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@iamanabanana
we should make a detailed list telling everyone clearly how to submit their votes according to this method, so that way there isn't any risk of people claiming mistakes or confusion.
Agree, we can decide that after we figure out who to give the prize to. Right now, I'm thinking Moozer is the best choice.
What's your POE looking like right now?
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Wylted- 6/6- savant, casey, Whiteflame, pie, moozer, earth
Votecount from last DP.
I strongly townread Savant. Moozer is copped town; it's very unlikely scum Earth fakes an inno on his scum partner because it ties them so closely together, and given that 8 v 3 is already fairly scumsided, I think giving a godfather/lawyer is just too much, especially since scum have two anti-informational roles (vote hider and some sort of janitor).
Whiteflame and Pie are light townreads for me, Earth is neutral but I think if he's scum he has no reason to claim the inno on Moozer imo. So one scum maximum among these three, maybe zero.
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Also, I think it's unlikely Wylted was bussed, and if he was bussed, he probably had one vote on him max. The reason is that his role was one-shot and fairly powerful, so scum had a really compelling reason to keep him alive for at least one night to so he could get off his role.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@Mikal
@Moozer325
Game for today: Today's game idea will not be trivia this time, instead the prize for todays winner will be selected by all of the players. All players can choose to submit three names. The person with the most votes at the end of the day phase will be the winner of selected prize.Votes must be listed 1-3, one being the strongest, 3 being the weakest. Votes in the number 1 will count heavier than number three votes for example.1. Playername2. Playername23. Playername 3The mafia team will submit votes together, not separately.
There is a pretty clearly optimal strategy here, that's going to require some coordination.
Basically, we all collectively choose someone to get the prize, and then all have them as our strongest vote. That's obvious.
The important part is that your number 2 and number 3 votes should be scattered among all the other players. This way, scum can't manipulate voting to bump up the second/third choices into 1st.
So for example, your votes should look like this:
1. Town player
2. random guy
3. random guy
The easiest way to coordinate spreading votes for the second/third places in order to avoid them getting too many votes is to go in a circle using the playerlist.
1. Whiteflame2. Mharman3. Mikal4. Austin5. iLikePie56. Moozer7. Banana8. Earth9. Savant
Once we remove the player who we all agree we're going to give our top vote, then you should give your second vote to the player below you and your third vote to the player two places below you. For example, if we agree on Moozer being town, then I would vote:
1. Moozer
2. Pie
3. Banana (because Moozer got removed from the list)
This mathematically makes it impossible for scum to manipulate the vote to a different result than what town agrees to.
Thoughts?
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Mikal's thoughts feel really close to my own right now, and given that I know my perspective on claims is coming from a town place, I also feel like he's playing in a pretty pro-town way. Him, Savant, and Casey are probs my strongest townreads right now, don't see myself being easily wrong on one of them.
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I don't really support a whiteflame claim, I don't see what he's done that's scummy and getting a claim just for the sake of getting claims feels pointless. Claims are meant to be a situational tool for the rest of the game to improve their read on the player who's claiming, not as something that's arbitrarily applied to players who aren't being townread.
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Btw, don't hammer early, we should use all the time we have.
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I reread through Earth's posts earlier when Pie tagged me (forgot to respond to that, sorry), didn't really get a strong read because so much of this day phase has been Earth responding to pressure from Mikal and it's hard to get an accurate alignment read on that because either alignment can be defensive. I'd probably be willing to sheep Mikal there because I don't really have anyone who I find too much scummier other banana, who I haven't really read enough of to be confident in trying to switch the lynch to (nor do I think I have the thread influence to do so).
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and regarding the whole Moozer/Banana claim thing, I buy Moozer's soft, based on what I remember of his scum play I don't think he commits to that kind of soft like that as scum and he handled the whole thing pretty well. I don't really like banana pressuring Moozer to claim because he's been inactive, Mikal covered the reasoning well, but claims are meant to catch scum, not to punish people for their play.
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I liked Moozer's recent posts btw, I think he showed some genuine curiosity in his convo with banana.
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@iamanabanana
To me:
austin [is potential scum] for "I have to be town, I wouldnt do x and x otherwise"
Doesn't fit with:
I don't see this as being AI for Austin in particular; he often uses a lot of self-analysis in his posts, both as town and as mafia.Maybe you are right, but I would have just assumed all that stuff as true if he didn't point it out, so that's the only reason I thought it was odd.
Like... it's shifting a NAI thing at best into potential scum? Idk, maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it feels like a contradiction. Banana, could you explain your reasoning here?
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Not sure what to make of banana's reasoning on me; me making self-analysis is NAI by itself, but the thing is, even if my analysis isn't necessarily reliable, that doesn't really invalidate my posts that are being analyzed in the first place.
Phrased that kinda poorly so: I can understand her being hesitant on her read on me; but I would trust it more if she gave an independent attempt to townread my posts, whereas right now, her read comes down to:
Also a role being confirmable doesnt mean he is town. Anyways, hes not a strong scum read, but I did feel he was overselling his towniness a bit too far.
So it feels like I'm just in POE despite her not really having read me (implied by saying I'm not a scum read, i.e. I am a scum read to some extent); and it can't be for the self-analysis itself, because other people have said it's NAI, and I don't really like how she just ignores my role; even if it *can* be scum, it's still town the majority of the time. Feels kinda hedgy.
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Mikal acting as a town leader feels pretty towny, like how he's trying to create cohesion when day 1's on this site tend to go wrong pretty often due to a deadline scramble. His POE is roughly the same as mine, with Earth/banana/Moozer, I have Mharman and Wylted as weak townleans but not too confident.
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@ILikePie5
It’s a Freudian slip. Moozer shouldn’t know that everyone else is a mislynch but he should know that he is a mislynch
Or it's an phrasing mistake. Moozer can be scum, but this isn't a reason to be burying him.
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Anyway, skimmed through Mharman's posts, it's decent enough so I probs wouldn't vote for him today, liked his perspective in regard to Mikal/Earth.
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I briefly read through Pie btw, idk, it seems to fit my memory of aggressive town Pie but I also have a pretty bad track record of reading Pie so not super confident nor did I put much effort into reading there.
Checking Mharman now.
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@Casey_Risk
Good question. Do you think #534 by Moozer is actually a scumslip like Pie suggested? At first I wasn't really sure, but then he made that post where he said, "Besides, I was part of the four, so I wouldn't call myself a mislynch." Which is just a weird statement? I don't know what he meant by that.I can see it being nothing, but I'm also having a hard time finding a reason to townread him. What do you think?
The phrasing is definitely weird - particularly how he says they're "clear mislynch targets", which implies that Mikal is pushing incorrectly. I read his posts after that though, however, and I think his perspective makes sense - basically, he's broadly saying pushing inactives is scummy. I don't really agree with that, but given how often he gets pushed in his town games for being inactive, I can see him believing in that.
The post after that doesn't mean much to me, people get hung up on phrasing stuff like that when I find perspective and motivation a lot more important; consider, if that's a scumslip from Moozer, what motivated the scumslip? The idea that, as he's making that post, he is saying he's a correct lynch? It's not out of the realm of possibility, but when most people are town out of pure probability, I'm not giving much credence to that being a scum mistake as opposed to a regular mistake.
That being said, after going through his posts, I don't have a strong read on him in either direction. He's posting okay, but it mostly seems like pretty neutral takes/commentary. I haven't played with Moozer in a while so I'm not sure how much of it is style indicative as opposed to alignment indicative, but yeah, that's roughly where I'm at.
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ok I just need reads on Mharman and Pie.
Also, Casey, since you're around, is there anything you think I should prioritize looking into? I'm at school rn, don't have a ton of time but I am trying to catch up as best as I can.
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oh I forgot, Wylted is a townlean, I liked the immediate pressure he put on me when I came in, felt like he was trying to solve me in good faith. Also had some good posts early on, nothing amazing though so that's why it's just a lean.
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Casey saying that self-analysis is NAI for me only reaffirms my townread on them, I feel like scum Casey would be more opportunistic or try and encourage/go along with banana already being hesitant on me. Shows a genuine desire to solve.
Right now I'm confident in Savant/Mikal/Casey being town. I'm pretty sure WF is town off meta. Not sure about Earth but his response to pressure didn't seem terrible and his claim makes sense. Moozer and banana are trending around null to me (if I was being fully honest, banana might be a bit below null, but I feel bad scumreading players who I haven't had the chance to fully read yet)
Should still be a few players I haven't read, let me check.
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Mikal's sudden realization that Earth lynch is hard because scum might not be helping is extremely towny, scum struggle to fake that perspective of a town wondering what a hypothetical scumteam would be doing; just reads as a moment of genuine solving.
Whiteflame's read on banana is pretty good and maybe sheepable, I had the exact same worry about banana not mentioning my role claim; don't want to jump to conclusions yet, but I remember her being a player who cares more about mechanics.
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@Earth
Also just saying if I was scum then I would have one or two scum partners (dunno how many scum there are in this game, I'm guessing 2 scum and a 3PDoes no one read opening posts anymore? There are 3 mafiosos.My justification is that Survivor is a show about having physical and mental trials to the very end yadda yadda last town etc.
I didn't read it, when I didn't have a read on a single player I didn't exactly prioritize reading the mod posts. If I was scum I'd know the actual number of scum which should make me town here but it's also technically fakable so read me off it or not, idc lol.
The justification fits fine I think.
Who are your main scumreads right now?
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I have like the barest basics of a worldview now but I don't feel confident in any of it.
I need to go study, I'll be back in like 45 minutes. If anyone is around, please give a direction for me to explore, it can be a player, a particular section of the game, a specific interaction, etc, but I really need something to bite on to.
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Moozer seems pretty null to me, nothing stood out to me when I was reading through his posts
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Reads List 2.0Each player is assigned an estimated probability of being town based on how towny or scummy they are. The average probability of being town is 70%, since there are 7 town players besides me and 3 scum players.Casey_Risk
- Town Lean (77.5%)
- Playing as Town: SKdp1, SKdp2, SKdp3
- Playing as Scum: Gunplaydp1, Gunplaydp2, Gunplaydp3
- #78 - TL - I don’t think scum Casey would agree with no lynch either, but this is a towny concern to bring up.
- #80, #86, #91 - TL - I agree with the read on banana, and I think defending other players like this for pretty justifiable reasons is pro-town. Some of these things not being super AI is why my reads aren’t super strong at the moment, but I thought it was worth taking everything into account. I think generously town reading players is an unlikely scum play, and it indicates that Casey is not worried about POE getting too small around them.
- #81 - TL - Not super indicative, but I think enthusiasm for sharing role information is generally a good sign.
- #98, #102, #129, #147 - TL - Feels like genuine scum hunting, inquiry, and theme analysis.
- #155, #190 - SL - The first post seemed like it could be genuine, and I’ve seen townies with convictions like this. However, in the second post, it’s odd that Casey quoted Mikal without noting that Luna said the tactic didn’t go against the rules. Might indicate that Casey objected for the purpose of hindering town.
- #129, #193, #200, #210 - TL - Concise and reasonable. Casey stuck more to the details of other people’s posts in their town game (Serial Killers) here and here for example, but tended to ramble and be more verbose in their scum game here and here for example. Also drawing more attention to themselves than they need to just to ask questions, which I don’t think scum would expect to be town read for.
- #205 - TL - Town reading another player they don’t have to, but mostly with substantive info. Could have been more concise in response to my previous post to be more town read but wasn’t. (And despite having a paragraph it doesn’t feel like rambling.) Fixation on a small detail that town might genuinely be bugged by but that scum would probably avoid going down for fear of looking like they’re trying to invent an issue.
- #218, #227, #228 - TL - More solid, pro-town analysis that seems like noticeable effort to identify scum and town
Mikal
- Town Lean (75.5%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, Riddledp1, Riddledp2
- Playing as Scum: Ozarkdp1, Ozarkdp2, Ozarkdp3
- #16 - TL - An early post where the vote seems more substantive than for “joke” reasons, even if the goal is just to get someone’s attention, it’s not presented alongside a quip.
- #18, #25, #27 - TL - Ticking off another player like this would be an odd move coming from scum. Really I only see it biasing people against Mikal, hence I’m inclined to town read it. WIFOM, I know, but I just don’t see Mikal banking on being town read for being annoying.
- #34, #57, #137 - TL - I like that Mikal is taking the lead, and the explanation of the even-odd strat seems largely towny.
- #36, #38 - TL - Confronting another player out the gate is good, and Mikal is asking something I was curious about as well. This is pro-town at the very least. Also Mikal tends to be more confrontational as town (here, here, here, here) and more laid-back as scum (here, here, here)
- #165 - TL - This kind of indecision and uncertainty about another player comes from town more often than from scum.
- #209 - TL - Sticks to his guns without planting additional seeds for a push.
iamabanana
- Town Lean (72.5%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, JFdp3
- Playing as Scum: BBdp1, BBdp2
- #7 - TL - Posting early draws attention, and I don’t think scum would be inclined to do so without a joke or something to justify the post, seem natural, etc.
- #33, #41 - T - I don’t see scum Banana coming out and giving info about her role without being asked. She’s played a few games, so it’s possible for this to be a tactic, but I think scum wouldn’t play this risky.
- #198 - LT - I like how banana sticks to her guns here, and the answer seems focused on town perspective rather than just being defensive.
- #199 - LT - Putting pressure on inactives like this is a town concern, and her response before is long and noticeable enough that just voting for Moozer wouldn’t be done to divert attention. If banana were scum under pressure, I think she would focus on either putting pressure on Moozer or giving a sufficient defense (not both).
Earth
- Town Lean (72.5%)
- Playing as Town: CoDdp1, CoDdp2, CoDdp3
- Playing as Scum: RRV2dp1, RRV2dp2, RRV2dp3
- #35 - TL - For an infrequent poster, drawing attention early without a need comes across as more instinctive to town than to scum.
- #117 - TL - I don’t think scum Earth would offer to out his show without prompting.
- #157 - TL - Pro-town imo to advocate this strategy, even offering a way to make it more feasible.
- #235, #239, #240 - T - So much agreement here, and I’ll give Earth more credit for this than someone like WF (who is very towny as scum). If anything, I might suspect that Earth is copying my reads, but overall his reasoning is close to what I would say.
Mharman
- Town Lean (72%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, JFdp3
- Playing as Scum: CoDdp1, CoDdp2, CoDdp3
- #60, #61 - TL - Strategizing that doesn’t give off any red flags. There’s a question posed to Pie that could be manipulative but seems more like an attempt to get a read, and I like that. Don’t know that scum would have thought to do that.
- #105 - T - The read on Mikal seems genuine. I have a hard time seeing scum suspect someone and then give a reason why they actually might not be suspicious with zero pushback.
- #143, #144, #145 - TL - More questions that seem like they’re coming from a towny perspective, I don’t think scum Mharman would pretend not to know if scum have questions just to get town read.
iLikePie5
- Null (70%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, TRdp1
- Playing as Scum: TVdp1, TVdp2
- #48, #49, #51 - TL - I like that Pie’s first posts are immediately about the game, no attempts to gain cred just through agreeableness.
- #55, #119, #120 - NAI - After reading Casey’s post, I agree that this probably isn’t a town slip. Pie’s explanation is fine. I could see these posts coming from either alignment
- #121, #122, #124, #126, #127 - SL - Pie is active as usual, which isn’t particularly AI, but his posts seem kind of noncommittal, mostly agreeing or giving meta information about players. Kind of the bare minimum to appear active.
- #125 - TL - I like that Pie is challenging a player, somewhat mitigates with my concerns about the other posts being noncommittal
- #136, #138 - TL - Towny concerns, and it somewhat convinces me the earlier meta analysis was genuinely aimed toward helping town
- #141, #142 - TL - Retracting an accusation like that indicates to me it was probably sincere. Could be faked or maybe forced by the situation, but I don’t think scum Pie would back down out of fear or plan to challenge and then back down.
Wylted
- Scum Lean (66%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, CoDdp1
- Playing as Scum: Castledp1
- #3 - SL - I know it’s WIFOM, but if this post is alignment indicative (not convinced it is), I think the intent is to appear unafraid of gaining attention and hence towny, especially since WyIted is usually given a pass for such posts. Which in turn makes it a strategic move for scum.
- #45 - SL - I don’t love that WyIted immediately qualifies his claim with a fun fact about reality shows. If he gave that information separately, it would be fine, but I think that when people are being deceptive or discussing information they don’t want revealed, they have a tendency to immediately answer the question and then change the subject.
- #77 - TL - The concern here seems towny, since we are only a few pages in.
- #93, #95, #97, #103, #108 - TL - This actually mitigates some of my previous concerns, it comes across as WyIted genuinely being interested in theme analysis and the topic in general.
whiteflame
- Scum Lean (65%)
- Playing as Town: CoDdp1, CoDdp2, CoDdp3
- Playing as Scum: JFdp1, JFdp2, JFdp3
- #16 - SL - With WF it’s always difficult to tell, but starting the game with something unrelated to this particular game seems more aimed at gaining town cred through camaraderie.
- #17, #21, #23 - SL - I understand WF’s frustration here, I really do, but their reasons for refusing Mikal aren’t framed from a game strategy perspective. The case could be made that Mikal’s strategy does work for reading WF, and WF only challenges it out of personal distaste. Casey is probably right that this isn’t that significant, so the lean is very slight.
- #28 - SL - After being pressured, I think this post could be made to change the subject, which WF can get away with because of Mikal’s brash demeanor, and the formalities beside the vote could be meant to ensure the vote isn’t met with hostility. I think town would be more inclined to pressure other players, while scum would be more inclined to befriend them
- #32 - TL - WF complimenting Mikal’s strategy like this actually strikes me as more towny than scummy. It’s WF, and he could easily be thinking that giving credence to Mikal here is the towny move; however, I think there were alternative responses that could have been more strategic for scum and planted bigger seeds for suspecting Mikal
- #75 - TL - The frustration seems towny, and it indicates to me that the previous frustration was likely genuine as well, not solely to avoid pressure.
- #106 - SL - Feels a bit like WF is planting seeds for suspicion on Mikal without outright saying it or giving reads. Also when responding to a call for engagement, this post seems like it throws suspicion toward the most convenient player rather than analyzing the game as a whole and really scum hunting.
- #109, #115 - SL - I think a town player would be more likely to start making progress from what they have. Waiting for claims and for inactives to post (not even the first to note inactive players) could be a convenient way to test the waters.
- #234 - LT - I’m seeing a good amount of effort here put into explaining the “why” behind his reads, and all of it seems fairly logical from a town perspective. I agree with him here more than I disagree with him, and I don’t see any opportunistic scum reads or possibly partnered town reads sticking out.
- #241 - LT - Agree on Casey being a top town read. See where WF is coming from on Mikal’s behavior, and if WF is town, then it makes sense for there to be no clear scum reads atm. Maybe I’m giving too much credit based off of agreement, and I do think scum WF would acknowledge strong town reads, but the lack of apparent agenda here is a green flag.
AustinL0926Moozer325
Alright nevermind, this looks even more sheepable than whiteflame.
Whiteflame townreads Savant, Savant scumreads whiteflame, I townread both of them, Savant is almost always town here not to mention all the other reasons I have to townlock him.
I'm going to look more into Moozer, this also confirms Casey as a townread for me. I'm still hesitant on whiteflame, honestly i looked at Savant's reasons for scumreading him and I literally townread the same posts he scumread so eh.
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Also just realized I forgot to claim my character (I was in a rush sorry), my character is Family Feud, because it's a gameshow that consists of two families directly competing against each other.
Seems like a pretty bad justification because there are lots of 1v1 gameshows, but that's just what Luna gave me so eh.
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Also just saying if I was scum then I would have one or two scum partners (dunno how many scum there are in this game, I'm guessing 2 scum and a 3P based on typical DART balance but would not bet on it) who would help me catch up or at least tell me what not to do when catching up, I'm completely lost rn. You don't have to believe me on this, but yeah, I would like people to give me a chance today because anyone who's played with me before knows I'm capable of being obvious town once I get into a game.
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@Earth
Uh, rephrase?
I'm reading purely off behavior right now. I also haven't read pages 6-15 and will not be doing so for the foreseeable future.
Is there any mechanical info that would affect my reads, that I should know about?
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Just remembered Savant just finished his MU game, I think if he rands scum right after having a town mindset for so long, there's no way he fakes this much activity and nuanced posts. Probs my strongest townread.
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Okay, maybe I'm wrong here. But there's these little things I just can't quite shake. It's small, but DP1 is the time to push people based on small, possibly nothing things. And I know I'm probably not going to have the time to build a case against anyone until Saturday, so I have to put myself out there and do this now.VTL MikalLet me make my post explaining my case
bleedingly towny post from Casey. Briefly skimmed the rest of their posts and they're just constantly exploring in a bunch of different directions and following up on their questions/pushes, on D1 that's good enough for a townpass from me.
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Townreads for hopefully good reasons:
Whiteflame
Savant
Casey
weaker townleans from early on:
Mikal
Wylted
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@Earth
@WyIted
Have there been any mechanical claims this DP yet?
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I appreciate the read set, even if I disagree with your read on me in particular. I'll post a set of reads myself later when I can sit down and write it out.As for responding to the specifics, frankly, I don't have a clear strategy. I've said if people want my claim, they can push me for it, but I don't love that it's becoming the norm for Mikal to start in on me because he got me last game. That doesn't strike me as effective game strategy to just keep pushing the same person game after game, and it's frankly frustrating because, in both games, the reasoning has been that I suck at fake claiming and am active. I don't know exactly how you think I should respond to that if you think this response is scummy. I'm not going to vanish into the background so I'm inactive enough that he forgets me, and I'm not just going to surrender information on that basis. At the same time, I'm also not just going to sit here defending myself so, yeah, I put all of one post's worth of attention on one of the inactives.None of that really matters, though. If you think what I've said so far is scummy and other people agree, I'll give my claim and we can get this over with. - WHITEFLAME
okay I read this one post and decided whiteflame randed town. there's zero nervousness about being pressured early on, it's pure frustration that naturally comes from a town who knows he's done nothing wrong. it's like 80% a meta read, scum!whiteflame just reacts in a different way to pressure, he struggles with faking that sort of outrage and tends to deflect or try and address things with pure logic - he's much more disassociated.
I think this means I get a pass to sheep WF now, one sec.
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Ok.
Savant is obvious town.
banana, Wylted, and Mikal are probably town.
That's all I got from pages 1-5.
I'm going to check WF real quick because he's usually really sheepable when he rands town.
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Ok my plan for tonight is just to skim through the first five pages of thread, find someone I townread, and then sheep their reads. 500 posts is literally insane, like we've had whole games with half that number of posts.
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@WyIted
You have more credibility if you claim before you read through to see what claims to avoid as well
I'm x1 Gladiator, modified.
When I challenge someone, the thread gets locked, and then everyone gets asked a survey question. If my answer to the survey question is closer to everyone else's, I survive, if the person I challenge's answer is closer to everyone else, they survive.
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can someone give me summary of what happened? I can't catch up with 500 posts right now, I literally just checked thread and I need to revise for my exams tomorrow
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my role is confirmable, it used to be like town 90% of the time but recently some mods have had it as mafia so idk if that still holds
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oh god I didn't think this was going to start until after the weekend
I just got back from a trip and it's literally 20 pages
I haven't checked vote count yet, I assume I'm probably the default lynch, I can claim if people want me ot?
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@Mikal
Nice to see you back, you were fun to spectate in games back in the day.
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@ILikePie5
/out
put me as a backup please, going to be insanely busy for the next week
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Lunatic (1/4): ADOL
Did you know? In 1867, Russia sold the territory of Alaska to the US for $7.2 million, or about 2 cents per acre.
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That2 (3/5, EXECUTED): ADOL, Banana, Pie
Lunatic (1/5): That2
That2User was executed! She was... innocent!
Submit night actions to Casey, not me. If you submit night actions to me, I will probably just tell you to resubmit them to Casey.
The deadline for night actions is Saturday the 19th at 10 PM EDT. If you do not submit in time, you will automatically waive. If you cannot waive, your night action(s) will be chosen for you at random.
Clarification: A day phase has not been skipped. The next day phase will continue like normal.
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That2 (2/5): ADOL, Banana
Mharman (1/5): Pie
Lunatic (1/5): That2
Did you know? Due to a change in Russia's calendar system, the so-called "October Revolution" is actually celebrated each year on November 7th. At this point, it's a bit too late to change the name.
[Note: I'm helping Casey with modding and designing some parts of the game. If you have any questions and Casey isn't responding, feel free to DM me - however, if I'm not 100% sure of the answer, I probably will be on the safe side and defer to Casey.]
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You did pretty well last year, just unfortunate that you went against a brutal scum team.
I can't go because someone nommed me as one of the candidates to rep MU (I play a lot there) and I accepted, so even if I don't win the vote (there are like 7 other people who got nommed) I'm ineligible to rep another community.
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
Any one of you interested?
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