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@RationalMadman
No they don't as so far we have four martial arts with a heavy focus on mental discipline aspects and one more physical and freeform (wrestling).
A) You don’t know that that’s the theme. It’s only plausible
B) Wylted’s behavior is impossible to read
C) ComputerNerd’s behavior is noticeably different from his past two games as town
A+B+C = Your vote should be on ComputerNerd
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@RationalMadman
That makes absolutely no sense lmfao.
Have you even considered the possibility that ComputerNerd is scum? Literally read his games. He literally claims the “noob defense” in the game. That’s scummy af
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No one should buy into RM’s theories because they’re dumb. Why would Lunatic put the thematic split in a towny’s PM?
Especially in a game where he didn’t give fake claims to scum. Do y’all realize how dumb that is?
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@Mharman
I just think CNerd's behavior is too much noob town to me.
How though? It’s completely different that his noob town behavior from the previous 2 games. There is a notable distinction.
As for you, your logic I vehemently disagree with, but being wrong doesn't mean being scum. So I have not much else to go on for you I guess. But I do have an eye on you still.
I laid it out to you how different his behavior his. Noob town don’t change their behavior. It’s pretty simple.
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@That2User
You realize that RM is basing his “theory” over some vague notion that Lunatic put the thematic split in his PM right?
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@That2User
Link me last game and I will read, in detail give me how CN 180d behaviorally between games
Sure.
This is Ozark Mafia where he was town (his 2nd game)
This is Anime Waifus (his first game where he was Hydra with Disc)
In these games, he was super passive. Never did any theme analysis. Claimed like instantly (first thing he did).
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@RationalMadman
You’re overthinking your PM wayyyy too hard. It literally means nothing.
I’ve never seen anyone overthink this this hard. Well besides girls. And I don’t think you’re a girl
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@Mharman
I'm sussing both. Up to you
Interesting, care to explain?
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@Vader
@That2User
Vote ComputerNerd. His behavior has been different. Literally read the last game and then this game. The difference is like Day and Night
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@RationalMadman
You do realize that your theory could be wrong. Hell you’re not even sure if your current theory is correct. You’re also under the assumption that Lunatic gave an “Easter egg” only to your character. It makes absolutely no sense. Getting more characters makes absolutely no sense
The fact that Mharman and CN are buddying you concerns me. I townread you atm because you’re an unCCed investigative role, but I don’t think it’s obvious that the theme was given to you.
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RM - Kung Fu —> Justice
That2user - Karate —> Vanilla
iLikePie5
ComputerNerd - Aikido
Mharman - Sambo
Supadudz
Whiteflame
Earth
Incel-Chud - Wrestling
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@RationalMadman
Have you asked whether Lawyers, Framers, GFs, etc have any impact with the functionality of your role?
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RM - Savate/Krav Maga —> Justice
That2user - Karate —> Vanilla
iLikePie5
ComputerNerd - Aikido
Mharman - Sambo
Supadudz
Whiteflame
Earth
Incel-Chud - Wrestling
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@Mharman
i trust his analysis right now; just want some thoughts from supa
He thinks Lunatic gave him the thematic split in his PM. I frankly think that’s laughable. You’re welcome to believe it.
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@Mharman
I am townreading CNerd because he is genuinely cooperating with town and the first thing he did in this game that strikes me as noteworthy is he claimed under no pressure whatsoever because he liked RM's idea.
This is distinct from outright claiming, which he has done in the past games. He made 3-4 posts with detailed analysis, which we never have seen before from him. Then he decided to buddy with RM and claim.
While some other townies and I had reservations about the strat, CNerd's first instinct here was to reveal what he could.
No, his first instinct was to reveal what he thought was Wylted’s character. I don’t know how you believe this behavior is normal from him.
This is exactly what he did in Ozark Mafia, except this time he didn't reveal his role.
No. There’s was zero analysis from him in that game. Absolutely zero. Now he comes out of nowhere and starts researching and being extremely active? That is a complete behavior shift.
And yet, the pattern of outting too much in an effort to cooperate is still here a bit. He clearly attempts to contribute (Post #35), and he says he is townreading Wylted (Post #42) there but he had already outted what character he thinks Wylted is by then (Post #37).
That’s my point. If he was town, he’d be more laid back. As scum mafia feel like they have the obligation to post to seem like they’re contributing. You can’t townread him for “contributing” when scum can do that too.
While obviously you don't want to out something like that if you (especially if you think the character is a defensive role), I don't think that makes CNerd scum, only noob town. If he were scum he would out it in a mafia PM, not to the rest of town.
He has to maintain the facade of noob town as scum, which is why he claimed without any pressure. And he’s being active af. Again this behavior is inconsistent with his town behavior form the last game.
Given how inexperienced CNerd is at this game, I think it would also makes sense for him to make misplays like that, especially because outting too much information is the exact same noob mistake he made in Ozark Mafia.
I agree that this is noob mistake, but it’s a noob mafia mistake. I’ve seen noobs for years and this difference of behavior is concerning.
As for his increased activity, I just chalk that up to him being more enthusiastic about this game, or perhaps a tad more confident.
Confidence comes from information. Mafia have information. You can read it as noob all you want. Maybe it is. But there’s a clear distinction in behavior and we should act on it.
Either way, I am not going to scumread someone for making an effort to try more. So yes, because I townread CNerd, I believe his Aikido claim.
I think he’s scum based on behavior.
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@oromagi
—Chuck Grassley
Or
—Patrick Leahy
Or
—Patrick Leahy
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@RationalMadman
So you’re telling me that your justification forms the basis for your theme analysis.
What makes you think that Lunatic would tell you just the theme. Let’s assume it is reasonable. We have to test it. So let’s lynch Computer who we both agree can be scum and figure it out
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I AM SPARTACUS
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@RationalMadman
sure, claim first
No.
it's either extremely scum or extremely town, I can tell you that much
Lol ok. Keep your secrets to yourself. I’m still gonna lynch Computer
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@RationalMadman
Is Aikido scum or town according your proposed theme?
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@RationalMadman
@Vader
@whiteflame
@Mharman
@Incel-chud
Let’s lynch ComputerNerd. His behavior has been completely different compared to previous games. And he says his role says disarm, which is comparable to Roleblocker.
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@ComputerNerd
Pie: What behavior exactly? You read me as scum based off of 5 posts. There is no possible way for me to prove I'm innocent. I'll reiterate that my MMA is Aikido, known for being a disarming technique.
This proactive behavior is extremely unlike you and is completely different from your games as town. Scum have more incentive to be proactive and lead discussion in games.
And what emphasizes my suspicion is “disarming” actually. It screams Roleblocker to me.
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I’m comfortable lynching either ComputerNerd or That1User today.
I’ll give RM town benefits since he’s unCCed investigate role even though he’s supporting a mass claim for information that he refuses to share and doesn’t know if is accurate.
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At this point we need full claims from people. RM and That1User should full claim immediately.
ComputerNerd also reads scummy to me right. His behavior seems off.
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@RationalMadman
LOL that is not a compromise but if town wants to ruin a steamroll then so be it.
We have zero reason to trust you lol
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@RationalMadman
I will not explain more until the full out. I want others to claim first and fast.
We are not mass claiming.
I’ll compromise tho. My character has been mentioned in this DP
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@RationalMadman
I have given more than enough information for us to progress.It is you withholding.
No you aren’t. I have zero reason to trust you. There has been zero info besides 3 characters. And we are not mass claiming unless there’s a legitimate interest.
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I actually disagree with his decision, but I see why he did it and I see the events leading up to it
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@RationalMadman
Essentially what I’m asking you to do is full claim immediately and lay out what your theory is. After that we can pursue claims. It makes the odds of a CC higher if you’re incorrect about the theme as well. Or it’s a bad theory and a townie is implicated.
Either way you shouldn’t be waiting till Saturday. Do it now so we can process the info the look for a path forward.
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@RationalMadman
How do you know there is a roleblocker?
I don’t. I was referring to the fact that you said you were likely to get roleblocked in Post 53
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@RationalMadman
It's like he wants to completely derail the theme analysis despite him having cracked apart other games by theorycrafting them prior to this.
The only theme analysis coming is from you. And you supposedly claim that you know the theme based on how your PM is set up.
Yet, you haven’t exactly told us what the theme, instead waiting till Saturday for no good reason .
You still haven’t claimed your role even thought everyone knows you’re a PR. You’re gonna be roleblocked regardless.
You hold no credibility at the moment.
On a side note, I solved that game in DP2 when certain information was set in stone.
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@RationalMadman
Which one are you?
I don’t support a mass character claim
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@RationalMadman
Don’t all martial arts require balance lol
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@RationalMadman
So let me get this straight. You want everyone else to reveal info about themselves before you full claim, even though you already have a target on your back?
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@Greyparrot
Only God knows what RM is thinking at a given time
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You can ask him yourself lol. He’s probably more of a single issue voter (COVID policies).
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@Polytheist-Witch
I have no clue what you mean by that lol. Can you rephrase or give an example?
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