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@drafterman
I expected you to dis-agree in regards to mikal, notice I didn't tag you. It's not even worth debating, because in general you are right, and the behavior is how we treat most people. I am treating mikal differently here because I know him in real life, and he on and off does this in live mafia but then will play very seriously the majority of the time. I also have never seen him troll a game on mafia scum. In your limited experience of playing with him your stance, however, is completely justifiable. My point was just that I'm not gonna participate in it because doing so is more likely to aggrivate that response from him. It sucks when he throws games, and I give him sh1t all the time for it. But at the end of the day the mod let him play, and I am not gonna just waste a potential mislynch again, because nothing will be gained and he won't give a sh1t he hurt his team. I will however probably join his wagon if he doesn't start posting and doing something though.
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I am not gonna do the "policy lynch mikal" thing. If it's just to teach him a lesson, I already know he doesn't care lol. He's been slapped on the wrist enough to know people aren't a fan of that playstyle. Also Mikal doesn't always do that, and I am going to give him the benefit of the doubt this go around until he does it again. He seems to have mostly signed up for this as a favor to pie, so auto lynching him probably isn't doing us or him a favor. As soon as he does the self sabotoging antics, I will vote him so not to distract the dp, but until he does Im give him the benefit of the doubt.
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Heres what I am gonna do. Im gonna lynch people on this list in order until they give me enough of a reason to otherwise. Sick of the rampant inactivity and 0 effort.
Vtl whiteflame.
Were not gonna have another game like bullishs
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@whiteflame
It's you, dude. It's always been you.
damn...
Well let's keep that on the DL for now. Who should we random lynch today?
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@Greyparrot
@Bullish
@Speedrace
@WaterPhoenix
Let's random lynch whose yalls top lynch pick
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@warren42
who we lynching bay bee
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@Vader
what's ur full claim
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@drafterman
whose elminsters scum buddy
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@whiteflame
Who is your scum buddy this game
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@MisterChris
This isn't the theme split. I for one can attest that I'm a town Dem.
Fair enough. Who do you suspect so far?
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@Greyparrot
not hal rogers?
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@Bullish
Given pie's political inclination, is the theme split obvious?
pie's political inclinations are apparent in the writing of my PM. Not sure if it's a dems mafia republicans town though. Usually his theme splits are kinda complex
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@MisterChris
whats your pfp?
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@Danielle
Lol at the ad populum.
For all the remarks about being a cry baby, you sure are being a cry baby lol.
Uhh.. how did I ignore my win con by casting my vote in the morning? I was not willing to type in the mafia chat! I was only typing to you to tell you to STOP MESSAGING ME BECAUSE I WAS IN BED lol that was literally the only thing I was willing to type to you.
In that same type you typed that you could have typed "vtl speed" in a game where MYLO wagons often dis-appear. You had spent the entire weekend lying about your schedule and saying you would be on after the weekend and didn't. For all the whining about how much more important your schedule is than everyone elses, it's ironic you expect yours to be more important and the mafia games schedule should revolve around yours lol.
The fact that you're so mad at me
Your the one who is still mad here. I just said I don't want to play as scum with you any more and left it at that lol.
I don't have to sign on in the middle of the night just because you want me to
Says the same person who keeps insisting she wasn't trying to prove a point ;-)
"anyone who did what you did" ... BRO MY CRIME WAS WANTING TO WAIT UNTIL THE MORNING TO SIGN ON. The horror!
It takes 5 seconds to log on your phone and vtl speed, oh the horror!
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@Danielle
I am already bored of this. Gonna ignore all the "crybaby" insults, because they are kind of pathetic.
You think I should apologize? For what lol?
1. It ain't that serious
2. I am not genuinely sorry for anything, so why would I?
I maintain the statement I do not want to play as scum with you again. I already don't like playing scum as is it, and usually ask mods before hand not to make me scum. However one of the main reasons I don't like playing scum is because I like the make calls like "forfeiting the night kill" or other risky plays that aren't usually thought of and most scum teams just want to play things safe, which is boring to me. The second reason I don't like playing scum is because of people like you who can't be flexible when necessary. I realize it didn't matter in this game, because of how OP your role was combined with inactivity of the town and a mod kill, but not every game is gonna be like this one. I'd prefer not to play with someone as scum that willfully ignores their win condition but is willing to type in the mafia chat when all they have to do is cast a quick vote. I would treat anyone who did what you did the same, I would not want to play with them. Your excuse makes you sound like a boomer (maybe you actually thought it was extremely difficult to log in on your phone and type "vtl speed"). Who knows maybe you weren't actually being vindictive and were actually just being a boomer. Regardless I'd prefer to play with someone who would make that concerted effort to win at the cost of 3 minutes of their life. Yes I do take the game seriously. If you don't then good for you, keep flexing how super cool and important your life is, it means nothing to me. I am not gonna take back the statement that I would prefer not to play as scum with someone like that because it would be a lie.
And if it's the spamming you thing you want me to appologize for, again no. I would have spammed literally anyone in that situation if they were on and could quick hammer to end the game. I left the mafia chat because you were throwing, no reason to stay in the chat if you are going to willfully ignore your team mate in a team chat. What's the point?
I apologize for nothing. That said I don't hold grudges, you are welcome to, idgaf, but no genuine apology for the things I have said is coming from me.
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@Speedrace
Lol I actually do this tho xD
lmao okay I concede, we have no lives. Got you and bullish selling us out over here
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@Bullish
Damn why u gotta call me out like that
Ssh, I was pretending like that was sarcasm, they aren't supposed we really do that...
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@Speedrace
Expect for the fact that she brings it up every 5 seconds how important her time is: " I told you for many days "I am struggling immensely from this injury" and have to go to physical therapy after work 3x a week on top of other responsibilities... yet I still typed to your whining, cry baby, no-life-having ass every."
I pinged her to hammer in MYLO, which constitutes me not having a life lol.
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I love people who flex their schedules like their lives are more important than everyone elses and they are just playing to satisfy the rest of us "no life nerds" lol. You are right, your schedule and availability is more important than ours, Queen Danielle. All we do all day is refresh DART in hopes of playing a mafia game. When no mafia game is occurring, we just masturbate furiously out of boredom to fill the time until a game starts.
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@Danielle
I don't feel bad for calling you out. You lied about your schedule saying all weekend you were gonna be on after the weekend and post. MYLO is the most important part of the game for scum to be active; You said all day you were gonna be on later to hammer. You didn't even attempt to log in but were more than okay to type in the discord. You could have voted speed like 20 times in the time you were posting, if you think you couldn't have you are just are acting like a boomer.
I would have pinged any mafia partner for not being online when it's hammer time, it's fucking tradition. I would hope that my mafia partner would have done the same thing to me. If you weren't on, you weren't on oh well. What was annoying is that you were on, and TYPING. You 100% could have got on and voted but didn't to prove a point, which is also why you drug out voting speed as long as possible; to prove a point lol.
I don't buy the crying bull crap in the slightest, you weren't crying over me pinging you to get on lol. And if your wife was pissed at you for your phone buzzing you could have just silenced the notifications on discord, its super easy. Wagons in Mylo can dis-appear literally at any time, is scums job to message their buddies to get on and I would have done it to literally any mafia partner. I expect most of mafia partners either wouldn't see the message pinging if they legitimately weren't on but if they were able to type back I feel like most would have taken the 10 seconds to log on and vote lol.
I'm playing the game to win, and pinging your scum mate is part of that. I have won a lot of games pinging scum buddies, even had one with magic once where we quick hammered because I pinged her to get on. If you are seriously offended by that, cry else where. If you want to stay pissed at me for pinging you go ahead. I don't care.
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@Danielle
If you can't post the game now when I'm ready then fuck it, I'm out. You're being so vindictive. I'm never playing in one of your games again.
Good riddance :)
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@Danielle
dude stfu and drop it lol. And stop playing victim whilst throwing out insults, RM style lol. "I cried" "Your throwing a tantrum" lol.
Fuck you.
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@Crocodile
you want last spot?
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@Danielle
At the end of the day, I can't read minds, so if you honestly weren't being vindictive then I guess I am in the wrong. I figured the fact that you logged on just to yell at me while dropping smiley faces despite your tone clearly indicating the opposite of a smiley was you being the classic sassy danielle where you try to prove a point. I see you do it to people all the time, normally I think it's funny. It pissed me off because we could have just ended the game right there and you were actively responding to me instead of dropping a 5 second VTL on speed. And then I got on today and see that you drug out speeds lynch for like no reason, before voting him, even though I told you like 50 times all we needed to do was hammer him, so either you weren't listening, or were trying to spite me and prove me wrong long "Hey b1tch, look I am fvcking around for no reason because we can afford to, so I didn't need to vote last night".
Maybe I just interpreted your tone wrong. Whatever. We won its over. On to the next one.
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@Danielle
You were typing in the mafia chat to yell at me and dropping "smiley faces" which seem to say "Fvck you for telling me what to do" and then just dipped. The same time it took you to do that, you could have dropped a vote on a speed and dipped. I have no reason to stick around in the mafia chat just so you could prove a fvcking point to me that your a "strong independent woman who doesn't take no orders from a man" lol. You could have literally just logged in on your phone and dropped the vtl on speed and it would have been over. Yeah it didn't matter as much in this game, but that wagon could have easily dis-appeared, I have seen many games where it happens in MYLO. As scum you have to be kind of flexible. Also you said all weekend that you would be on after the weekend and didn't even log in monday lol. Pretty sure hopping on and VTL'ing speed wouldn't have taken too much from you lol. I don't buy the tears crap, but whatever, I'm an evil douche bag I guess.
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@whiteflame
Yeah... honestly, inactivity in general really hurt this game. Having to deal with the absence of That1 early on and minimal response from Danielle made too much of what was actually happening in this game incredibly unclear. Not blaming Danielle (probably was IRL stuff), but it's frustrating when that's the way that scum flies under the radar.
It was frustrating player scum with her too lol. She was inactive in the scum chat during the weekends, debated me on almost every call without understanding the reasoning, and she could have hammered speed for hours last night but was yelling to me about "balance" even though she hadn't even logged on this site for 3 days and kept saying all weekend she would be active after the weekend. She was typing in the mafia chat when all she had to do was log in for 10 seconds while taking a poop to vtl speed. If that wagoned dis-appeared when she could have hammered for so long I would have just quit.
I am never playing scum again with her lol. She waited until the morning to hammer just to be vindictive.
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@Speedrace
wHy wOUld maFIa paSS uP lYlO
Seriously. I kept bringing up that point too, even though it was contrary to my win just to prove a point. People buy too easily into results at MYLO. The easier win would have been to do as was discussed and kill speed and frame drafter for killing him as warren would have tracked him to speed. Even if that lynch didn't go through, I could have just governed me or dani that night phase for a win (the chance drafter would have blocked me and her again seems slim). I forfeited the kill mostly as an experiment because the win seemed imminent either way and I was really curious if drafter would take the bait or be open minded about a forfeiture. I was really dis-appointed he instantly voted you.
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@drafterman
I blocked Lunatic N1 and Danielle N2 and didn't stop the kill either night. Bad luck.
Your roleblock accuracy was amazing, it was only bad luck in that danielle had the role she had. As long as she was alive, it was virtually impossible for you to block the night kill. Had we not had that role, I would have probably carried the night kill and been lynched np2. It wasn't unlucky because you happened to target the scum who wasn't carrying the kill out, it was unlucky because we had that role so we got to choose who to carry the kill. You did well, up until dis-regarding that mafia would forfeit a night kill to frame someone in MYLO.
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@Speedrace
If it's drafter then it would also be warren
Yeah. That's quite a gambit. Well played to them if so.
Why would anybody just let a tracker and a roleblocker stay alive?
They are mislynch options, since warren can only target drafter he's not really a threat. Drafter's been a mislynch option from dp1.
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(sigh) danielle is no where to be seen, but honestly drafter's point makes sense. And I don't see drafter and warren as scum. Drafter knew he was being tracked every night and let warren just track him? Yeah doubtful. It's probably speed. Just wanted to be safe.
VTL Speed.
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@drafterman
Still doesn't make sense. If you're most suss then you're the obvious mislynch target whether they kill or not. It'd be objectively better for them to kill and push for your mislynch at LYLO, where Lunatic can't use his ability and Town has to lynch versus not killing and hoping I just happened to roleblock you and push your mislynch when Lunatic can just over turn it.
Oh shoot, now I see what your saying, yeah in LYLO if I use the ability its game over so it wouldn't make sense to gamble a mislynch in MYLO instead of LYLO. So yeah I guess it's between you and speed then. Ima mull this one over. If you were scum this could be some really WIFOM-y reverse psychology, but yeah you do have a point.
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@whiteflame
Alright, guess that makes sense, though it would be an odd choice for a scum role to give out gifts that grant roles to others, and especially to target town-leaning players early
Town leaning players are very subjective though. Mods give scum townie seeming confirmable roles all the time.
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@whiteflame
So, let me get this straight: I was NK’d, came back as Supa, who straight up declared his role, that role has been confirmed by 3 other people who each received different items, and I could still be mafia? I mean, wow, Supa would have had to do something insane for that to work.
Role confirmation =/= affiliation confirmation.
Also im not saying its you just used you as an example. It could be warren/ dani or me/dani or anyone other than speed and draft as a pair if scum forfeited the kill. Just trying to keep everyone open minded.
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@drafterman
Objectively scum wouldn't forfeit the kill because they'd prefer it to be LYLO rather than MYLO, where Lunatic can't make use of his ability (assuming Lunatic is Town).
Unless they were banking on me not using my role and blindly buying that one of you or whoever you blocked was scum.
However I will grant you that they would have to have known that you were blocking someone NOT on the scum team. In order for that to happen it would have to be warren. And it would depend on if they got tracker results before they submitted the night kill which seems doubtful.
Or they just gambled that you wouldnt target one of them which would be risky but have game ending rewards.
Could be as simple as you vs speed but I wanna play this safe and get Danis character and role just in case.
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I find it interesting that everyone is so willing to dismiss the potential for this to be like dani/whiteflame or something.
Mafia could have forfeited the roleblock.
We should get info from Dani before jumping to conclusions here.
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@Speedrace
You brought that on yourself btw
I thought it was wierd that pie lied, said he was 2x when he was 3x, then self voted. Maybe he was relying on me to govern him? I would have too if it weren't for the self vote.
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@drafterman
Why are you worried about a quick hammer if you can change it to a NL?
Good point.
VTL dani.
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@Danielle
Gonna need a claim from you. Not gonna vote you since a quick hammer could happen if one other person votes, but I am assuming you will claim without a vote.
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@warren42
Drafter blocked speed, I got LSD like I said. It was a watcher. Nobody visited whiteflame
Hopefully drafter can confirm this, but it's good that you posted results before drafter this time. We can at least confirm you aren't lying about your role now, though I didn't seriously suspect you were, it's good to have confirmation at least.
Why watch whiteflame over me? Just curious. I thought I was for sure dead last night.
Also what do you make of the roleblock on speed combined with no night kill? I am wary of mafia forfeiting a night kill so I don't want to jump to conclusion here. The one thing in speeds favor is that bullishes last game had vanillas, so I expected one or two here. But for drafter to be scum, I think it would have to be likely you were scum with him, which I don't buy atm for reasons stated last day phase.
Hmm...
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@Vader
I am so sorry to hear Supa. I went through the same thing with my best friend 4 years ago, it still haunts me. Let me know if you ever wanna talk.
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