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Sorry for my inactivity tonight, it's my weekend so I am playing BDO with mikal.
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Waking up....
I'll take drafter's excuse that he was busy last day phase, though I wish he would have said so last day phase. In general I can accept a town roleblocker, seen them plenty of times before. Drafter get's some credit for being up front about it, as warren (points out. I won't town confirm him from that, because ragnar claimed town roleblocker in a supa game, however I know drafter could probably come up with a better fake claim than that as scum, so it leans more likely that he could be town.
Not sure what we do about that1user. If she is scum we have no way of doing anything about it and I don't think the mod is gonna get a replacement for her until we have a dead townie, which gives that slot two free day phases to go under the radar. Kinda sucky. If we don't have a direction to go by the end of the day phase, I would still be okay lynching her. It's not about getting blood out of a stone or whatever, I've literally lost games as town to people who just don't post. Oro for example went under the radar with like 2 posts in an entire game once as scum and won which was a pretty sh1tty way to lose. Greyparrot as well in a christmas game over a year ago did the same.
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Last two phases I mean this and last dp. I feel like he jist doubled down by post justifying his poor vote last dp and that's all hes done so far.
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Going back to bed for a couple of hours. Keeping my vote where it is for now, i'll reflect when I am more awake buy unless I am missinh something I don't think anythings changed. I am still more suspicious of his behavior in the last two phases than I am about his claim. I can buy town having a roleblocker sometimes.
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@drafterman
Wait... What!? You thought I was trying to claim roleblocker? Don't you think I would have said something in agreement to you about having a scum role then in dp1? Even if I was scum that would be fishy as hell to claim roleblocker after not mentioning early that I also had a scum type of role.
Did you roleblock last night?
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Sorry usually asleep at this time, will be going back to sleep soon.
Yes I did receive weed, said so in my first post in a way that I hoped wouldn't out the giver of it. I am surprised supa just came out and said it though. I have no clue what it does, bullish won't tell me and I can't use it the night I receive it ao I have to wait until tonight.
As for the drafter situation: I wasn't pushing him for a claim, more for an explanation of why he put 0 effort in and didnt try to help me push for activity and basically wasted his vote in the last say phase despite his usual insistance that town needs to lynch to accomplish anything. He basically votes me over not getting a joke. Convienently he kept that vote and post justifies to make it seen as if he was doing anything last day phase useful even according to his own definitions lol.
He knows his behavior last day phase wasn't town which is why he is doubling down.
As far as whether I am a crime or not is ridiculous, it must be a crime. Sounds more white collar, and my descriptor says stuff along the lines of politicians doing things for money for their allies. Sounds pretty criminal to me. Ask bullish about it if you disagree. My role is a day role and proveable at literally any point though, but it's 1x so I'd rather not just because drafter asked.
If drafter isnt going to claim im keeping my vote on him. Not playing that game. Mikal doesnt get away with this type of crap so drafter doesnt either.
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@Danielle
@Vader
@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
Thoughts on drafter?
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Hats off to scum for that one! Not sure I entirely understand oros role but looks like we dont have a town cop which is... Interesting.
Good thing I got some weed, I will need it to make it through this game if it persists as dp1 did...
Gonna pick up where we left off and pressure drafterman.
His inactivity and lack of interest in moving things forward struck me as odd because he seems to be the type to want to move things along. I know it wasn't just him, but I hold him to a higher standard.
Vtl drafterman
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Current Mafia:
Bullish - Crimes mafia (NP1)
Signups:
In the Hopper:
That1User: Animation Chaos Mafia
ILikePie5: U.S. House of Representatives Mafia
Crocodile: Jojo mafia
Elminster
drafterman
Lunatic- Inverse reality
MisterChris- WWII
Supadudz- Darling In The Franxx, The Disastrous Life of Saiki, Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood Mafia
Danielle - 2020 In Review or WIFE Mafia
Speedrace
warren42
On Hold
zaradi, Virtuoso, PressF4Respect, RM, BearMan
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@Speedrace
Agreed on all drafter points, I wanted to lynch him earlier but no one helped me so I gave up
I was expecting a better burst of activity from him, but didn't happen.
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@Danielle
Or you could help me push for drafters claim. Still got 2 hours.
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@Danielle
There are 4 people I have concerns about atm, and not one who stands out more than another. I'd want them all to respond to me before deciding who to lynch and I doubt that's going to happen.I really don't mind not lynching DP1, but I do think it's stupid that people didn't push for more claims in a themed game where the mod specified there were no fake claims given. Again I know I wasn't online until today so some of that's on me, but damn.
You could make up for it by volunteering your claim, as did I. Then we will have 3 claims for the day, making it not so unusually wasteful.
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unvote, vtl drafterman.
We need to make things happen, and drafterman is not someone who I feel as town would be as lazy as he is currently being. In MCU villains he was constantly asking people who disgareed with current lynches who they should be voting for, and bragging about how his RVS vote created pages and pages of discussion. He seems to have absolutely 0 interest in the solving the game, and I remember him playing similarly in Waifu mafia.
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@Danielle
I'm not voting that1user. He/she hasn't been online in 6 days so "inactivity" gives us no information about their affiliation. Bullish confirmed he would replace inactive players. And fwiw, it's kinda funny making a big deal about the inactives yet after I had posted today there was little to no discussion. So how much are the "inactives" really to blame for lack of productive conversation on DP1? Just something to think about as I know I will always get called out for not posting on weekends. I don't really like being online at night either so I'm about to go lol. I mostly stay online from 9 am to 5 pm during the week when I have to be at the computer for work. I'll probably just VTNL since that's where this day phase is headed.
It's not just that1users fault or your fault or anyone's specifically. Everyone including myself, could be more active. Nothing I could push on previously could really be substantiated however, so I am just trying to push the game forward. If that1user is scum, they got a free pass all of day phase one though. If they get replaced, the person replacing them if scum also got a free pass to not be scum read for a good portion of the game. And no one made a big deal about you being inactive, people knew you would show up.
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@Danielle
2 and a hald hours left, help me lynch someone. Drafter? You played with scum in supadudz waifu game, do you think his lack of passion kind of resembles his play in that game? I mostly skimmed after I died but I don't remember any real effort or hard hitting analysis in that game either, so I am starting to suspect him. What do you think?
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@Speedrace
I think That1 as scum would be active. But also don't really like lynching non-lurking inactives
If she hasn't been on in 6 days she likely doesn't even know she is scum, if she is indeed scum. That said I will grant you that bullish said he was looking for confirmations before the game started, so I suppose at least both mafia have posted.
I don't neccesarily care if we lynch someone else, or vote to no lynch. But I would like people to at least give me a decision one way or the other, instead of the laziness going on. Who do you scum read? We can still lead a lynch. Or would you rather no lynch?
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@drafterman
My philosophy has also been that voting someone that is MIA and literally can't respond to votes in game is like getting blood from a stone.
Okay, so what do you suggest then? Why are you so un-interested in this game? I was just looking at the old MCU game where we went at it, and you weren't this lethargic. I'd assume you would post an alternative lynch. If it's me, at least substantiate a case or try to get people going. You are literally putting in 0 effort right now, and seem perfectly okay with town's lack of involvement. Not what I would expect from you.
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@Danielle
@drafterman
@Vader
@oromagi
@Speedrace
3 hours left. You guys okay with a no lynch, or want to get the inactive that1?
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@drafterman
I always thought your philosophy was that town should lynch since its there primary tool for getting scum. Your vote is essentially a VTNL if your just gonna leave it hanging and do nothing to pursuade others with it.
Interesting.
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@drafterman
I'll leave my vote on scum.
Strange, to say. Your vote is currently on town.
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Unofficial Vote Count
That1- 3/6 - iLikepie5, whiteflame, lunatic
Danielle- 2/6 - oromagi, Speedrace
lunatic- 1/6 - drafterman
iLikePie5- 1/6 - Danielle
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@drafterman
Are you going to join on that1 or would you prefer a no lynch today?
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@drafterman
To be clear, my role is neutral. It is found on both town and scum with fairly equal regularity. However, the name Bullish chose is tied to the Mafia version. (as an example, tracker vs. scout)
I picked up on that, maybe the phrasing in that list makes it seem otherwise.
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Claims
Whiteflame- Disturbing the Peace
Lunatic- Coruption, No direct role link
Unclaimed
Drafterman- Has a scum role, Direct role link
Danielle
oromagi
SupaDudz- No role link
ILikePie5
That1User
Speedrace- No role link
Warren42- No role link
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@whiteflame
Anyone you want to push?
I am currently on that1user, and okay for her lynch. Alternative to her, probably a no lynch. The day has been kind of inactive and I only have gut reads with nothing to substantiate a push.
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@whiteflame
I'd be up for pushing for at least one more claim, unless someone else is willing to volunteer at least a character claim.
I can claim I guess, don't really see the harm
I am corruption- Accepting bribes for favors
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@oromagi
That's interesting because I'd say the same thing about my crime- relevant to current US news.
Maybe town is current events?
Who knows. Will be hard to tell until we kill at least one scum.
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@Danielle
Actually if scum = law enforcement, I assume the mod would have given fake claims of some kind.
Bullish says this in the OP:
I don't give fake claims to the mafia directly, however they may receive hints and help with fake claims, especially if the theme is a subject they're not familiar with.
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Day phase ends in 5 and a half hours. What's the plan, do we want to push for claims this day phase or just let it expire? Only upside to this is to get claims to help our investigators narrow down who they are gonna target tonight I suppose.
I personally don't see the use in analyzing the theme split until we have a flip or two. My crime is non-violent, and is kind of relevant to current/semi current events.
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@drafterman
Why would you ask that? The theme is that we're all crimes which you would know if you were a crime.Ergo you aren't a crime and you're an outliar.VTL Lunatic
Some people think the IRS is pretty criminal. Sucks you didn't get the joke I guess.
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Does anyone else have a town role that has a scummy aspect to it?
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@ILikePie5
Yup, he prides himself in being able to WIFOM out of sticky situations - Whiteflame can confirm
Well that's him putting himself into the sticky situation for... no reason. Not WIFOMing his way out of it.
On another note, fitting the theme, it kind of makes sense that a scum version of a role would be used over a town role wouldn't it, considering we're all crimes?
I realize you are probably just trying to create activity here with that read, but I would be remiss not to point out that it's pretty weak,
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@ILikePie5
I definitely don’t like the fact that Drafter has a role with the scum name instead of town name. I’d be willing to pressure for a full claim just based on that
And you think drafter, of all players would just decide "I'm feeling lazy, I am just gonna claim something that seems scummy without any pressure YOLO".
Yeah sounds like drafter.
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@oromagi
watched the first ep of The Stand and thought it sucked. I can guess I can cut losoe CBS for 2021.
I am not too sure about it either. It's definitely a network issue... They kind of plow through big character moments, and don't give them their proper credit. There's no tension or build up. They are taking the script extremely literally it seems. Also if you hadn't read the books, the time switches are probably really confusing and take you out of the moment. The book doesn't warp back and forth like a Tarantino film like that lol. It's a straight narrative, that builds with character development and the way they are directing this completely takes you out of it. Acting is only okay.
Idk, I'll keep watching it because I read the books, but I definitely understand why you would not like it. The show would have been better off if it was picked up by a network like AMC, or HBO. With a bigger budget they could make the show awesome. If you ever want a good read though, I definitely reccomend the book. Hell, even the 90's miniseries was probably directed a bit better than this.
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Btw mass claiming in this game is idiotic if how things are playing out now are playing out
Did someone say "Mass claim"?!
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Oh I know what will piss people off:
We should just VTNL today.
VNTL
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Someone argue with me about something game related, so we can create some discussion!
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