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@Vader
The town loss isnt on me homie but your welcome to try and prove how
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If press had a result on you at lylo or mylo I probably would have been skeptical
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@Speedrace
Sounds like he made that mechanic up then. Thats a mechanic max should have known from the beginning.
Whateva gg
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@airmax1227
Did you know your hated town didnt apply during lylo? If so why didnt you say anything?
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@Speedrace
Well thats on airmax for not telling us that lol. If max didn't know that then thats bastard modding
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@Speedrace
Why didnt you just vote max off the start lol? If your actually scum you already won last dp
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@Speedrace
Smart man. Yep max got cornered this one. Vtl airmax.
Good job as scum max you played well. Your fake claim was good but got you cornered here. Gg
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@Speedrace
Max has to be scum. Im just voting him and unvoting him to show you. Max claims hated townie so 1 vote and hes dead. Mafia would have just instantly voted him to win the game. Neither you or me did that upon entering the day phase. If the day phase isnt over when warren acknowledges the vote count max is confirmed scum.
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@Speedrace
Dude max has gotta be scum then. I know I am town. You didnt hammer max which makes 0 sense if you are mafia. So we really dont even need to wait for airmax. I'm gonns vote him and unvote him real quick to prove it. When the day phase doesnt end you'll see max is scum.
Vtl airmax
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@Speedrace
@airmax1227
Acknowledge the day phases existence. no votes.
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@Greyparrot
@Speedrace
Guys if the game doesn't end after this, max is confirmed scum lol. I was gonna wait until next DP to reveal this, but I think it's too late anyway.
Max is hated townie, so in a lylo he only takes one vote to lynch. If he is town, all mafia need to do is kill literally anyone else but him, and it's an auto win. Wouldn't even make sense for the mod to make another day phase, since the mafia's one vote would be enough to end the game, might as well just skip to the endgame. So if the game doesn't end after this, Max is basically confirmed scum.
The only potential flaw in this theory is if the mod for some reason decides to still post the next DP just to make it official, I don't know why warren would do that, but for the sake of WIFOM'ing mod psyche, let's consider he does this. If airmax is alive give it 24 hours before voting. If he is town, mafia will just vtl him instantly and we lose (which is why I said we might be f'ed). If no one votes him in 24 hours, it will confirm he is the last scum, there's no reason for mafia to wait it out, and everyone will have had a chance to see the day phase after 24. We can make it less than 24 hours if every living player posts at least once before that acknowledging they are aware of the DP.
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If the last mafia is smart, unfortunately one of max or speed dies tonight. If greyparrot is smart and doesn't instavote next phase, then that might not matter as much.
Greyparrot, please, be smart about this.
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If I die tonight, tomorrow last scum should be obvious. If no one votes for the first 24 hours, last mafia should be obvious. Won't explain now, but just think about it, and you will hopefully know what I am talking about.
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@Greyparrot
I know you think I am scum. I am not. I don't expect you to be convinced. But IF you survive tomorrow, I ask you to please not instantly place your vote on me. Even if you think I am guaranteed scum. I have a plan that should reveal who the last scum is, and even if I die tonight I think it will be apparent, but it requires no one voting for at least the first 24 hours of next day phase. If even a tiny part of you thinks you are wrong about me being mafia, I beg you to heed this request.
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@airmax1227
I didn't really expect you to defend yourself from that, my musings are mostly based on guess-work, and could easily be wrong. My inexperience in playing with speed is also a factor, as well as my suspicions due to your claim.
I understand that speed is entirely capable of the same ability to choose night kills wisely.
I'll try to make a case on every player for being scum, and weigh which is heaviest, and factor in other's reads as well if we make it to LYLO.
Also if I make it to next day phase, I think I have a plan.
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The way the night kills have been set up also really make me think max is scum. Mafia has been smart and calculative with who they are keeping alive, knowing who will vote who, and who is likely to be mis-lynched in the final DP'es. Max is 100% smart enough to have made these decisions. I guess speedrace could be too, I just don't have enough experience with him to know how he plays. But I know max is diabolical, I remember being impressed with his mafia plays in live mafia, and I believe he is undefeated in live as mafia because of how calculating he is.
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I feel like town lost this when the Drafter/wylted/GP tunnel team formed in DP3. Since then half the players decided to just stop trying and automatically wrote me off as scum, and mafia has been able to roll over us. There's no careful reasoning or deduction any more and no one wants to try lol
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@Speedrace
Regardless, mafia have an advantage at LYLO if greyparrot is town and they don't kill him. Pretty much an auto win for them lol. A Lylo between you me and max would be optimal, since we can figure out who scum is by careful decision making. Somehow doubt that is going to happen. :/ But it's not gonna be better in MYLO I guess.
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Just thought about something. If greyparrot is town both of us survive tonight, and he does what he has done every day and just auto votes me, mafia can hammer me and insta win next DP. So if that happens, then mafia probably already won. If votes me and I don't get insta hammered, by max or speed it means GP is scum.
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I feel like 60% sure max is the last scum. Speedrace could be playing me for the fool lol. If i make it to LYLO I'll put aside my bias for max though and see who makes the best case.
I guess GP could be scum but i predict he dies tonight
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@Speedrace
Air would be scummy to disagree. Vtnl is the smartest option.
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@Greyparrot
If I was scum and purposely "leading mislynches" you still couldnt blame just me. The fact that you give me responsibility for every mislynch is a joke. Other people have been on board every single lynch homie. You can pin it all on me if you want but its laughable.
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@Speedrace
VTNL isnt a horrible idea. Judging in the last few DPs I dont think we'll get a whole lot of talk. A lylo decision gives us better odds than mylo.
I still feel like airmax is likely scum but I want to be careful.
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UVC
Lunatic- 2/5- Greyparrot, A-R-O-S-E
A-R-O-S-E- 3/5- Lunatic, Airmax1227, speedrace
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Lol AROSE ive been the prime lynch target for 3 day phases. The only reason im not dead is because of inactivity.
I will get mis lynched today, then you guys are on your final mylo lynch. Hope you get it right.
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@Speedrace
Arose's general behavior has been pretty bad/ scummy this whole game, flip flopping votes, bandwagoning, etc. I decided he's not one that should get a free pass for it anymore. And his call out to ormagi voting me last phase looks scummy as fvck.
Can't speak for airmax.
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Well. I'm bored. No one is posting. Kind of tired of being 90% of towns activity. I'm just gonna sheep the rest of the game. Your turn guys.
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@Speedrace
I don't know how to measure these lynches, all of my reads can be shown to be WIFOM. The strongest read behaviorally I have against max is his character claim not fitting in, and his interesting voting tendencies. I think there is a high probability max could be scum but I am also moire likely to be wrong then right on any of these.I agree. But do we value quality (airmax) over quanity (grey)?
Grey knows his behavior is detrimental, and I keep giving him free passes because he always plays this way. But truth is if I was town in dark crystal I would have given him the same passes. I am not advocating for a policy type of lynch, but grey's behavior is a problem and he's not gonna be helpful in a LYLO situation.
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@Greyparrot
I'm not opposed to 1v1 you.If town agrees to 1v1 me and luna i'll lynch myself.
Sure I'll say I'll 1 v 1 you if it makes you feel better about dying.
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Your wrong, max thinks I am town.The smart move is to POE Luna for lynching Drafter, but the only sane person that sees this is Airmax.
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@oromagi
@Speedrace
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@A-R-O-S-E
@airmax1227
Well we got three tries. Good chance scum is between GP arose and max. I am not opposed to lynching GP since he shows no town motivation by blatant tunneling and misrepresenting facts.
Thoughts?
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Post 435 page 18 dp1. Drafter was the 6th vote on SA. Greyparrot your so tunneled in on me that your intentionally misremembering facts.
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@Greyparrot
Drafter didn't lead either of the scum lynches. SirAnon was at 4/7 when drafter jumped on if i remember correctly. I can double check.
Drafter didn't jump on the supa wagon until supa had scum slipped and even cast doubt on the supa lynch a few posts before he joined it. Ive brought this up multiple times and you ignore it.
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