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Just woke up from a much needa coma nap. Any gonna help my lynch drafter yet?
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@oromagi
I was playing games with him yesterday he said he was going to post last night but never did...
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Have you ever sent a nude or inappropriate picture to the wrong person?
I saw this question asked on facebook and there was some hilarious stories. Wondering if you all got any.
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@Speedrace

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UVC

Lunatic- 3/5- Drafterman, wylted, AROSE,
Drafterman-1/5-lunatic

Yeah I guess greyparrot never revoted.

AIRMAX come whoop some reason into these guys asses. For the love of jesus. 
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Actually Ima double check but I think Im at L-1

UVC
 
Lunatic- 4/5- drafterman, wylted, greyparrot, AROSE
Drafterman- 1/5- lunatic

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@airmax1227
I needed you homie. You failed me. 
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Sorry warren for the toxicity. I've been up arguing with these brick walls all night, haven't slept.
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Here's where drafters plan finally comes into fruition, now no ones gonna call him out on that bus. He gets to bide his time on this one and get as many free mis-lynches as he wants lol
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Nah wylted your play waa fucking pathetic. You know you were wrong which is why your setting yourself up to justify the fucking dumbass lynch you just pushed. Cant stroke your own ego. Your never wrong or some bullshit. Go fuck yourself dumbass.
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Looks like I got hammered. Well I have no reason to lie now since if I was scum it would be endgame. Y'all were wrong. Dont know what else to say. Lynch drafter. Good luck.
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@Wylted
Lol because you don't scum read drafter theres no way you would lynch him for me mext dp. If that was a plausible option id be more than willing. Also I dont think im getting lynched this dp
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@Greyparrot
First off why are you trying to convince wylted that I'm scum. He already thinks that lol. Second I was playing games with max during the lynch on supa. He con confirm this as I was making the occasional post from my phone. That day phase went by really fast and it was during my weekend. I'm mostly on while at work. 
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Btw I was on supas lynch I was the first person dp2 to suggest lynching him
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@Wylted
Because I'm not mafia

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@Wylted
There is a lot that can go into a win. If your win streak is as good as you say it is you probably got carried a lot. Your expert play isnt showing here.
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@Wylted
Actually I made a more detailed case later on, dude atleast don't be a liar. my case stated the same thing I just stated to you about SA. You should have bussed him instead of stubbornly sticking with your philosophy when his death was imminent anyway
I'm all for bussing as mafia. Prove to me where I said I was against it lol. You make no sense.

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@Greyparrot
The fact that you would offer zero on press shows you don't care about scum hunting.
What's their to read on press? I never said he is confirmed town, but I have a lot more behaviorally on drafter atm. If drafter ends up being town we can look into other options later. Your the one who suspects him. YOU make the case and convince me he is scum, if that is your read. If you think I am scum, then press is town. so what is it?

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@Wylted
Like I said, your analysis is shitty, because you have to use fallacies, because you are scum and the truth is inconvenient for you. Here is why I almost always win, whether scum or town. It is because even as scum I still usually stick to the truth. If I am scum making that sort of analysis it would be logically consistent with no fallacies, but you are weak as scum and combined with your philosophical stance against bussing and not being on two very obvious scum lynches, we know for a fact what your affiliation is
You make no sense. You didn't point out logical fallacies. You just said everything's "retarded" because you have your mind made up. And wtf are you talking about my philosophical stance against bussing?

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SA was obvious scum. I stated that myself on DP1, you have a reputation for being against bussing and just because one person you view as scummy doesn't mean you lynch them yet. Why the hell should we have lynched you before supa and SA?
I don't have a reputation for being against bussing? Drafter kept saying I was derailing the lynch, and saying it was scummy. If derailing the lynch was so scummy why not lynch me when he himself admits the case on him was weak? SA being obvious scum wasn't as apparent to drafter as it was to you by his own omission. 

No, the scum team did not pick up on that, and it is retarded. If the scum team picked up on that, they would have allowed pie to live. Pie is poor at reading players and would have likely misused his abilities. 
Who knows, could be wrong on that, but it was convenient. 
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Actually Supa only joined the wagon when it already had enough votes, so it was obviously a ploy to get town cred for helping a lynch he had nothing to do with. He was on the scum preferred lynch most of the time.
Supa was actually originally on the SA wagon. He switched to AROSE briefly then switched back. It was planned to bus him all along. 

Another retarded statement. It makes more sense for him to save you until lylo or mylo if this logic is true, because by this logic we should lynch him if you flip town, meaning he just lost the game by pushing your lynch too soon
If drafter is town the statement "one of me or lunatic has to be scum" doesn't even make sense since he would know he is town. He's literally just saying that to paint that dichotomy of me being scummy for being alive when he chooses not to kill me.
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Retarded, it would have been better if drafter pretended to be offline and just let the lynch fail, not to mention you would have to be a real shitty player to not see what was blatently clear, which is that SA was obvious scum.
You are the last player on earth I'd be taking seriously when it comes to opinions about "shitty" mafia players lol. But under the idea that drafter was mafia bussing his team mate, it would look really good for him to lead that lynch. He constantly tried mentioning it as a reason for his own town cred. How would he have known he would be right about that? He himself doubted the read early on. In that regard your read on SA made more sense then drafters. Drafter admitted the case on SA was weak, and nothing SA did changed, but his wagon on SA only got stronger as the day phase went on. 

It is of value, when you have 2 competitive lynches, one which is on a clearly scum player and one that is on a town player, then it is valuable to see who was pushing for the preferred lynch of the scum team. Most lynch wagons are kinda useless but not in these rare circumstances. I think the mafia scum wiki discusses the importance of analyzing competing wagons as well. in their strategy guide
This is why in most live mafia games, scum who bus almost constantly win. No one ever doubts the person who led the lynch on the mafia. As mafia, bussing seems to be almost unbeatable because of people like you who dis-regard it as a common thing.

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This is stupid. No experienced town member is this stupid. What is important is an independent analysis of SA, not whether we lynch scum quickly or slowly. Not to mention I think I have seen charts showing quick dp 1 lynches tend to be more accurate than the slower ones
Charts eh? Feel free to cite them. The lynch on SA was ill supported, regardless of SA's flip. Drafter manufactured it for town cred. Sad thing is, if we don't lynch him now, most of you will fall for his ploy hook line and sinker. 

No the strongest reason to lynch was he was displaying the following scum tells; Breaking up reads instead of scum hunting, speaking in an unnatural and guarded manner, witholding his vote and trying to look too consistent which is a noob scum thing. Town doesn't care about consistincy they care about continually evaluating and updating their reads to be more accurate

What does "breaking up reads" even mean? Unnatural and guarded? You didn't cite examples of that DP1, maybe if you had, I would have felt more comfortable buying your argument. You just tossed out blanket statements. 
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@Wylted
I gave a legitimate case for SA as did others on DP1 and you were even lying then and saying it was nothing but sheep. 

What was your case? 


This post?

Why is it not pro town? DO you have inside knowledge that AROSE is town?


Something seems off about you, and it isn't your newness

unvote VTL Siranonymous


Hopefully this is more pro town in your eyes

lol
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@A-R-O-S-E
You agree with my post 218 here, right?
You mean about the warehouse guys being mafia? Yeah I picked up on that too just now. I've seen some episodes of the show, and vaguely recall their faces from google searches. Who would the 3rd warehouse guy be?

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@Wylted
At a computer now. I can address a few of the retarded logical fallacies you used.
I'm still waiting.

Your read is nonsensical and you are still breaking up reads more than scum hunting.
What do you mean "Breaking up scum reads"? I've got a pretty gnarly case on drafter, I'd consider that scum hunting.

I have seen you intentionally misinterpret things me and drafter have said.

Care to cite examples?

Intentional misinterpretations is a scum tell. Like I said that if you were town you would not fight your lynch this hard because your mindset would be that we could afford a mislynch. 
No one is providing a case to lynch me. You got nothing. I spent all night on a google doc looking into my scum read. There's better lynches than me. You've got literally nothing. 
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@Wylted
This is the same shit you will be saying in the end game. 
If I get lynched, sounds like you will be eating your words. 


 You are breaking up reads, making absurdly long cases filled with logical fallacies and inconsistencies and then asking  people to address your gish gallop.

Feel free to address these logical fallacies and inconsistencies. 

 You shouldn't even be fighting this. You should just concede defeat.
There isn't even a case on me. Not from you or anyone. If I get lynched it's because town was extremely lazy and followed your bad unsupported logic.
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@Greyparrot
What's your case on press? Also you realize there can only be one scum right? So if you think it's me it can't be press....
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@airmax1227
Where are you? I need a voice of reason. You don't need to town read me, but I know you at least will provide a legit reason for whatever read you have. 

What are your thoughts so far on the remaining scum?

I need to calm down. 
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@Wylted
He clearly is not scum hunting, and merely engaging in psychological warfare.
What in the actual fuck are you even talking about? I'm the only one with a serious read in this game. You haven't attacked a thing I said logically. You don't have to try though right? Because of all those free mis-lynches you got like you said earlier? Lazy. If you are town, I actually hope to take a loss on this one and hope mafia beat you. Jesus Fucking Christ. 

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@Greyparrot
The fact that people are buying garbage from the mongoloid that is wylted is fucking beyond ridiculous. Im starting to remember why I dont play mafia these days. The majority of the players are fucking garbage right now. I miss the good players who actually could logically defend their reads. They dont just say something is obvious and get a wagon of fucking noobs.
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@drafterman
Your self proclaimed "wall to text" post in dp1 showed sheep on both sides.
Also I am on mobile too its a ppain.
You can flat out say I'm scum all you want. You dont have a case on me. Your full argument against me being scum is that I didn't tunnel my dp1 read. Seems that would be more of a town read then a scum.

I just hope the rest of town can see through this bs


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Anyone else notice how drafters picking what to defend as far as what is convienent for him? Still not trying to defend the argument against his initial poor read. He keeps tryinf to paint me as a hypocrite for having a wagon that had some sheep on it, as if that's actually what I'm FOSing him for lol
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Anyone else notice how drafters picking what to defend as far as what is convienent for him? Still not trying to defend the argument against his initial poor read. He keeps tryinf to paint me as a hypocrite for having a wagon that had some sheep on it, as if that's actually what I'm FOSing him for lol
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@drafterman
Your the one complaining about sheep. Not me. You didnt seem to mind then help your SA lynch. I'm arguing against the initial reads for the wagon.
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@drafterman

And the entire argument against AROSE was "He play different."
And he refused to participate after being called out for it. Difference in play style is generally pretty gold behavior point to analyze. Better than mod assumptions about a "weak character claim" imo
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@drafterman
I'm not lecturing you about wagon analysis. I'm talking about regular lynching analysis. We establishes most of the players in the game are sheep.
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@drafterman
On the slim chance you are town, I hope this puts to bed this "omg no rushing, use every last second of the day phase emrergerd!" Nonsense. 
While I never said that we have to use every last second of the day phase, your argument is completely invalid in context to this game. If I felt confident enough about SA's lynch, I would have been more than happy to end the phase early. We did that last phase. If you are actually town, you got very lucky on the SA lynch. I think it's more likely that you manufactured that lynch for town cred. However, if we are both town and I'm still willing to debate you on whether rushing lynches is a good idea or not. Or however you want to phrase the resolution. If you actually are town, the lynch on SA still didn't make much sense and was lazy.

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@drafterman
Rushed, as in people were voting with a day and a half left and talking as if we had no other option. 

He's literally lying about his own analysis now.
This is such a manipulative statement that literally dis-regards the bulk of my analysis. This seems sad and desperate.
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I am going back to drafter.There is definitely a bigger argument for drafter being scum right now, he is way more diabolical and calculated. Wylted's behavior is extremely anti-town, but Im not so sure he is capable of pro town plays even as town. 

unvote, VTL drafterman.
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@drafterman
If the speed of Sirs wagon (days)b you, why didn't the speed of AROSE (10 hours)?
I never said the speed of the wagon was an issue. My issue was and always has been the reasons for the lynch. Time was only an element to prove there was enough of it to get a different lynch, a concept that you seemed to be driving into people's heads that there wasn't enough of it. As if steering away from that lynch was going to result us in a no lynch. I proved that wrong, and came pretty close to getting AROSE lynched DP1. While I am glad you ended up bussing your team mate in the end, I definitely think it showed the whole "changing lynch targets mid day phase" isn't impossible. 

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@drafterman

His analysis helped get me over my reservations on lynching Sir. Before that, he was basically sheeping, which gave me pause.
You know, just like all the sheep on your wagon should have given you pause.


Didn't you "big wall o'text" prove that just about the majority of all votes were sheep votes? The sheep votes are bothersome all the way around, the bigger problem was the lack of a real case or reason to lynch SA. You were his biggest advocate and even yourself seemed to have thought the lynch was weak. Nothing about SA's behavior had changed from when you said that to the end of the DP when he ended up being lynched.
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@Speedrace
44 is a defense against my case not an analysis of his. Post 50 can be summed up to "Lunatic is scummy for not tunneling the same person the whole game" which amounts to his entire reason for wanting to lynch me.

The only thing I can think of you mean by 'wall of text' is his response to his reasons for voting SA. The wall of text he refers to isnt a case against SA its literally just a post with timestamps of other people voting. His reasons for the SA lynch were pretty limited/weak. 
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@Speedrace
I was originally going to vote Lunatic based on Drafter's analysis, but now I'm confused. 
I appreciate you not voting me yet, but I do have to ask, what "analysis" of drafters are you referring to?

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@drafterman
Why is wylted town?

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@drafterman
Just curious do you actually have a case to lynch me other than "He voted arose DP1 and now isn't voting him"? That's a pretty weak argument. My choice of voting AROSE was due to the circumstances of his past play not aligning with his current play, and the majority of the people on the SA lynch admitting to thinking the case on him was weak. I found an alternative in AROSE because he was a stronger lynch candidate at the time. I was never 100% confident in him being mafia, and his activity DP2 peaked quite a bit. That said I was still skeptical of him going into DP2, that DP was pretty fast and I never had much of an opportunity to delve into any reads. 

If that is your only reason for wanting to lynch me, I feel that is pretty weak. If you are going to try and lynch me, I'd prefer you at least give something better than that. Especially if I am wrong about you, and you are town. Which I may be, honestly wylted is ringing pretty scummy. 
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@Wylted
I read your analysis. It is shit. If you are around tomorrow still I can point out the intentional logical fallacies. Fallacies that are in actuality beneath you. Sometimes I will mock town players by saying the logic they use is beneath them and feigning a scum tell on them so I can hopefully encourage them to be more rational. You though, I think you are more rational than I am. You commit less fallacies, are more careful with your logic
Fallacies? The majority of my lynch on drafter is suspecting a bus on SA that he makes pretty obvious. He definitely uses that lynch to get town cred, and is pretty strongly advocating it despite admitting it was a weak lynch. Feel free to go over it piece by piece and explain why you think it's wrong, but forgive me for not taking this post seriously. I somehow doubt you actually read the case.

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@Greyparrot
that day phase happened in a day, I was in the middle of a jackbox game with airmax lol. I would have voted him sooner if I was on
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@Greyparrot
I wanted to lynch supa on the first page of DP2
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@drafterman
I know you think Im scum, but assuming I die and am town who do you go after next?
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