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@ILikePie5
That’s bastard lmao. GP didn’t know his role but scum did?
We didn’t. If we did we wouldn’t have waived a night kill and could have won earlier
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@ILikePie5
I think it was winnable for either side tbh
After the earth lynch, the two town mis vigges, we thought the game was a steam role win then bam out of nowhere town gets a revival and literally everyone left living has a confirmable fucking role. Idk man we played the first half to perfection just to get to a point where we for forced to bus and bank on another mistake. Kind of irritating it was lol
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@ILikePie5
You did. I was literally telling Mharman that when we lynched you today, your roleblocker will go away, and we have to solve in Barney/Austin, and I was leaning Austin. Whiteflame was scum but we couldn’t lynch him
Exactly if Barney died literally any point before me I’d be confirmed scum. Not to mention the fact that I’d have to sell the fact that for Barney to be lying they just don’t have any more role blocker shots which is a wierd train of wifom but one I was prepared to lead because I basically didn’t have any other choice. GP was confirmed town based on the crab god, so after I died Austin would be in the POE as the last scum, even if we killed you we would be cooked with basic logic. Austin did point out that greyparrots blind wifom for Barney could outweigh that logic but I didn’t have much hope in that. Boy did I underestimate stupidity.
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@WyIted
town had tons of confirmation bs
lesson learned. If I ever host again I am peppering in more vanillas
I’m not criticizing btw, my last game was a mess. Sometimes things don’t play out the way you expected them to when you set them up. It’s a common mistake I’ve made so I’d be a hypocrite to be mad at you for it lol.
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@Vader
If you survived we would have roleblocked and killed you anyway, but then Barney’s neighborizer would have gone off creating a new set of problems, town had tons of confirmation bs
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@Vader
Did you just waive the NK or did you actually get RB'd?
Waived it, but we wouldn’t have if we knew Whiteflames crab god was a 1x death proof. We had suspected but didn’t know for sure. If we did we could have won earlier by killing that night. 
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@ILikePie5
We knew you were scum. I could talk to all the dead people and Mharman got a story
We were cooked, our last hope was to bank on town idiocy. Which fortunately came through.
I was already debating Austin the million ways in which we were basically game solved with basic logic. Wasn’t even trying to be negative, was legit trying to think of a play we could make and every one I came up with there was a town solve for it. The greyparrot vote was random and unexpected but yeah we should have lost that one with basic logic.
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Current Mafia:

None

Sign ups:

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In the Hopper:

Austin - Debate Mafia
Whiteflame (replacing iLikePie5)
Lunatic- famous people stereotypes
Earth - Tales of Symphonia Mafia
Vader - Sopranos Mafia
Casey Risk - The Russian Mafia 
Mharman - Competitive Pokemon Mafia
ILikePie5 - Bollywood Songs Mafia

On Hold:

None

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Grey parrot = best parrot 
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vtl barney
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@whiteflame
Good boi. Now who is your scum buddies
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Now i have to go find that 5th vote because of mharman. Give me a second. This is how Trump felt in 2020
X'D
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@ILikePie5
Couldn’t GP be scum though?
Sure, but the logic still stands. GP is already voting, I am voting, and everyone else has posted which means either whiteflame is scum, or he is town and its at worst 50%. 


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@Mharman
Just pointing out the obvious logic here, if you are believing there is 3 scum left which it seems you and everyone does, then the fact that whiteflame hasn't been hammered yet should be telling since everyone has been on and posting since my vote, even absent of your recent one. Meaning whiteflame is scum, I am, or we both are. Your odds of hitting town here are at worst 50/50. 
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@whiteflame
As for my reads, I've already said my piece on Luna multiple times in terms of his generally being sitting back this game, but Luna's just coasting through MYLO and sheeping Mharman's is a weird choice even given his previous claim.
What previous claim? I am not just blindly sheeping mharman either, I specifically told him i'd vote for him out of the options that are in the POE, his POE coincides with my POE, other than the fact that I am in it as well. Out of the two of you or barney, I told him I'd be willing to lynch either of you and I have my own reasons for both choices, it's not being blindly made. 

All he has to support him is that there was no NK, and that could just as easily be the result of scum just skipping an NK as it is his use of the Apportioner role. The only reason I can think of for why he should survive this DP is uncertainty about that protection, and I just don't buy it.

Literally there is multiple reasons you could town read me, you and others choose to dismiss it as WIFOM, I can't help that. But from my POV it literally makes no sense to play this game the way I have if scum. All the people who scum read me dp1 are still alive. I also target power roles as scum, and somehow most of the power roles are still living. If I was scum, people like mharman and pie would NOT be alive. Me having a protection that WORKED doesn't even benefit me. I am still one of the highest lynch targets next day phase even if I survive today. There is no end game or goal for me here as scum. All this is to counter your point that the ONLY reason there is to town read me is my role. There is much more but it will be continuously ignored.
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@Mharman
 I make one vote for Whiteflame and suddenly the whole DP roars to life again…
I can't speak for others, but I did tell you last week that I tend to be more active tuesday nights-saturday since it's my work week, and since I can't play video games or do other things really, I have a lot more time to focus on mafia. 

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alright driving to work now, will respond to posts in like an hour if needed
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vtl whiteflame, as per mharm
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@AustinL0926
This reasoning feels really lame, you could easily just say this with you being scum and having WF/Barney as your teammates and have it sound reasonable.
If that's the case then I've been hard bussing my team mates this game for no reason, to not even get me out of the POE.


Like is your reason for scumreading me solely down to POE?
Yes. And I don't think I ever said I scum read you, but I just don't see a world where mharm/pie is scum, GP has been playing to his town meta, so that leaves you wf barney, all who I consider intelligent and smart players and hard to read in general. Most of your behavior for that reason is NAI. Last reason I town read you specifically because you were doing a plethora of things that make literally 0 sense to do as scum unless you had a deathwish. 

Also, beyond just my role, what about my behavior and me correctly calling Vader/Banana town/town D2? 

I remember you attacking the logic that there couldn't be two killing roles, which is logic I also attacked and agreed with. Being correct that both were town doesn't really do much, banana was widely scum read for good reasons, you could have just as easily abstained from lynching her for town cred. At best that argument is NAI.
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@Mharman
Make your town cases
Most of this can be dismissed as wifom, but you asked.

1. I suspected joebob pretty early, pointed out either in dp1, or 2 that his behavior fits his scum MO, and its pretty obvious in most cases with joebob, as scum he tends to bandwagon more and take a backseat, whereas he as a genuine interest as town to solve, even though he's often wrong. I got the feel he wasn't even trying and was just going with the flow which is consistent of him as mafia.

2. I am the only claimed protective role unless you count savant's revive thing. 

3. I have a succesful protection. The argument that I waived the night kill is extremely ballsy move for no reason, because if I waived it didn't take me out of the POE, and mafia were on the verge of victory when it happened. I see no logical reason for them to forfeit the night kill just to not get any town cred or benefit from it.

4. All the people that have been scum reading me throughout the game are still alive, thus I am not playing very tactically sound at all if scum. Mharman has been on me since day phase one, pie was open about he and casey suspecting me last day phase. If I was a smart scum I wouldn't be leaving people alive who suspect me. 

My only mislynch so far was banana, but a lot of us were wrong on that one. I think she played her role horribly, and not consenting with town in giving information, as well as virtually lying about her justification, I think I was justified in my  take on banana. That said other than that, my town reads have felt pretty solid, and one of my 2 solid scum reads has already flipped scum. If whiteflame flips scum i'll be 2 for 2. 

That's all I have really. About to head to work, but i'll be around if I am needed to hammer. 
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@whiteflame
I've been scumming you since dp1, and i literally just told mharman i'd follow whatever he decides. 
I guess sheeping votes has become the go-to for both you and GP. Didn't see you as the type.

It's strange how personal your taking this. It's not like I am voting you for no reason.
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unvote til mharms ready
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@AustinL0926
Whiteflame is one, barney is one, the last is between you and GP. Their is equal amount of wifom to buy you or gp as scum, but im leaning towards GP being town and you being scum. Idk what being legendary means but I don't think it neccesarily means you are town confirmed. 
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@whiteflame
And there's Luna coming in at the opportune moment to win this for scum.
I've been scumming you since dp1, and i literally just told mharman i'd follow whatever he decides. 
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vtl whiteflame
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@Mharman
Anyway, the lynch is most likely between Whiteflame and Barney. Thoughts?
Both are in the POE for me... Honestly fine with either. I don't whiteflames claim, and barney's seems a bit OP considering all the town roles we have seen so far, plus lack of confirmation doesn't help. I'll go with ya'll on this one. I haven't been following the game too closely, just checking in more or less here and there, laziness plus other interests like I mentioned earlier. I trust you and pie are probably town and can solve this, so just let me know who you decide. 
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@Barney
Lunatic I have an uneasy feeling towards, but I but would more of just not put them in the town pile (doctors surviving instead of being NKed is weird; not to say it doesn't happen, but it's still weird).
The same could be said for pie and mharman being alive at this point too. Or even a neighborizer. 
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@Barney
For NP1 were you informed your action failed or that you were roleblocked?

"your action has failed"
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What is dead may never die, but rises again harder and stronger...
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@Savant
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Yeah mharman or pie dying seems like the obvious choices, which is why I continued on pie, he was pretty confirmed. 
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@ILikePie5
What’s your justification again? What is Wylted’s theory on the life cap?

My character is the 120 year life cap, and my role is Apportioner. 

Basically a bunch of people interpreted a scripture from Genesis 6:3 to mean that God designed humans to have 120 year long life spans. Wylted disagrees, and think God has no intention of stopping humans from extending their lives and has nothing against it. That's the best paraphrase I can give with out copy pasta. 
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@whiteflame
Yeah I just woke up my brain is groggy lol
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@ILikePie5
Ask Wylted, but you’re probably rights. If we lynch correctly today, and I die, you’re confirmed town. I do see you waiving the NK on purpose to get the town cred though. It’s tough. I’ll consider it
Wylted already said I can protect people multiple times to continuously extend their life. I was surprised and am not sure that’s how the role would normally work but it’s his game so I’ll take it.

As far as waiving the night kill, I don’t see much of a reason for scum to do that at this point if we are assuming we’ve  been at MYLO, they just needed a successful mislynch and night kill to win and Joebob was just lynched, I don’t think they can afford to waive personally but I’d understand why you’d be wary regardless.
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@whiteflame
The last line was in reference to you
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@whiteflame
You’ve been in my scum pile for a while now, Austin and Barney have been null because they had posted so intermittently. I am now leaning town on Austin and scum reading Barney. Austin activity shift has been better and his reads seem solid, Barney needs some way to confirm himself and I don’t like absorber as a town role it makes more sense as a fake claim
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@ILikePie5
Thank you, but that means I will die tonight anyways along with another townie.
I can try to protect you again but doubt it will work again
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@ILikePie5
I dislike the fact that you don’t have anything in double brackets. Everyone has something. JoeBob also claimed he has nothing.


Sorry dude but the double bracket thing is nonsense. I am town and it’s simply not a thing. Also if it were a thing mafia would be smart enough to just lie and say something in double brackets. Let’s not get caught up in reads like this over behavior
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@ILikePie5
I protected pie third time in a row. Nice lynch on joebob 
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@whiteflame
I don't love that you posted this vote already, but if it comes down to you or JoeBob, at least we know that his role claim is net negative to town. As far as I'm concerned, both of you are givens for lynches between this DP and next, and if we're choosing order, I'm fine with JoeBob being first.

That being said, I'm leaving that order up to those who aren't in POE at this point.

I pretty sure joebob is scum here. His playstyle matches every single scum game he's ever played, tell me otherwise.
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@Mharman
im fine with joebob or whiteflame this day phase, idk maybe I can get my role off tonight and convince you guys im town, but ill likely be blocked.

VTL joebob
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@ILikePie5
Playing god with mortality is the only brackets I see 
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@ILikePie5
I don’t even know what your talking about
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Keep in mind this is lylo if you mislynch here the game is over.
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@ILikePie5
(Playing god with mortality)
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@Mharman
Also the claim is shaky cause it’s a normal name, and it’s one of the most likely candidates for matching up w bio engineer.
I’m also the only protective role besides the self revive thing if you count that from savant in a game with multiple killing abilities in the towns side.

There’s an equal amount of wifom that indicates that I am town here as there is that indicicates otherwise.
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@Mharman
She was increasingly scummy that whole day phase, from non compliance with town, to seemingly lying about her justification which was the main reason I gave her leeway day phase one to then in dp2 basically admitting not having any justification, then just getting super defensive and omgussy with Vader and not giving external reads outside of him when asked etc etc. she started out slightly scummy and it got worse and worse as the game progressed 
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@Mharman
Doesn’t get around the other problems I have with you, including the behavior from DP2.
If your behavior has to do with my activity levels it’s just a bad read. My activity fluctuates game to game based on how busy I am irl with other things and right now I’ve been playing Conan exiles rather addictidtly, to the point where I don’t think I’ll even be signing up for the next game as it is taking my free time a lot right now as we are in a big war with a 10 man clan.

Outside of that I’ll defend and stand by my banana read all day any day and defend it in the endgame. She played horribly.
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@ILikePie5
Why would it be unknowingly tho?
because I wouldn’t know whether I successfully saved a kill? Could mean anything but why would scum unknowingly do anything? Not knowing is kind of a key town thing, as we are the uninformed majority
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@Mharman
 Lunatic, whose hand unknowingly weaves the threads of delay."
Just pointing out the threads of delay is confirmation of me being a apportioner as I delay  death.
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