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@drafterman
You are lying about me lying. I've logically destroyed you at every turn and will continue to do so until time expires if I have to. You keep dodging evading, and hoping people forget. Your just lucky most of town is too lazy to read into any of your crap. Boy I really miss the old mafia players. You can easily get away with all of this because the majority of players in this game are noobs.
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@PressF4Respect
Press what are your thoughts on who is scum and why?
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Can you substantiate these lies, or you just gonna keep posting one liners, dis-appearing for a bit, post another unsubstantiated one liner, dis-apppear, rinse and repeat?Lunatic, can you explain how any explanation that paints you as Town accounts for all your lying?
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@drafterman
Instead of just saying everything is a lie, why not substantiate something. I'd actually be getting angry with you if I didn't think you are scum. I will be pretty angry with you if you turn out to be town.
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@drafterman
Drafterman is scum, ergo lynch airmax!Makes sense to me!
another example of you mis-representing me. You being my strongest scum read doesn't mean I think I couldn't be wrong. I haven't been playing in absolutes. you have and are.
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@drafterman
You said I am redirecting a lynch to another townie. How do you know airmax is town?
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NONE of draftermans logic makes sense. And eventually he just stops responding when he doesn't have an answer for something you call him out for. It really feels like he is just scum giving up. Drafter is smarter than this. The fact that he is unwilling to even look at another lynch option (is not only hypocritical), demonstrates he wants this either/or situation because it means he dies faster, and doesn't have to play a losing game for longer.
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There can only be one god father. And they didn't see fit to either kill Press OR roleblock him NP1, when there were two mafia.The reason is clear: Supa wasn't lying when he suggested press was PGO, he actually believed it which colored their actions. They figured he was PGO, or was bomb, or would be watched or protected.
So because they potentially didn't want to risk getting killed or watched, your saying its impossible for mafia to have a godfather or lawyer? Makes no sense.
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@Speedrace
I know lol... I was making a point to drafter because he is assuming max is town confirmed from that result.
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@drafterman
What's a godfather do?If press's cop claim is true, the fact that he's still alive, shows the remaining mafia isn't worried about him. Last mafia is likely godfather or lawyer, results probably don't mean much now.
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If press's cop claim is true, the fact that he's still alive, shows the remaining mafia isn't worried about him. Last mafia is likely godfather or lawyer, results probably don't mean much now.
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This kind of blanket statement is un-becoming. Tell people why I am wrong. Tell people why you think max is town.Wow. Lunatic has not only derailed the lynch on himself, but is now convincing people to mislynch another town.
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@Greyparrot
So given the fact that both me and drafter are unlikely to be lynched this DP, are you willing to look into airmax as an alternative?Hated townie seems similar to a miller role. You wouldn't want to claim that role too late in the game.
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@Speedrace
Yeah I saw. I'm not MAD at it, and I trust you enough both in this game and in general as a player to follow you based on your experience with him, don't think I've even spoken to him outside of this gameIt's certainly not strong though
You know I'd much prefer to lynch drafter. But I'm trying to be realistic and productive. With everyone where we are at right now, the decision on me and drafter is pretty split. With you unvoting and oromagi wanting a no lynch, I doubt either of us will be lynched. Airmax town reads both of us, that leaves just pressF, who isn't opining for some reason. 2 of the four of you would need to make a decision on one of us and that doesn't look like it's going to happen.
So I'm trying to find an alternative from the undecided voters, see if one of my other reads can work with you guys. My read on max started townie, but the more I have thought about his actions, the more I am leaning scum.
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Drafter I await refuting your megapost. I have substantiated every statement with qoutes and links.
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@Speedrace
Yeah we would be lynching him. I gave reasons for this.
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@PressF4Respect
No Im not saying people hate his claim. His claim is "hated townie" which means he takes one less vote to lynch.
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@drafterman
Hey drafterman, if you are town, do I have permission in the endgame to give you the same lecture you gave me in 5D's about being totally unwilling to see yourself as wrong? That game stayed with me and resonated with me as a teaching moment, kinda ironic now that you are the one acting that way. If you are mafia you get a pass.
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Drafterman also trying to point me out as the only one being wrong, is mis-leading. Yes, I started the lynch, and tried convincing people to follow me but it was their decisions to follow me. I probably could have been swayed off the AROSE vote with even minimal effort on his part to sway me or someone offering up a better alternative. This whole game the only ones trying to actually lead a lynch for their own reasons have been you or me.
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@oromagi
He was probably also talking to his dead teamates.
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@drafterman
Town are wrong sometimes. We don't have inside information, we don't know anything with 100% certainty.
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Town or scum, drafter being unwilling to look into any other options as potential scum, means he pretty much deserves to die.. If he's this dead set that I am scum over practically nothing... Well I think he just wants to be put out of his misery.
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@drafterman
So you are that 100% convinced it is me over the very little evidence you have posted eh? And if I die and am town who do you suspect?
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@drafterman
AROSE was never lynched, so that's not necessarily true. And under the assumption that was a bus to earn you town cred, it doesn't prove anything.Well, if DP1 is any indication, my weak cases are better than Lunatics.
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@drafterman
How dead set are you on the you vs me thing? I've already said I am not, even though I have a behaviorally read on you. I've got other reads though, maybe one of them aligns with yours. What do you think about testing airmax's hated claim? He has barely posted anything which doesn't seem like him. He has 0 scum reads. His only read has been SA DP1, and his read was that he thought his role indicated that SA was scum because of scranton VS non scranton. Not only was he wrong about the theme but that wasn't even SA's real role. I don't see how that convinced him of the lynch. Also his reads seem lazy, and he doesn't have a whole lot of reason not to be posting. It's his weekend I know he has time to read this.
The fact that press is still alive means scum aren't worried about cop results. Final scum is probably godfather, which makes airmax's innocent result seem less convincing now that I think about it. I definitely think airmax is smart enough have thought of toby being hated townie as a fake claim. Also isn't Toby one of the only claimed characters that isn't part of the core office group because he is in human resources? the rest of the known town claims including yours seem to be under Michael.
I am totally willing to look into other options, but you are forcing my hand because your case feels like OMGUS I don't know you too OMGUS.
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@oromagi
@PressF4Respect
UVC
Lunatic- 3/5- drafter, wylted, GreyParrot
Drafter- 3/5- Lunatic, arose, Speed
AROSE- 1/5 - oromagi
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@airmax1227
Where are you? You should have had more than enough time to catch up by now. 3 posts from you so far and no suspicions?
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@Greyparrot
It doesn't work just at mylo. When that happened two mafia were down and you were the only 1 left. You jeeded 3 mislynches to win and arose was already one of them. That logic got speed and supa killed and won you the game.
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@drafterman
Ignoring our little battle for a moment, what do you think about this "either/or" situation GP is claiming to be okay with considering what went down in dark crystal?
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Greyparrot do you not remember how that logic helped you when you were scum in dark crystal mafia dp3? The whole speed vs supa dichotomy? One or the other is scum. We lynch one and if hes town lynch the other. It made so sense and ultimately helped you as mafia in the end. I'm beginning to be a little concerned about your motives here given what happened in that game.
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@Greyparrot
Thanks for the un-supported statements all game. You really do nothing for your team.
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@Greyparrot
Statements like this are void of reasoning, and reflect on you as a poor mafia player. Something I already knew though coming into this,
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@Greyparrot
Greyparrot that's false and you know it. I can't believe your feeding yourself that line as if it's true.
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@Speedrace
Well wylted maybe, but definitely not drafter. Especially not drafter. In fact drafter was the reason I don't like to tunnel like that and go in with 100% scum predictions.
If you get a chance to read through this endgame from 7 years ago, this was actually a big debate I got in with him. I was so tunneled in on him in the previous DP's because the mason recruited died after recruiting drafterman. I was very convinced he was scum. I was wrong in the end, and drafter made a point of it in the endgame by bringing up how unwilling I was to admit I could have been wrong about the read. I later apologized to him in PM and admitted I was wrong, and I use that game as a lesson on considering other options.
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@Greyparrot
Greyparrot you can't be serious! I made a huge case on drafter, just linked it again. I have stated my reasons for the reads on the other two, but they aren't strong scum reads, why would I "make a case" for lynching either of them?
I know you won't respond, because that's what you do; you cop out when you are proven wrong. But seriously think about what you just said. You are demonstrating tunnel vision.
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Also I want to re-iterate the fact that just because me and drafter scum read each other and happen to have the biggest wagons, doesn't mean that it's an either or situation. Town did this in dark crystal DP3 with supa and speed. If you have an opinion, make a case for it and own it! My strongest scum read is drafter, and if I die this DP, yeah I'd like you to take my case and reads with a grain of salt. But if I'm wrong i'm not gonna be going into the DP arguing that drafter couldn't have been anything other than scum, just that I thought there was sufficient enough reason to think he was based on his behavior.
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@airmax1227
Please read this if you get a second.
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@drafterman
And?
Speed asked if I thought you double bussed, I am showing him you didn't until it was out of necessity.
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@Speedrace
Drafter DP2:
I have some issues with the Supa lynch but I can’t get into right now.
Never got into them.
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Drafters vote on supa occured after supa scum slipped. It doesn't qualify as a bus. I pointed out earlier that he was doubting the supa lynch before that.You think drafter double bussed?
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@airmax1227
Your not forced to choose anything. If you can build a convincing case on a different person do it. I'm a bit surprised you haven't yet if you are town.
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