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I’ll play as long as 7k isn’t allowed to play
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Any chance you wanna tell us who you targeted last night wylted? That team isn’t on your team anyway, and towns got this game on POE pretty sure anyway.
And there a good chance you’ll just lie to us anyway but really you can’t win as long as that player is alive anyway so I don’t see any harm in you telling us who they are. You can hedge your bets in your partner winning the game for you still. What do you say?
@wylted (for some reason I can’t tag you)
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I just caught up. Can’t post a ton right now since I’m working but I don’t believe I blocked the night kill, mafia would have been stupid to target RM with all the claimed protection roles. I think wilted targeted the other mafia member last night which is why he is saying he knows who the other mafia member is and that he used up the other teams factional bulletproof. Only thing I can’t explain is what happened to RM that roleblocked him. Chances are he was also jailkept.
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Just noticed the day phase is up, haven’t read anything yet. I protected RM last night. I’ll try to post after work
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Current Mafia:
N/A
Signups:
AustinL0926 - Battlebots Mafia
In the Hopper:
iLikePie5 - Heroes of Olympus Mafia
Lunatic-Invincible
On Hold:
Mharman - theme tbd
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There's a good chance scum is telegraphing so they can team up against town and then settle after.
I dont think they are working together
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How does Barney not framing you prove him and you both Town?
ITs not 100% proof but it looks really good for him. Me not visiting someone (despite how hard you've been pushing the narrative that it is scummy) is already pretty good indicator that I didn't roleblock someone. You can WIFOM I am the ninja or whatever, which would be a huge coincidence, but you also have to factor in the way it was revealed that he tracked me visiting no one, you basically guessing it for him, and the wording that he "stayed" home. Like for you to make an argument that we are scum based on this set of circumstances, you would have to buy into a lot of coincidences and circumstances aligning perfectly. Sure stay open minded to that, but lets be real here, we have the scum narrowed down by POE and I've already mentioned everyone in that scum pool earlier.
Wylted, whiteflame, GP, ijb, and Best.Korea. Im pretty sure remaining scum is in there, and im guessing its just two mafia on each team based on what wylteds said. Hes mentioned only one partner multiple times.
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@RationalMadman
All agree to my above plan (the @joebob one)?
Telegraphing plans is unwise, you are a likely candidate for my protection though.
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If anything barney just confirmed my lack of action which proves him and me are both town. Everyone please continue to ignore anything RM says unless its investigative results. He is absolutely useless otherwise.
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If you hadn't given up your power np1 we'd have more info rn about Barney, who may have slipped.
Substantiate this
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@Barney
This isn't my first day playing mafia. That tactic works on brand new players (for better or worse), but has the suboptimal problem of telling roles too early.IF I'm vanilla, it tells mafia not to harm me. Thereby harming the power roles.ELSE, I'm a power role and it tells the mafia to harm me. Thereby sparing vanillas.
This post is town as fvck. If he was mafia his partner would have explained the situation to him of him being the last to claim. This seems pretty genuine lol
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@Barney
Anyone have a dashboard with role claims and such to share? Or are you all trying to do it strictly from memory?
Welcome! Yes ive been posting claimslist every few pages or so or at least been doing my best to do so. Welcome to the game again
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Claims:
Greyparrot- Black Dragon- Bleeder
Wylted- Fusion- JOAT? - admitted to scum team 1
RationalMadman- Shatter- Cop (np1 guilty on white flame)
Joebob- HUGE- motivator
Best.Korea- Duck - bulletproof/vigilante
Whiteflame- whiplash- Jailkeeper
Ijb1- Tantrum- Jailkeeper
Lunatic- Witchdoctor- Doctor (forfeited np1)
Unclaimed:
Vader
Greyparrot- Black Dragon- Bleeder
Wylted- Fusion- JOAT? - admitted to scum team 1
RationalMadman- Shatter- Cop (np1 guilty on white flame)
Joebob- HUGE- motivator
Best.Korea- Duck - bulletproof/vigilante
Whiteflame- whiplash- Jailkeeper
Ijb1- Tantrum- Jailkeeper
Lunatic- Witchdoctor- Doctor (forfeited np1)
Unclaimed:
Vader
I've also been posting these just about everywhere Joebob lol
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@JoeBob
What about Lunatic? He hasn’t said his role either that I noticed.Then again he is at least speaking.
That is a very interesting take. I claimed within 4 hours of the day phase being posted.
I also probably have the second most posts in the game next to RM. So I don't know why you would think I am "not speaking".
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@RationalMadman
Alright RM you are starting to clog up the day phase now.
Cognitive dissonance at its finest. This explains why despite all the experience you're still mid as fuck at this. All you know to do is vote whoever bugs you and insult. It's kind of worrying if that's your attitude in other areas of life.
Its not about just being annoyed, if that were the case I'd be voting you. It's about the pure nothing spam for 300 pages that makes it so other players become incredibly less active. You are now starting to contribute to this spam by doing what you are doing now. 7k Never offered anything useful and never will. Your opinion on my skill level is completely irrelevant.
Anyways I am kind of done with you, I know you think your doing stuff but outside your results your kind of useless to the progression of this game so I am going to start ignoring you going forward for the sake of winning the game.
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@AustinL0926
I am currently PMing a few players I know to see if they would be willing to replace Vader, since I also feel that the DP is taking unnecessarily long because of it. So far none have responded, but it's only been a bit.Also, for the record, chill out with the insults or I'll be a very annoyed mod
If you wanna kick me you can but I won't be censored. Sorry. Rationalmadman has a notorious victim complex and I refuse to feed into it. If he wants to continue to gaslight me, warp my words, and change the narrative, I am gonna be ruthless to him. He's also an egomaniac who has been trying to say hes carrying the game instead of actually doing anything. Bugs the shit out of me. I can't hold back anymore. Not sorry. But thanks for working on a replacement for vader :)
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Still undecided on Best.Korea. Not closed minded to Greyparrot being scum either, that claim he got could be a mod given fake claim, but it is really good, and it matches his character perfectly. Unfortunately we don't usually get a lot out of greyparrot either way so I don't really know how to pursue that one.
Likely teams with the known mafia
Mafia group 1:
Whiteflame and Best.Korea or Greyparrot (since we know whiteflame didn't use the fake claim, one of his partners would have had to)
Wylted and Joebob(Motivator with only one role he can motivate?) or ijb (based on the CC of whiteflame, and unlikeliness of all the protection roles, and how good the fake claim sounds its probably mod given and wylted probably told him to jump on the opportunity to confirm himself since white flame was already damned anyway.)
I think Ijb is more likely wylted's partner here, and whiteflames partner is pretty 50/50.
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Claims:
Greyparrot- Black Dragon- Bleeder
Wylted- Fusion- JOAT? - admitted to scum team 1
RationalMadman- Shatter- Cop (np1 guilty on white flame)
Joebob- HUGE- motivator
Best.Korea- Duck - bulletproof/vigilante
Whiteflame- whiplash- Jailkeeper
Ijb1- Tantrum- Jailkeeper
Lunatic- Witchdoctor- Doctor (forfeited np1)
Unclaimed:
Vader
Greyparrot- Black Dragon- Bleeder
Wylted- Fusion- JOAT? - admitted to scum team 1
RationalMadman- Shatter- Cop (np1 guilty on white flame)
Joebob- HUGE- motivator
Best.Korea- Duck - bulletproof/vigilante
Whiteflame- whiplash- Jailkeeper
Ijb1- Tantrum- Jailkeeper
Lunatic- Witchdoctor- Doctor (forfeited np1)
Unclaimed:
Vader
We need a replacement for vader I think. This inactivity is inhibiting progression of the game.
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Joebob is near the top of my scumlist as well, still concerned about him being wylteds partner and trying to earn towncred with with that claim since theres already a guilty on whiteflame. Also it just sounds like a good mod fake claim.
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@RationalMadman
It's very ironic I'm called a bully by Pie the other game. What I am is active, what you are is a bully. Statistically I vote mafia more often as town than any other player I've seen here, if we count votes at the ends of DPs only.
Is that why you keep spamming that I "wasted" the factional bulletproof after earlier telling me we could agree to dis-agree (when in actuality is you just not wanting to read what the mod wrote in dp1?)
In this game, I was the sole Town voting mafia DP1 other than the gamethrower who only did that due to my own persuasion that even got BK and Joebob to also unvote him and at least seem to consider voting Wylted.
Give yourself a cookie. We could go back to dp1 right now and I'd still vote 7k knowing he played how he played as town. For the record I am never playing with him again.
During all of this you decided to not stand by your outed read that Wylted wasbfakeclaiming and blindly sheep him to teach a gamethrower anlesson to Town's detriment.
I town read wylted actually, thought he was lying for town reasons.
If I were in your shoes I'd be apologising and respecting the fuck out of this other player far superior to me in all measurable regards during DP1 while I was a gullible donkey. You do you though, I'll do me. Keep spamming the R word too.
I was being respectful to you until you started being an idiot this day phase and repeating the same shit over and over again when it's clear you don't understand or read anything the mod wrote. So fuck you. Retard. :)
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@RationalMadman
Stop acting like a retard and ill stop calling you one. Deal?
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Get off your high horse. I woke up and seen you been repeating the same shit about me being anti town for forfeiting because you absolutely are retarded and dont understand how the mechanic works. And tons of just retarded stuff about me not having a role link and policy lynching 7k. You realize how much spam this day phase would have if 7k was still here? There would be another 50 pages of nonsense. Killing him was the best option for sure.
You aren't carrying town and every time you say that I cringe super hard. Just stfu and stop being so caucky and play the game like a normal person.
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@RationalMadman
See I think you as scum, play that DP1 exactly the way that you did.
I dont care. You are an idiot. You play anti town automatically every game you play, which sucks because you are the only confirmed town
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Buddy I've been right on many things this game tyvm. You have literally 0 pride to stand on for your bad communication and terrible reads.
You literally do not understand a mod mechanic and have told me that I wasted a factional bulletproof because you are an idiot and do not read.
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If you were mafia in DP1 as either Wylted's partner or 2 against his team, how would you have played it differently?
I have no clue what wylteds actually doing or what he hoped to accomplish with anything he did last day phase. Part of me still thinks he has something big brained up his sleeve with all this but it really depends on how long we are merciful towards him to enable him to pull whatever is he is trying to pull off. Not sure who is a bigger threat between him and whiteflame, but im still leaning whiteflame.
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@RationalMadman
Lunatic would have claimed if he was special like that.
Wrong again, just like you have been on so many things. No reason to reveal mechanics on my role, just helps the mafia unneccesarily.
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@RationalMadman
Also telling him to vig only one person instead of giving him options when the person your asking him to vig is confirmed mafia is asking for a role lock btw that’s why I’m adding other scum list options for him to hit.
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@RationalMadman
Stop saying I wasted the factional shield. You are obviously confused about how that works. Read the OP of day phase 1 and ask Austin if you have any questions because I’ve explained it to you the best way I can and you still aren’t getting it. It’s literally impossible to waste it we got utility out of it no matter what
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@RationalMadman
motivator claim isn't ijb?
Whoops I’m getting him and joebob mixed up
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WTF why would you want best korea to vig ijb?
because it’s super unlikely that a motivator exists for one role like you yourself just said.
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from what i understood it actually lasts beyond np1 until the first kill would happen.
Yeah but no matter what it only works one time and if I used my protection we’d basically never know if we still had it or not, and it gives us the same value if it’s used np1 or if it’s used np4 for example, so I’d rather get the value out of it np1 and not be confused about whether or not it was used or not.
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Current Mafia:
N/A
Signups:
AustinL0926 - Battlebots Mafia
In the Hopper:
iLikePie5 - Heroes of Olympus Mafia
Lunatic- Dogs
On Hold:
Mharman - theme tbd
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@Best.Korea
I am a bit confused about that one, but sure, if we all agree, I will take out whiteflame np2 unless I am blocked.
I think it would be better to just lynch him. He’s vying for survival by trying hard to redirect the lynch to wylted which makes me think he has an impactful role, I’d use your vig on either wylted or ijb.
Remember there is also a factional bulletproof so the big probably wouldn’t work anyway even if you weren’t role locked
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@RationalMadman
if vigilante is the only 1x power, motivator has to be fake.
yeah this is likely mafia. I don’t see the mod putting a motivator in for one person. I guess it’s possible but seems very unlikely
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@Best.Korea
Did you forget that whiteflame was both guiltied by the cop and character claimed?
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that's pretty wild reasoning esp as for all you knew a roleblocker is ther eand other roles aren't that defensive.
I mean the existence of a role blocker makes an even better case for me to forfeit and not blur the lines unnecessarily.
I also was confused at first abou tthis factional shit but basically you just wasted the factional shield for no reason from what I understand
What? It’s literally impossible to waste it. It’s a guaranteed protection for our faction and it satisfied its job last night just fine. Unless mafia targeted BP, assuming that wasn’t a fake claim.
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@RationalMadman
The only non protective roles on that list are you and the motivator. So one of them has to be fake.'one of them' doesn't apply to myself vs motivator then?
Yes I’m saying one of the protective roles is likely fake.
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@RationalMadman
To explain it better, let’s say I protected you last night as I originally intended. If scum targeted you then we would still have a factional bulletproof. But we wouldn’t know who scum targeted so it would blur the lines unnecessarily. I’d rather know the factional bulletproof is gone so when I protect people in the future I know that it was because of me there wasn’t a night kill. Situation is still relatively the same assuming mafia aren’t going to target a bulletproof or bleeder, only I have to guess work with the other Jailkeeper assuming he wasn’t cc’ing whiteflsme as a mafia ploy to get town confirmation (something we should actually consider btw)
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@RationalMadman
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@RationalMadman
why does motivator have to be fake if vig is 1x and real and you are probably not unlimited or why did you not use a protective power np1?
I didn’t say the 1x vig is real, just that is compensates for multiple protective roles if it is. Didn’t say the motivator was fake either.
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Whiteflame is the partner of Wylted. Why would Wylted risk it with a partner who isn't a tryhard?
Not 100% sure I agree this is a fact but it’s plausible. If it is true then whiteflsme probably has an important scum role because wylted is trying to deflect a lynch on him. And whiteflame is trying to redirect the lynch to wylted so wylted may not have a crazy good role if they are indeed partners.
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@RationalMadman
do you feel jailkeeper and you cancel out in terms of rolebalancing? Or would Austin potentially put both in?
Like I said multiple protection roles makes sense, it is a rolemadness game, a vig and two different mafia teams. The only reason I’m really suspicious of at least one of the other claims is that whiteflame got CCed and we know they got fake claims, so his partner(s) had to have used the other one. The only non protective roles on that list are you and the motivator. So one of them has to be fake. (Not counting wylted since he’s already admitted he’s scum)
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@Vader
Last but not least: your turn to claim my friend
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On that note:
Claims:
Greyparrot- Black Dragon- Bleeder
Wylted- Fusion- JOAT? - admitted to scum team 1
RationalMadman- Shatter- Cop (np1 guilty on white flame)
Joebob- HUGE- motivator
Best.Korea- Duck - bulletproof/vigilante
Whiteflame- whiplash- Jailkeeper
Ijb1- Tantrum- Jailkeeper
Lunatic- Witchdoctor- Doctor (forfeited np1)
Unclaimed:
Vader
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@RationalMadman
do not make a claims list, this can help mafia remaining to pick their claim well.
Heavily disagree with this. You should always assume mafia are on top of every claim that is made. Town are more likely to gloss over claims then scum are who are generally hyper aware of claims made because it effects how they fake claim.
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@Greyparrot
I still feel like I could very well be bleeding.
It’s literally impossible due to the bulletproof mechanic trust me
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