Rap Battle: Sir.Lancelot vs RationalMadman

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Description

(RationalMadman: You aint on my level. We never rap battled as each other, btw. Try it.)

Okay, deal.
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This will be a No-Hold's Barred.

To avoid any errors or confusion, there will be rules and a framework set-up for voters.
Above all else, anyone can vote. But read the rules with careful consideration.

Rules:

1. This is a No-Hold's Barred between both myself and Rational.

2. The actual track for music itself does not count as actual points. Meaning neither me nor Rational can be penalized for choosing a beat the voters do not approve of.

3. All 7 points are assigned to whoever you think won.

4. Voters are not expected to know much about rap, so here are the following qualities you will judge on for both rappers in your RFD.
(On a scale of 1-4)
Lyricism:
Flow:
Diss:
Rhyme:
You will be required to actually read the raps from both sides and analyze your favorite lines.

5. No troll votes or vote-bombing.
You are expected to read the entire rap battle to even be voting.

(Any changes can be made before the acceptance of the debate at the request of Con. No one else aside from RationalMadman can accept, unless stated otherwise by me in the Comments.)

Round 1

You called for me to unleash my wrath.

06.29.2023 05:26AM

Pro

(Theme Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtnkHPvC81Q) (0:20)

Now it’s gonna be a fucking bloodbath.

And I’m mopping the floor with you.

Step to me for real, you wannabe cock-sucking cunt.

Let these words burn real deep, what you’re feeling is fear.

All traumatized, from that time you were licking my cum out your wife’s punani’s.

This nigga needa be lobotomized before he wets his panties.

Nah, I’m just playin’.

My opponent’s an autistic virgin.

With no real meaning or purpose.

Going headfirst into this merciless world,

Experiencing nothing but rejection.

My words will cut real deep.

Leave you lying, dying from an infection.

Guess nobody’s seeing you next Election.

This self-loathing loser needs to look at his reflection.

Because every word he says is projection.

He spent the last year sucking off the mod's balls.

Imagine bragging about trophies when your success is riding off everyone's coattails.

Like all the Traditional Beta Males.

Can call you DART’s Top 10 Biggest Fails.

Stop acting like a Top G

If anything, you’re a Bottom C.

Talking like you shag bitches when all you really do is simp for witches.

“Then they fucked me over twice in an election, then the owner returned to do the most shit update he could have to the rating system and cucked all us noobsnipers. It catapulted me to the ending you see now.” 1

Then leaving because of an update?

Could you be any more of a pussy, you fucking ingrate?

Go back to crying about how Mike took away your noob-sniping.

Ain’t enough tissues for the tears you’re gonna be wiping.

Then you want a challenge.

But you ain’t man enough to call me out directly.

So your first target is homie Space Cadet.

How do you even expect to "tame me?"

Hyping yourself up to have all this power.

When it turns out you’re just a timid, little coward.

Not like your balls gonna drop anytime soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJq1r6iwXXY

06.29.2023 06:28AM

Con

Thing is, to most, I get why you may well seem better,

Like a sweaty whale vs a whore, in the end the fat one's deemed wetter,

That's if the whore was with you, write that bitch an apology letter,

See, a real dominant man like me don't need the username to get her to beg Sir,

It's a metaphor, Lancelot, support character to this shit; I'm both protagonist and storyteller,

You see, I'm a real man with a thick dick aura, everything about me screams 'real gogetter',

But credit where it's due, word on the street's I need my dick while you indisputably wield a dildo better.

See, I could make some more shit up with vague disses that don't seem real, I feel ya,

I should shut up with the BS and get to pointing out how you're nothing more round here than an idea-stealer,

I mass-debated before you tried it, I said I'd make a new site on the Discord server like a couple weeks before you thought of doin' it yourself with some guy payin' 1K to be a Henchman's sidekick,

I don't know how exactly to put this to you but I'm DART's diva girlfriend, you're always only gonna be the side bitch,

You literally use disses I dished out to you to Badger, you genuinely get off on trying to do what I did,

I think sonning you's the totally wrong angle here, I'd never a raise a prick like you, punk, you aint my kid,

You're more like a little brother I'm not that bothered by your silly gimmicks following me around, it's cute and childish,

You try rated rap battles 'cause you liked my idea and I challenged you and you knew the last win wasn't real 'cause Bella held back a vote, you're easy to provoke and just can't hide it,

You run around trying to get under everyone's skin, but under yours is only trauma and overcompensation, my bad I already discussed my dick,

I got my debate count by genuinely efficient moves, you do troll debates for votes to undermine the system I protested and instead of fight it you gave up instantly and decided to act in bad faith and override it,

I can't make this finish without a metaphor so let me make this more clear; I'm the Batman Hussein Obama to your Joseph Robinette Biden.

Won't find proof for now only if needed later

(I can't be bothered to find proofs of some things but basically somewhere he started a site to replace DART, or said he will and apparently weaveroffate paid 1k to it)

The other thing is he told Badger that Badger is a simp for the popular guys and that is one of the earliest debate comments I gave to him after he clearly sided with Wylted in the election)

Round 2

06.29.2023 08:27AM

Pro

(Theme Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7gwKcvC54)

“OMG Barney, you're such a manly man!! 😍😍😍”

“You are the most impressive debater ever! Let me put you on a pedestal so I get your autograph!”

When it comes to bootlicking, this little piggy gives VP Weasel a run for his money.

Always thought he could attract more flies with honey.

Imagine tryna act alpha but doing all that fangirling over Barney and blamonkey.

But you know what they say? If the shoe fits….

You called me a copycat. Oooooo.

If only you had the brilliance to come up with an idea worth stealing.

Not like you invented rap battles or mass debates.

Such a weird claim to make.

That only someone with profound delusion can create.

You’re not DART’s diva girlfriend. You’re DART’s genital yeast infection.

A parasite dick-riding all the fame and glory on a dead site.

That’s the only achievement you’ll ever make in life.

A secondary character nobody acknowledges.

You been here for half a decade, I been present for less than a year.

Already, I’m more popular than you. We call this the loot after the boss raid.

Nothing's blowing up with your phony-ass verbal grenade. Back to obscurity, you will fade.

The same troll debates I’m doing are to reverse the site changes you bitch about.

Stop bragging about your debate creds.

How is earning a spot in the Leaderboards by defeating noobs even a flex?

I’m so easy to provoke. Is that why you play victim every time and cry to the mods that I bully you?

Do you still consider yourself a man?

Everyone else sees you as a scared, little outcast.
Because you start fights and run fast.

Perhaps that dick you pretend to have is as inauthentic as the trans gender you obsess so much about.

Grow some testicular fortitude and try again.

06.30.2023 02:56AM

Con

Beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMaaWAuQGm4

Transphobic when telling me my dick aint real, thats a cope,

Rope on my autistic incel neck as I snort that Round 1 BS and lose all hope,

As the old saying we know goes...

The ladies love a man who needs to cut a throat to feel GOAT...

Love a sycophant tryna mock his opponent showing love for Barney while having Whitesmoke and Shillton in a gangbang, all at once, stuffed piggy with a wilted chode down the throat...

Fucking fake-ass supporter backstabbing failed abortion, sorta dude who's only resource in a battle rap's telling his opponent to choke,

But you see that rope 'round my autistic neck that you disrespected's one that's been there when I've been lower than you'll ever have to go, build a moat,

King Arthur needs protection and you pushed the boat,

I'm a pirate, a ninja, samurai to your throat,

I put a leopard as my pic and you still god a crocodile preyin' on a cheetah, swallow bile while tryna spit ill, you're a joke!

What's coming now? Some more bout how I'm disliked?

I know, I'm a diva, got the pussy that's this tight,

That's why whiteflame reacts when I post, I attend with no invite, I show up like a real G and he knows I'm the king type,

You're the tagalong, midnight comes and you try backstab a badger but you've backstabbed too many and I pierce you with a thin spike,

Shit's poisoned with your ego and you tell me to off myself 'cause you wanna be DDO OG so bad, you'd become both trans and lesbian just to spite me, you dim dyke,

You wanna go low I'll roll with you, you diss me for resenting the system you're finding loopholes in via troll-debate spam, keep pushing, dig in, bite,

But make sure you can chew what your teeth sink into 'cause honestly right now you're making me feel like a misogynist for beating a cunt so hard on a grim night.

Round 3

06.30.2023 04:09AM

Pro

(Theme Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RinrGBDxSnc)

Hey Little Rat, my boots need some polishing.

Do you mind?

Sorry, what was that?

Couldn’t hear you. Was like a mosquito buzzing in my ear.

This fool’s words ricochet like a nerf bullet.

A delicate blow, you niggas can’t even bruise me.

You pay compliments with desperation for mine and everyone else’s approval.

I express sincere appreciation and encouragement.

Establish genuine friendships and connections.

My Charisma Game is at the Peak of Perfection.

I’ll rise with intensity.

Ground-punt you at a speed of light velocity.

You were unprepared for my relentless ferocity.

You’re a caterpillar lying lifeless

Why ain’t you fighting back?

You let me strangle you till you went blue in the face, Smurf.

Dragged you here just to prove I could kick your ass on your own turf.

All them rounds this useless tool wasted posturing.

Rat-Man’s exhausted, bouta die from dehydration.

This dead plant needs watering.

He’s asthmatic. Using his few breaths to have his last words.

What a Waste of Oxygen.

Not that I expected more from this hack screwup.

Just never thought this bitch would let me abuse him this much.

You’re a fool for thinking you matter.

Don’t see the need for all this chit-chatter.

Rat-Man is a worthless nobody stuck in this fantasy that he has anything to contribute.

Nothing here he can refute.

Was bouta vote for you in the Election.

Until you unfriended me over some petty-ass bullshit.

So fuck you. I don’t owe you jack.

How bout you quit smoking that crack.

And yes, you are a stupid incel.

Why don’t the women in your area see you as a local?

Is it because you’re an inbred yokel?

Or do you give off the vibes of a tranny in disguise?

07.02.2023 07:21AM

Con

Clarifying a couple puns and flow things.

Just so you are aware, Robinette is the real middle name of Joe Biden, the Batman and Robin pun utilised a real middle name (this should be more impressive than a randomly altered middle name to fit the batman).

'Grim night' at end of my Round 2 is also Grim knight. you can take that in so many ways (dying/unhappy knight) etc as in sir lancelot is a knight. It's a link to the first stanza/verse's metaphor about me being a samurai or ninja vs a knight.

I realised some of my longer lines don't seem to flow to average readers even if they imagine me saying it fast.

I have a lot of internal subtle flow and rhyme going on and I mean a LOT that you don't consciously realise on first reads. I will clarify some parts highlighting where to be slowing and emphasising for flow:

I mass-debated before you tried it, I said I'd make a new site on the Discord server like a couple weeks before you thought of doin' it yourself with some guy payin' 1K to be a Henchman's sidekick,

You try rated rap battles 'cause you liked my idea and I challenged you and you knew the last win wasn't real 'cause Bella held back a vote, you're easy to provoke and just can't hide it,

Love a sycophant tryna mock his opponent showing love for Barney while having Whitesmoke and Shillton in a gangbang, all at once, stuffed piggy with a wilted chode down the throat...
Fucking fake-ass supporter backstabbing failed abortion, sorta dude who's only resource in a battle rap's telling his opponent to choke,

I hope you get the idea. I think my flowing is not obvious to some on reading and causes issues for voters. Once you realise I do that consistently throughout (on top of other slight syllable tweaks to make it flow even more hypnotically) you maybe can begin to then not have to try hard to catch my flow.

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Round 3 beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhux6gpP5AQ

Fuckin' runnin' in head first, chicken got guts but losin' the IQ,

I've punched in lots of rings with the lyrics, but aint ever seen a fight-ducker like you,

You might pucker up 'n' say you did this challenge, had to provoke you fight you, I'm too skilled at this, and my Kung Fu moves got you startled, that's strike 2,

Where's the first? I'm Mike, dude, I'm Tyson I write this I bite on the ear, no fear, that's a tight move,

Out of left field with the cross after autistic reptition with the obsessive right-hook,

What am I really saying? I'm talking shite, I just write it, I rhyme it, flow like ice-skating, I'm smoother than you with the lying, I'm like spiteful, emo kid with a Haiku,

I'm just frying you in what you cooked, autistic man hangs himself with his enemy with the neck-broken first, that's suicidal, fuck any love between us, goodnight, boo.

What you know about sparrin'? what you know about clashin'?

You're an old garment, raggy shit-stain boxers, shriveled up dick with the itchy rash trapped in,

Rationalmadman's rappin's like a gay man's faggoty sense with all that glam'rous fashion,

I can cry like a bitch and say stuff that's embarassin'...

One month later, they want me back, don't you dare say this absolute fact's sarcasm or a fallacy,

Callin' me top contributor, listen student to your tutor,

I'm the one as recently as 2 days ago to school mods in things ya get me lad? You're the present fad, I'm past and future,

You're a peasant to mad, coming after my posts, you're an afterthought, I'm a badman, alpha male, you're a beta, type of hater loser that's just a tad bit cuter.

Whiteflame responds to me with care when he aint even mentioned,

Road to hell's paved with you standin' up to the baddest in the land, what good intentions,

I call the shots, Chief mod gets to bendin', I'm the shotcaller you wish you backed, that wilted cunt's got a shrivelled clit, ditched the site to ressurect me, even to my worst enemies, I'm trendin',

Do you see this syllable mastery? Think you can outclass me? I'll smack your face in with a wrench till your jawbone's bendin',

You think you're bad and shit telling me I'm worthless, prick, your birth is the worst mistake that your parents made and they've both done other stuff there's no defendin',

I'm that loser spending all my time here right? Any hour of the day your last-online time's 4 hours ago or less, no-lifer won't lose much as I bring the ending.

Round 4

07.02.2023 06:35PM

Pro

(Theme Track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucvko5Giy5k)

T-t..thorry Tython, what wuth that?

Can’t underthand you.

Shoulda left with your dignity intact while you still had the chance.

Now I’ll break you mentally, spiritually, and irreparably.

Ya got some nerve. Likening yourself to anti-hero status.

Calling yourself Mello and acting like the Debating Donatello.

You’re much more of a Fredo.

Looks like Little Bro surpassed Big Bro.

It takes brain damage to call me an imitator.

Look in the mirror and seriously ask yourself who would ever wanna be you.

I’m the fucking upgrade, you’re just a low-tier renegade.

I’m the leader that inspires, you’re that follower who admires.

You do everything the mods tell you.

You take your role of subservience very seriously.

Like there’s a sense of nobility in being the mod’s personal bitch.

Glad you tagged them so they can bear witness to the execution of their Golden Child publicly.

Just kidding, you’re not the Prodigal Son. You’re WAY more of a Black Sheep.

Hope they restrain you by keeping your autistic ass on a leash.

Being an underachieving failure is all you’re good for anyway.

You’re a lost cause.

One that ain’t worth fighting for.

Accusing me of backstabbing you and badger, as if I pledged my loyalty to either one of you retards.

We were never pals. I’d never be homies with slimy scum.

You called me a toxic snake and someone that’s unhappy.

Even if I was any of those things.

Let me hit you with something you’ll find interesting.

Even when I’m at my worst, you make me look like a saint.

Now I know you got a pathological obsession with stalking my profile

Hoping you can find some dirt to make shit stick after it’s been a while.

So let me return the favor.:

Must hurt that The People chose an anti-semitic racist as President just so they didn't get stuck with you.

Couldn’t even woo them with your charm and charisma, everyone was better off when you left.

Only a small demographic wanted you back.

Stepping to me was a Death Sentence. Warned you it would be a fucking bloodbath, looks like I've had the last laugh.

Don’t you dare wage war on those that vote for me or you’ll quickly regret it.

Your last few seconds on the clock are ticking near. If you’ve got anything else meaningless to say, now’s your chance to speak. Like a chicken running around in circles when its head’s been lopped off.

07.03.2023 01:06AM

Con

Beat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxFTNaqzJh8

See, I think I'm over the distortion and blatant fake shit, let's take it back,

Back to a time when you won rap battles by stating and slightly exaggerating facts,

You're a good guy Lancelot, on first meeting, type any chick's comfortable to take to dad,

I've more the type a daughter wants to fuck her hard 'til I damn near break her back,

Win her mom with swagger, and find a story and hobby to relate to the father and ratatatat,

I think you haven't understood what's different between us, it's more than the penis, it's a whole other thing that seems to make you mad.

See, if you were a woman, you'd be into me and hate it, following my every move on the forum,

curious as fuck and the truth is I'm fun as fuck, unpredictable, like every post I type's me performing,

Slick as shit with the badboy aura as I stick a transparent-fluid-covered finger up to decorum,

But if I were a woman, I'd see you as pathetic, a reliable stepping stone to my voting privileges here, reliable rock of boredom,

I put Tigerlord in his place in multiple ways and I give you a permaban-staked bet that I was in his-2 as a judge, they want to hate me but keep on adorin',

He has no problem even while blocked, you get insulted by him so hard and he still hopes you die and rot, that's a repeated cycle even in your real-life story,

I don't know what your issue is with me, like legitimately, I'm done with this 'I kill you, hang yourself' nonsense, I'd rather bring you back to life just to fuck you up post-mortem,

But I'm the one fucking your wife, man, you're the one wanking, recording.

07.07.2023 03:51AM

#40

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@Slainte

W T F

Okay I can understand him getting that ratio in 'disses' but WTF to the rest. You must be reading this very differently to me. This dude's first line in the wholebattle didn't even rhyme, he flowed jagged af throughout, you have to nonstop pause to make his rap work. He has like 0 clever lyricism. Lyricism itself I'd score him 1/4 in.

Just W T F. I am 2/4 in these categories based on WHAT? You didn't even explain where you mark him like that from.

07.07.2023 01:41AM

#39

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@Sir.Lancelot

My pleasure.

A quick vote on this would be appreciated. https://www.debateart.com/debates/4674-discussing-race-based-genetic-differences-is-a-significant-contributor-to-racism-and-is-therefore-unacceptable

07.07.2023 01:25AM

#38

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@Slainte

Thanks for the vote!

07.06.2023 08:05PM

#37

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@RationalMadman

It's definitely wordplay as it's a play on words to make them sound alike. Not saying what you're saying is false because it is true but it's definitely wordplay. Also there's electrical engineers and then there's electricians, so technically an engineer can use plugs/wires. Wild how nitpicky you are over my lines but super simple shit that's unable to be deciphered or broken down, you treat it like it's the best in the world but anyways difference of opinion agree to disagree

07.06.2023 12:22PM

#36

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@Devon

"The technician will be plugging up wires on you like an engineer
When I say I'm on my way, better believe my engine near
Your whole crew will get knocked off if they interfere
I can spot a fraud from afar I can smell their inner fear"

Last 2 lines aren't skilled wordplay even remotely, they are skilled rhyme sceme and alliteratin.

First 2 kind of, it makes absolutely no sence though, should have been electrician or mechanic instead of engineer, maybe stretch it to plumber, engineers don't plug wires into anything.

07.06.2023 12:10PM

#35

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@Devon

Great examples of wordplay is my first bars in R2 against Fish:
accent
act since
axe scent
axe sent

This is not skilled wordplay at all, this is skilled rhyming and alliteration. Meaning-wise there's nothing particularly impressive and because they don't link to each other as punchlines it's not really good but I will admit the axe scent and axe sent can be considered wordplay, depends how you land it.

07.04.2023 05:58PM

#34

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@RationalMadman

It was cool disses but I wouldn't call it god tier wordplay, that's a stretch. He could ghostwrite that for Eminem? Don't disrespect Em. Now I know you really trolling

Only thing decent is
"duck fast enough when I throw up my fish
cause' I've never experienced disgust like this
I've never read bars that can suck like his"
that was a decent diss.

"you can suck my dick, but can you duck my sick?" was ass bro it made no sense all he did was switch the d and the s for suck/dick to duck/sick. It's not profound at all or a wow factor. Crazy how much of a lyrical rapper you are, you find that so great lmao but all the fire shit I said which was way better than all the shit he said obviously, you shitted on ofc but my very last bars you finally gave props too. But you like what he said cool, I guess we see things different. I def understand rap quality and I know you do too which is why I'm shocked that what you thought he said was the best thing ever, is what you act like

Great examples of wordplay is my first bars in R2 against Fish:
accent
act since
axe scent
axe sent

Another example of great wordplay in my battle against Lancelot R5:

The technician will be plugging up wires on you like an engineer
When I say I'm on my way, better believe my engine near
Your whole crew will get knocked off if they interfere
I can spot a fraud from afar I can smell their inner fear

engineer/engine near
interfere/inner fear. Now that's god tier wordplay

I know you gonna critique them and say its wack tho but praise someone who says suck my dick

07.04.2023 04:34PM

#33

Honestly, I'm not yet at the level where I can analyze the intricacy/complexity of lyrics or wordplay and be as mesmerized as you, but I'm already aware his rapping ability is advanced, just having skimmed his battle with Devon.
The similarity of the style, word choice, rhymes, and mastery of the rapping ability is also how I can confirm it's Type1.

And I wouldn't have assumed you were trolling in the first place regardless.
But Devon's repulsion to those rhymes (even if they are lyrically superior) is hilarious to me.

07.04.2023 04:16PM

#32

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@Sir.Lancelot

@Devon

@FishChaser

Whether you agree ot not and whether he is Type1 or not, I am not trolling you when i tell you this is god tier wordplay that maintains rhyme scheme despite how good it plays woth the words:

"you can suck my dick
but can you duck my sick?
duck fast enough when I throw up my fish
cause' I've never experienced disgust like this
I've never read bars that can suck like his"

That is one of the best superficial (meaning nonspecific) diss string of I guess 2.5 bars, ever (pseudo)spat by any rapper.

That is something he could ghostwrite for Eminem himself.

If you think this is trolling, you don't understand rap quality. FishChaser himself doesn't correctly comprehend rap quality but that is because he is a better rapper than judge.

Him being named FishChaser makes it even more god tier than it would otherwise be.

He should have added 'can you' before the second 'duck'. Beyond that no flaw in it.

07.03.2023 07:08AM

#31

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@Devon

FishChaser is Type1.

I know for a fact.

07.03.2023 04:56AM

#30

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@RationalMadman

Depends. Something can be funny and fire and then there's funny/wack and straight wack >

07.03.2023 04:53AM

#29

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@FishChaser

Ok sir if you say so. Speedrace clearly raps better than you and he's not even on this site anymore. https://www.debateart.com/debates/1112-rap-battle-part-3
and before you say I lost no, the shit was full of stupid vote bombs...that's all people did a few years ago smh. King_8 was my old account. Me, RM and Lancelot rap circles around you, but least you're confident that's a good thing

07.03.2023 03:14AM

#28

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@FishChaser

please genuinely take the time of like 40 full seconds to let the beat build in my Round 3 (put it on loop in background only works on computer unless you got YT premium)

then, read my round (3) and imagine faster paced, vicious drill delivery.

It will rhyme in almost any american or canadian accent unless very twanged. It probably can even rhyme in most UK and European-speaking-English accents. Seems to even flow sick in an Aussie or NZ accent. Some parts won't flow well in those though.

07.03.2023 03:08AM

#27

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@Devon

Do you think making the audience laugh at your wordplay increases or decreases the quality of the puns?

07.03.2023 03:03AM

#26

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@FishChaser

Thx for the vote!

FishChaser

07.03.2023 03:01AM

#25

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@Devon

I am by far the best rapper on DA.

07.03.2023 02:27AM

#24

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@Sir.Lancelot

Lmao wasn't tryna be a debbie downer or nothing though. I feel like I relate to what he said about the shallow bars. Lemme hush about it though I feel like I'm dragging it 😂 I'm not actually salty but when I talk about it I look salty lmao

07.03.2023 02:22AM

#23

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@Devon

“Duck my sick.”

Your reaction got me laughing.

07.03.2023 02:22AM

#22

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@Sir.Lancelot

No prob it was fun voting

07.03.2023 02:18AM

#21

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@RationalMadman

"I think people prefer shallower bars with slicker rhyming on this website"
I see where you coming from. I feel the same. People value trash over actual talent. I feel like they be trolling, especially when I was rapping on here back in 2019. Nothing but vote bombs too.

For ex.
You seriously said this was "incredible rhyme-scheme-maintained wordplay."

"you can suck my dick
but can you duck my sick?
duck fast enough when I throw up my fish
cause' I've never experienced disgust like this
I've never read bars that can suck like his"

Sorry that shit was so ass. "suck my dick" "duck my sick" huh? throw up my fish? It really made me laugh. Seemed like you were really trolling or hey maybe its your opinion but I couldn't help but think trolling or our past rap battles for your reasoning since we have history of battling eachother. But I'm not tripping or mad especially because I expected the vote from you. But if someone choose you as winner in our battle it makes sense cause you can actually rap. Like I said I'm not mad, if I was I wouldn't give you any props in my vote and I would've chose Lancelot for all 4 categories. No bias stuff.

07.03.2023 02:01AM

#20

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@Sir.Lancelot

I will get to it for sure. I have a few open debates needing votes as well. Rationing Consumables, and Barney is the Devil are two of them :)

07.03.2023 01:59AM

#19

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@Devon

Thx for the vote homie!
Great analysis!

07.03.2023 01:59AM

#18

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@Ramshutu

@Slainte

@Sidewalker

@DavidAZ

@FishChaser

Would you guys like to vote?

07.03.2023 01:55AM

#17

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@Devon

Thanks for the vote.

I actually did my Round 3 more for Fishchaser, who I am pretty sure likes rhyme-spam and vicious bars. I think people prefer shallower bars with slicker rhyming on this website. I have begun to get the idea.

For me, my Round 3 was my most technically impressive for reasons beyond just that. Drill forces you to choose to either be slick as hell or just pure rhyme spam with no substance. If you have substance to a Drill style, the Drill rap can be phenomenal but most drillers lack that, hence why Drill rap is usually just mediocre.

07.03.2023 12:08AM

#16

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@RationalMadman

@Sir.Lancelot

Great battle. I read everything, just waiting on RM final round and I'll vote. Don't forgot to @everyone so they can vote

07.02.2023 03:58PM

#15

Why do you take pleasure in getting humiliated?

07.02.2023 07:34AM

#14

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@Barney

@whiteflame

@oromagi

@Bella3sp

@FishChaser

watch a beatdown take place

Best.Korea

06.29.2023 02:39PM

#13

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@RationalMadman

I am a person filled with desire to upset people. I just prefer not to often feed that toxicity by displaying it. There is just the point where being toxic becomes boring and unsustainable, since there is no positive outcome for toxic relationship.

DavidAZ

06.29.2023 02:23PM

#12

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@RationalMadman

@Sir.Lancelot

Yeah! Duke it out guys! This looks fun.

06.29.2023 01:31PM

#11

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@Best.Korea

Nothing he does here is healthy. He is a truly unhappy guy that only understands toxicity.

Best.Korea

06.29.2023 01:27PM

#10

Not sure if this is healthy competition.

06.29.2023 11:39AM

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@Sir.Lancelot

Of course

06.29.2023 09:00AM

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@Slainte

@Sidewalker

@DavidAZ

@Devon

Would you guys like to follow and vote on this when it’s over?

😃😃😃

06.29.2023 06:35AM

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@WeaverofFate

@Bella3sp

@Devon

@FishChaser

@swordburial17

Keep your eyes glued and vote, cheers.

06.24.2023 11:32PM

Enjoy that copium.

06.24.2023 10:58PM

The one due to a voter not voting as I left?

06.24.2023 08:36PM

Scared?
Don't worry, I would be too after that beating you took last time.

06.23.2023 03:01AM

I mean leave this up, I will accept later

06.23.2023 02:43AM

Rated only allows Max response time for 1 week.
But I can make it Standard to extend it to 2 weeks.

Your choice.

Unless you mean Voting.

06.23.2023 02:37AM

leave open the full 2 weeks I'll take this later.

Alejandro

08.02.2023 01:01AM

#11

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Great job to both.

Lancelot needs to get better because he did a terrible job.

Rational won this by a large margin

Rockyroad

08.02.2023 12:59AM

#10

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Rational rapped a lot better here

carnegietech

08.02.2023 12:57AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Rational won this for sure

MiracleQueen

08.02.2023 12:53AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

i think rational wins because of their superior skills

Alfredo.Vonchini

08.02.2023 12:52AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

rational has better rhyme, lyrics, and flow!

lancelot didn’t do a good job here.

Savant

07.28.2023 01:46AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

RM took a risk by asking me to vote when he was 7 points ahead. Obligatory "let's see if it pays off" Dodgeball reference.

First Impressions:
This battle is a good example of complex rhyme schemes and metaphors against extremely personal disses with some elements of truth. RM is very versatile as an MC with good lyricism and would probably dominate in a rap cypher, but SL came prepared with 95 theses and is prepared to nail them to RM's front door.

Lyricism:
I'm giving SL a 2 for this and RM a 4. SL has good character references at times, but RM is very focused on metaphors and makes puns on basically everything he says. Maybe needing to explain references should count against him, but RM is very creative here with consistent metaphors, so I'm giving him all 4 points.

Flow:
I'm giving SL a 3 for this and RM a 2. SL breaks lines into smaller chunks, making it easier to see how they flow together, while it often seems like RM is trying to rhyme one paragraph with another paragraph. There are a lot of complex rhymes in the middle which can't be ignored, but it sometimes seems like the length of words and syllables is completely based on finishing RM's train of thought, rather than following a consistent structure. Recognizing that many professional rappers do something similar to this, I'm still giving RM 2 points on flow.

Diss:
SL does well here. There's a history of beef between these two MCs and SL references a lot of it, pointing to specific events that happen. Even though it didn't rhyme with anything, and RM later has a good response, "OMG Barney, you're such a manly man!!" was pretty funny. Both sides use references, but SL uses more of them. While RM will link to something and then use a complex rhyming metaphor, SL tends to stay on topic more to the thing being discussed. While this doesn't allow for many complex rhyme schemes, sometimes simple works best. SL is able to give straightforward criticisms of RM, so I give him a 4 for disses.

RM makes use of a lot of analogies, comparing himself to King Arthur and using complex rhyme schemes. But I'm only evaluating the quality of disses here, not rhymes. RM's strongest line is his comeback about SL's post thanking Barney and whiteflame (although I posted on that thread too so maybe I should take offense to that?) Regardless, these are well-developed analogies that paint a clear picture. However, they mostly come across as threats or taunts that could be used against anyone, not specifically SL. I know that's not always the most important thing in rap battles, but when I have to separate disses from flow and lyricism, there's not much left to evaluate. I give this a 3, since the disses are good, even if they're not always based on real events.

Rhyming:
I looked for the best examples I could find of this from each rapper. SL's best was in R3, because I think he rhymed the most consistently there. "velocity" and "ferocity" were decently impressive rhymes, and "screw up" and "abuse...much" was a good multisyllabic rhyme. There's some loss of consistency since not every line rhymes, but I acknowledge that some of these lines are meant to be hype lines before a verse starts. I give SL's rhyming a 2.

RM has a lot of good examples, most prominently the opening of his R1 when "wetter" is rhymed with 7 other words on two syllables. There are a few slant rhymes, but RM balances very complex rhyme schemes with bars that make sense. I looked to see if these rhymes came at the expense of jumping from one topic to another or not making sense, and that was not the case. Regardless of how he did overall, RM's rhyming was very good, and I'll give it a 4.

Favorite line from SL: "Must hurt that The People chose an anti-semitic racist as President just so they didn't get stuck with you. Couldn’t even woo them with your charm and charisma, everyone was better off when you left."
Favorite line from RM: "Love a sycophant tryna mock his opponent showing love for Barney while having Whitesmoke and Shillton in a gangbang, all at once, stuffed piggy with a wilted chode down the throat"

RM wins 13 to 11, but this is a close one due to the use of very different strategies from each side.

Best.Korea

07.22.2023 04:34PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

Round 1

Pro
Lyricism: 4
Flow: 2
Diss: 3
Rhyme: 3

Total points: 12

Con
Lyricism: 4
Flow:4
Diss:3
Rhyme: 2

Total points: 13

Winner: Con

Round 2

Pro
Lyricism: 3
Flow: 2
Diss: 4
Rhyme: 2

Total points: 11

Con
Lyricism: 3
Flow: 4
Diss: 4
Rhyme: 3

Total points: 14

Winner: Con

Round 3

Pro
Lyricism: 3
Flow: 4
Diss:4
Rhyme: 2

Total points: 13

Con
Lyricism: 4
Flow: 4
Diss: 4
Rhyme: 4

Total points: 16

Winner: Con

Round 4

Pro
Lyricism: 4
Flow: 4
Diss: 4
Rhyme: 2

Total points: 14

Con
Lyricism: 3
Flow: 3
Diss: 3
Rhyme: 4

Total points: 13

Winner: Pro

Con won 3 out of 4 rounds and scored in total 3 points more in flow and 4 points more in rhyme. Lyricism is equal and Pro had 1 point more in diss.

Con's best round was round 3. Con's round 3 is the best overall round. Pro's best round was round 4.

"You called for me to unleash my wrath.
Now it’s gonna be a fucking bloodbath.
And I’m mopping the floor with you."
Very strong opening from Pro. Sends strong message right at the start, and is one reason why Pro got Lyricism 4 in round 1.

"You try rated rap battles 'cause you liked my idea and I challenged you and you knew the last win wasn't real 'cause Bella held back a vote, you're easy to provoke and just can't hide it,
You run around trying to get under everyone's skin, but under yours is only trauma and overcompensation, my bad I already discussed my dick,
I got my debate count by genuinely efficient moves, you do troll debates for votes to undermine the system I protested and instead of fight it you gave up instantly and decided to act in bad faith and override it"
Very good flow in this one. Lyricism too. However, rhyming is kinda not sensed at all.

"“OMG Barney, you're such a manly man!! 😍😍😍”
“You are the most impressive debater ever! Let me put you on a pedestal so I get your autograph!”
When it comes to bootlicking, this little piggy gives VP Weasel a run for his money.
Always thought he could attract more flies with honey.
Imagine tryna act alpha but doing all that fangirling over Barney and blamonkey."
Very strong diss, although flow didnt continue well after.

"Was bouta vote for you in the Election.
Until you unfriended me over some petty-ass bullshit.
So fuck you. I don’t owe you jack.
How bout you quit smoking that crack."
Probably the strongest diss in entire battle. This is where Pro started having good flow.

"Whiteflame responds to me with care when he aint even mentioned,
Road to hell's paved with you standin' up to the baddest in the land, what good intentions,
I call the shots, Chief mod gets to bendin', I'm the shotcaller you wish you backed, that wilted cunt's got a shrivelled clit, ditched the site to ressurect me, even to my worst enemies, I'm trendin',
Do you see this syllable mastery? Think you can outclass me? I'll smack your face in with a wrench till your jawbone's bendin',"
This is where Con scores perfect in all areas.

"Must hurt that The People chose an anti-semitic racist as President just so they didn't get stuck with you.
Couldn’t even woo them with your charm and charisma, everyone was better off when you left.
Only a small demographic wanted you back.
Stepping to me was a Death Sentence. Warned you it would be a fucking bloodbath, looks like I've had the last laugh.
Don’t you dare wage war on those that vote for me or you’ll quickly regret it."
Strong diss, flow and lyricism. However, surprising lack of rhyme. Still, Pro's strongest round.

Pro was struggling a lot with flow and rhyme. At many places, there is no rhyme at all. At others, the rhyme didnt exactly work out.
In the first two rounds, Pro's flow is basically non-existent. Flow changes in the middle of the round, and doesnt fit with the previous flow. It feels out of place.
Pro scored better in diss. Slightly better than Con.

The lyricism, when we ignore the flow, was great on both sides.

Con had consistently good flow and lyricism in first three rounds. He only seemed to lose flow in round 4.

Overall, Con scored more points and won 3/4 rounds, which is why I am giving win to Con.

Lemming

07.09.2023 03:36AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

@Reason for Vote
Lyricism: RM 2
Lyricism: Lance 1

Flow: RM 1
Flow: Lance 1

Diss: RM 1
Diss: Lance 2

Rhyme: RM 1
Rhyme: Lance 1

RM longer sentences played to lyricism, and if read quick flowed,
Lance shorter sentences flowed and made rhymes more obvious,
But RM rhymes and flow 'also there, just the shorter sentences made Lance's more visually obvious on 'first look,
So still a tie in rhyme and flow, since different methods of reading made either obvious,
Lance focused on diss more than RM, more personal, more sources, 'seemed like,
If there was a brag category, might be I would have put RM a higher point for that.

@NoOneInParticular
Too much profanity, personal insults, styles of bragging, for my liking.
I suppose I like 'some rap, but not 'generally speaking.

FishChaser

07.07.2023 04:39PM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

See comments

07.07.2023 01:21AM

Criterion

Pro

Tie

Con

Points

Better arguments

3 point(s)

Better sources

2 point(s)

Better legibility

1 point(s)

Better conduct

1 point(s)

Reason:

People don't know how to read. All 7 points go to the winner.

Lyricism: 4:2. RM
Flow: 1:4 SL
Diss: 3:4 SL
Rhyme: 2:4 SL

Total is RM - 10. SL - 14. Per the description, SL gets all 7 points.

RM knew they had an uphill battle to get it all stitched together by breaking things up to explain some of the previous rounds. RM is a fantastic lyricist, using a great vocabulary, innuendo, metaphor and intellect. SL is crisp, and tidy. Easier to read. I think that the lyricism of the "diss" would go to RM, however the flow and execution forced me to have to read a few times, and that just did not work for me.