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@Savant
How often has town lynched scum on D1? We didn't manage it in either of the games I've played.
Here? Probably rarely these days. It used to happen more frequently though
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@ILikePie5
I need discord information from you as well. Dm me!
You can just link the mafia discord to them in a private message and they will have to create an account or join with one they already have to join in. I found out you dont need everyones discord handles this way.
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@ILikePie5
Ig I can see the confusion here. But Austin was even more confusing when he gave you that message and then gave me something contradictory from my POV
Ironically that message caused a lot of problems for us too. It made the Barney mislynch so much more complicated then it needed to be, because Austin had accidentally mod confirmed another player to Whiteflame and that would have been such an easy mislynch without that. I had to look so scummy in order to pull that lynch off and pretty much gave up all my town cred if I even had any to pull that lynch off lol. I didn’t blame Austin for it, he was doing his best to remedy the situation but the idea that Barney was confirmed was already solidified in whiteflames head at that point.
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@ILikePie5
DP3 innocent childs are scummy af. And if I did reveal it, Lunatic wouldn’t have given me a donation for sure
No, I still would have lmao. I had even guessed that you were innocent child to supa lmao. My actual guess was a bit silly like “pie is probably an innocent child, super Joat, cop” or something like that. You being town confirmed wasn’t really an issue because at that point you weren’t really an option for mislynching as I needed you more as an ally then an asset for an mis lynch. If earth and moozer hadn’t been so vocal against me since early on I might have considered trying to mislynch you, but I didn’t have that much pull or influence that game, so dick riding you seemed the way to go lol
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@ILikePie5
Would me showing up innocent on your investigation have made your decision lynching moozer any easier? I was trying to gamble whether you would visit me or moozer hard, and in the end I decided to frame moozer instead. Turns out I had the ability to both make him look guilty and make myself look innocent that night, but I wasn't big brained enough to piece that together lol. I sat there thinking about it for hours too. I big dumb.
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@ILikePie5
When WF died radar bells started ringing in my head.
I knew it would, me and supa debated about it last night. I was strongly leaning towards killing you for this exact reason, but supa was convinced earth would have lynched me, he had been basically saying that he would be willing to lynch me as early as dp1. Supa had a point. Earth is a bit of a wild card, and I don't expect to be able to manipulate him. He's kind of like greyparrot, once he has his mind made up hes just gonna do what he's gonna do. I could have tried wifom on him, but it was just too much of a gamble. Ultimately I caved to supas logic here, and in the end it was probably the right decision. But austin criticized that move as well lol.
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Signups:
iLikePie5 - Mahabharata Mafia
In the Hopper:
Lunatic- Matrix6 (9 player set up)
On Hold:
Mharman - Gunplay Mafia
RationalMadman - 8 player game, unknown theme
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Current Mafia:
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iLikePie5 - Mahabharata Mafia
In the Hopper:
Lunatic- NewD3 M (9 player set up)
On Hold:
Mharman - Gunplay Mafia
RationalMadman - 8 player game, unknown theme
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Oh yeah the reason we targeted savant was because supa brought up that he was a pawn and told me that if pawn reaches the other side of the board it can become any piece it wants so I got paranoid it was gonna be a role that if we left alive would come back to bite us. And I didn’t think pie was gonna convince the town to lynch him based on his lynch all millers policy
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Supa was a great mafia partner. 10/10 would scum it up with him again #nohomo
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GGs all. You did a good job modding Austin, fun game overall.
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@AustinL0926
Was the theme split officially chess players vs chess concepts? I know it was players vs something
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By the way, fuck you pie for making me waste the coolest role I’ve ever gotten in mafia lol. You should have seen how pissed I was every time you targeted me. I had such devious plans with my role and you foiled it! But I didn’t want to think of trying to justify my way out of not complying so it seemed the better of the options to just forfeit my role to you.
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@AustinL0926
Oh yeah also, idk why you didn't just make this play NP3:-Frame Moozer-Deflect yourself to Pie-Scout PieDid you consider that at all? basically would've been a lawyer on urself
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@ILikePie5
Like I said, very well played
Appreciate it you as well
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@whiteflame
My sincere apologies about my behavior towards you dp2, obviously I don’t mean any of that. It was a last ditch effort to try and manipulate you. Honest did tell me he made a mistake by giving Barney the info that you didn’t move, and I really don’t know how to argue against that so I was pulling everything card out of the hat to try and dispute that. The Barney lynch was suppose to be an easy mis lynch but that complicated the hell out of it. So I got a little aggressive there to try and convince you to vote him. Hope you know I got nothing but respect for you.
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I scouted you last night that’s how I knew I had to claim one role was tampered with and pray to the wifom gods you would buy that
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@ILikePie5
I know you did it was a 50/50 gamble on whether to lawyer myself or frame moozer. I was convinced you would cop moozer. Thought that would have fucked me
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Heads up im about to drive to work, won't be able to post for an hour or so while im driving there, clocking in and getting pass downs etc.
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@Moozer325
Point #1Back in DP3, Vader made a big point about Luna being safe because he was with you. This does make some sense, but then Vader turns out to be scum, so why would they try to protect someone if they weren't on a team with him? Wouldn't you want the keep the options as open as possible if you were scum? But no, Vader specifically went to say that Luna was safe.
POE had you guys narrowed down since yesterday, all vader knew he could do was hope to get lynched instead of you so you could use your role tonight, as I am guessing you are the power role out of the two mafia members. Notice how he didnt even really try to defend himself or pin the lynch on you beside a cursory "vote for moozer"? You were the only one presenting a case for yourself. He was just hoping to get lynched tonight. My role tells me someone was interfered with so I know that you still have to have some decent kind of role here.
Point #2This one is pretty simple, so I'll keep it short. I was the first so claim. You could argue that it was because I was new, but my scum partner definitely wouldn't have let me do that, and I would have listened to them, because I'm new.
Quite the contrary. Your scum partner would have told you to get ready to claim asap, because noobs always get pressured dp1. You claimed early and want a noob excuse for that, but you don't think you get a noob excuse for the absolutely attrocious way you used your role? You ENABLED someone who is now confirmed scum, and you threw away your protection willy nilly. You can't pick and choose what you get noobie excuses for. I am starting to doubt the noob thing at all actually. I think you have been playing calculated as hell, and it's honestly quite brilliant for how new you are. Props to your scum play so far.
My role makes sense with a lot of flipped roles.Yeah, but you waited forever to claim, and I was right out the door with it. It makes sense that you’re claim fits, because you saw the other ones first.
I literally claimed the first time I was asked. I didn't really need to though because I was the one confirming pie when he was the most suspected.
I wouldn't have killed Savant dp1. That kill makes no sense to me.I would argue that it makes sense, only because it doesn’t make sense. You used you’re kill to draw the attention away from you and bolster you’re argument with a somewhat unrelated kill.
Except I don't do that and never have done that. I target people who I deem the biggest role threat. And I was pivotal in keeping the power roles from claiming dp1, like they are prone to do in most games lately. I was the one advocating stopping after the three claims we had dp1. By POE, I would have known to go after someone like earth, whiteflame or barney based on POE. So again why the hell would I kill savant? Especially if you think my angle is to support pie heavily, pie would have eventually gone after savant because his policy of lynching all millers. Made 0 sense for me to kill savant.
I would argue that Vader makes total sense because they were saying you were fine, just because you allied with pie. Besides, this same argument could be used for me. How am I a better Match to Vader than you?
Because I have suspected vader publicly since day phase 1 and 2. I put him on blast and called him out for his flip flop on the joebob lynch. No one else did. You never called him out til it was forced for you to do so. You also enabled supa, the known mafia, with your role. You can't explain that one away.
Point #3You said it yourself, lynching you would be the best move for me if I was scum, but Earth got lynched. For more details, refer back to my earlier statement, but in summary, Earth dying last night makes much more sense if Luna was scum, not me. And you can't really argue the reverse phycology side, because we're too late in the game to play that.
I would not have killed earth. It is pointless. His role was a day giving role, so killing him at night would literally do nothing. Also pie was town confirmed, in what world wouldn't I have killed him as scum? You were the one trying to appeal to him so hard last day phase, I think you hoped you could manipulate him by keeping him alive this day phase. I on the other hand have never once tried manipulating pie, I've known he was town since day one because of him visiting me at night.
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@ILikePie5
Even if you are scum, definitely well played. Like your play since the beginning of the game has been brilliant
Not sure how to respond to that because as town I feel like this has been a horrible game for me. But I blame a bit on the mod because of the set up seems a bit crazy to me. Joebobs role, the two town roleblockers, of course barney and joebobs behavior were at part a play of their lynch too, especially when barney was blatantly lying I was almost sure he was scum. But thanks I guess? lol
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@ILikePie5
If you’re scum, you deserve the win
I absolutely promise you i'm not scum here man. Not been my best game, but neither was the office mafia and I was town there too lol.
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@Moozer325
My whole argument yesterday was why everyone Pie should lynch Vader first. The only reason I directed most of my arguments at him was because his vote was basically the only one that mattered.
Which doesn't help your case because you were only on him yesterday once we had the POE narrowed down, and supa was the godfather meaning the other mafia likely has a power role. You chose supa because his role had less impact. I on the other hand have suspected supa from day one and called him out for it big time in dp1 and 2. You only just started scum reading him.
If there is only one person who can make a decision, it's not sucking up to them, it's doing what you have to do if you want anything done your way.
You played this situation perfectly to your hand. Gotta admit, pretty clever for a noob. Never underestimating you again, though im sure a lot of help was given to you by supa who i am beginning to respect more and more lately.
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@Moozer325
If I was scum, why would I purposely put myself in this situation? I had every reason to kill Pie, but he's still here.Think about it, if you we're me, would you rather be with someone who will vote for me doubtless and a confirmed town, or with someone who will vote for me doubtless, and someone who could go either way?Luna's argument makes no sense!
Your whole argument yesterday was buttering pie up, you never tried to do that once with earth. It was clear you wanted pie in the lylo situation with you because you thought he would be easier to manipulate
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@Moozer325
Because Luna is scum. Like I said, it makes no sense to play reverse psychology here. If I was scum, all I had to do was kill you, and me and Earth get Luna. But if Luna is scum, killing Earth does the same thing. And if he tried to play reverse phycology and get you instead, I don't think Earth would have bought it, so it's safer to just go and kill who is more convenient to be dead.
Are you kidding me? I 100% would have killed pie as scum. He was a town confirmed, there was still a chance to try and spin an earth mislynch, albeit a low chance. This reeks of a noob kill who was scared of earths ability because they misunderstood how it worked.
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@ILikePie5
Btw the delay was partially my fault. I work graveyards and was up all night but I guess moozer didn’t submit his scum action yet, so by the time I got home in the morning I asked Austin to hold the day phase until I woke up, so the initial delay was not my fault. I was reared and ready to go last night
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Vaders role is interesting. Theme split players vs chess concepts?
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Last night I got information that one role was interfered with. So someone must have got roleblocked.
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Supa feels like he is barely trying to defend himself here, though. I kind of feel like they are hoping we go for supa first lol
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@ILikePie5
Who do you want to get rid of first and why?
I am equally down for either. I am kind of trying to WIFOM which of the two has the better role here. Moozer being the first to vote vader, and also making the bigger case for himself could be him hoping we go for supa first which could mean he has the better role, but it's WIFOM logic, at the end of the day I'll just follow your logic on whoever you think is more likely to be the stronger role.
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@ILikePie5
It rules out you and Earth team for sure
I already kind of thought earth was town confirmed but its good to know for sure
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Well theres been no quick hammer, so that confirms what I already deduced, one of vader or moozer is scum.
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@ILikePie5
Everyone, feel free to present to me arguments for why you are not scum and the others are scum
Sure. You can dismiss alot of this as wifom, but it is what it is.
1. My role makes sense with a lot of flipped roles. You can tell Austin has been experimenting with weird and unique roles, and I think I only ever saw soldier once in a game. I've never seen a gladiator, or whatever that tracker role was. Same applies to mathematician, never seen that role before either. My character lines up with the rest of the confirmed flipped characters too. Black pieces, which I suspect is mafia, is the only other physical claim on the board and I am pretty sure supa has to be scum, so we know at least the theme split is physical vs non physical. At least that's where my head is at with the theme.
2. I've pretty much forfeited my role every night in hopes that it would pay off and give another townie a better role utility.
3. I wouldn't have killed Savant dp1. That kill makes no sense to me.
4. Nobody really makes sense here as my scum partner. I've suspected both vader and moozer since day phase one, and I havent been giving moozer the noob excuse because his behavior fluctuates between him justfying stuff then seeming to pull the noob card or ignore questions he doesnt wanna answer. Everyone kept saying pie was partner but we know hes innocent. We know theres a cop. If I am scum whose my partner?
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@Moozer325
Mostly because I wasn’t well versed in the “lingo”, but I think what I said has remained constant the whole time. How was what I said different from a one-shot doctor/strengthener?
Barney and whiteflame had listed you as the wrong role several times the last few phases and you never corrected them. I had kind of guessed that you were more what your now saying but it was needless confusion. And what do you mean lingo? Does your role pm not list you as a doctor/strengthener?
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@Moozer325
Character: CastlingRole: 1-shot Doctor-Strengthener (used)Explanation: I choose one player as the king, and they get protected, and one player as the rook, and they get buffed. I can only use it once, because you can only castle once per game.
Bro This sounds way different then when you first described it.
"I'll suppose I'll be honest. I'm a castling, I can use my ability once to protect one piece (king), and make one piece's next moves untamperable (rook)."
There was debate in the day phase several times as to what your role actually was. Why didnt you just say doc strengthener to begin with?
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@ILikePie5
Character: The Elo Rating System
Role: Mathematician
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@Moozer325
I was the first to claim, and because of that, you would think I would claim to be a piece, right?
No actually, because the only person so far to claim a piece was a miller, so if anything that makes more sense to be a mafia claim.
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@Moozer325
Figured if he was telling the truth, it was the least I could do If the Mafia decided to tamper with his action. Besides, didn't really have anyone else better to use it one, I think?
Could you have both given it to earth and protected him?
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@Moozer325
Why did you choose vader to make his action untamperable?
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@Earth
Anyway I'm the Controlable Cop. TLDR is that I can pick someone during the day and the next night they have the ability to 1x cop someone as their night action. However, if I am RB'd during the night, they get nothing. They get the results.
Well we know theres a miller, and we got supa confirming you were roleblocked, so I mean that's pretty concrete proof in my eyes you are town.
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