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I just want to show you some recent bans where certain things should not be taken into consideration. A lot of the things people are being banned for also seem to be the things that generate site activity, and we need lots of activity to see the site be active. I'm afraid that now that rational madman is a heavy favorite to become president, they'll try to ban him. As much as he hated Mesmer, I know he would have fought this, because it brings him more pleasure to destroy his ideological opponents through argument as opposed to silencing them.
Let's take Mesmer
Here is part of the reasoning given for her ban.
, a deeply troubling pattern of ideologically extremist rhetoric that invites and mimics a cesspool of white supremacist thought.
If it was merely rhetoric, I might agree. However she provided premises for her beliefs. If she's wrong it shouldn't be a problem to prove her wrong as opposed to banning her in an attempt to avoid her argument.
"things like the MAOA gene (warrior gene) and lower self-control ability of Blacks will represent this heritability in functional/genetic form."Blatant declaration that black people are violent and unrestrained by nature.
You don't like it, disprove her. If anyone can disprove her it is whiteflame who really knows his stuff when it comes to genetics. Whiteflame apparently supported this decision, so why not just embarrass her by proving her wrong with your superior knowledge of genetics? Why support Chris's decision. If you perhaps could not prove her wrong, perhaps banning her was not the correct move, but coming over to her point of view.
You see with liberals, I think they believe we all have to be equally prone to violence, have equal IQ's and be equally athletic in order to prove we are all equal. This is a form of racism in and of itself. The problem isn't that liberals are racist for these internal beliefs though. The problem is that if anything threatens this world view, than they need to silence it. Anything that creates cognitive dissonance, must be shut down.
I am being banned now. It's for the same bullshit reasons as Mesmer. One reason is anti-semitism.
1. Incessant anti-Semitic rhetoric that has reached a boiling point, including implications that the Jews are “reptiles” and insinuating that all Jews could be plotting some evil scheme collectively."I don't know if it is just a secret cabal of jews that control everything or all jews are complicit, but they control the music industry and are doing fucked up things."“man sends off lizard DNA to be tested and the DNA comes back as being g predominantly Jewish, confirming what David Icke has said for years”“why are the jews afraid to answer for themselves and have to arrest people who criticize them?And Jews wonder why people hate them.”
Note, none of this is untrue, with the exception of the lizard DNA one. The guys claim actually happened, but he was probably full of shit. Jews really do have a lot of power in the music industry, as they do in a lot of entertainment, and rap music does encourage degeneracy. However instead of engaging with these things and maybe arguing something like "Yeah they make a lot of money in the music industry, but really they just give what the market demands", they instead just ban an opinion that challenges their world view.
People were arrested for anti-semitism. It's easy to argue against this by saying something true in response like "You do know a lot of jews oppose laws against anti-semitism for the same exact reasons as you right?" . Which is an accurate and true response. Yet sadly instead of arguing effectively against anti-semitism they just ban me.
You might be wondering. Why if I could disprove my own posts, why did I post them?
I have 2 reasons. One is to provide a protective umbrella for people to express extreme beliefs. If I am making these posts, it allows people to be less shy about their secret beliefs. Some which may be disgusting and untrue, and others which may be disgusting and true, and something that would benefit us all to know. I did it precisely so people like mesmer would feel safe having their views challenged.
The second reason is so you guys can have some experience challenging these beliefs effectively. When you argue against extremists, there are not just people on the fence listening to your arguments in real life, but you may actually change the belief of an extremists. How good would you feel, knowing that you may have stopped somebody from destroying their life with hate? How much better would you feel, knowing you perhaps prevented some form of domestic terrorism and saved lives.
If you learn to argue effectively against these things you will.
For example it was easy to hate jews when Trump passed a law that basically allowed banning of anti-semitism on campuses across the nation. That sort of silencing makes you wonder, why do they need to shut up dissent? Then you may start thinking "Maybe because the anti-semitism is true and they can't argue against it". However lot's of Jewish organizations opposed the anti-semitism law as they should have https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2019/12/11/rights-groups-slam-trumps-anti-semitism-executive-order
The problems on this site are not from me using the word kike, or threads about anti-semitism. The problem is you guys are unwelcoming of extreme views and you are completely clueless how to address them.
Below is the other reason for my banning
2. Excessive vulgarity and some advocacy for extremism.
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6841-is-rational-madman-a-dick-should-a-dick-be-president?page=1&post_number=1
https://www.debateart.com/forum/topics/6814/post-links/293806
“You are saying the taliban simultaneously rapes little boys while also putting fags to death for also raping little boys.”
Use of a slur while arguing in support of the Taliban.
We can't just pick and choose slurs to like and dislike mod team. Some fruits may not even be offended by the term fag, so it should go ignored.
It's true that I did show that the taliban may be better at running afghanistan than American troops. I wouldn't call that advocating for extremism. I consider advocating to be active encouragement of "individuals" to commit "acts" of extremism.
This site needs to be fixed. I think perhaps the only difference between David and Chris is that Chris is slower to react. We didn't want you to be like david, but slower to react. We want you to mod correctly Chris. The way you mod a debate site is simple. You allow every extremist belief, but you make sure everyone acts civilized towards each other. You basically do it the way Airmax did.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
it's a step by step process. I am not talking about undercovers infiltrating right wing groups. I am talking about ones there strictly for relaying intel from inside the waves of people and ones meant to quickly and discreetly grap people they find problematic. Like they see somebody being violent. It is easier for non uniformed people to quickly grab them and drag them to uniformed officers than it is for uniforms to know what is going on and come in and stop them.
Let me ask you this. Do you know what a reverse sting is?
It's not the same as a sting. A maybe setting up a bike, and seeing if it will get stolen. A reverse sting is one where agents will encourage somebody they consider likely to steal the bike into stealing it. They pressure them and try to influence them to steal the bike . "Come on man, just do it"
When dealing with extremist groups, whether they be right wing or Islamic or left wing, the favorite tactic of agents is a reverse sting. When you see in the news that somebody was arrested trying to buy nukes, this is usually a reverse sting situation. It is usually some Muslim who would have never even have considered buying a nuke, but the government did a few things. They made it actually look like buying one is possible, if the target was maybe thinking it would be better to not commit terrorism than the agent might say "do not be a pussy man, don't you love allah?" And other techniques to change their mind.
Do you see where I am going with the reverse sting thing?
We have agents deeply undercover in many extremist organizations. The are all gathered in one place and a perceived threat by idiots who make threat assessments. How can we take out 800 at once? Maybe by planting a little bug in their head that storming the capital is a good ideal. Maybe the agents didn't realize that the storming would be successful. We can't really know what happens.
So we have the possible reverse sting angle. We have people not doing reverse stings but undercover patrolling the crowd. This is actually common in all protests, but it should be illegal.
You might ask why should patrolling a protest crowd in plain clothes should be illegal, especially when it is really effective at keeping the crowd safe.
It's because in America we value freedom. If there is even a 1/5000 chance that undercover cops could act as agent provocateur s , than we shouldn't allow any in the crowd. I'd say the chance is even higher than 1 in 5000, given the evil nature of government as proven by the fact that reverse stings even exist and that being a provocateur is really just a type of reverse sting but on a whole crowd as opposed to on individuals.
My question to you disc is this. Why do you blindly trust government?
You know you would have been one of those people in Nazi Germany that were just like "The reichstag fire was legit bro, look at all these German institutions that agree, no way would our government ever do domestic terrorism ". It's just a dumb way to think.
Anytime you are like "just trust the government and official institutions like they did in Nazi Germany" than you should really start to think about whether you are supporting the good guys or the bad guys.
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@Discipulus_Didicit
My claim was that there were undercover in the crowd.
Once we establish that undercover are in protest crowds, than we can begin the discussion on whether they are agent provocateur or not.
Are you now conceding that undercovers were in the crowd?
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@oromagi
Let's note that when Robert Mueller asked five questions regarding Trump's collaboration with Putin to win the American Presidency in 2016, Trump, who took months and six lawyers to compose his response, answered "I don't recall" 36 times and forgot to answer the fifth question entirely. That question was
Why do liberals think like this? Why would Trump doing evil things, make it okay for biden to be evil?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
I would. Discord?
Lol it's wierd you actually want to argue not a single undercover law enforcement person was in the crowd LOL. I currently am puking my brains out with covid but yes be on discord at midnight and we'll discuss if undercover officers ever patrol protests crowds that have potential for violence
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This is a a distraction. The statement "I can recall" is problematic in itself because it is meant to counter evidence that may arise that he is lying.
It's a distraction though. Withdrawal is good. American troops were behaving in an evil way by protecting poppy fields and listening to orders to allow the Afghanistan military to rape little kids.
It doesn't get more evil than that, and that's the American military who is supposedly over there to somehow protect freedom here.
We also know that all foreign terrorist attacks ks on American soil are from blowback. If you eliminate the cause of blow back (foreign meddling) than you completely eliminate any chance of blowback and any chance of attacks on American soil.
Hell, even Hiroshima was blowback and so was the sinking of the lusitania. You want to entirely eliminate the possibility of war. Eliminate the possibility of blowback.
You become completely isolationist . If anyone fucks with us, you nuke them and go back to being completely isolationist.
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@Greyparrot
that is just pure evil that they refuse to say what recommendations they gave. It isn't even a national security issue at this point since the withdrawal has already happened.
When there is not a very definable threat to something being secret, we should lean towards transparency. The security apparatus in this country is dumb
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@drlebronski
VOTE MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
You aren't RM
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apparently the first amendment only applies to biden supporters, because recently a young man was arrested for criticizing the Afghanistan withdrawal.
Some idiot will likely say this man does not deserve freedom of speech because of his career or his race, but all American. Itizens deserve absolute freedom of speech without exception
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@oromagi
would you like to debate whether undercover officers were in the crowd? A live debate?
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@Discipulus_Didicit
More importantly though I think you should be informed that this this thread is satire on Wylted's part. That clearly went over your head so I'm going to help you out by pointing that out.
It's not satire. I think he should really be the next president
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@FLRW
Diet books also say to consult a doctor before you take the advice of eliminating fast food from your diet.
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@Barney
I loved that movie back in my Michael Moore phase
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@949havoc
You will never come up with a better campaign slogan than
TIME TO FUCK SOME ASSHOLES
TIME TO FUCK SOME ASSHOLES
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@949havoc
I know. You don't like Dicks.
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RM is a dick and We need dicks
The answer is yes. He's a dick. We have 3 types of people on this site.
1. We have assholes that shit on everybody. They Shit on pussies and dicks. These can be considered the mods or the committed trolls and maybe a few others. Mostly though they are mods and religious forum trolls who for some reason sometimes venture out of the religion forum.
2. We have pussies. If you are reading this, this is probably you. The pussies tend to get fucked, by the dicks and shit on by the assholes. This is your most common Dart user, and I unfortunately can not name names for fear of breaking the rules here and being banned.
3. Then you have the dicks. Sure they fuck you pussies. It's true that they also get shit on by assholes, but sometimes, dicks fuck assholes. RM is a dick. We need him to fuck the mods who are assholes. I know. You pussies don't like dicks, because they fuck you. However without the dicks occasionally fucking the assholes, than assholes would just shit all over everything.
Why this dick in particular
Let's be honest. Dicks are a rare breed, but there are a few dicks to choose from to fuck the asshole mods. Why pick RM?
1. Nobody is more committed to this site than RM. He does more debates than anyone, posts more than almost anyone, votes more than anyone. He won't just disappear if we elect him. RM will fight for you pussies non stop against being shit on. You pussies need him.
2. RM always fights for what is right. This guy never backs down from a fight, He will not be bullied by the mods, they won't muzzle him. If he thinks something is wrong, nobody here will fight harder to make it right, even at the expense of his own self interest.
3. We owe RM. For one second stop thinking about yourselves pussies. The fact the mods want to lock him out is enough reason to elect him, The above 2 points on their own is enough reason to elect him, but we owe RM. Without him the activity level on this site would be too low to make it enjoyable. It isn't just his own activity, but the response he sparks from people. He is single handedly keeping this site alive.
BOTTOM LINE......
TIME TO FUCK SOME ASSHOLES.
VOTE RM FOR PRESIDENT
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@sadolite
true, but I tested positive for covid19 and it is going around the office
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@RationalMadman
I thought red blood fine black blood bad. Atleast in stool. I figured it carried over to lungs
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@RationalMadman
I had Johnson and Johnson which is one jab.
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My symptoms are getting worse. The vaccine did not work.
Day 1 sore throat mild fatigue soreness
Day 2 extreme fatigue soreness
Day 3 extreme fatigue puking mild coughing soreness
Day 4 no fatigue, puking, coughing up blood but the blood was red so no internal bleeding major body aches around ribs
Should I wait to cough up black blood before consulting a doctor or is red blood enough?
I feel like I should wait and see
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@janesix
don't you fucking dare. Stay on disability as long as possible and learn a skill, so you can make a living wage when they take you off of it
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Liberals value collective good over individual good, even though things like collectivism have been proven to be evil if you look at Hitler or mao or pol pot.
They just don't value freedom. If they stomp on your freedom for a perceived short term greater good, they view it as ethical.
They neither care about individualism nor care about studying and projecting what the 75 year affects of a policy will be.
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@RationalMadman
that's a different beast. I understand where you're coming from. We are using two different definitions for right wing.
I get your point now. I see myself as right wing, so when you say right wingers want to kill gays or ban trading cards, I don't identify with that . It seems silly.
I guess I just consider Saudi Arabia a Muslim country, not a conservative one. Muslims when they are in charge of a country kill homos.
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@oromagi
you seriously spend the bulk of your time and just copy pasting others rebuttals from your favorite leftwing think tanks
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@Greyparrot
I thought you were joking about mentally sharp. I can see approving and thinking he has dementia, but anyone who thinks he is mentally sharp is beyond help. I know the media is complicit in covering up his terrible cognitive decline, but even they just can't seem to really hide it all that well.
This is honestly sick that most democrats can clearly see he has the symptoms of dementia, they see how he is hidden from the media, only works off teleprompter, refuses to take unscripted questions from the press. They see gaffes that even George Bush would not have done and George Bush was full of gaffes because his brain worked faster than his mouth and he would get lost in thought.
The American public is terrible. It really is about party allegiance and nothing else. We came a long way from every single human seeing Reagan had dementia late in his presidency that crossed political barriers, to now democrats refusing to see it, when Biden’s dementia early into his presidency is worse than Reagan dementia was his last year of presidency
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just watch the video. The jews are basically in control of the rap industry and they are for whatever reason. I don't know if it is just a secret cabal of jews that control everything or all jews are complicit, but they control the music industry and are doing fucked up things. https://youtu.be/OO3WF1Ek7RU
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his incompetence is not self inflicted. I feel bad for the guy. He obviously has dementia and is being propped up like in those old weekend at Bernies movies
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@Barney
can you lock this 3 year old thread so it stops getting bumped?
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@Vader
I think we need to come to turns with the fact we will have a mafia season instead of year round games
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This is a link to just the video. There is clearly something wrong here. They are yelling thank you and dismissing the press in a rush.
Boris has attended many press conferences, he looks confused at how abrupt this is ending.
I Don't even want to bring this stuff up. Biden can't help it. He has dementia and it's extremely obvious. Ask yourself if you have ever seen Obama or Ttump's handlers acting like this?
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@zedvictor4
And so presumably a lot of Afghan fighting paedophiles and uniform fetishists are blind in one eye.And Mike was always down in a room with the obvious staff.You just couldn't make it up.
this is word salad.
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Reporters keep shouting questions after the press conference is called. Ushers shout over reporters to make it clear that there's no more questions
Actually the more civilized approach is to just refuse to answer any more and get up and walk away.
It looked like the president was in the middle of answering a question when they were being escorted out. I would expect if this wasn't panic, there would be no rush to leave when the press conference was over, and you'd expect to see some lingering around like any other event.
The behaviors that you reported do not take place in the YouTube video. The shoving and panic and freaking out- those behaviors took place in your damaged and overwritten brain, not in reality or on the YouTube video you included.
No, that's panic. When you have to shout over people, typically it is because you are afraid to hear what they have to say. I told you above how civilized people would respond in that situation.
Behind ending a press conference?
Nope. you aren't that stupid. To the shouting down. Okay I told you the civilized way of ending press conferences. I have watched other press conferences, usually people just walk off stage while the press continues to shout ignored questions. They Don't panic and have their team shout down the press. They merely walk off stage. I just watched the police give a press conference on the Gabby Petito case, and in fact that is what they did.
You can also claim the people weren't forced out, but usually the media takes their time leaving. They seemed rushed out of the room. Why were there no lingerers, why did they immediately leave.
I know when I am in a crowded room like that, I am either in the room right next to the door and rush out to beat the crowd at the end, or I just wait out the crowd so I can leave when there is no crowd to have to fight through.
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@oromagi
That doesn't make sense. You are saying the taliban simultaneously rapes little boys while also putting fags to death for also raping little boys.
Also the last time the taliban was in charge, Afghanistan poppy exports dropped to 1/3 the level they were before they were in charge.
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@RationalMadman
it did provide them needed profits, but the last time they ruled they cut poppy fields production by 2/3. Which is why the United States had support from poppy field growers, who helped them against the taliban, and opium production sky rocketed after poppy farmers became safe from the taliban.
You're right though. Al queida and the Taliban were created by the CIa and their terrorism is mostly avoidable blow back. If you look at the causes of blow back "action" than it is simple to conclude that if you remove the cause, than the results will be eliminated.
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American troops protected poppy fields so more of the heroin producing plant could make it's way to America. The taliban has promised to put an end to poppy growing https://www.wsj.com/articles/taliban-afghanistan-heroin-ban-opium-production-11630181316
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here is my first piece of evidence. The Afghanistan military frequently raped little boys and members of the American military were informed to just turn a blind eye. But its not always obvious to staff in the room that the mike was down
Military men being unethical cowards, of course complied by allowing the rape of children.
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@oromagi
I watched the video. Why did everyone immediately leave? Why was their shouting like that?
This isn't hard. Tell me the most obvious motives for those behaviors witnessed. Do som analysis on motives behind what you see.
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@oromagi
Good thing you had that 9 month old foreign blog redpilled.ca there to tell you what to think about today's press conference which people who formulate opinions for themselves likely interpret as a microphone problem, a fairly commonplace event and not at all a shocker.
I watched the video. Why would they panic and shove the media out and shout them down over a simple microphone issue?
Do you have news sources for your silly claims or is just alt-Right bloggers who do your facts for you?
It's literally a video and their interpretation of events. The video being the important part.
You can't report that Trump won the 2020 Election and then call your reporting honest and factual. There is no honest or factual way to pretend that Trump is still president and blogs that so claim should not be counted on to provide accurate depictions of the present President in action.
Irrelevant. It's a video of the event. Smearing the rando who posted the video doesn't change what's in the video.
You won't explain why the freak out, if it is merely a microphone problem. In normal events the staff just wait a minute for the microphone problem to sort itself out, not panic and scream at the press so loudly they can't hear the words of the president.
What happened on 9/11 when George Bush's Mike cut out? His team didn't start screaming over the fire men and rushing them off. They just waited 5 seconds for it to fix itself.
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@whiteflame
The final dp I realized it was evil and luna, but prior to that, I thought choosing a lover would be some weird ass ability that pie would give mafia as some fake way to town confirm themselves.
I was using a lot of mod psychology. I also love the ideal of martyrs. It makes me think the Muslims are right, if somebody is willing to die for a belief, they must be absolutely certain of it.
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Liberals who think biden is in his mental prime and nobody is hiding his dementia, explain why his handlers reacted this way to biden attempting to answer press questions instead of just walking away like normal
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Biden’s Handlers SCREAM at Reporters to Leave as Joe Biden Attempts to Take a Question from the Press (SHOCKING VIDEO)
From REDPILLED Media:
>Joe Biden spoke today at the UN General Assembly in New York City.
>He coughed onto the audience throughout his entire speech and couldn’t finish a single sentence without botching a series of words so as to make his remarks completely unintelligible.
VIDEO: https://youtu.be/Ipg5sN8i3bA [Open]
>When he arrived back at the White House this afternoon the illegitimate president held a press conference in the Oval Office with British PM Boris Johnson.
>Biden’s handlers refused to allow him to answer questions from the press, with the entire White House staff callously screaming in their ears until they got up and left.
>They even tried to cover the cameras to hide Biden’s crippling dementia. They know every time he opens his mouth there’s a new national scandal.
VIDEO: https://youtu.be/DMQV6jYJQ58
When will they just pull the 25th and end it all already?
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@Greyparrot
I copped evil as guilty so I think starting there is better
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@Polyglot
redirect whiteflame to me, or luna to himself tonight.
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Also just to make this game easier. Me and whiteflame are also lovers (I have dreamed about this for a while ;)) This is simple. If we are dead this NP, than tuf is scum. If we are alive next dp than whiteflame is scum.
You are the Lover of Haos Saurus! If they die, you die and vice versa. You can still use your roles in the night.
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@whiteflame
let them not full claim
Wylted - Aquos Preyas - You are Marucho’s main Bakugan. As one of the only Bakugan to have the ability to change your attribute, you prove to be a valuable asset throughout the show. Furthermore, your ability Blue Stealth allows you to go invisible and prevent the gatecard from opening. At one point in time you were defeated and came back evil but were quickly brought back to the goodside. You are the Town JOAT: 2x Cop, 1x Tracker, 1x Watcher. Each night you may select one of the actions listed and either investigate a player’s affiliation, see who they visited, or see who visited them. You win with the Town.
I didn't want my ability tampered with so mentioned I lost my role. I wasn't lying. I only had 1x on the watcher role and since luna is always killed np1, I watched him.
I know that I am supposed to wait because the evil lynch will likely go through anyway, but I am not very patient.
I copped evil last NP and evil came up guilty. I think last remaining scum is you or luna.
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@Polyglot
you need to put your actions every DP if you took any, so everybody can know if their abilities are tampered with
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