whiteflame

Yes, that’s what “everyone can see the results” means.

so then don’t vote me until a future DP when I am more useful and you can’t lynch anyone else. Voting me now makes no sense.

I’d be willing to bet scum are half telling the truth about the mechanics after death. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s the scum tracker or has a role where he can see who (via proxy of notation) visited who every night. The odds of mislynching are 7/9 which is around 78%. Assuming we mislynch there’s a 1/8 (12.5%) chance that Joe correctly tracks the NK. For a 12.5% chance we have to lynch a townie? It doesn’t make mathematical sense? 

Lets say tonight I tracked you. When I die im guessing it would look something like this:

NP1: ILikePie5 tracked/visited so and so.

and then NP2 would do the same and so forth.

He said I wouldnt get to see until I died.

NGL I actually town read this from pie. I don't get the vibe he is tunneling joebob or even thinks joebob is scum yet, but he feels like he is scum hunting and sometimes a convoluted push is the best way to get reactions, and the way joebob is reacting is what is more interesting about the exchange then the initial reason for pie pushing him. I don't think shutting down an open line of investigation for being based on contrived reasoning is really all that beneficial here.

What's strange is that he does seem careful here to me, and it goes against his normal townie IDGAF attitude that I've seen in the few games i've played with him in and hosted of him. When he finally caves and gives pie the claim you notice the shift. I'll grant you posted this prior to that happening. 

What do you think about the claim? Do you find it odd that he didn't ask austin questions about how his role worked right off the rip?

I can probably guess what some of the townies have assuming my split is correct. I also have a decent idea of what scum may have.

As of now I think he’s the best candidate to lynch. We have 3 claims already. I’m fine getting a role from Joe and making a decision. Idk where the inactives are which is annoying af too

The split works with my charscter, and I’m 90% sure it works with yours based on what you said earlier.

Eh I don’t consider that a game in the first place. There’s a reason why I didn’t play that game. Point taken though.

Yes exactly but that’s just my point. He’s extremely cautious with his posts. That post screams wanting to seem like he doesn’t know the fact that Savant is definitely town.

Castling

Pawn

Algebraic Notation

The odd one out is algebraic notation at this point in time. The first two are more niche. A specific piece in game where there are multiple pieces. A move in a game where there are multiple moves. Algebraic notation is universal.

Sure, which makes my point even more valid. He’s never played as scum. He’s more likely to make the mistake if anything.

I'll suppose I'll be honest. I'm a castling, I can use my ability once to protect one piece (king), and make one piece's next moves untamperable (rook).

Does Pie always demand claims from a lot of players? He did so last game and was mafia.

Trying to lynch Poe instead of Vader, felt like a gambit. And gambits are most often scum.

I also just dug myself way too big of a hole and limited my selection by pointing out those justifications. I used it to build up town cred for theme analyzing. It was then  going to be used to justify Barney’s lynch in DP2 or DP3. I also was going to see if someone claimed someone like Robot as Vanilla and hard push

I think I just over thought it. 

There was nothing I could say or do to change the minds of 2 townies because they’re shit. Zero reasoning capability. Blind trust. And then you had outsiders upvoting comments. Who tf isn’t supposed to notice and believe that

The upvote thing also felt pretty dirty. 

Whatever happens, I’m not voting Whiteflame. Lunatic did say he had to make role balancing, and I’m willing to bet one was making someone a vanilla. Before I bet there was 2-3, but with less people there is only one.

Just look at this guy’s behavior. If you’re town, I implore you to reconsider your decision. What behaviorally has you worried about me. Korea changed is MO in last two pages. Now he’s all defeatist and willing to be lynched. Has he ever done that? What changed

Is your scumread on me an OMGUS? Is it not conceivable that Korea/Vader bus drove you and JoeBob? What’s the behavioral basis for your read. Like I’m genuinely confused.

Again, I already had it on my mind because of the previous game I modded. Also, it makes sense from a balance perspective for Greyparrot’s role that the roles exist. You can call it breadcrumbing but at the worst it’s the exact same thing Korea did earlier.

Again, I already had it on my mind. Korea came up with it out of thin air, without knowing any of the other roles in the game. My theory only came after everyone had claimed.

As I said, it’s you or BK from my POV. We can make assumptions all day long, but just look at Korea’s behavior.

That’s just not true man. Like I don’t understand why you fail to acknowledge the balance aspect and the fact I had the roles in my game. You also forgot that Korea came up with Roleblocker out of nowhere.

Sigh. I’ve literally been tunneled since the beginning of the game. 

Now, scum either has role blocker either janitor, and I hope that scum doesnt have janitor, as that would turn the game greatly in their favor since we didnt all claim and they can steal unclaimed role.

Yet if we take out scum in dp1, then we possibly take out janitor or role blocker.

I was thinking which role could scum possibly have to make up for the fact that town has to mislynch 3 times in a row to lose, and then I remembered that the only such role is janitor which I was seen used before in other game.

Savant was the NK. That leaves WF, Korea, and Bob. It’s theoretically possible that each scum can conduct 2 actions each. Like a Bus Driver would visit 2 people from last game

It’s possible there are roles like Bus Driver or Redirector that count as two visits. Austin asked me the same question in my game and I said they’d count as two visits because you have to pick two players.

I guess you guys can fight over which one of you we lynch.

Barney tracked me and got the result on me.

Do you have any reason to sus BK over pie?

I protected Joe, it seemed like the best choice since I thought scum will take out him. I didnt protect Barney because I think most confirmed town player is a more likely scum target for night kill.