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Lynch croc first. No exceptions. He claimed popular. If he's scum he can still win in lylo otherwise. He has to die tomorrow
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Unless scum have a second kill ability but if they did they would have used it when we we were one mislynch from winning
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Yeah it doesnt matter. You lynch croc and you lynch speed in that order town win period.
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Fixed, bad math, but still works out for auto win. Lynch me today, Tomorrow its 4 v 1, lynch croc tomorrow, if the game doesn't end then day phase since its 2 v 1, lynch speed.
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Game is unwinnable for scum.
I am the Saulas, first time I am lynched I will not die but my affiliation will change from scum to town. Not actually lynch proof or death proof. I was always planning on town siding, which is why I outted the information that there was three scum from the get go. Though TBH when we were one mislynch away from losing last day phase I would have been willing to quick hammer a townie for a scum win.
Mafia killing Misterchris though made this super easy since I was pretty unsure if he was scum he could still end the game.
I am the last scum on pie's sensor results, which town confirms grey and whiteflame. Misterchris is dead, so last scum is croc/speed.
We lynch me today, tomorrow it 5 v 1, lynch croc first since he's popular, if the game doesn't end lynch speed, GG.
VTL lunatic.
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Theres still 1 scum on that sensor results if skittlez is scum
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So that means at the start of next day phase literally no one can vote unless its been talked about. One accidental vote for a townie and scum can hammer of Chris is scum. Be careful y'all.
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if misterchris is scum double voter we may be in trouble
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scum would definitely be bragging by now, I think we scored here.
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I guess we will find out if we lost or not if scum start gloating lol
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UVC
Skittlez-5 /5- Whiteflame, lunatic, grey, misterchris, bearman
Crocodile- 1/5- croc
Lunatic- 1/5- Speed,
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UVC
Speed- 1/ 5- bearman,
Skittlez-5 /5- Whiteflame, lunatic, grey, misterchris, bearman
Crocodile- 1/5- croc
Lunatic- 1/5- Speed,
Skittlez-5 /5- Whiteflame, lunatic, grey, misterchris, bearman
Crocodile- 1/5- croc
Lunatic- 1/5- Speed,
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UVC
Speed- 1/ 5- bearman
Skittlez-4 /5- Whiteflame, lunatic, grey, misterchris
Crocodile- 1/5- croc
Lunatic- 1/5- Speed
Skittlez-4 /5- Whiteflame, lunatic, grey, misterchris
Crocodile- 1/5- croc
Lunatic- 1/5- Speed
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The more I think about it the less sense it makes to test lynch me. Scum aren't going to kill anyone that isn't confirmed by POE, it will just be me, chris or bearman that dies and we literally don't go forward at all.
Today is the best chance we have for lynching scum with the POE.
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If we lynch correctly today we can still afford to test me tomorrow btw if there are still lingering doubts, or if I am not night killed.
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@Greyparrot
@whiteflame
@MisterChris
I think Skittlez is the move today, speed tomorrow.
vtl skitlez
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If we lynch me today either me or chris die tonignt as the most town confirmed players. That means the rest of y'all HAVE to be smart and lynch either skittlez or speed tomorrow.
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@Greyparrot
Chris is really doing alot to defend speed and dismiss our concerns.
I know, but I think he's town still. Too many results that look good for him to be scum. I think his gut feelings are mis-guiding him.
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@MisterChris
I don't know where the Speed scum read is coming from. He has COP confirmed 2 innocents so far that we've been able to confirm through other means as well. His results are accurate and he hasn't thrown us off with them.
I give scum fake cop claims almost more than I actually use the cop role lol. Cop, tracker, sensor, that's 3 investigative roles. That's a pretty stacked town. You believe all three?
That said speed is behaviorally scum motivation wise. DP1 with his reaction to me, doing 0 scum hunting all three day phases, and defending skittlez who is heavily implicated based on POE.
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@Greyparrot
Im leaning skittlez or speed..can we get any consensus behind one of those? i mean there's a lot of scum to pick from we gotta be able to get at least 1
I think skittlez is probably the safer bet between the two, but I could go either way.
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@whiteflame
I'd totally be in agreement with your scum picks if it weren't for my Sensor. Between Speed and Croc, only one can be scum, as neither of them were on the lynch train (Croc's vote came in too late to be counted).
Oh good point. If it's one or the other, my bet is speed is the scum between the two based on behavior and the fact that no smart mafia lets a cop live this long and get results every day.
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@Speedrace
Bullish's tech game, he claimed vpn RB
So your counter argument for him not claiming in games he is scum, is that the the one time he did it he claimed his actual scum role? The point behind the FOS is that he sucks at fake claiming, that just feeds the point further.
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@Greyparrot
How about I hop on whatever lynch train you advocate instead of wasting the phase lynching you? practically nobody thinks you are scum.
Misterchris does, but if he's the minority then I am okay with lynching between skittlez and croc, though im leaning skittlez. You are on this POE but your behavior is too townie seeming to be scum. Speed not being roleblocked or night killed until DP3 doesn't look good for him.
My scum picks currently: Skittlez, speed, croc based on POE
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@Speedrace
He's also claimed DP1 as scum. It doesn't mean anything
Where and when?
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@MisterChris
why shouldn't we VTNL instead just in case you are jester? If you have been so consistent on wanting to be lynched, then that could implicate a jester role.
I am not a jester, it honestly makes no sense with Iroh, and Danielle's role basically suggests Iroh is in the game, and I claimed him dp1. Mafia sometimes get fake claims, but third party? It's just too much of a stretch to make any sense. That said most people genuinely hate jesters, myself included. I know I put one in my UwU mafia but it was because your role was a counter to it, and also supa's jester role only worked dp3, so it is much harder to be pulled off if he is lynched or killed earlier than that.
If you honestly think I am Jester, you should blame the mod for putting a crappy role in the game, since I've been okay with being lynched all three day phases, if I actually was jester than I am not a very inhibited one which makes it a dumb role. If I were you I wouldn't even count a jester win in those circumstances, or not even care about it.
That said, I hate being third party and often ignore my win condition to side with town. You can see this is one of speed's old MCU games where I was a lyncher.
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@MisterChris
Pure probability.3 total, 2/3 are very likely town. I can say with about 60% certainty Croc is scum from that alone.Croc makes no effort to defend himself, and instead does a "lol" esque response.
That's basically what croc did when he was about to be ynched in naruto before we switched to pie, remember? Also what is your thoughts on skittlez not claiming day phase 1, when in literally every game he's been town, he's claimed dp1. The only games he hasn't claimed dp1 has been the two games he was scum, bastard states and stormlight.
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@Speedrace
@MisterChris
VTL LunaticThere's no reason not to try and get more info from another NP. We can force mafia to narrow our choices further
I support this, but should we test croc role first or too risky?
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@MisterChris
Your change in tune is interesting. Why did you go as far as you did to prevent a mafia kill of you? Is that not anti-town? Shouldn't you open yourself up to be lynched to preserve the power roles?
No change in tune at all, I knew mafia were unlikely to night kill me since I said I was willing to be lynched day phase 1. I was always open to being lyched, I am literally telling you the best course of action is to lynch me today silly. I was telling yall to do it day phase 1 as well, I went to bed and woke up and yall had already VTNL'ed remember?
I prefer a speed lynch atm as well, but if it doesn't pan out do to being a strong character or role, I am okay with being lynched as an alternative if we have no where else to go.
I'd say if we end up going no lynch, you should probably lynch me instead, but I am on board the speed lynch.
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@MisterChris
Croc essentially confirms himself as scum.
Why is he more scum than skittlez and how are you so sure about this? You realize if we mislynch today it's over right?
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@MisterChris
Lunatic says he is confirmed by Danielle being BP. I'm not sure I buy that. Yes, her role mentions Iroh. But you would think that if they truly confirmed one another Zuko would be the one that, if killed, also kills Lunatic. We need everyone to claim, and we also need Lunatic to tell us who the heck kills him if killed.
I lied about that part, I was going to say it was Zuko since he was mentioned in my PM, obviously danielle died and I am still alive so I can't do that anymore. I am not deathproof, just lynch proof. Didn't want mafia to kill me, and claiming deathproof would protect me from being night killed, and claiming I would die if Zuko died seemed more believable. Danielle's role mentioned that Zuko and Iroh both reject Ozai's philosophy, we are clearly the same affiliation. That said, we should lynch me today. I will probably be night killed but if not I am at least more POE for you guys next phase.
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unvote, vtl skittle09
For a claim, pending death
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@whiteflame
He hasn’t, and it seems pretty obvious that he’s scum based on both my Sensor and the fact that he was the last to jump on the vote. I’d like to know why he decided to lynch when so many of us were using our votes to pressure a claim.
I just did a cntrl+f to verify, yep no claims from him. I think there is a pretty good chance he is scum here.
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If skittlez hasn't claimed yet, that's a scum tell btw. He claims dp1 every game he is town in. The only times he hasn't done that are in bastard states and stormlight, both of which he was scum.
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@MisterChris
As the most town confirmed player what do you think our best course of options are?
We can technically afford a no lynch today for further POE, and if we mislynch we lose. We can test crocs role but we'd have to be extremely careful, if he is town and mafia quick hammer it's over.
I personally reccomend lynching me to essentially no lynch and let mafia help us with POE by killing one more townie, and we can basically break the game next phase. Thought's? We can try to lynch scum today too, but if we mess up it's game over.
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@MisterChris
I am Sokka, Katara's brother. I am part of the southern water tribe, and after my father leaves I assume responsibility for the tribe. I become a leader during the war and train the youth of the tribe in combat. I am the Even Lobbyist. Which means on even day phases my vote is worth double. I win with town.
That explains the vote count yesterday, I was confused, though supa made a mistake. The lynch ended at l-1 (even though he was technically hammered afterwards).
Chis is now triple confirmed by speed, bearman, and the last phases lynch.
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If we play this right, we can easily POE the remaining scum. Sensor is OP af.
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@Speedrace
A popular and lynchproof seems improbable
Danielle's role confirms Iroh, and we can easily test the popular now.
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@Crocodile
I'm ty lee and apparently everyone loved me, due to my energetic and cheerful girl. It takes one more vote to lynch me
That role is called "popular" btw. Did supa actually call it lover?
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@Crocodile
I claim Lovers
Were ar MYLO you should probably out your lover
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@Speedrace
It has to be Croc, Chris is inno
why did you visit chris? Why not investigate me, since you were voting me last phase?
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One of the two scum on the lynch had to be skittlez or greyparrot based on results. Misterchris not visiting anyone looks good, I know I am town, danielle also confirms me, whiteflame claimed the results, and he's too new to pull something like that off as scum, danielle is dead, I agree that makes skittlez look sus. Could still be grey.
Both skittlez and grey should claim. Speed or croc is the scum not on the lynch.
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We need the remainder of the claims this phase. No excuses.
Can someone help me update this, I am going off of memory mostly
1. Speedrace
2. MisterChris
3. Crocodile
4. skittlez09
5. Lunatic- deathproof, starts with knowledge of mafia numbers
6. whiteflame- sensor
7. Bearman- Toph tracker
8. Greyparrot- vanilla
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@whiteflame
@BearMan
Huge info guys good job
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MYLO, btw. We mislynch we lose. ML + NK = 3 v 3
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