Vader

After this game mafia will likely be on pause for like 6 months and pie will forget. Just do it if this is true. 

Barney claimed to target Austin to protect as well and never gave feedback such as "action failed" which is odd. 

Holy terrible grammar, this dayphase it is imperative that we VTNL as if we mislynch we lose

Agreed. I also agree that the scum team is either you and Austin or Austin and Ragnar so I think an Austin lynch next dp I'd the best option

Wylted is a tough read. He's sort of jumped on wagons constantly throughout this game, but he hasn't acted out of the ordinary to make me read him as scum, but his involvement in the two lynches makes me suspect of him

Grey parrot lynch wasn't a mistake. He was TP. 

The plan was to lynchbhim and no lynch today to maximize our chances of hitting scum

- Pie has a variety of games with varying amount of 1x, 2x roles, and even has a joat with multiple 1x's, just like your role giving role.

You have presented absolutely no similar examples... oh wait. You have given one. The one where scum has the only X-shot set of roles. My "role giving role" is pretty distinct from an X-shot role.

You are using a mod psyche in a role madness game where there is no consistency at all.

So, let me get this straight:

You've presented a set of 4 games that Pie has modded

Claimed that there were consistencies to them despite all of them being role madness games (seriously, note the lack of Vanillas)

I pointed out that the consistencies between them don't track with the existence of your role

Now, you're backtracking on that and claiming that there's "no consistency at all" because they are role madness games.

*slow clap* Brilliant maneuver. Honestly, if you were town, you'd scumread the fuck out of this right along with me.

- We have to look at the behavior analysis of the games and some of the results depending how much we trust it

I have looked at behavioral analysis. Last DP. Where you claimed 1X Cop unprompted despite that being a) blatantly anti-town, b) a clear effort to look townie by claiming early, and c) largely useless information in a DP where I was not on anyone's FoS.

I'll also point out that the above statement is also a behavioral problem. I don't think you'd be throwing every possible explanation (including contradictory ones) at the wall just to try and get out from under a mod psych argument if you were town.

Look at someone like Barney, who has flown off the grid from your analysis. Read his play. You let him off with a pass for wanting BK claim but also still suspect me. He is also the last one to make a claim in this game. He's been on both lynch trains that would benefit scum team. Barney was also pushing people like Earth, who we now know as town, into a deeper hole for their reads. He did the same with JoeBob from what I recall. 

Just because I haven't talked about Barney doesn't mean I'm dismissing him. There are two scum in this game. I am convinced that you are scum. I am searching for your partner. The fact that I am aware of just how scummy your play is doesn't mean I'm ignoring everyone else. But, hey, thanks for the pretty basic analysis of his play I guess.

I think you are tunnel visioning because of mod psyche and the role versus overall behavior

If reading a lot of your behaviors and your role claim as scummy is tunnelling (which seems to be a widely shared view at this point), then I guess that's what I'm doing. It's not like I'm honing in on one thing and claiming that alone is reason enough to pursue a lynch. But I guess that is how you'd want to frame it

behavioral reads on you

That being said, I think you still have a lot of scummy behavior to answer for. In particular, it seems like you're trying to clear yourself with thematic/mechanical analysis and ignoring many of the behavioral reads on you. Barney is lurky, but you've been actively scummy. Assuming we VTNL today, what should make me, and the other townies, more compelled to vote Barney tmrw than you?

I'd like to dig into this a bit because there is (or was) already a known protective role in the game: Earth, who was the Lightning Rod. To my knowledge, it functions the same as Bodyguard, just with the caveat of also being able to take other night actions beyond the NK in place of the target.

You advocated for a Grey and Vader scum team because I was hesistant to believe that Grey was just doing this as scum and were persistent on Grey through DP3 before jumping on the JoeBob lynch train on a whim. And just accepting that people wanted to go with it seems pretty lazy town play from you especially

Yes, I considered that possibility. I didn't think it was the only one out there, and I fully admitted my mistake with JoeBob, though it was not on a whim. I was quite clear about why I made that choice. And, yes, I went with the only lynch that was possible at the end of the last DP. That's not lazy, especially considering the extent to which I argued for your lynch.

It's just a suggestion and like I said...you being alive despite being a copped town role is even more suspicious but as I said, there is a possibility that Earth could've used his action on you, but I can't assume anything. I threw in all possibilities of how the DP could be tampered and that's one. 

It's still an awfully convenient choice. All the odder that you had a 1X Cop role given that BK clearly got one of my items.

I find this pretty silly. I wasn't advocating lynching GP during the last DP. I was advocating for lynching you. I admitted I was probably wrong about GP in the last DP - that's why he was no longer my top pick for a lynch - I just accepted that that was where people wanted to go with it.

That's a pretty rich argument, especially considering that your purported Cop result is the only reason people believed you should live. If we can't trust that result (and I don't believe we can), then the FoS should be pointed at you first and foremost, not me. This is an especially ridiculous bit of breadcrumbing that you first started by claiming that your result was somehow lawyered. Yeah, very convenient for a 1X Cop.

straightforward choice

 straightforward choice

I've seen a lot of games where scum used the "come at me bro" defense.....why is that still a popular thing to do?

So now you're just giving up on defending yourself. I guess that's a choice.

You realize that we were scum team and had a full list of roles that the town had 

Honestly, I don't recall. I tried looking at the role list, but the link is now defunct.