Lunatic

It's possible. Not long ago Invincible was absent when the theme made him the main character.

Mostly I believe we should not consider main characters to be town confirmed. I'm Zelda, and I think it would be a blunder to assume I'm innocent just because of that.

Plus as light as the pressure from a single vote is, it can help stimulate reactions to be read.

I'm going to give you nothing today.

I believe it's a mistake to assume too little from our host.

Yes, there were problems with the setup of last game... But that gave him opportunities to receive advice and do better this game.

As for reads, I’ll provide my thoughts at this point.

As I see it, at least right now, I’ve got problems with pursuing any of the four Champions. We would have to assume that they were given as fake claims for me to believe that either Chris or BK are scum. Chris claimed too early for that to just be a shoot from the hip fake claim, and BK knew before he claimed his character (he was second of the four to do so, if I’m seeing this correctly) that the other two were taken. I don’t buy that he’s that ballsy, either, and based on how he’s softclaiming his role, I’m solidly against a lynch on him or efforts to get a role claim right now.

Earth is the only one I’m slightly off about because he claimed so late, as well as claiming to be one of the six rather late (though two people claimed to not be one of those six after him, so it’s still pretty ballsy even if it was nonspecific). I’m willing to revisit my reads on these three later, but for anyone who is keeping score, if we assume Moozer gave scum fake claims, the only realistic way two people within this group could be scum is if he gave out two as real claims and two as fake claims. I don’t buy it. I’d sooner buy that Link and Zelda are fake claims.

Speaking of whom, JoeBob and Barney. I’d say I’m pretty null on both. JoeBob says he’s confirmable, so I’ll at least give him the chance to confirm himself. Barney, like me, says he’s semi-confirmable, probably meaning he has to be tracked or his target watched to get a result (that’s what I meant for mine). In any case, these are lynches I’d consider for DP2, but not now. I don’t think scum would make the choice to claim two closely linked characters unless they got them both as fake claims, and even then, I find it hard to believe they’d put themselves in the position to be taken down together.

That leaves three. Luna is the most townread player based on his claim because it’s a role that can be verified this DP. That’s enough for me to write him off as a target unless he somehow fails to do so. That leaves Austin and Savant. I don’t know what the confirmable role is that Austin has, but it’s more than we’re getting from Savant with the Bleeder role, which just barely makes sense and will almost certainly not be confirmed (scum have no reason to target him given that he’s not a PR of consequence), not to mention it functions as a justification for his surviving multiple NPs.

Also, Savant’s reads are consistent with what he has been saying, but they don’t make a lot of sense to me. Chris’s role was in the last setup Moozer made, so it should at least be a plausible role to have in this game. I would absolutely understand if he sussed the claim in that game, but given the plausible CC on the claim, the only way this makes sense is if scum received fake claims including both character and role. It’s possible, but pretty unlikely, that Moozer would hand two of this particular set of four over to town, hand one or more as fake claims over to scum, and give them role claims to boot that mirror claims from last game. That’s what we’d have to assume to believe that Chris used a fake claim, as well as BK, Earth or me receiving a fake claim from that same pool.

I don’t think Moozer would go directly from not offering any fake claims to offering two fake claims that other claims suggest are real (seriously, two of the four Champions when the other two must be town?) and provide them along with at least one role from his previous game to make it plausible, but I guess if we assume that all this is true, I can see how it might have ended up this way. I just don’t buy that Chris’s relative absence and BK’s focus on theme makes them more likely suspects.

And yes, I know I’m focusing on claims more than behavior. For the time being, though, that’s where my thoughts are at.

I'd honestly prefer not to lynch Savant today, and not just because he hasn't made it to D2 once in his life. In the last game he was really transparent as scum (so much so that I caught him by the start of page 4). If the themesplit theory pans out and he is actually scum, he's going to slip up sooner or later.

In particular, that readlist of his feels pretty naturally constructed - I can say that as scum, faking genuine reads is something I really struggle with and I don't see that kind of forced or awkward logic there.

Savant to me is scum read because his role is a BIT too similar to mine, very similar.

Can you explain in more detail how your role works and if it's Xshot/infinite?

I don't see the harm in using it ASAP, but I would prefer if a majority of living players agreed to it first

In that game, we werent given fake claim.

All what we had was my power to reveal 2 town players. I chose Savant and whiteflame, and after seeing their roles and characters, we had somewhat of a hint of what town consists of, but it wasnt certain, but it was obvious enough that if we were right and if all characters were claimed, town would figure out that we were the odd ones, and we didnt have any hint of a role claim, so I had to come up with my own fake role and fake character, and hope it doesnt get counter claimed or stands out, which was too hard.

Scum basically had no chance to win lord of the rings, so the only plan I had was to take out all the most knowledgable town players first, to maybe only leave those who know nothing of series and wont figure us out.

That makes it your lynch to decide, so it’s mainly a question of what would better inform it. I’ll leave that to you to decide, since I have a hard time believing that a mod would give scum a role that can unilaterally (you said “unanimously,” but that doesn’t make any sense since that term means that you’re getting agreement from everyone, not that you’re making the decision solo) decides the lynch.

Uh, yeah, unilaterally is the word I meant lol.

Anyways. I am not gonna be a tool with my role. I'll definitely take town input into account of my decision, unless for some reason we just wildly dis-agree with who everyone thinks is scummy or something which I don't really see being that big of an issue. And if we absolutely can't decide on a target today I'll just use it on savant to confirm him or whatever, though like I said, feels like a bit of a waste. 

We dont really have other options, unless you wanna search for more character and role claims?

That makes it your lynch to decide, so it’s mainly a question of what would better inform it. I’ll leave that to you to decide, since I have a hard time believing that a mod would give scum a role that can unilaterally (you said “unanimously,” but that doesn’t make any sense since that term means that you’re getting agreement from everyone, not that you’re making the decision solo) decides the lynch.

So that’s Luna, Austin and Savant as the outliers. None of them can be one of the six unless they’re CCing. It’s possible they were barking up the wrong tree trying to limit scum like this, but atm, it seems plausible that scum is limited to that pool. I’d like to hear from all three about it (looks like Savant already responded).

"Despite her intimidating appearance, Urbosa is a rather charismatic and kind woman, she has a very strong maternal feeling towards Princess Zelda, since she was a friend of her mother, the Queen of Hyrule. She also has a joking side as she often liked to scare people with the lightning she conjured."

Not sure that matches loose cannon, but maybe it's a reference to the lightning?

Can you guys say if you are one of the 6 characters mentioned by whiteflame?

So one person immediately tells me that was a bad call, and another immediately says that was a good call. I don't know what to think, lol.

But yes, to be clear, anyone who visits me at night will die.

Whoa, you don't want to claim that role. If you weren't a new player, I would scum read you for that.

Easily broken by massclaim. Each person claims their old char/role and their new char/role. Anyone who refuses to claim their new char/role or has a contradictory claim is guilty.

Poor Luna. He's going to make a wallpost analyzing each player's entrances before realizing what happened.

Forgot to put Lunatic. He's busy with the game, but laying low is his MO as scum, so I'd put him at the bottom of the neutral list. If he was town, he might have posted at least once by now.

Rings of Power is certainly a show that exists.

I remember saying something like this last game and getting lynched for it.