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Pretty good for a "gamethrowing troll" if I do say so myself. Of course, I got lynched after this...
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What's odd is scum don't know my role (given how quickly Casey confessed, unless that was a really strange gambit). So how did WF know I didn't move at night? Maybe that was a calculated risk.
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@ILikePie5
Why does it matter? Also, I could be dead by then.
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@Mikal
We can't lynch someone else. It just becomes a no lynch. With an even number of players, that doesn't really set us back, but it helps to narrow PoE.
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Okay, time to announce my role: I can overturn the day's lynch. Mikal didn't confess, so I'm gonna save him. Honestly most of my confidence he was guilty was a bluff to push him into confessing if he was scum. Casey confessed very quickly, so clearly scum aren't aware of my role.
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Makes sense why Mikal wanted me not to claim dp1 lol. Unlucky that he got scum 3 times in a row, but I still think he could have played better.
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@whiteflame
So, just to be clear, you're confirming that you (when Ultra was in control) did not do anything NP1?
Yes, I am confirming that. You are basically cleared in my view.
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@ILikePie5
You can fake Tracker results especially combined with a Rolecop that presumably got results last night.
Casey didn't rolecop me, I am close to 100% certain. Can't reveal why until tomorrow though.
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@ILikePie5
Though more likely than not, it’s Mikal/WF
Trust me, it's very unlikely to be WF. Remember WF had tracker results yesterday.
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To clarify, I'm pretty sure it's Mikal and I won't have to do anything tonight. But if it's not, I have a guaranteed way to solve the game tonight.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@WyIted
Listen up.
As far as I am concerned, every player is almost 100% confirmed town except Mikal. Tonight, I will solve the game, and tomorrow, I will 100% affiliation confirm myself. If I don't 100% affiliation confirm myself tomorrow, you can lynch me. However, for reasons I cannot reveal atm, I will not reveal anything about my role today.
We need to lynch Mikal today though. His role claim is irrelevant, everyone else has been confirmed town.
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I am opposed to any name change. I like the loyalty to the name of what revived DDO and saved 1v1 texg debate online from extinction.
We can have both and redirect.
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@David
I personally really like lidebate as I am a huge fan of lichess.
It's available and proven to be brandable with the success of lichess.com and debate.org. If you think we should just go with that one you can grab it and I'll trust your judgment.
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@David
As most of you have heard Mike is planning on giving me ownership of the site. We are thinking of doing an entire redesign and a rebrand. Do you think we should rebrand? If so, what names would you suggest?
I propose we let anyone submit a name and then send a survey out where users rate each name. Proposals should be available domain names.
A few proposals from me:
lidebate.com (like lichess)
dinnerwithsocrates.com
netspat.com
debateonline.xyz
thewarofwords.com
debateclub.co
However, I think we should wait on rebranding to the new name and focus more on advertising and adding features. debateart.com is fine for now.
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@Barney
What about debate.com? It looks like it's for sale with the owner's contact info.
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Wait no the one I'm thinking of isn't deleted (it's locked though). I see how this one crosses the line with the current CoC.
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The thread is deleted.
Okay, I think I remember the one you're talking about now.
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@Barney
GoDaddy is running a couple little scams which it’s caught up in
Can you clarify this?
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It's also not super clear to me which posts got Remy banned. Maybe AR can tell me? It seems like it was right after this post, but it's not clear how that crosses the line. I could see this one being offensive, but it was clearly done to make a point, not because Remy actually believes those things.
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@David
The use of racial slurs or slurs against any other protected group
Which groups are protected, and which terms are designated as slurs? For example, is midg*t a slur? Are exceptions made for slurs describing one's own group (e.g. black people saying the n-word) and if so, how are they enforced?
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you want me to betray Father to appease peers here. No.
I didn't say your speech should be banned, I said less speech should be banned in general. Even if I'd told you not to offer an opinion in this thread, I don't see how that's a betrayal of Catholic beliefs.
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The evangelical (so not all, specifically evangelical) Protestant idea that you can interpret God and the Bible how you feel is right and fit God to you, is Satanic.
The Catholic Church keeps adding official teachings. You could be Catholic and not a heretic 100 years ago while not believing things the Catholic Church teaches today, in fact Catholics literally had to interpret teachings themselves for anything the Church didn't explicitly clarify. Was the Catholic Church okay with being satanic 100 years ago? And there was no official NT canon until a few church councils after Christianity took off...does that make all the early Christians satanic?
The Catholic Church has declared evolution is compatible with the Bible but also that Catholics don't have to believe it. That's literally telling people to decide for themselves on that issue.
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They will and individuals including me can end up in jail if they defended ww2 nazi genocide(s)
For something other people post?
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Do you want this site to exist in Europe?
I don't think Europe is gonna care too much about a small site like this, and if they did the mods can just censor posts by region. Also it only matters where the servers are. Right now I think they're in Russia so by your logic we should be banning anyone who criticizes Putin.
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The topic was about Satan. Satan was fine with all those killings too.
Sure, but then you also said "I think a lot of Christians deny that part of God and Jews where Moses kills the boys on Gods behalf, I do not. I prefer a warrior Lord that will annihilate evil when needed, not a God that will let evil thrive and giggle as I scream save me. So, I appreciate Father of the trinity and his fierceness."
That went beyond arguing the topic and was a defense of mass killing.
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No I think US is the only country.
And defending Hitler is legal in the US.
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Demand the 2 Jewish mods and the Christian (I think Catholic) mod Barney as well as Orthodox Christian Vader to defend it.You are singling me out unfairly.
I don't think any of them are fundamentalists (nor would fundamentalists have to defend everything Moses does), and none of them chose to defend it. This site has never censored beliefs, only things people choose to explicitly state. Also I'm not saying you should be censored, just that I think it would be unrealistic to censor the things you want to censor while allowing what you are saying here. Your proposed censorship is very strict compared to the current CoC.
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Do you want this website to exist or be taken down by law enforcement and many members arrested?Justifying Hitler's genocide will make that happen.
Plenty of countries where that's legal to justify as long as you are not inciting further violence. Also plenty of countries where Christianity is illegal. Idk that anyone's coming for this site, and if they did they wouldn't ban it out the gate, they would force mods to censor speech.
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That is a Jewish thing btw and 2 mods are Jewish.So you said every mod would have to be Christian, no Jewish too.
Should mods enforce thread topics based on whether they fall in line with their religious beliefs? Should the CoC spell out exceptions for Jewish and Christian beliefs?
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The Old Testament is usually seen as inerrant word of God.
Yes, by some religions. Some would say that Hitler or Muhammad is inerrant. Some think all religions are false. If we allow you to defend mass killings on that basis, we have to let everyone do it. Which, to be fair, I'd probably be fine with allowing. I think a debate site should allow bad opinions, if everyone is right about everything then it's impossible to debate.
Also you don't have to respond to the thread at all, so even if you believe something you don't have to defend it.
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The topic is dangerous.
How? Who, besides you, has said anything that would make this thread possibly deserve censorship?
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I support closing and deleting this thread and warning Lucy to neber bring it up again.
Why should Lucy be punished for saying killing children is bad? Even if you think killing children is good in this specific instance, why does opposing it deserve censorship?
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Which God endorsed the genocide of his chosen people (Jews), the disabled and more? Name the God.
The version of God that Hitler's followers believed in. I'm not saying Hitler's religion wasn't wack, but do you expect every mod to believe that the Yahweh is the one true God? What if some mod believes that the Midianites are God's chosen people?
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If you are Christian and deny that God commanded Moses to fight that war, you are a liar.I did not say every child is evil.However every human except Jesus and Mary actually is gravitated towards evil under genuine Christian doctrine, original sin is proof.
If this belief is allowed, then I think we also have to allow people with Hitler profile pics or basically anyone defending genocide as long as they claim that God endorses it. Unless you expect every mod to be Christian and make an exception for the Bible.
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@LucyStarfire
Also he says it wasn't about rape, so he's explicitly not intentionally defending rape.
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@LucyStarfire
The mentioned verse he supports talks of rape too.
He doesn't explicitly defend the whole verse, just the killing.
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@LucyStarfire
Please ban Adaptable for trying to argue that murder and rape of children is fine according to him
Tbf, he only defended the killings. He said nothing about rape.
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@LucyStarfire
Not really.
Why not?
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@LucyStarfire
Satan never killed anyone in whole Bible.
He convinced Adam and Eve to eat the fruit that made humanity mortal. So he killed everyone.
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@Mharman
There will be the same number of debates either way, question is how many are rated. Also advertising can help.
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@David
Did Mike give a timeline for the ownership transfer or is that still up in the air?
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@David
Do we have access to the code yet? If so, didn't see it posted in the Discord.
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@Mharman
I think “rated” should be the default as well
If new users start a lot of rated debates it makes noob sniping a lot easier.
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@Greyparrot
@thett3
On the one hand as an ex POTUS you’d think he should win in a walk away but he also had denied the results of the last election, was facing four different criminal issues three of which were serious but then easily wins in a landslide. I always think it’s weird to remember that the GOP had a primary costing tens of millions with debates etc and the guy who didn’t bother with any of it won easily
I think the criminal issues helped him among his base, and the name recognition boosted him a lot. Plus the criminal issues didn't really change his public perception from how he was seen in 2016. Being a TV personality did help, which makes him a decent candidate all things considered, but a lot of it is because Trump's strategy is just focusing on winning the primary. I think luck always plays a big role. I mean look how far Elon got just being rich, if he'd been born in the US he'd have a shot at the presidency too in this environment.
the popular vote isn’t relevant, 270 is
Sure, but you can get to 270 without appealing to most people. Electoral advantage is mostly luck, which is different from being a strong candidate. Also winning 51% of a state gets you the whole state, so it makes very close races look a lot less close.
Lol being president isn't a primary autowin. See Biden 2024
Okay but Biden was a very low bar and still almost got the nomination until that disastrous debate performance. Really Biden is proof that you can still almost get the nomination even if you can't form a complete sentence.
In the land of the blind, the one eye man is king supreme.
That's fair for the most part. But I don't think it's the land of the blind so much as plenty of decent two-eyed candidates get filtered out through bad luck (not being rich, not having relatives in politics, etc.)
It’s just extremely unusual for someone to skip politics entirely and then run and win the presidency
In the GOP primaries I think being an outsider was always seen as fine. Then in the general election he had a massive political party behind him, which was enough for a decent shot. I do think all Hillary had to do for a runaway victory was not be corrupt, but she had her share of scandals too and that put Trump on a roughly level playing field.
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Remy thread = Rage bait + Strawman
Title is something like "Gay men secretly love AIDS"
Then the post will be something like
"Gay men: We need to do something about AIDS!
Me: Have you tried not having sixteen different sexual partners?
Gay men: You're homophobic!
Gay men don't understand basic cause and effect. This is why they shouldn't be allowed to vote until they pass a cognitive reasoning test or commit to a monogamous relationship."
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@thett3
Trump’s primary record is 3-0
Well in 2020 he was the president, so I'd give him a 2-0 record here. He deserves some credit for that but that's kind of it, I think anyone would have close to 50% odds of winning the presidency once they win a primary. Nothing convinces me he did better than a generic Republican would in a general election.
one could also say his electoral record speaks for itself
He could never get more than 50% of the vote. His record is hardly unprecedented. Are we just pretending that presidents like Bush, Obama, and Reagan never existed? Trump is a rich TV personality who invested his name branding in winning a Republican primary in a crowded field after Democrats had the White House for 10 years and made voters tired of them. Then a bunch of inflation happened under Biden. It's not much beyond that.
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