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@TWS1405_2
So you agree that I'm right then.
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Every attribute you described of Kamala Harris is stronger in both DeSantis and Trump, do we agree on that?
Not by a long shot.
I have my own characterizations of DeSantis and Trump and where their attributes falter.
Would you prefer Biden, Harris, Trump or DeSantis?To me it's Harris by far.
100% DeSantis.
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@TWS1405_2
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He never actually apologised, never was punished, never anything since they even promoted him to deputy moderator.This guy knows how to source-spam and chokehold the opponent by taking the more peer-reviewed side of any debate source-wise and hammers home victories like that. Oromagi is 'invincible' until he isn't, as a mediocre debater namedFruit_Inspector showed him.I just realised you can no longer filter won vs lost vs tied debates in someone's profile.
I don't see any issue with that. In debating, anything is fair game.
Great debaters lose to incompetents all the time.
If he plays dirty while debating, I couldn't care less.
My major concern is he and TWS are two sides of the same coin. They're both hyper-aggressive drama queens who have a habit of derailing forum threads just so they can lash out at each other. But the real problem is that oro is a drama queen with power and that's objectively WORSE! If he wasn't a moderator, what would there be for me to complain about?
With great power, comes great responsibility.
And oromagi wields that power with the emotional stability of an entitled white woman.
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What do you define competence as?
I define competence as meeting the minimal qualifications or having the ability to perform a job, according to professional expectation.
Many of our previous Founding Fathers have done great and terrible things. Because a lot of their achievements, they raised the standard of what an ideal president should be. But because of knuckleheads like Trump and Biden, they also lowered the threshold significantly.
The job of the President should be to maintain or improve the stability and safety of our economy, as well as manage the federal government. There are plenty of qualified black female candidates that meet the criteria for President. Kamala Harris does not for several reasons.:
- She is a grifter. I might be willing to give her the benefit of the doubt if she was authentic about her beliefs, but the fact is she doesn't give a damn about the nation or the people, she's concerned about having people support her.
- She is a snake. She was the worst choice for VP by Joe Biden. She has no loyalty to him and would openly condemn him if the left-wing media incentivized her to because of peer pressure. She has no moral compass and even if she personally liked Biden, it would not stop her from turning on him in a heart-beat.
- She is an evil person. Her history as a prosecutor had her pressing charges against plenty of nonviolent drug offenders and deliberately tried to withhold evidence that would've gotten people exonerated. (Here is the interview where she brags about these things.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgWZJZcwpnY
- She is incompetent. I mean this in two ways. 1. She's under-qualified for the role of president because of her inexperience in politics or economics and her education would make her a terrible fit. 2. She would undermine the very integrity of what being a President means and has not demonstrated the capacity that she even understands what a President does or what they're supposed to do.
Case in point, you REALLY don't want Kamala Harris as President.
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@Barney
Not offensive enough to constitute a CoC violation, and I highly doubt anyone gets penalized for lameness and unoriginality.and yet those are the worst crimes! 🤣
In GP's defense, I thought I was being hilarious when I called Rational "Rat-Man," but it turns out that nickname for him has been around longer than my account.
I also thought I was being really funny when I referred to Polytheist as "Mary Poppins," or BrotherD.Thomas as "BrainDead.Tumor"
The same is also true for GP with "Military LARPER" or "Fanchick."
Just as I'm sure oro assumed he was really clever with these obscure boomer references nobody gets.
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Ignoring everything else, I think this alone is one of many examples of hypocrisy in its purest form being displayed by Oromagi.This alone is proof of irrefutable double-standard BS that he has functioned with ever since he told me he would electrocute my testicles to torture me, as a nonconsented, uninvited 'banter' remark in a Mafia game here and got away completely unscathed.
Well, that's a shocker.
What do you mean by unscathed?
Might be slightly unethical for whiteflame to administer testicular-specific electroshock therapy as a disciplinary method every-time one of his mods lash out over a game of Mafia.
That said, I wouldn't feel comfortable with a moderator running around threatening to fry my balls either.
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@oromagi
I don't know where fanchick came from or what it is meant to suggest. I missed the origin story of that particular meme and would probably not have minded its giddy repetition so much with some context.
The origin of the name “Fanchick” is from an old thread where I addressed IWRA as a “Roosevelt Fangirl” to imply he was a stan for the former president.
Greyparrot only changed it slightly and immortalized it in the forums as a running gag, as retaliation for constant baiting from IWRA. GP only applied context for it once, which was different from mine. Originally, he was labeling IWRA as “fanchick” to mean he was obsessed with MSNBC.
I’m sure it was meant to be “insulting,” but it was really just a cheaper knockoff of one of my unclever names.
If GP didn’t explain the context to you, it’s not because of a deliberate attempt to conceal the offensiveness of an inside-joke.
It’s because GP failed to establish a consistent definition for the word that it changed too often, to the point that it lost its appeal and became meaningless and the punch-line just fell flat because GP couldn’t decide what the joke actually meant.
Any efforts to keep the nickname going was just a desperate attempt on his part to trigger IWRA. (He’s called IWRA worse names, but Fanchick is the only one he stuck with.)
Not offensive enough to constitute a CoC violation, and I highly doubt anyone gets penalized for lameness and unoriginality.
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@oromagi
Pejorative nicknames.
oh, shit. Who triggered wet Archie Bunker this time?
Personal attacks.
TWS, you keep saying that your bigotry has not been substantiated on this site but you are the only one who believes that and you are a fool.
Let's agree that heretoforward it is a sufficiently established fact that TWS1405 is a bigot and a racist. The only thing that change that fact is TWS.
And cross-thread contamination.
Just as you assumed the other day that a French teenager was a criminal and an immigrant and a drug addict based exclusively on your misperception of skin color, your hasty generalizations about all LGBTQIA+ is a perfect example of how you lump every OTHER you're too dumb to relate to into some kind of frightening enemy. Not all LGBTQIA+ think the same about Trans people. Hell, look at Jerry Falwell.
I’m not following your logic here, oromagi.
As far as I’m concerned, your accusations of homophobia, transphobia, and racism may very well be justified.
It’s not the insults or personal attacks I’m objecting to. It’s your double standard when it comes to modding.
Which raises the question.:
- How is it that inoffensive nicknames are declared unacceptable and rise to the standard of harassment, but then repeatedly engaging with TWS’s posts on such an aggressive and personal level is okay to you?
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@Barney
@whiteflame
Even if TWS's behavior is questionable.
Do the current attacks by oromagi warrant action by the Enforcement or are they still within the scope of being considered acceptable?
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My intuition also tells me the links posted by Vegasgiants are fake.
Check into them and let me know what you find.
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@FLRW
@ADreamOfLiberty
@Vegasgiants
As a self-proclaimed expert on the Global Warming hoax, I can certainly say it is the only myth that society and science bends backwards deeply for.
The fraud Wallace Broecker wanted to fabricate something so that politicians could rob its citizens of money by taxing them extra for these bogus policies, so he fabricated the end of the world and named the phenomenon, "Global Warming."
They also did something similar back in 1969 when they staged the Moon Landing.
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@TWS1405_2
What about South Korea?
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@TWS1405_2
Isn't it worse in South Korea though?
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Poor Barney is gonna catch a lot of crap for this. 😂
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@whiteflame
What roles do offense and defense play in a debate?
Do Constructives = Defense, Rebuttals = Offense?
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One of the things I am most skilled at in debating is making both sides seem shitty, both sides seem absolutely dogshit rolling in the mud type stuff where I make my case clearer and some taboo techniques that border on gaslighting that are simply absolutely necessary arsenal and what even whiteflame and such do in debates regularly.
Does gaslighting normally entail confusing the opponent by misrepresenting their arguments, so it's unclear to them exactly what they are discussing?
I've seen it done before, I was just curious.
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- The peak of any debate performance is knowing enough about the subject to be able to argue both sides competently.
Do you believe that’s accurate? If not, what do you think drives the best quality of a debate?
And I’ll throw out another question.
- Are polymaths technically savants over a variety of subjects or are they just jacks of all trades?
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@Mps1213
Alright RM, I apologize for giving you shit. Kind of being a douche for no reason. I’m trying to be less toxic in life, the internet brings it out of me. The opioids I took made me think twice about our conversation and made me realize I’m being toxic for no reason.
I'll have what you're having.
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Never on any website have I ever seen so many whiny bitches - starting with you know who!!!
Who? 🤔
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@Barney
@Mps1213
Sorry you are super genius to spot this. MPS was my sissy partner for a while while I explored my bi side, that's one of the lower IQ exes.All of this is sarcasm, please don't shoot me.
Everyone is visibly cringing at your embarrassing attempts at being funny.
This line isn't even remotely clever or offensive enough to reach the mod's radar.
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On another note...
How can people feel so confident to make personal attacks behind their illusion of security after crying they were getting bullied?
Makes ZERO sense.
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@Savant
Are you familiar with Destiny, Vaush, or Hasan?
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@Savant
Hey, I should have tagged you when I made this post.
When did your interest in debate begin?
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@Mps1213
I'm a published author too and a former writer.
I understand you aren't interested in debate for the sake of debate itself, but I really think you have a lot to offer if you did, potential-wise.
You turned down some of the invitations to be a judge on debates in the past, so I was glad when you accepted to be a judge in my Tournament.
Since your goal is to convince people of drug legalization, an effective way to do this would be for you to recreate the debate (either making it heroin-specific or all psychoactive substances) with your choice in judges but then to switch sides, so you would be arguing for drug prohibition and I would be arguing for legalization.
I realize this seems unorthodox, but there is a purpose here.
- When people are personally chosen to be judges, they pay more attention to the debate.
- Arguing against your beliefs will actually make you stronger at defending them because your experience will allow you to see Drug Prohibition arguments coming a mile away.
- Having someone else defend your beliefs is actually an effective way of increasing engagement of the subject because it's exposure to the same idea but with a different perspective.
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RMM.
Do you think debate styles have category-specific types? Like MBTI.
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I was born to argue, born to critically think and challenge.I came to realise that I need a high IQ spouse no matter what. I can't last long-term with someone who can't appreciate that side of me, it just makes friction. There's also no way to say 'you're too unintelligent' in a nice way, I have been told my intellectual needs and ranting make me incompatible before, though, some have even said I'm just too smart.Debating is an innate part of me. I am not just a nerd who can do nerdy stuff at the day job and come home and turn my brain off, in everything I like to think generally speaking, it can even be intimacy but also just hobbies. I can get along with less intelligent people, yes. I can't fully feel that electric 'fuck I dig you so hard' vibe let alone this true love vibe and it is a problem as I can feel a crush and feel loved (well, not all of me, that's the point) but start to feel dead inside myself.I can have less intelligent or stimulating friends but for a lover, it's definitely a requirement. She needs the spark, the urge to debate sure but that's not as important, just the spark to talk back.
So debate to you is more personal than recreational.
I have similar romantic preferences for myself.
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Did this site make you better at debating IRL?
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@AustinL0926
@Bella3sp
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@Vegasgiants
It’s a myth that bacon causes cancer.:
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@Vegasgiants
Sidewalker is an entrepreneur with a networth of $100 million.
Perhaps it isn’t wise to mock him for his superior knowledge on the subject.
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@Vegasgiants
We can debate the accuracy of the subject.
Accept my challenge.:
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@Vegasgiants
What?
You seriously expect me to believe the info the government tells me?
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@Vegasgiants
You cited from a source that staged the Moon Landing.
Did you really believe I was gullible enough to fall for conspiracy theories like Climate Change?
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@Vegasgiants
You cited an unreliable source.
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Global Warming and Climate Change don’t exist. People really need to stop falling for these hoaxes.
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@FLRW
The FBI is investigating the link between bacon and the FBI.
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@FLRW
No.
He was the best philosopher, in-spite of all those character flaws.
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@Greyparrot
@FLRW
It's actually a scientific fact that bacon causes cancer. An indirect cause of the nuclear warfare in the past.
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@ponikshiy
What’s your opinion on this?
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He has since scammed people of 1.8 million USD so far on a grand scam thing with other criminals, preying on his own fans.Him and his brother are just scum. His brother at least can box well.
Ugh, yeah.
They're officially in the same category as Dhar Mann.
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Referring back to the 2018 incident where Logan makes a mockery of the country of Japan and filmed a dead body to put it on YouTube. He was canceled immediately after this, but within a year, he managed to become one of the most liked and respected people on the Internet.
If Logan wants to prove he actually changed as a person, he should return to Japan and try to make up for his mistakes.
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@FLRW
Greyparrot is on Holiday Vacation and returns either today or tomorrow.
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