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@Tradesecret


Such as?  

Such as where God failed to tell Mary that Jesus was going to die a cruel and violent death? 

Well can you show where he did?  No you fkn can't can you, you pompous penis. It is absent from the scripture just as you claims that John the baptist anointed Jesus  king.

 You want it all fkn ways.  and I won't let you . Where in the bible is "clear evidence that John the baptist anointed Jesus king".?  It doesn't say so, does it you bellend!





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@Tradesecret
Then simply show us where in the WHOLE of the bible it is that Jesus wept over the death of John the baptist. You assert and claim many things and present them as biblical fact without a single shred of biblical evidence often. 
Keep asking and you will get the same answer. 
But you haven't answered anything you clown, unless I am to take your silence as some kind of an answer. 
Interesting that you claim on the one hand that I cannot produce biblical evidence for god not informing Mary of her son's tortuous demise and on the other claim the god did inform Mary of her sons demise yet produce no evidence for your claim. 
Yet the bibles silence on the matter is proof to me that no such conversation had taken place. 



I have admitted many times that I cannot prove my own thoughts , ideas or theories concerning these unreliable scriptures. 

You certainly have demonstrated that many times.  

As have you.

Now again, where is the biblical "clear evidence that John the baptist anointed Jesus king".


No one really cares what you "believe". 

And that is their  prerogative.



You don't know anything about me. 

You mean I don't know you personally except for all of the bragging about all of your  theological credentials that you offered all over the WWW and on this forum in particular as if this affords you some-kind of status over all other members here. 

I have told you before, what you believe about me is irrelevant to me and my own threads.


We are still waiting for you to substantiate anything.  

 Such as?  




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@ethang5
You didn't even have to do that. The CoC says each member must abide by reasonable requests made by the thread creator, and as we can see, Wylted's requests are as reasonable as Stephen's requests that got me banned.

 It was you own disgusting filth that got you banned. SUCK IT UP PRINCESS.

Date: 07/20/2020
Moderator: Ragnar#17

ethang5 has been banned for 90 days, following a resumed pattern of sexual harassment and disregarding both moderation intervention and polite requests from the target to cease.

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@ethang5
You brought up the shared password doofus, and a mod, who would know, replied. You are a documented liar.

That post was directed at dunces like you stupid. It was concerning the accusation that I was also another user. 



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@ethang5
Stephen knows all these things, but prefers to lie

It is  not often that you are right ethang5 , but you are wrong AGAIN!!!
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@Tradesecret

Stephen wrote: And answer me this Reverend  "Tradey", what kind of mother would go joyously bounding off in jubilation to tell her cousin that she was going to have a baby that was going to be hunted down, betrayed and arrested and put on trial  and then beaten senseless and then nailed to a cross to die an agonising death? 
The sort of Mother who trusts in God.

Stephen wrote; Show me where in the bible that Mary once says she trusted in god? 
I don't need to.  

Stephen wrote; So you cannot what is only your belief. 

Resurrection wept when Lazarus died,

Stephen wrote: Yet didn't shed a tear when  John the baptist his cousin and the" greatest prophet that ever lived" was supposed to have been murdered by Herod. 

Oh really.  And where is your evidence for such a nonsensical assertion. 

Then simply show us where in the WHOLE of the bible it is that Jesus wept over the death of John the baptist. You assert and claim many things and present them as biblical fact without a single shred of biblical evidence often. 

Didn't you once claim that there was "clear biblical evidence" that Jesus was anointed king by John the Baptist?   I actually agreed with you but  I said outright that couldn't prove it.   And you couldn't produce the "very clear biblical evidence" when I asked you to , either!  And it wouldn't have been the first time that you claim that there is "very clear evidence" in the bible for one thing or another when there simply isn't.

The facts are that WE DON’T KNOW!!! this is why I have said all along that these gospels are vague and anomalous, enigmatic, dubious and packed with half told stories.
And this is why people like you believe that you can take literary license to   add, extract, interpret and misinterpret, expunge and sometimes deliberately lie at will when it comes to scripture.


How many times does it take before anything ever sinks in to that thick dense skull of yours ? 

I have admitted many times that I cannot prove my own thoughts , ideas or theories concerning these unreliable scriptures. 

I believe Jesus and or members of his followers had a hand in the murder of John the baptist, but I cannot prove it. I believe Jesus and John were rivals from day one,  but I cannot prove it no more than you can prove god or Jesus actually exists or existed.

 What I have proved over many months is that you are the most bible ignorant cretin of a  Pastor and Chaplain to have ever have crossed my path.

 Get well soon Reverend.






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@Tradesecret
@BrotherDThomas

Tradesecrete wrote: "The fact is - I do not share my password with anyone. And all your endless lies and speculations are just a means of trying to get me banned. Chuckle."

Brother D Thomas wrote: NO, NO, NO, NO, NO!!!  OMG NO!!!  DO NOT GET BANNED!!! 
You are confusing your personas again Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete. There is only one vile and disgusting cretin here that deserves a permanent ban and its not you.

But there is no point in working to have anyone banned on this forum . And I would miss exposing you "Tradey" Tradesecret for the bible ignorant clown for what you actually are.

Off you go now. You must be tired
 Get well soon Reverend
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@3RU7AL
i guess this thread's devolved into 98% AD HOMINEM ATTACKS

This is what happens when the Christians cannot answer valid and genuine questions. I don't expect anything different from these bible dunces .

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@Polytheist-Witch
Jesus was never on the cross or given anything since we can't even prove he lived .

Well done Witch.  If Jesus never existed then the this consigns the who bible to the trash, doesn't it? Or is this you Christians bashing?
But there are a quite a few million Christian that won't agree with you.
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@Tradesecret
"no two users in this thread share any system information."

You sending him your password  via email to get you out the shite wouldn't show in the system, you clown. 

Now stay with the thread.
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@zedvictor4
All hypothetical peeps.

Only the story tellers knew what they were on about.

Of course, Vic lad.

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@Tradesecret
And answer me this Reverend  "Tradey", what kind of mother would go joyously bounding off in jubilation to tell her cousin that she was going to have a baby that was going to be hunted down, betrayed and arrested and put on trial  and then beaten senseless and then nailed to a cross to die an agonising death? 
The sort of Mother who trusts in God.

Show me where in the bible that Mary once says she trusted in god? 


Resurrection wept when Lazarus died,

Yet didn't shed a tear when  John the baptist his cousin and the" greatest prophet that ever lived" was supposed to have been murdered by Herod. 

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@Tradesecret
where did Stephen produce any evidence from the text that God did not tell Mary? 

Unlike YOU, bible dunce . I know perfectly well not to write anything into the bible that isn't there.
And also unlike you I do not ever present my thoughts , ideas and theories as fact. 

And answer me this Reverend  "Tradey", what kind of mother would go joyously bounding off in jubilation to tell her cousin that she was going to have a baby that was going to be hunted down, betrayed and arrested and put on trial  and then beaten senseless and then nailed to a cross to die an agonising death? 
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@ethang5
Why would you block me,

 I haven't. Stop making shite up.
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@BrotherDThomas
Tradesecret is stumbling all over the place in embarrassment once again! LOL!!!! 

Give him/her a break Brother, S/he has been ill you know?  And s/he gets "tired very quickly these days"#149



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@Polytheist-Witch
Nothing in the Bible is fact it's myth you're the one stating that the Bible is an errant and therefore can't be interpreted anyway but yours.


That is my point, Witch. It can and does throw up many ideas and theories.  And as far as it being MY interpretation that is the correct one, I have always admitted that I cannot prove my ideas and theories as to what the bible is saying. Unlike the Christian that like present their own interpretations as fact and have been doing so for over 2000 years.

So, when Jesus was on the cross, did you know he was given medicine to render him unconscious so he could be revived later. This is probably why he was pronounced dead at the scene so soon and didn't have his legs broken. I mean, what kind of friend would give a half dead  thirsty man "vinager"?
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@Tradesecret
You stand by me sharing a password.

Yep.
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@ethang5
But your claim that TS and I share a password (how on Earth would you know that??) has been debunked by your protector himself.

You should go back and read what is written and not what you want to be written there.

As for "protector", s/he banned me three fkn times you clown because of yours and your other persona "Tradey's" whining and whinging. Now, stay on topic, go read your bible and find yourself a wife as the good book instructs.

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@Wylted
There is no possible way that you are this low IQ, to think this is an honest criticism. 

 [A] Well Jesus certainly  didn't inherit the throne of David as his mother Mary was promised he would.  And being hung on a cross with nails driven through your writs with a view over-looking the Kidron valley sounds to me like a failed mission to unite the tribes of Israel and bring peace to the earth.

Jesus is the king of the jews .................. He was also constantly mentioning his imminent death.

I agree. Jesus was a Jew that believed himself to be the King of the Jews. 

and will physically sit on the throne after the beast loses the final battle.

I see.   And the final battle will be when? There is no throne to inherit and not even a temple that he promised to rebuild and failed.


Mary knew. 

How do you know? There is not a single verse that even indicates that Jesus mother would have to suffer the spectacle of watching here son undergo a vicious and vile scourging and a violent "death" by crucifixion.  It was all joy and happy days as far as she was concerned.
 Mind you, she did eventually come to believe he was insane.  


Also Jesus did not fail his mission.

He certainly did see [A] above.


Every extra day it takes him to return, you should be thankful, because it gives you an opportunity to accept his non gay, and also fatherly love of you and the sacrifice he made so you can have eternal life.


I'll take my chances on that being utter bullshit, if you don't mind. 

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@Deb-8-a-bull
They either love her or don't really care about her. 

And the New Testament pushes the "blessed among women" to the back ground once she has given birth. And Joseph his "father" seems to disappear from the scene altogether.
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@Tradesecret
You concede you speak opinions.

 NOPE!  I admitted they are ONLY my thoughts, ideas  and theories concerning these unreliable scriptures. And have also admitted  that I have no supporting evidence for my own thoughts ideas and theories. 

 But I  do find a lot of evidence from the bible itself that puts anything that you, a bible dunce in your own right, to shame often. 

 Off you go now Reverend "Tradey",  I have things to do.

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@Tradesecret
Your homework Stevie blunder keeps coming up with dum dum ideas like Ethang and Tradesecret are the same person. 


 Nope.  I said you share a password and I stand by it.


you are full of yourself.


Well from your standpoint you can hardly say anything else considering that I have shown you to be the bible dunce that you are.


You have nothing to add but speculation and opinion. No one cares what you think.  

Theories, thoughts and ideas, is what I have admitted to not being able to support, you bible retard. Did you miss this post>>#112

. And I have openly said that I cannot support my theories and thoughts or ideas. Just like you cannot support a single one of your claims and those claims made in the bible.

And you also missed this too>#48

Tradesecret wrote: I'm not sure if you realise but Ragnar is no longer a mod. He resigned a while ago. #41 Tradesecret


ethang5 wrote: Yay!   Is it coincidence that I returned right after? Just like I did after Bsh "resigned"?

 Nope!  It was no coincidence.   You were simply juggling far too many usernames to handle. I predicted your imminent return just days before you showed up.

You have gone into complete ethang mode now. Keep it it please.


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@Tradesecret
I concede I did not use lead.

You did not do your fkn homework AGAIN before spouting you pompous gaping hole , is what you didn't do, you idiot.

And the "blunder" is on you, AGAIN, you clown.


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@zedvictor4

Ah.

But was she formerly blessed amongst women...

It depends of what tribe and what  status she was. Egyptian princesses for instance were held in high regard and used to make unions with foreign nations. Abraham ("a prince of god") is believed to have had an Egyptian "slave" that he whipped a bit of seed into but it was more likely a case of that she was of minor or lower in the ranks in the Egyptian royal family. This practice was also used to infiltrate other royal families and bring them down from the inside, Trojan horses so to speak.





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@Tradesecret
Your job is to prove me wrong
No it's not. 

It is if you choose to challenge my opinions and theories  concerning scripture, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecret. 


Everything you say is your belief and opinion.  

Exactly. AND I admitted so above.  AND you can challenge me or simply ignore my opinions.


no one cares about your belief or opinion.  I certainly don't. 

Then simply do not respond you boring bible ignorant nonentity.


You make so much stuff - and then pretend to pass it off as intelligent.  That is the funny part. 

 I am pleased it amuses you,  but saying what I write is funny, is not really challenging my own theories or opinions either way is it?  you bible ignorant clown. In fact it is quite retarded.


It makes me smile. 😊

Good.  Then stop your whining and whinging and playing victim and accusing me of bullying you.

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@zedvictor4
Was that his Mother or his surrogate Mother?......Virgin birth and all that tosh.

 You are not far off the mark with that comment  ,Vic lad.  The Mesopotamians called them "vestal virgins". They were chosen to be the vestals that carry the seed of high priests and kings. The tradition was carried over by Abraham when he left Mesopotamia.



No one here on Dart is actually going to know.

But shouldn't the "blessed among woman" have known what was going on? It seems that she was all perplexed at the idea.



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@ethang5
@Barney
@Tradesecret

Tradesecret wrote: I'm not sure if you realise but Ragnar is no longer a mod. He resigned a while ago. #41 Tradesecret


ethang5 wrote: Yay!   Is it coincidence that I returned right after? Just like I did after Bsh "resigned"?

 Nope!  It was no coincidence.   You were simply juggling far too many usernames to handle. I predicted your imminent return just days before you showed up.

And the last time I looked  Ragnar was still a moderator. I mam sure s/he will correct me if I am wrong.







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@Tradesecret
Brother, Stephen and Dim tim, the unholy trinity of fake frauds.  

Nothing fraudulent about me Reverend "Tradey". I haven't change my stance on where I stand on these unreliable ambiguous and anomalous half stories that make up the scriptures.
Everything about you is fraudulent.  Your stance changes all of the time.
[A]
 Nope. I have made my stance perfectly clear many times. Put simply I believe the bible has much historical content MINUS THE MIRACLES.

[B]
I believe there was a contender to the throne of David named Jesus/Yeshuah ben Joseph.
I believe Jesus and John the baptist were rivals.
I believe Jesus and or his disciples had a hand in John the baptist death.
I believe that he had a band of merry men that he called his disciples, which simply means followers, of which he had maybe thousands, as did John the baptist.
I believe Jesus was crucified along with another rebel also named Jesus for crimes against Rome.
I believe Jesus survived the crucifixion with the help and assistance of some of his "secret disciples".
I believe that he may well have been present at the fall of the city of Jerusalem 68/70AD
I believe Christians have wrapped around a very human man a myth that precedes Jesus the Christ by many thousands of years.
And I believe the Old Testament is more honest and truthful than the New Testament -  MINUS THE MIRACLES!.

And I have also said many times that I cannot prove a single thing concerning my own thoughts and theories where these unreliable and ambiguous scriptures are concerned. AND NEITHER CAN YOU! Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete.     The difference is that you cannot admit it!  Your job is to prove me wrong and explain  why I am wrong if you care to do so. I don't have to explain or prove any damn thing at all.   It is you and the bible that makes ALL the claims

So what you think this makes me - atheist or theist? - is entirely up to you, and matters not to me, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete. You are the one that has faith in every word of the bible being true and the word of god.. I do not.



 I am just hoping for an intelligent conversation. 

Well I gave up on that prospect a long time ago when you decided that I was "slime"#24 and " a pig"#181  and was "dumb as fuck"#161 when I had only been here a few weeks or months. You was of the belief that you were dealing with a dunce, you couldn't have been more wrong you pompous penis. Or was that one of your other personas speaking on your behalf? I have told you, you need to keep an eye on what others say on your behalf with your username attached to it.  They seem to keep dropping you in the shite every time you invoke one of them and they will keep doing it. 




Are you an atheist or a theist? 

See[A] & [B] above you clown. 🤣

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@BrotherDThomas
Your truthful statement above has always given me pause in that Jesus was a wussy God in allowing others to nail him upon a TREE (1 Peter 2:24), or was it a TORTURE STAKE without cross bars (Matthew 27:40 NWT), or an actual CROSS (John 19:19). Within this contradicting situation of which source was used to hang Jesus has also given me pause on which only one source can be correct, and that leaves the door open in other areas of the scriptures where there is contradiction, whereas only ONE NOTION can be true at any given time. The adage of opening up a can of worms relative to the scriptures comes to mind.  

Indeed. How did a god manage to allow his enemies to take hold of him to do such a thing there-by cutting off and stopping his mission on earth in its tracks?
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@ethang5
Who knows?

You certainly don't.

You are nothing more than a jumped up bible dunce and sex pest #17 that prefers to answer for others and that would rather create conflict on a thread than to actually discuss its content.

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@Polytheist-Witch
Stephen assumes if there isn't a specific paragraph saying this was discussed then he implies it was never addressed in any way shape or form.

And you believe that what is NOT written in the bible gives the likes of you and other bible ignorant dunces licence to inject your own interpretations and present them as fact. Well it doesn't!

 If I was to start to invent conversations that do not appear in the bible you would among the first  to scream  for me to show you where in the bible something is said or something happened. 


Did you know that a very human priest of god named Gabriel raped the young maiden Mary and took her against her will?
Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock.
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@Castin

Love it. A+1

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@Bones
WHY DID GOD FAIL TO TELL JESUS' MOTHER OF HER SON'S CRUEL & VIOLENT DEMISE?
I know. Because Jesus needed "free will" to overcome "hardships" to become the true "messiah", meaning that God was completely okay with watching his son get tortured to death, because this simply a "test of character". Don't ask me what part of getting nails stuck through your arm is a test of you "inner goodness" though. 

As is usual with these unreliable scriptures, Bones, your response doesn't fail to raise more questions.

Why would the son of god who Christians also believe to be god need to test his own character? Jesus had already been confirmed at his baptism to be who he was Matthew 3:17 and had already been tested and tempted in the desert by non other than Satan himself.Matthew 4:1-11  How anyone actually knows what was said between these two is a question all on its own considering there were only two present at the time?

And who did Satan think he was that he could test god himself  or the son of god?

But lets stay with the op for now.
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 God's failure to learn from his own mistakes was one thing but to keep from his mother the cruel and violent demise and failure of her son's mission on earth was nothing short of out-right cruelty.  It does beg the question had god chosen the right "messiah"?

God's promise to Mary mother  "blessed among woman" of Jesus seems clear enough on the surface when we read:

Luke 1:30-38
"Then the angel said to her, “Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found favor with God. 31 And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus. 32 He will be great, and will be called the Son of the Highest; and the Lord God will give Him the throne of His father David. 33 And He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there will be no end.”

So although the "Blessed among women" Mary " is a bit perplexed by it all she joyfully rushes off to tell her cousin Elizabeth the "good news".
Nice . 🙂
 But apart from the fact the bold underlined above failed to come to fruition it raises the question why didn't god inform the "blessed among women" that her son would have to endure such a violent torturous scourging and be nailed to a cross to suffer an agonising death in front of her own eyes?


John 19:25

"Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His mother, and His mother’s sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene". (was every woman called Mary in those days?)

And is it not the Christian belief that the death of Jesus the "messiah" was foretold and prophesised about in the Old Testament? If this was certainly the case, how come Mary Jesus' mother didn't know the fate of her son sent from god?



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@Tradesecret
Brother, Stephen and Dim tim, the unholy trinity of fake frauds.  

Nothing fraudulent about me Reverend "Tradey". I haven't change my stance on where I stand on these unreliable ambiguous and anomalous half stories that make up the scriptures.
Everything about you is fraudulent.  Your stance changes all of the time.
[A]
 Nope. I have made my stance perfectly clear many times. Put simply I believe the bible has much historical content MINUS THE MIRACLES.

[B]
I believe there was a contender to the throne of David named Jesus/Yeshuah ben Joseph.
I believe Jesus and John the baptist were rivals.
I believe Jesus and or his disciples had a hand in John the baptist death.
I believe that he had a band of merry men that he called his disciples, which simply means followers, of which he had maybe thousands, as did John the baptist.
I believe Jesus was crucified along with another rebel also named Jesus for crimes against Rome.
I believe Jesus survived the crucifixion with the help and assistance of some of his "secret disciples".
I believe that he may well have been present at the fall of the city of Jerusalem 68/70AD
I believe Christians have wrapped around a very human man a myth that precedes Jesus the Christ by many thousands of years.
And I believe the Old Testament is more honest and truthful than the New Testament -  MINUS THE MIRACLES!.

And I have also said many times that I cannot prove a single thing concerning my own thoughts and theories where these unreliable and ambiguous scriptures are concerned. AND NEITHER CAN YOU! Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete.     The difference is that you cannot admit it!  Your job is to prove me wrong and explain  why I am wrong if you care to do so. I don't have to explain or prove any damn thing at all.   It is you and the bible that makes ALL the claims

So what you think this makes me - atheist or theist? - is entirely up to you, and matters not to me, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete. You are the one that has faith in every word of the bible being true and the word of god.. I do not.



 I am just hoping for an intelligent conversation. 

Well I gave up on that prospect a long time ago when you decided that I was "slime"#24 and " a pig"#181  and was "dumb as fuck"#161 when I had only been here a few weeks or months. You was of the belief that you were dealing with a dunce, you couldn't have been more wrong you pompous penis. Or was that one of your other personas speaking on your behalf? I have told you, you need to keep an eye on what others say on your behalf with your username attached to it.  They seem to keep dropping you in the shite every time you invoke one of them and they will keep doing it. 




Are you an atheist or a theist? 

See[A] & [B] above you clown. 🤣

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@949havoc


949havoc, wrote: I'm just trying keep hair-brained ideas out of the context of true religion.

What is true religion?

949havoc, wrote: It means what it says. really?
  I asked you what is a "true religion", but you cannot offer a single word to its definition. So you are simply talking claptrap for the sake of it.
949havoc, wrote: There is true religion.

And I have asked you three times now what is a "true religion"? This was your claim, not mine.


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@Tradesecret
Brother, Stephen and Dim tim, the unholy trinity of fake frauds.  

Nothing fraudulent about me Reverend "Tradey". I haven't change my stance on where I stand on these unreliable ambiguous and anomalous half stories that make up the scriptures.

"fake fraud" 


Whatever does that mean?🤣 Its either fake or fraud, you idiot ,🤣 
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@949havoc

I'm just trying keep hair-brained ideas out of the context of true religion.

What is true religion?

It means what it says. really?
  I asked you what is a "true religion", but you cannot offer a single word to its definition. So you are simply talking claptrap for the sake of it.


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@Bones
Challenge sent. Will you run or will you fight? 

Don't hold your breath. He can't cope in an environment where he cannot flat out deny what is actually written in the bible, tell lies or rewrite scripture.. And has to produce citations.
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@949havoc
I'm just trying keep hair-brained ideas out of the context of true religion.

What is true religion?

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@Tradesecret


You are the swine that Jesus talks about.  Absolutely.  That is not me calling you a name. That is me applying the words of Jesus to a person in the context who loves to tramp over the words of God.  If you can't tell the difference, it does not surprise me.  


Referring to you as the slime after a snail.  Again - not my best language - but it describes you to a tee. 
 Yes, I did say you you were dumb as @#$. Again I don't deny it.  It is the truth. 

Only because you cannot deny it. But are quick to accuse others of "name calling"  and bullying. Read you bible reverend, Jesus coverers your type of hypocrisy in some detail.     There again , Jesus also tells his disciples to be snidey and two faced too, doesn't he? At least you have that instruction down to a tee like many Pastors and Chaplains do.

You are a first degree  hypocrite, Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete. 

Off you go. And get well soon all three of you🤣


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@949havoc
And what does god actually `say ` concerning "how our creation is supposed to be understood"?
Genesis 1, 2, 3, inclusive

John 17: 3

Romans 8: 16- 26

Just to highlight four of many passages answering your question

Nope. Those verses answer nothing in regards to "how creation is to be understood" . What they do is offer are more contradictions. Well done on proving  how stupid you are and me to be correct.


When did he say it?
As noted, at various times and places as noted

Nope. Nothing shows they are the words of god and where these verses where supposed to have been spoken not to mention where they were written.


Who does he say it to?
To whom it is revealed, but more importantly, to all children of God.

So on the one hand you do not accept that the bible was wrote by god but on the other you will accept that people wrote down what only they believe they heard god say. Another fail.


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@Tradesecret
Name calling is what you are best at doing. 

And pot calling kettle is what you are so hypocritically good at but at least he comes nowhere near you for vile and disgusting language towards others.

His so called "name calling" comes nowhere near the vile and disgusting things that you have dished out to others , does it Reverend "Tradey" Tradesecrete?

Tradesecrete wrote:  You are the swine that Jesus talks about. You are the pig.  #181
Tradesecrete wrote:  Stupid man. Dumb as fuck. #161
Tradesecrete wrote: the serpent, satan, whatever - he is the accuser and you follow after him. you are his disciple. From my point of view - he is slime. You know like the stuff we find after a snail has passed by. creepy.  disgusting. Ugly. \ #24
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@949havoc
 I take God at his word about how our creation is supposed to be understood.

And what does god actually `say ` concerning "how our creation is supposed to be understood"?
When did he say it?
Who does he say it to?



I'm just trying keep hair-brained ideas out of the context of true religion.

What is true religion?
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@Polytheist-Witch
If you don't want to be considered a hate-filled hypocrite then stop telling people to believe the Bible is true 

I tell people the bible is unreliable, ambiguous,  and filled with contradictory half stories from fairyland. The last thing I would suggest to anyone is that the bible is true and to believe it.
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@Polytheist-Witch
That's a flat out lie and you know it, as far as I'm concerned this is a calling out thread for all the Christians


 As far as you are concerned is only your own opinion, Witch.



that post on this forum because monotheists include Jews and Muslims who follow the laws of the Old Testament.

Nope. 
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@Polytheist-Witch
So now you're telling me I have to believe everything that's painted is a true fact and happened at some point in history, okay thanks. And last time I checked photographs are not paintings they're photographs but thanks.

 You asked me to show you a picture. I showed you two. If you don't want to be taken to be mentally ill then stop making such ridiculous requests.

Now off you go.
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@Polytheist-Witch
No this thread is quoting Jewish text that was transferred to the Bible and calling Christians out for it while avoiding calling Jews and Muslims out for it.

Then why don't you include Jews and Muslims in your post instead of complaining that they have been left out of the equation?

Jews do not teach from the bible with, and neither do Muslims. So start a thread  of your own. Meanwhile this thread happens to be about the bible and those misogynistic verses.




It's a hate post targeting Christian members of the forum.

Nope. It is a thread about finding a wife according to THE BIBLE!
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@Polytheist-Witch
So what you're saying is I have to believe Jesus walked on water cuz someone wrote it down in a book called The Bible.

Nope. It was a question. I said nothing of the sort. 
 And I showed you a picture and you are still not happy or convinced are you?

Here's another

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@Polytheist-Witch
Who have you seen walking on water please show me the picture I'd love to know.

That was not the question. But here is a picture

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