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Btw... Harris is doing better than i thought she would. She's really ambitious.
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Okay... is anyone else in here having a drink? Or am i the only one getting my whiskey on?
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@Imabench
He is... but i'm just not impressed with him. He seems like a fake politician. That's not what i'm personally looking for.Biden is hanging in there but I agree with ya that Yang needs to get another question
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My deductible is not 5 thousand... if that's true... that's pretty messed up. I thought my 100 dollar dedc was a lot
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Yang needs to talk more... Biden is sounding like an idiot as i thought... Harris had a pretty witty remark. This stage is better than yesterday so far. I personally like the interrupting. That blonde chick is pretty boss... chill-a-brand.
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@DapperMack
Way too early to know. Tonight will be a good preview however. I'll hold my predictions until i see tonight's performances, but i think it's still way too early to make a prediction. A lot can still happen.Old white people still decide elections, and unless absolutely zero millenials voted for him, Joe will probably win. He does have black voters, which includes a lot of millenials.
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@zedvictor4
Well, it is something people never think about. People try to escape it, people try to bury it. So, the realism part rings true as in for people to accept it's there and not hide from it. But yeah, it's an obvious truth... but many people aren't realistic about negativity.Negativity is Realism is a naive attempt at a philosophical maxim.
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@Gatorade
Interesting perspective, Gatorade. I agree depending on definitions of course. But, if you can't accept negativity exists, that people you don't agree with exist, that you can't beat this within yourself... you aren't whole or living. You are confident in who you are when you accept who you are... which means understanding what you don't like... about the world and yourself. You cannot escape it... all you can do is fight it and beat it.Negativity is Realism
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So i'm watching multiple news outlets. Independent (youtube) and jus media. And it looks like most props are going to Warren as it shouldn't be surprising and de blasio (surprising to me) (well, independent is also talking crap on him, not surprising, but exposure is exposure) ... all of this is moot however depending on tomorrow.
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I'm watching the news now... all they are showing is the dramatic moments smh...
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@DapperMack
Lol, i just said that to Bench. The media from here on out is very important in who gets the spotlight. That is also exactly why they picked her last for closing statements. They already know who they favor. It's sad they are talking about going against people in power while people in power hold their fate.The media's narrative is that Warren won anyway, and that is what matters. She has shined and already has the highest percentage of everyone in the room.
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@Imabench
I agree. You have to look at these debates through the eyes of the majority... not through the eyes of a person like ourselves on debate sites. Most people aren't like us. Plus, we'll see what media does about this debate... that's also very important.Hell I dont think any of them outside of Warren has a chance
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@Imabench
I disagree. You are right they did it in an annoying way tonight. They didn't do it in Trumps way. I know personalities pretty well, and Trump is an expert at trolling in his own right. If you watch the debates... he didn't just interrupt... he was witty about it, one liners, funny about it... that is a specific type of personality. That is what he is pro at and i'll give that too him. It's not about interrupting, it's about showing confidence in a witty way. If anyone, i think Yang may be able to do that...we'll see. But, how Trump does it is very human. It's very all of us in our heads. You have to give him credit where it's due. Even though i disagreed with him... he trolled the debate stage masterfully. I respected that. He was trolling politicians and i loved it. I would love to see a dem do the same but also be serious about what they're saying.I think otherwise tbh.
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@DapperMack
I agree with you DapperMack... he didn't shine at all.
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@Imabench
Common Bench, Castro doesn't have a chance..
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@Greyparrot
I agree.2nd debate will be far, far more interesting.
But Bernie aint too much older than Trump. Plus, i disagree he will bring up he can beat Trump. I hope he doesn't, and have noticed that isn't his style... but we'll see. Biden is just an idiot so he'll probably say it... the more he talks, the dumber people will see he is. That's why his new strat was 'limited exposure' aka... he is too dumb too talk.
Bernie on the other hand is good at talking about what he wants... he's been doing it for years. He is extreme... but that's why i voted for Trump. I wanted extreme and so do a lot of silent voters such as myself. I don't think he is going to have a frivilous he said she said war... We'll see. But i think he's just going to hit hard on what he believes in as he has been. And i say good. That's what we need. Although i believe we should always proceed conservatively... i am also a progressive. Bc times change so we must progress. We need that flavor that i don't see Trump providing at this point.
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Although i don't agree with everything he says... we need someone like Bernie. I hope Yang can have some bite too... we'll see.
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Tonight's candidates will be forgotten after tomorrow. That is my overall assessment.
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@thett3
Schools are a business. Businesses only care about profits. Some students are screwed bc of this. I payed off my loans. I went to a school i knew i could work my way through and pay... but i accept that not everyone is like me. To screw them for being ambitious but not making it is just wrong. They are rich enough with no care that people are going broke or living paycheck to paycheck bc of their greed. Greed in any form in our society should be fought just like a murder looking for a victim. Just bc it isn't physical pain doesn't make it right.
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@Greyparrot
I agree. Too bad people are too stupid (too emotional) to realize this.
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@Greyparrot
Yeah. I see what you mean and agree. But, who said anything you could resonate with?
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@Greyparrot
Who did you think did well? Even if you disagree with the party.
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@Imabench
That was beautiful.She certainly is the anti-war candidate of the Dems now. She took down Ryan with fucking tactical precision on that Afghanistan war question.
The thing is... and i hope she goes up in liking and i'm wrong, but she was too calm. I said earlier, they need to take a page out of Trumps book. They need to interrupt, they need to be annoying... bc people will interpret that as "passion" ... But, then i would be asking Tulsi to be fake. It just sucks. It sucks that the majority is how the majority is...
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@Greyparrot
I am not going off who i think bc that is irrelevant. I think Warren just held her ground in the overall and people will be touched by her emotion. But none of them were good enough for the "masses." I personally like Tulsi. But that doesn't matter.
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@Imabench
I do too... but i don't think most of America is smart enough to understand her message. They will likely go off the emotion Warren did in her last comment and be wowed...I think that Tulsi
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@Imabench
I didn't see any presidents tonight to be honest. Also, i really don't think a girl is going to beat Trump.
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Warren for last... Humble at first, nice. She's good i'll give her that. Can she stand with the big guns, we'll see. Bc she will make it through this for sure.
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Amy Amy Amy... haha that's all i can say.. she's too focused on Trump this Trump that... shut up.
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Castro... the emotional angle... not enough bro. I don't relate even though i do relate.
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@DapperMack
None of that resonates. They all should have said income inequality... or at least, not working for the working class. That is how a civil war will start... once people are fed up. That is the biggest threat. If we don't focus on our people... there is so much we will take until we say fuck Kim Kardashian flaunting a million dollar necklace while we starve.
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@Imabench
Yeah... i think most Americans are wising up to war. It's bullshit. Send your rich kids to war. All those kids sent to the middle east if they go to war with Iran... they are sacrifices. I'm persian and know a lot about Iran... they will give usa a run for their money if we go to war with them. I'm not saying they'll win... but a lot of American will for sure die.
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@DapperMack
He's trying to be relavent... i don't like him overall. He can't beat Trump.
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Who is this ugly bald guy... he's too ugly... shut up.. you lose.
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O'rouke is a tool ... if i see his hands one more time with that crap politician clinch i will puke.
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China, russia ... blah blah blah.... common... this crap is not winning anyone. It's wars and death... Tulsi needs to have more balls. Her message is strong.
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@Imabench
Okay... Tusli just owned him... F* these war people.
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@Imabench
I don't see any presidents up there. I was hoping Tulsi would do better, but she's a one trick pony sadly (although i'm anti-war and wish that pony resonated more). Warren is okay, she's just warren. De Blasio is making himself known... but not enough in my opinion. Overall... i think the big guns are tomorrow. All of these candidates will be forgotten after tomorrow. Except for Warren bc of who she is... but, tomorrow is the big guns. Tonight is pretty underwhelming. They are saying what they are saying... but i don't see anyone really stand out as president. I just wish so many weren't running for president. This is watering down the message by confusing people. I hope most just get there time and their message and get out... bc we need one person to show that progression is the key to our survival... i'm just not fully convinced with the progression these people are saying... i don't feel it. And if i don't feel it... they aren't doing it. That's arrogant on my part, but i told my friends Trump would win as soon as i watched his debates bc guess what... i felt it. They should take a page out of his book. They should be honest about the BS questions, and focus on the important issues. Fuck banning assault weapons... the important issue is working for the people. I don't hear enough of that with enough zeal from these people.
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@triangle.128k
Is it murder? If someone was going to murder someone you love and you had a gun... would you shot that person? If someone was about to murder someone on the street and you had a gun... would you shot that person? If you were in a doctor's office and they were about to do an abortion and you had a gun... would you shot the doctor?murder is taking place?
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This is the most virgin, prudish thread i have checked into... other humans thinking they are significant enough to tell people not to have sex lol.
Alec, you had an interesting conversation about invading and killing millions of people in Africa (including children)... but god you need to grow up and enter reality. Seriously... who are the people you listen to? They are massively steering you into the wrong direction. Do you seriously talk about these ideas irl?
Ramshutu... seriously no... we don't need to give thousands of kids to people like Alec man... bad idea. I'd rather die if i was the fetus.
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@Greyparrot
Problem is I make more money than I spend, and I only work 2 hours a day.
So basically you don't need free cash bc you have too much cash... okay. To each his own. I guess it's just a Persian thing on my part.
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@Greyparrot
I have never had a credit card, and I am 49.
It's about time you get one. You have 49 years of practice how not to be an idiot with your money... use that. Credit cards give you free money after using them for a little while. Why not use that against them? I sent my sister to Hawaii last year with my credit card rewards... i've never been in debt either. It's a win / win.
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@Alec
It's just a personal day. They can reschedule it if necessary. They would get fined for not showing up if they didn't show up the first day.
This is imprisonment, this is unrealistic, this is not reality.
How can you be addicted to killing babies?
I don't know. Why do people drink their own urine thinking it's a youthful medicine? I'm not here to tell you why people do crazy things, but that these people exist.
The claim that a fetus is a human being is a simple yes or no question.
It's a potential human being. So, yes... in the general sense it's a human embryo.
Not backed by science.
Can you murder grass, can you murder your cells, why? If you say cutting down a tree is murder... then by that definition, fine i agree. In any case, this goes down a rabbit hole. I'd rather abortions happen to an unconscious fetus and i'm against it if the brain is fully functioning. But i know to put what i want aside bc the alternative would be worse. However, i do not think most abortions happen when the brain is fully functioning (when the cerebral cortex forms). If it does... i'm against it unless it was to save a baby from pain or a mother from death. I'm glad mainly they happen before the baby is viable outside the mother. I'm going off memory here... but i'm pretty sure that's when the spinal cord attaches / the brain stem forms... can't remember.
brain activity happens at 6 weeks
Sure... at this point we should start teaching about abortions to one that wants to have it, showing them alternatives, etc.
A fetus has, "enough to live for that" too.
I didn't know you have had a conversation with a fetus.
So does an "unwanted" child once they get adopted, which on average happens in about 2 years
How many foster kids or babies go without getting adopted? How many age out of the system without a home? Now... multiply at least a million to that if everyone was forced to have kids... you're an unrealistic person man. Even our last conversations... you don't live in reality. Or, you just don't understand humanity and future consequences very well.
You won't commit suicide and I don't want you to either, so this is not a dare.
Apparently, you also have reading comprehension problems making this idiotic remark... "outward pain" meaning i'd be a drug lord that feeds people to pigs. I'm not suicide material buddy.
There are many non-controversial examples where this is not the case.
You're also dense... jesus man, I just told you what i meant... why are you making me re-read my own last posts... I said you are harming yourself with whatever you said about pro-choicers hurting you. Everything you just listed is harming "another" conscious human being... i'm not advocating to abort conscious babies.
They have separate DNA and often separate blood types. Your body can't have 2 different blood types or 2 different DNA codes.
You watch too much Steven Crowder...
The law dos it on murder, on rape, on kidnapping, and assault.
Again... this is bc it's harming another human conscious human being... the person raping, assaulting, murdering... "Is the one" imposing their worldview onto you... therefore, we stop it through laws. How is that hard to understand, freaking zeus.
If you don't like the image, don't support abortions; simple as that.
I don't like the image of a hemorrhoid surgery but i'll get one if i have too. You're arguments are too influenced by others man... it's boring to be honest. No creativity. This just feels like something someone else convinced you to believe... that's why you are incapable of looking at the whole picture.
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