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@MisterChris
Him being in the dreamer results won't confirm him.
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This will narrow the dreamer results down for investigators tonight. We should definitely be lynching oro right now.
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@Speedrace
We have 2 minutes
If you and warren add your votes it will secure us a lynch. We no lynched dp1 so we can afford this if we are wrong.
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@warren42
I don't believe pie, but day phase is about to end, and oro not explaining his role, and there being like 5 investigation roles makes him as good a target as any when factoring in the dreamer results. Care to help put him at l-1?
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@Speedrace
He literally got recruited by a Neighborizer lol
You yourself just said that means nothing. Post 682
If you think we have the time to lynch pie I am down.
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POE tells us the Neighborizor is speed or Bear. Pretty easy to guess which based on interactions.
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Unofficial Vote Count
oro (4/6) - Lunatic, Supa, chris, pie
Intel (1/6) - oro,
Lunatic (1/6) - Speed,
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Not sure what to do here. If I was a governor, I would lynch pie right now. His behavior feels off to me, and his soft claim kind of a stretch. Though I kind of buy the soft claim mainly because I was super confused when he was first posting that. The fact that pie is acting like he cares about getting oro's claim when yesterday he was opting for a no lynch seems like an appeal for town cred, or going with the status qou. I think his primary goal was not to be lynched this phase, so the no lynch was optimal.
I realize I'm not going to be able to get a lynch on pie today however.
I have no clue what an inactive cop is. Oro needs to explain that because I also claimed cop and tracker, and supa has a dreamer and a watcher. Danielle was a weak rolecop. There's tons of investigation roles here, and I naturally suspect more of them at this point.
But if oro isn't gonna explain how his role works when the day phase is about to end, we should probably lynch him.
Also oro said his role had something to do with recruitment, and inactive cop doesn't sound like it has anything to do with recruitment. Plus he was asking me and danielle yesterday if we thought there was a recruitment thing because of the NP0 situation.
Oro is probably a safe lynch today, because I doubt we can get votes for anyone else at this point, and he has a weak role anyway.
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@Vader
If you do, save it tonight and use it on me NP3. We will get an extra investigative
I unfortunately cannot save it now. I have to use it randomly on myself or you. Maybe I will save it. I'll leave the mafia guessing.
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@BearMan
You guys had no reason to lynch Pie, I on the other hand had reason to be sus about him, and moreover him being in that dream thing makes me more suspicious of him.
What do you mean no reason lol I bet you didn't bother to read any of my case on pie earlier haha.
Just because you suspected us doesn't mean you had the right amount of town cred to do it. You were awful in that game as you were still pretending to be a noob.
I had no town cred, I was nearly lynched dp1. I was at l-1 for like 2 hours. Also you are kind of a cvnt nugget are you? I kicked @ss that game, your lil b1tch @ss rage quit lol
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@BearMan
Just because I thought Pie was sus doesn't mean i was trying to get him lynched.
you said you "proved" it
Last time in Naruto Mafia I could've easily got you mislynched because you were pretending to be new, and you were also sus asf.
I suspected both you and pie, I'd say I played a pretty good town game there.
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@BearMan
Yeah I already had suspicions on Pie, fool.#36 #37 #38
Then why did you ask why people were voting pie in the post I linked?
You, Pie, and Warren are sus asf. If you are scum, Pie probably isn't. If Pie is scum you probably aren't.
I remember last time as scum in naruto, you were also this touchy when someone pointed out an inconsistency of yours.
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@BearMan
Your last post about pie before revoting him
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@ILikePie5
I still don’t know why you’re sussing me. I literally told you my role is confirmable tomorrow and if it doesn’t work out then lynch me.
Your claim is conveniently made so that we don't lynch you this day phase. If there is a recruiter, and I was him, I would be doing the same thing. It's not a motivator I don't buy, just that you are motivator that is for dp2 and 4, which is extremely convenient if you wanted to live one more day to get another recruit off. If you were a 1 or 2x motivator it would be easier to buy.
That said I will give due dilligence and look into warren and oro here before I decide. First things first, we need remaining claims.
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@BearMan
Yes, power roles are out like you said, so why wouldn't everyone claim?
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@ILikePie5
Yup Danielle has had a rolecop
Pretty sure you are blatantly being manipulative here, but in the off chance you are serious, please re-read her role.
You said you didn’t have to and the only reason you did is so we don’t sus later
Yeah and?
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@MisterChris
No, he is actually defending you here.
ELI5
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@oromagi
I don't buy pie's claim, and I think we will be shooting ourselves in the foot by not lynching him. If there is a recruit mechanic and it's pie (notice how observant he was in remembering oro's role indicated a recruiter) and it's extremely convenient that his role is even day phase, he didn't have to worry about being caught on potential tracker results. With supa having claimed watcher already he knew he was probably safest to claim a day role. It goes without saying if someone doesn't have two roles tomorrow he should be an instant lynch. I'd still prefer if we could lynch him today though if oro and warren check out. I feel like that isn't going to be likely, or will be more work than I am willing to put in but we will see.
In the mean time, we need full claims from oro, speed, and bearman in that order. I am still going to advocate lynching in the dreamer results today after all claims are out. No reason to hide claims now, power roles are effectively out.
unvote, vtl oro.
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@ILikePie5
You’re admitting you visited the NK?
visiting the same person who was night killed =/= carrying out the night kill.
Superb logic there mate.
And how do these roles “parallel” Supa’s
Tracker/watcher. Soft investigative (dreamer)/ Hard investigative (cop) . Suicidal/ doctor.
Our roles were designed as a perfect puzzle piece.
Just like how he didn’t have to claim JOAT right?
Are you suggesting I shouldn't have claimed after someone else claimed JOAT?
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Where did oro claim? How does pie know hes a visiting role? Did I miss his claim?
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@oromagi
Your the last on the dreamer results. Your turn
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How do we know he visited a power role that can confirm him?
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My abilities are tracker (used on danielle np1, she visited supadudz) cop and doctor.
I'll analyze pies claim on my way home from work. Brb 45-1 hour drive
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@ILikePie5
Read my post. If you want me to claim then you’re gonna have to claim at the same time as me. Set up a time to do so.
Just claim. I'll claim after. You already know I am a JOAT you haven't given anything but character
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Bout to head home from work. Pie needs to have claimed by then. There is no consequence as he's pointed out.
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@Speedrace
For JOATS, you don't even know Pie's role lol
Why wouldn't the rule be universal? Also if he can't be roleblocked or stopped why shouldn't he full claim now?
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@Speedrace
What do you mean that's not how he mods?
I explained it in the post you just qouted mate. He takes roleblocking serious, if you are blocked you lose your action.
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@BearMan
To be fair, pretty sure you never posted those thoughts about pie prior to that post
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@ILikePie5
Okay so Bullish just told me that I can’t be roleblocked and my action will go through even if I get lynched this day phase. In an essence, I’ll get confirmed no matter what happens.So now it’s just a matter of surviving for me and I’ll be confirmed town.
First of all, that's not how bullish mods, so you basically just confirmed yourself as scum. I just had a mini talk with him about modding actions after asking him if my abilities are lost when used (he said yes, and supa also got confirmation of this). In the discussion he brought up how he thought the way I modded a game in the live mafia discord last night was a "bruh" moment because warren retained a 1x ability after using it.
All of this aside, this revelation means you literally have no reason not to claim now. Do us all a favor and comply.
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@ILikePie5
Oh you are back good. Ready to claim so we can move forward with the day phase?
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@warren42
@skittlez09
@BearMan
@Intelligence_06
Time to vote pie. He still isn't claiming.
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@Speedrace
PB only works is Bullish defines technology as broadly as possible
Are you trying to convince us or yourself at this point? lol
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@Speedrace
Thats what misterchris said in 527. There ya go.
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@Speedrace
Ctrl + f type in technology and find a qoute yourself. Not at the computer for another 30 minutes or so. I saw it when I linked you though
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@Vader
I asked too because I wasn't sure either, plus with my role in mind I thought I ask you as well
I just asked. He said no. If I use an ability and am blocked its just gone
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@Speedrace
No, because almost all of those are in the citations. Again, it's quite literally defined as an ECONOMIC concept. Technology and planned obsolescence aren't even in the same sentence in that source except once
The wiki confirms what both oro and misterchris are saying, that it plays a huge role in technology. Your refusal to see it is beyond scummy.
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@Vader
Since we have potentially 2 role blockers this game if Skittlez and Intel are telling the truth, I am going to ask. Do you get your ability back if you RB? Idk if I do so I want to ask you
I asked the mod, I will let you know when he answers.
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@Vader
It isn't your misunderstanding of what it is, not wanting to loosen your definition of what it is you being detrimental and anti town.
Exactly. He's got a narrative to push, and he's gonna push it hard and not back off of it, just like in BAMF mafia. He is literally pushing reads that are very similar. Most of his "gut" read on me is "LuNaTiC hAs GaMbItEd In ThE pAsT" which was the exact thing he pushed me for in BAMF mafia, knowing I was town. I think us focusing pie forced his hand, and he thinks mislynching us will be much easier. Notice how he also wanted to pressure pie earlier, but now has no worries about him whatsoever. He's totally willing to buy that pie can confirm himself tomorrow but absolutely won't buy it from me. We've forced his hand. This is the definition of speed as scum.
Regardless, we still need to lynch pie first.
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If we manage to lynch scum today, I am pretty sure speed is also mafia. His behavioral seems very similar to BAMF mafia. Lot's of logic leaps, very stubbornly pushes poor logic.
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@warren42
Supa has dreamer results that one of you, pie or oromagi is scum. Who do you think it is if it's not you?
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@Speedrace
Case on Supa:1. He waits a whole day to claim his dreamer results. Last time Supa got an investigative result, he claimed the results INSTANTLY (when he copped Lunatic in the game Luna pretended to be a TP-lyncher in)Pie and warren were the topic of the day's lynch from the beginning, why out if he doesn't have to?You were the topic of the day's lynch in that game and he still outed his results. Try again
What game?! I am talking about this game. Are you currently drunk, high or both?
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@Speedrace
The word technology pops us multiple times in the wiki article. It definitely plays a role in technology as a concept.
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@MisterChris
I will probably make a more substantial post on this later, but more and more I think Pie is probably town, and Lunatic & Supa are also town.That would leave Warren and Oromagi on that list. Oromagi seems town to me too.Ergo, I think Warren is a pretty good scum candidate.
I am not opposed to lynching warren, I am 100% lynching in the dreamer results this phase. But I think getting a claim from pie would be a huge step in helping us make a decision. Pie has been implicated by results and behavior, and refuses to claim. I have publicly said I will claim my abilities if pie claims, even though I think it's kind of dumb and the root of people's suspicion doesn't have anything to do with the abilities. That said, we can decide if we believe pie's role, and if we do, we focus on either oro or warren.
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@Speedrace
REFUTING SPEEDS LACKLUSTER CASE
Case on Luna:
1. He conveniently claims JOAT right after Supa but doesn't CC him
What's convienent about it? I didn't want to power role claim, and now I have. The claim has not served me in the slightest.
2. He claims his roles fit "like a puzzle piece" with Supa's, yet refuses to claim them
Your willing to take pie's word for him being able to prove himself next DP, but not mine that my role matches supa. Why does pie get special privilege? Why are you ignoring your previous scum read on him?
3. Says he has a bad character-role justification, despite Bullish saying that all characters and roles are linked
It's not bad, it doesn't exist. Take it up with bullish. As scum I am definitely capable of making a believable justification.
4. He claims that there are no other PRs besides the fact that a lot of people have yet to claim
I invite them to claim a power role. It will be proved that they are wrong one way or the other, if I get mislynched you will see. Or if you guys believe me and lynch in the dreamer results you will also see.
Case on Supa:1. He waits a whole day to claim his dreamer results. Last time Supa got an investigative result, he claimed the results INSTANTLY (when he copped Lunatic in the game Luna pretended to be a TP-lyncher in)
Pie and warren were the topic of the day's lynch from the beginning, why out if he doesn't have to?
2. He claims a character that does NOT relate to technology
False, techological concepts relates to technology, the world technological is in the damn name. The cloud is technically a concept too.
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I've found 2 games with two town joat's on basically my first like 10 clicks through the archive
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@ILikePie5
@Speedrace
Another game with 2 JOAT's:
Royalpaladin, the mod literally said this: On top of this, there were two JOATs. I fully expected one of them to be lynched through a counterclaim.
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