
For example: If you get lynched, I can overturn it. You will continue to live, but your vote will be controlled by me like a politician, for the rest of the game. Bullish will publicly announce this upon me using the role.
Grand Theft Auto - Role Stealer: I can steal any passive or active role that the person may have. I clarified with Bullish that I cannot steal Day Roles, nor can I steal Vanilla. Plus the roles given to me are not affiliation indicative (I asked him that).I stole That1’s NP1 which is why I’m so mad that Bullish modkilled her instead of Supa cause it would essentially town confirm her even if I was lynched in the process.Last night I targeted Whiteflame and got nothing - clearly cause he had a day role.
Interesting.. Damn that's a really confirmable role that we have no way of confirming right now.
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@ILikePie5
He’s the type of person to not think twice after doing something. This argument is WIFOM anyways.
This feels weak lol. How do you plan on convincing others to vote for him if your argument is WIFOM based and not behavioral?
I’m more sus of Drafter than Warren at the moment.
Why?
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@ILikePie5
There are 3 claims left, cop and doc are dead, I see no reason why you guys shouldn't claim to help narrow this down.
I'll start. I am a 1x governor. I can overturn a lynch, by doing so I inherent the victim's vote permanently.
Pie please claim, and then popcorn dani or speed.
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@ILikePie5
Both.WIFOM and Role
Does drafter seem the type though to just come out and claim roleblocker? I mean it seems like a lot of people were suspicious of him yesterday, and I feel like he would have forseen that claiming roleblocker was risky. I think he would have thought of a better fake claim.
Also as you pointed out at the end, warren also has a scum sounding role. You really think they are pulling some kind of gambit? That's so risky for no reason. I wouldn't be surprised if there are other town roles that have mafia sounding-ness to them.
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@drafterman
I role blocked Danielle
Well, night kill happened, so either she didn't carry it I suppose. I'll give her some points for that.
What do you think about getting the rest of the claims at this point, Dani, speed and pie?
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@whiteflame
As for who killed me, I have little clue. I was an odd choice of targets, given my likely role, at least this early on.
Not sure why you were killed either lol. Were you pressuring anyone specifically? I can't remember.
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@ILikePie5
I think he’s scum.
Behavior or just because of role though
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@ILikePie5
Are you voting drafter because of his role still?
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@ILikePie5
But why That1 over Supa lol
Idk I am guessing because her slot was inactive first?
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@ILikePie5
I love how Bullish mod killed our Doctor instead of Supa
If we could have lynched dp1, even if it was a mislynch, we would have had a replacement for her. This is 100% our fault lol. We have no lynched twice in a row due to inactivity.
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Any results?
RIP whiteflame. His role kind of makes sense with mine though lol.
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sounds good, though I was looking for a character not role but that is useful to know
vtl pie
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@warren42
Correct, but you and white flame seem to have been pressuring me for not having been active during the middle portion of the phase
And you convienently got on and active when I voted you, so it worked.
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@warren42
I was one of the main posters for awhile in the day phase. To say that you have no information on me isn't true. I disagree with that on its face.Was your intent a claim or a lynch?
Being a top poster doesn't mean you aren't scum. Currently intent is a claim.
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@warren42
I feel like a push on me is relatively opportunistic, I've given no reason to indicate I'm scum and have provided a clear outline of my thoughts/reads.
Oppertunistic isn't the right word. You were no where to be found, the day phase is ending soon, we have like no information or leads, why not you?
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I definitely think we need more information so ima hop on board with whiteflame and pressure warren for a claim
Vtl warren
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I dunno what "he's been under the radar" means lol I think I've been fairly active
Not about activity, its your under the radar ness. And kind of that you were so eager to wagon with me on drafter. I was after drafter for behavioral reasons; which he explained. You and pie are on him for his role which I feel is an easy shot for a mislynch. As far as the "why didnt he die" debate goes, danielle herself said he was obviously a roleblocker. I was thinking he was a scout or lookout but I was wrong. But if mafia also thought iy was obvious he was a roleblocker they would probably leave him alive for a mislynch. So I am kind of town leaning drafter for it now
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@Speedrace
I said why, but also you feel kind of back ground to me which makes me nervous. Haven't really done anything for me to town read you.
Idk just trying to push the game along rather than let it stagnate.
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Vtl speed. He has been under my radar which scares me because I know speed as mafia is dangerous. I would like a character claim.
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