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@drafterman
So oro is brilliant town but is lackluster scum?
I do suck at playing SCUM, I'm afraid.

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9. Ragnar                    The Thinker                    WATCHER       #113
TOWN                         Claim                                        Role          DP1
3. oromagi                 Supergirl                                                      #269
1. skittlez09               Savitar   [1#7]                          MILLER
4. SupaDudz             Martin Stein [1#117]             LOVER     #132
5. Intelligence_06   Ronnie Raymond [1#117]   LOVER
8. SirAnonymous    .                                                    .                  #157
6. Lunatic                   .                                                    .                  #477
7. MisterChris           .                                                      .                #257 #342
2. drafterman           .                                                      .                #165
SCUM


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SO all the "roles unknown" have checked in and nobody has claimed COP.  That's too bad but it certainly weakens skittlez' claim.
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Cops generally don’t out innos except to save someone.
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New rule: Blocking people during a game is not allowed.
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drafterman is being replaced. Please give me a bit to find his replacement

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@Speedrace
drafterman is being replaced. Please give me a bit to find his replacement


I was about to replace out thank god
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@drafterman
Cops generally don’t out innos except to save someone.

Yeh, & my best guess is that if there's a COP he checked out TUF.

Therefore, I'm down to SA and MrC

VTL Sir Anonymous

Character claim first, please
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Ragnar is replacing drafterman.
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@Lunatic
Uhh why do you and drafterman have beef again?
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I LIVE!
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oromagiMisterChris (1/5)
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@Barney
are you a Plastique?  yes or no?
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Hard to say now. Drafter was my biggest scum read besides skittlez. Let's see how Rag fairs
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Uhh why do you and drafterman have beef again?
Idk I don't treat meta disagreements as beef. 
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@Drafter (which isn't playing but still a note)

Having a disagreement with someone in regards to a forum game isn't a warrant for a block. When two minds that are experienced and performed well butt, they usually engage in conversation. I know I have disagreed with Lunatic on the way I've played games and such, but I still consider him a good friend and wouldn't block him over a mafia game. I think it's childish to block someone and alot of the people that have blocked either have acted childish or are childish, e.g TRN
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@Lunatic
That's a good philo to live by
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I hate to do meta analysis and such in this game, but I think this gives town to Lunatic and Drafterman. Unless 1 of them is scum, I don't think either of them scum read eachother at all, which is my concern. This was a mafia argument turned sour. So I think this rules out Luna and Drafter
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My theory is that Drafter was signaling TUF in-game and TUF was misinterpreting as out-game rancor
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So I'm going to restructure the list

These are my top 4 likely scum

1. skittlez09
3. oromagi
7. MisterChris
8. SirAnonymous

Right now I am removing oromagi from the lynch field. Oromagi usually reveals his role and what he did in the DP2 and outs it, so I think that's typical play. I don't think the word incentived would be the best to describe the situation. You don't have to listen, and I think he was doing a Town WIFOM trying to get the NK on him so he can strike. Oromagi is not a gambit player in my opinion. He isn't someone who takes wild risks in attempt to confuse town. 

1. skittlez09
7. MisterChris
8. SirAnonymous

I think it's one of these 3. Skittlez is top
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1. skittlez09
7. MisterChris
8. SirAnonymous

I think it's one of these 3. Skittlez is top
2 of these 3 and skittlez is only scum if there's no COP.  (Unless you and Intel are gambiting, that is)
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@oromagi
My theory is that Drafter was signaling TUF in-game and TUF was misinterpreting as out-game rancor
No, I asked in the mod discord how bans work, because I genuinely don't know. I was curious if drafter was ignoring me or actually couldn't see my post where I was asking him to unblock me. He reported me because he thought that counted as "out of game talk", though I was genuinely curious about how blocks work. I've never been blocked so I had no idea.
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blocks* not bans
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The messed up thing is that there was an actual in game reason behind most of my arguments against him last phase. I'll explain when it becomes necessary, but I don't actually care as much as he thinks I do about VNTL's vs lynches. 
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Drafter left the mod discord and the regular discord as well
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@Vader
lol okay. well I am gonna change the subject now, I don't wanna linger the whole phase on this. I am shocked that anyone would be offended by me enough to leave the site. I feel pretty guilty about it. I wouldn't have said half of what I did if I knew he would block me and leave over it, but I thought he could take a good hearty argument. 

Anyways... I am conflicted here. I was really banking on results last phase and we have none. I still think the lover pair was town, but that's mostly because I think mafia were leaving you alive for a mislynch after the lengthy discussion of it last phase. Oro has explained his reasons for why he said that and they feel kind of genuine, but I am sure he could spin it that way as scum. I think I should probably weigh the situation better when I am sober. I am not discounting chris or sir either. Chris feels really town to me, and sir is hard to read in general. Drafter felt scummy to me too, so Ragnar isn't out of the question. I think my focus is on one of those four this phase.


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Signing off early tonight, pretty drunk. Gn yall.
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 I am shocked that anyone would be offended by me enough to leave the site. I feel pretty guilty about it. I wouldn't have said half of what I did if I knew he would block me and leave over it, but I thought he could take a good hearty argument. 
Didn't you say you scared off that1user a few games back? 
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Didn't you say you scared off that1user a few games back? 
Yes. I tried to reach out to her though. She never responded :/