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@Mopac
Well then, i would shake his hand. So i'm not really worried past that. God would know who i am and what my path is... other than that, he would also know i don't need him to look over me... i got this.There is no good without God. God is good all the time. All the time God is good. The most good.
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@RationalMadman
Oh, i get it now. I don't usually catch on to things like that... that's why i hate typing overall. You can't see the person to know their intentions. Anyways, yeah... fuck em' if you like em' it don't bother me. I've had some moments in my life. Best being when i was rolling on E and three guys gave me the best freaking light show i've ever had. Freaking hell i won't forget that.
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@Mopac
Your experience is your personal relationship with God. It is an experience unique to you.
If that's how you see it i really have no problem with it. I personally don't know much or care much if there is a god or not... but if there is, and it's a good god, i would gladly have a friendship relationship with said god. Other than that, i'm more worried about my experience(s). That's what matters in the end of the day bc everything i have to deal with is through my eyes. Unless one day someone hacks my mind or something, but that's a different story.
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@Mopac
Your experience isn't all that is real.
Sure. But it is always my experience. Who else is looking through my eyes? Who else is in my mind? Reality is what i see. Any other alternative is the same as dying and being gone forever. As long as i see through these eyes and experience, a portion - a large portion sometimes, is a reality that's only true to me. Of course i share reality, but what about all those hours of dreaming, day-dreaming, in my mind... those are my reality too. I'm not a hard Solipsist ... but i do think everyone has a reality within themselves that is their own.
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@bsh1
Why? I'm being honest that i'm not sexually attracted to males. I'm being honest. The rest of my comment should have made clear that my opinion doesn't matter however. Love is love... and i accept anyone involved in which ever way. I think you guys are misconstruing that i just think guys are gross in general... i didn't mean that. I meant sexually, i'm not attracted to guys. It's gross to me. Just as it would be gross for a gay male to think of laying with a female. What's wrong with saying it truthfully? It has no bearing on accepting people in general for who they are... which is the positive side of my message you and rational seem to be skipping.It's funny how you worded this, given the topic of the thread.
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@RationalMadman
I'm simply not attracted "sexually" one bit to males. I'm just being honest. I think that's gross (sexually), but my opinion doesn't matter when it comes to acceptance... which is the more important part of my comment. I accept everyone for who they are even if i don't necessarily agree with their sexual attractions... i know it's coming out of love which is why i'm strongly for pride month. I'm actually even more for it bc i understand the struggle this group has gone through to be noticed for who they are... i think it's wrong love was ever suppressed in this way. But don't fault me for being honest about my sexual attractions.I am not sure where you got the idea that I would enjoy that reply but I don't. Men are not disgusting beings.
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@RationalMadman
I'm pretty damn straight... i think guys are gross. Fuck em' ... but i think one of the most beautiful manifestations on this planet is a beautiful women. If a guy see's that in another guy, or a girl see's that in another girl... than i think that's beautiful and should be celebrated if it was ever suppressed.
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@Mopac
We aren't having the same experience.The reality I am experiencing is different than the reality you are experiencing.So are you going to acknowledge this or make an appeal to solipsism?
What is an appeal to solipsism? And so what if i made one?
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@Harikrish
First of all... you have no clue what "I" will go through and what will happen to me. I'm pretty conscious my man. Enough so to know that both of those sound like hell to me. Well, the repeat the cycle part is no different than me just dying and turning into nothing. That's why i don't consider reincarnation much bc it's no different than death just being an end. As to Nirvana... i know myself enough to know if that is what happens the first thing i will think or say is "fuck this i'm out." Therefore, that would not be a desirable outcome either. Now... i can't tell you that you're wrong bc i have no clue what happens after death... but what i can confidently tell you is that those two alternatives i would classify under the "hell" umbrella.Then you will repeat the cycle of rebirths like a mouse on a threadmill.
But here is the thing that is so interesting to me about eastern philosophy and beliefs such as nirvana or oneness. You guys are talking about a pretty profound and interesting platform... it very well could be that platform. However, out of every mystic i've listened to, eastern teacher, or person i've met in real life... they all don't fully grasp the implications of infinity. Becoming this "infinite consciousness" ... they just don't get how it's a good idea, but they don't see the implications beyond what they want / what they are to that platform. That's interesting to me and why i hold those philosophies in higher regard than others. It's bc your side of the world has been trying to figure out the platform for years. More than any other religion and respectfully, by asking questions. I respect that... but don't for one second try to think you know who i am to this platform... bc you don't. I'm the expert in that regard.
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@crossed
i think the haunted house stereotype existed before Disney though am i wrong ???
Disney popularized it (and is likely where you are getting that stereotype thing from and why google shows those images). Haunted places could really be anything. History matters more in general than size. Location matters too... it all comes down to how the place looks and makes you feel.
Mansions (or any big place for that matter) has always been scary/creepy bc simply it's big. A couple of my family members have some pretty big houses and when i go sleep over it's sorta creepy bc there is so much space that i can't be aware of constantly. For instance if a burglar broke in one side of the house... i wouldn't have any clue bc they are so spread out even if they were loud i wouldn't hear them. That vs. my modestly sized home... i'm aware of everywhere and can hear everything that goes on in any place. In bigger places, it's that sense of being unsure/lost that makes it creepy.
That is only if you think about such things. I'm use to big homes so i think nothing of it. But if you believe in ghosts and demons... it will likely always creep you out more than a small personal home would. But even a small home is creepy, sometimes creepier. I had a friend where his house simply looked haunted. It was rundown, had holes in the walls, and a profound spiritual experience actually happened once when i was there. So, the stereotype of haunted places wouldn't be mansions... it would be the history, location and how it looks. If you go into a mansion with dark wood and dim lights, that would creep you out more than a mansion with bright lights, chandeliers, hopeful pictures, and a good feel. One of my friends has a three story mansion looking out to the beach. It has no walls on the side that faces the beach. I have never felt uncomfortable at that house even in the days i was into ghost stuff... it's heaven on earth that bastard's dad owns.
There is a logical explanation to everything if you just think about the opposite arguments to whatever your believing. That is how i figured out heaven ain't for me... which you shouldn't skip that question / at least think about it bc it shows how what you've chosen to believe doesn't work for everyone.
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@crossed
haunted house being mansion stereotype originated from what i said.
No... that originated from Disney. Almost every horror movie, every haunted house show, are all in small regular houses. The bigger places are usually insane asylums, hotels, etc... very few mansions. You are deluding yourself to this one realization you've likely learned from a Disney movie/ride. What now? Are you going to say Disney is the right hand of Satan? Why are you deluding yourself?
heaven and hell are real so. don't be stupid about it.
You're not getting it... like every Christian i bring this paradox up to. I don't care if they are real... why would i? They are both hell. But this also exposes another interesting truth. Human beings wrote the Bible from their own bias points of view... it's absolutely clear to someone like me that you're wrong. Every hope of heaven i have heard from a Christian literally describes a place i would call hell. You're the one being stupid thinking an ultimate being like a god made this mistake. Humans make mistakes, humans are fallible... which is exactly why religion is flawed.
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@crossed
satan makes people rich than haunts themyou know on how almost all the haunted houses are big mansions. why is it always rich people and not poor people i believe that this is because these houses once belonged to people who had sold there souls to Satan in exchange for wealth.the devil made them rich they bought all there luxury like mansions. but then satan turned on them and started haunting them. thats why all the haunted houses are mansions and not poor people
Oh... and btw, half my family is basically rich... so this makes no sense since none of them sold their souls. And, if you follow ghost hunters... most of their time is spent in regular houses. Why is it that demon possession always happens in small houses? To an innocent individual? Could it be bc their parents have been raping the poor kids imagination since childhood about demons and the devil... messing up the kids brain chemistry? All of your logic is easily flipped right back on you.
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@crossed
When i die... i don't want to go to paradise as described by the Bible. For me, to live eternally without death is hell (my paradise is living and dying - in any reality). So my question is... why doesn't Christianity know of my paradise? If i believe you i go to hell, if i don't believe you i go to hell. So... how do you address this paradox?
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@Swagnarok
Religion rapes conscience... not people celebrating and being proud of who they are... especially since religion has been raping their conscience for thousands of years. You're religion is flawed... period.openly promoted and celebrated BY the schools themselves amounts to rape of conscience
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@Harikrish
But what if my ultimate goal isn't Nirvana?
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@TheRealNihilist
If lets say we were playing chess
To me that's a bad example, but i get what you mean. But with stuff that's in the realm of possibilities.. you can do a lot more than something with established rules. There are no established rules with time travel (really)... so these writers can make things up. If you watch the series, they do make things up like negative tacions and crap like that. What i see is that they are trying... which is good to me since i don't look for mess-ups. But it does peak my interest when i see they are trying to make sense of things... and, that is at least noticeable. But honestly, you don't have to watch these series to notice the trying... if you're into comics, or even those animated series... you likely notice what i'm talking about in regards to trying to make it fit. Since i'm sure they do it with those too. But since this is in the realm of "we have no clue what the true implications of time-travel is" i'm sure there are mistakes... that's why i don't look for them, unless they are just blatantly obvious. I'll have to watch the animated shows you are talking about to compare them with the shows. I'm kinda a good case study since all i'm looking for is blatant missteps. That's how i judge if someone is truly off. The more it makes me think, i like the direction it's going. I've noticed at least with these shows, they make me think. However, i'm no expert in science so they might be able to get a lot past me. I know surface level stuff, like when they talk about multi-verses, etc... but last nights episode i watched was funny. Flashes, someone (i won't give spoilers), that also was a speedster asked if she can punch the Higgs boson... i thought that was funny knowing what the Higgs is. Surface level stuff i understand... so it's just fun to be honest. I like what comics is doing with this stuff, since my beliefs, if you took anything away from our other conversations, is a hope that worlds like these are hopefully possible.
I doubt that is the case with the tv-series you are mentioning.
Well, i think with series and comics, they do actually try. I think they do hope they can make you think more with these types of platforms. But with movies they have less wiggle room. But overall, i think they are just trying to be fun. Be fun in the the sense of layman having fun listening to the wild theories... and, from what i've noticed, series or trilogies (or more), try to at least cater to people that know what they're talking about. It always falls a little short bc these writers aren't experts... but i think they do try. Maybe they consult experts and write off what they feel afterwards. If i had to guess, that's how i think it goes down. Like, If someone taught me about string theory... a multi-verse type comic could follow but obviously flawed since i don't understand string theory like a scientists does.
I watched it and didn't like it.
Oh.. as long as you gave it a chance that's all i can say. I like it. But that doesn't mean you should like it too so i respect that. Funny, in your last comment i think you said it's a teen thing... i guess i'm an annoying teen at heart, bc i love it. But then again, i love anything that is fantasy or sci-fy... so... it really has to be horrible for me to not like it. But i haven't found one that horrible yet...
Oh... I just remembered... i just watched Legion on Hulu... that was bad-ass and messed with my mind. Since Legion is suppose to be one of the most powerful mutants there is... i'm excited to see where that ends up, but i would recommend that show.
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@TheRealNihilist
You are talking about the TV-series? I haven't even heard of it to even comment. Just a general point. A thing is still bad even if it is takes a long time to explain. So basically the TV-series can still be bad even if they stretch out the content and explanation. No amount of explanation will make 1+1=3.
I get what you mean, that's if they just do a sloppy power thing without thinking about it. But when you have more time to set it up... you can fully explain all the angles. Plus, even if you mess up... you can go back and just make up reasons for why it didn't happen the way everyone thought. You just have more time to be creative. For instance, if Avengers was a TV series... they can fix all the plot-holes people talked about in the next show (or few shows or even season). That's all i mean about having more time to explain these powers in detail. But if you like these types of shows... i'd suggest starting off with Arrow. It's actually pretty darn good. DC is doing really good on the TV series side in my opinion. Edit: This is the order (which matters bc they cross-over down the line) Arrow, Flash, Supergirl, Legends of Tomorrow.
Forgot about the series part. I have watched many Animated series but not live-action because they are not really what I like.Examples of what I am talking about:
I'll check them out if they are on one of the streaming services i use.
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@Ramshutu
What if there are multiple realities and this reality is exactly how it's suppose to be? It's like saying Iron Man 2 is better than 1 so... 1 doesn't exist.
Than again, i define "god" a lot different than most religions. But in some religions, "god is everything," my above analogy holds bc they don't presuppose an all kind / evil god. In god world, evil and good don't exist. Which makes sense... how can they in an infinite being. Evil is a manifestation of fear of dying. Without that... you are just left in a blissful state of indifference. So, this reality would just be one of many creations and is exactly how it's suppose to be. At this point, god is smarter than humans... infinitely so, bc it would know exactly why everything is happening.
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This is interesting. But it seems to me they are throwing out the word "atheism" a little loosely.
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@Fallaneze
I have 8 or so years of education. I think all it has done is make me more open-minded to more than one possibility. However, being obsessed with this subject itself, i think even without education i would have came to this realization, but who knows. I think it also depends on the degree. My a lot of my family members that are doctors either just believe in a higher power or just say who knows. A particular family member that is a neurologist simply says humans may never know. He hates abstract thoughts however, so he is just how he is. Ask him, everything is the product of your brain... but push that to a "what if your brain is a part of a bigger brain" he will say "what if there is a golf ball on the moon." Honestly, i think it just comes down to the person. I actually think spiritual intelligence is a thing. It's clear some people just get uncomfortable in thinking about spiritual possibilities. With all that said, i think educated people are a little more inclined to call out spirituality, like religion, for being man-made. Therefore, if there are polls asking college grads if they believe this religion or that... and than have, agnostic, atheist, and other as one option... it makes sense why the "other" option is not only picked more, but on the rise.
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@TheRealNihilist
From what I remember Flash created a new universe because of his choice to save his mother.
From what i can remember, every time he goes into the past he creates a new timeline if he changes something big. But i don't remember that far back into the season to remember if they covered all grounds. I actually don't remember the flashpoint episodes at all to be honest. I'd have to rewatch them. As for the running back in time... i think that bc he goes into the speed force and goes back in time through that... but again, can't remember. I really never pay full attention to look for plot-holes. All i know is they are less noticeable in TV series to me bc they have more time to set them up i think.
Edit: Btw... i was talking about the live-action TV series. They are all on Netflix which is where i watch them.
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@TheRealNihilist
Do you watch any of the DC verse series? the Flash / Legends of Tomorrow series covers a lot of time travel stuff and i think they do it pretty good. They got deep with it (multi-verse, timeline changes, branched realities, things they made up). I haven't fully payed attention to find plot-holes, but it isn't as easily noticeable as the time-travel plot-holes in movies.I mainly have a problem because of the replay value. I wasn't so impacted by time-travel but on several viewings you tend to realize things that you did not before. With this in mind the time-travel aspect will definitely be a problem eventually and was kind of an impact for brief moments when watching the movie
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@WisdomofAges
On the contrary....the fools who are HYPNOTIZED and BRAINWASHED to OBEY their Halloween preacher clowns are PRISONERSin a maze without an EXIT...
I absolutely agree.
TRUE WISDOM does NOT come from memorizing JEW - JESUS - ALLAH Bible Comic Book VOMIT....it comes from an OPEN MINDto the possibilities of anything and everything without needing to be ATTACHED and CAGED to it...
Again, i agree.
It just seems like they've trapped people like you in a sense too. I mean, someone needs to point these things out, but that sucks you and others have to do it over and over again. I think someone needs to find a way to come down on these religions in a way that is concise and iron clad.
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@Harikrish
In life? Or does this have to do with the afterlife too?consciousness and ultimate awareness is the goal
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@Harikrish
Hari... try not to get banned bc i want to ask you some questions. I'm going to derail this thread though if that's okay with you.
Would you say Hinduism is the oldest religion?
My observation of mystics from India is that they don't look at it as a religion but a way of life... would you say that's true?
Would you say the most important thing is to look within and continue asking questions? I feel Hinduism has been doing that... which is good imo.
Do you agree with the "everything is a manifestation of consciousness" idea?
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@DebateArt.com
Cool feature with the TU option now. I've always liked that feature on sites. However, it would be more effective imho if we can see who gave us the TU. Bc then you'll know who agrees with your argument or likes your post. I've noticed sites do the simple hover over the likes and a list of the names shows up under... don't know how hard that is to do for you but just one idea if you agree with showing names.
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@TheRealNihilist
If you mean they had a TV show budget to create the fight scenes I feel you. Infinity War was more grandiose and Endgame had one fight scene comparable to Infinity War which was the ending fight.
Yeah... that's what got to me. I liked the level of fight scenes vs. talking Infinity War had... that was perfect to me and actually why i liked Aquaman so much. The fight scene vs. talking ratio was similar.
The rest of the stuff... i don't try to think about too much... like plot-holes of the time travel. Simply bc the biggest plot hole is that Thanos had all the stones... he was basically at god level. All he had to do was use the time stone to know what happened. So... i really don't think about that much bc it's hard to make a movie with these kinds of powers. You'd really have to focus on the powers then (explaining them, their limitations, their weaknesses, their loopholes, etc.) and not the talking/character development. It's something they needed to set up long time ago.
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Basically everyday... coffee and water. If i buy my coffee from starbucks: Large ice coffee, two shots espresso, sugar free vanilla, splash of milk. On weekends (if i drink), Ketel One vodka and Guinness. That's basically all i drink.
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@Mopac
"the less delusional you are the more you are aware of your imperfections."
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@Mopac
If you are truly in a state of prelest, it is unlikely that you will respect my opinion on the matter anyway, even if I am telling you the truth. That being the case, would it really be beneficial for me to give an observation?
Sure, go ahead. I really don't mind. I personally do not think i'm in prelest off the definition i agreed with you on. But that's about all i know of the word. I should read the rest of the wiki... but remember, i learn better through conversation.
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@Mopac
So as an Orthodox Christian... do you think i have a spiritual illness? That's really the question, bc i'm not like everyone else. I know my spiritual path as well as you know yours. I know ours may be different, but that might not be true... but, as far as you know we're different. Do i just give that difference up?
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@Alec
Let me tell you this... i will bet you my life i won't die until i die. But until then, i want to be immortal in this reality... whatever keeps me alive i'm all for. So... if i have to consume organs, then give em up. But... i wouldn't force anyone to give me their organs... bc ultimately, i'm not a afraid of death. If i don't get an organ and i die. Who cares?
I think this issue is stupid bc i'm not afraid to die. For those that are... they'll get greedy about it. For those that will gain income... they will get greedy about it. That's reality. We can't change that until people aren't afraid to die. Will that every happen? I don't think in our lifetime, but i could be wrong bc it's possible under certain circumstances.
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@Alec
I haven't read this thread... but why do you think people don't want to save other people?
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@WisdomofAges
Why are you letting these religions imprison your mind?
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@David
how about you give a direct link to the Youtube channel this will be live on and i'll watch.
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@Mopac
because the less delusional you are the more you are aware of your imperfections.
Than teach me a little more about this word... i might be interpreting it incorrectly. Bc... i totally agree with this statement.
I don't know where you get scare tactic out of prelest.
Bc it sets you up as someone delusional if you don't see "god" how Orthodoxy see's god. It's very easy to manipulate people off such a word.
I also don't understand how you could think it is an evil word
I define evil as imprisonment of another human being in every degree and variation thereof. Torture, rape, murder... those are easy categories of imprisonment. So, if the above is true... that you are delusional unless you believe me... is a form of imprisonment. But this gets technical too... ask me questions if you'd like to explore it.
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@Mopac
Prelest just sounds like a scare tactic made up by humans in order to keep people from thinking for themselves. If you can't see how many man-made elements are in that word... i don't know what to tell you. It's actually a pretty evil word in my opinion.
Edit: But i forgot to mention... there were some good things. I'm paraphrasing... "Those that say their saints... the closer you are to god the more you see your imperfections." ... i liked that line, but i don't think it has much to do with the word.
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@disgusted
Projection.you can't be honest can you?
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@TheRealNihilist
I would agree to a level bc i hate dramas and i don't watch these movies to mimic them... but i agree character development is important... but this was freaking Endgame man... we had 10 years of character development... i wanted to see them fighting together all powers combined at peek level. All they had to do to mildly make me content is have an epic fight scene the first time they went after Thanos... but it was like 2 hours of talking instead. I understand how some see it as a goodbye and disagree with me bc it was a good outro for them... But i just feel ripped off. I can imagine so many cool fighting scenes they could have thrown in, but it just didn't happen every time... I was frustrated by the end fight scene... then, Iron Man dies and the girl next to me starts sniffling for the next 10 minutes. Maybe i just need to watch it again alone... but first go, i was frustrated. I was waiting for an epic showdown... not a TV show-ish level film.
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@Mopac
Well, an Orthodox Priest is certainly an expert on Orthodoxy.
Sure. I will always listen and learn, but i don't trust they know my soul... i mean, the parable of talents is something that i learned from the Bible that i took to heart and apply everyday. It's kinda spiritual how i found it too. I was really lost and just opened up that page... changed my life from that point on bc it was exactly what i needed to hear/read. Like i said, it's very complex... but in my quest of listening, i've also heard others.
I'll check out the link and let you know what i think. I'm done for tonight so i'll catch you later.
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@Mopac
It depends on the field. Most fields that are reality based, i tend to trust... but of course with healthy skepticism (i learn better when i play devil's advocate)... i've noticed experts like it when i do that bc they can see i'm trying to understand. It's also a good way to spot non-experts.Do you trust someone who is an expert in their field to be able to speak with knowledge about their field?
In regards to spirituality... it's a different story but it's really complex. I put it in three categories. The platform, who i am to that platform, and how it applies to this reality. Who i am to the platform no one knows better than i do. The platform and how it applies to this reality i'm willing to listen, but i'm also a some what expert in this field... so do i "trust" wouldn't be the right word. Open minded and curious, i think is better.
I don't know, default for me is rebel, but i wouldn't mess with a math teacher... this is a really complex question and very nuanced.
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@TheRealNihilist
Good... okay. But part 1 was way better bc they actually spent money on the CGI. I got the feeling they were trying to pocket as much of the money they could off part 2. They knew it's going to be huge, so they held back. I mean, cut scenes from other movies, most of the scenes were dialog, even the climax wasn't as good as it could have been. I mean, in part one when Iron Man, Spider Man, and all them fought Thanos... he freaking brought a world down on them... and they all went off... that was sick. There was really nothing that intense in part 2. I really get the feeling they were trying to save money to pocket as much as they could off part 2... shady freaking Hollywood.Good movie right?
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@Mopac
Yes, you're right. But i'm sure you understand how important it would be for the adult to be cautious with their trust.I mean that children have to give their trust. Their parents... teachers... baby sitters... whatever the case.may be.
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@Mopac
One other thing that i may not be clear on... there are people you can be loyal to that you disagree with and possibly don't enjoy being around bc they have different interests. My main point is to at least know the person enough to understand your difference before you give them that trust. Children are open books, but a good example bc of that. It's easy being loyal to them bc you know who they are.
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@Mopac
Well... yeah. You should be conscious of the world around you. I'd save someone from a burning car regardless of how i feel about them bc kindness means i understand that they likely have someone that is loyal to them. Same logic applies with children. Start with kindness and let them earn loyalty. In the case of Children, especially if you're close to them, they are really good at earning loyalty quickly. It's older humans you should worry about.But I will say, as far as what you are talking about, children don't have much choice in these matters.
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@Mopac
Sounds very self centered.
So i should just throw out my trust to everyone... right. Only those i can trust get my loyalty. Everyone else in the world starts with my kindness. I don't see the benefit of blindly giving people my loyalty. Call that self-centered, i'll call it foolish.
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