Lunatic

Actually, my final post of that debate was a little over 25,000 characters :)

Congress and Big Questions were more... meh

Yeah for real. Don't know why he took it so hard. 

He just unfriended me, lol

Someone should look into Lunatic's quotes in case they mean something. 

Can we let this go, it is something of the past. If you got modkilled, that is it, you either stop talking like that or you tell the mods later that "bad language" warrants for no modkill.

Supa was speaking to gameplay in both those instances.

Yeah they all had the same fundamental issue which I addressed to Bearman. For your insults I issued a warning, not a modkill. The modkill was for multiple reasons including that one, the chief reason being outside game talk.

I'm also speaking to your interaction with other players. I read every post in every game I'm in and every game I mod, I've never had the reaction I had when I saw you call bear a cunt. It didn't have to be a big deal until you talked about the game in RM's thread. All you had to do was not call anybody a cunt.

Well it's my memory vs yours then, since there's no text record.

I'll believe you if you believe me when I say that I don't have a vendetta against you and would never let pride cloud my modding decisions.

Like I said I wasn't even insulted I can't possibly be offended. When you called bear a cunt u didn't know he was gonna be cool with it. If this was someone else's game and we were both in it, and u called me a cunt, I'd be like "that's uncalled for but ok." But his is my game, my rules, you don't insult someone like that.

IMO "cunt" is worse than "fuck" but can still be said, unlike the n-word. I know it's no big deal to say cunt in australia but I'm pretty sure everyone in this game is American.

When I played on DDO the user 1harder called me an asshole and said my behaviour in game directly decreased the enjoyment of at least 1 other player. I never even called him a cunt, the furthest I go is call people bad/stupid players, which is the same line I draw in my games. I've toned it down since then and this is why I enforce the rule.

How many more times do I have to explain to you it's different to insulting game play and calling someone a cunt?

I have literally responded to them in this very thread.

Perhaps, but I'm honestly speaking to the fact my experience with you has never been this bad.

That doesn't contradict anything I said, as mod I care about what happens in the game, not what happens outside of it.

So you expected everyone to refer to a list of rules you made for a game 5 years ago?

No, it's the exact opposite, I don't expect anyone to refer to that ruleset. 5 years of no one breaking rules has lead me to believe they don't need to.

Our version of events are different then because I definitely remember you directly saying "no" to talking about politics.

That's wrong. You and Danielle are like the only players from when I first started playing on DDO, you've got history here and I have always respected you as a player, even back on DDO I some times deferred to you on mod actions and practices, and on DART I always ping you for my games. I have always been serious about game integrity. I always randomize roles unlike some mods on DDO and I've gotten into arguments with other mods over it.

Look, if you think my insults rule is stupid then ok, but I can't have you leaving this thinking I'm being prideful or have a vendetta against you.

I just explained to u why it's different, it's cause you insulted him personally rather than his game play.

This is also the 2nd time you brought up the pride thing. In all out discord convos what have I ever done that made you think I was prideful? After I lose a live game I don't say "I told you so" to the town and I don't blame my scumbuddies. You're projecting. The fact you go out of your way break more rules after I warned you is a prideful action.

yeah it is, or at least you've gotten worse. I've played many games with you over the years, never had a problem. I don't know exactly what went down in your PM with That1, and like you said you apologized, and for the record I was on YOUR side with the drafter thing. I expected you to say "cool" and move on, like the couple of other players I gave warnings to, but YOU can't swallow your pride.

In my last game Poker mafia, I gauged the player pool whether they wanted RM in or not, because RM had a history of negative influences in games. It makes no sense you keep calling me a "snowflake" because you didn't even insult me. Like I said to bearman mafia rules are stricter because the players committed to play and are forced in interact with eachother, unlike on the website in general. You have now had a negative streak in games and it's my job to nip it. All you had to do was not call other players cunt.

So? my rules haven't changed in 5 years and no one had broken them in 5 years.

No, you were definitely against him talking about it, and he was specifically mad that he couldn't talk about it because of 1 other person. And the result was he left, then came back and agreed to not talk about politics.

Doesn't matter. You don't talk about the game outside the game. What you said could also be meta analyzed to mean you and Bear weren't faking the argument.

He didn't call someone a cunt. Talking shit about people's gameplay is fair, you're just insulting to insult.

This is 100% a you problem. It's recent too. You've played my games, we've played games together, I've never felt that you behaved out of line. And all of a sudden, several games in a row, you blow up on That1User, drafter blocks you, and you get modkilled. If you've got problems in real life don't bring it into a game.

Bear stopped responding to you after that comment. Intel called you out. It was clearly having an impact on my game, I had to at least issue a warning.

I keep the ruleset short because I've never had a game where someone I even felt the need to issue a warning to (other than inactivity). This is my ruleset:

I was talking about the night with Magic and YYW. You were verbally against it when YYW started talking about RBG dying and Magic started to complain. I didn't even disagree with Mikal in the convo in your screenshot, and I didn't threaten to break rules and quit mafia because of the political talk policy we agreed to. Fact is YYW left because you and magic were against talking about RGB. I had to take mod action because I can't exactly leave a game I'm modding. Talking about politics is also completely different from insulting someone personally.

I didn't tell you I was modkilling you, I said you'd be modkilled if you continue to break the rules. You were the one who started the outside game talk. You were the one who literally told me you intend to break the rules "as a matter of principal." There's no excuse to respond to rule breaking by breaking more rules.