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Some theist would argue that this is exactly why you will be excluded from paradise. You would agree that their claim and yours (while one may appeal to my sensibilities more) have similar levels of evidence from my perspective?

Sure, from a theist's perspective it is... but who are they to me? Why should i bow to another human? And, what's the conclusion... i believe them and go to hell? Bc that is the only option they are giving me. Which just doesn't make sense. If it turns out to be true... well, that sucks, i get hell. But believing them would do the same. 

From your perspective i also understand. You are who you are. I wouldn't dare control you just as i would hope you don't control me. If you choose to say there isn't evidence... all i can do is tell you about my life and why i feel there is evidence. It's anecdotal however, bc if it wasn't... you wouldn't be who you are... you would be like me. So, all i can do is share my experiences and discuss them, which i enjoy doing. All i hope is it makes one think, not come over to my side. The only thing my belief does is empower you to be you, and if you want... imagine how powerful you can be. That is the prime reason i choose this belief... not really for myself, the implications just happened to favor me too, but i've always wanted more people to know, if they choose, they are powerful... we need more of that in society to make it better, not simple mindless followers which the ones that achieve power feed on. I've always been a person that cares more for others than myself. If you really understand my belief... you'll notice it is tailored to give everyone what they truly hope for. That was always my end game. I feel it's superior in that regard, but is it true.. i don't know. It seems more true than a belief that plays a childish game of "play my imaginary game or else i'll be sad/mad" ... that's what children do. That just seem flawed to me, clearly... but am i right? I don't know. I hope i am... bc i don't want to go to hell obviously. But imagine if i am right... than i get to do whatever i want and you get to do whatever you want... within reason of course bc we share this reality. But also, a further implications is you get to choose whatever you want your afterlife to be... i don't get to choose it for you. You may stay exactly as you are...skeptical. But at least, i'm sure you have an imagination and can think of a paradise if i am right... i'm also saying, you can have that. None of it is my choice, it's yours and everyone else's. That is the beauty of such a platform. 

So... i think this is the one platform that you can say is wrong, but you are ultimately saying i'm right if you get what you want. And, the platform doesn't make any promises, guides, morals, etc for this life... so there really nothing there to say wrong to either. It's a win win platform that i think everyone should hope is right... but again, i'm not in control of anyone else. They'll do what they believe bc likely that is what's true for them. We can only lambaste what they say the rest of us should do... and in regards to it being right that they can... well, it just seems very man-made. But we can both be wrong... no one knows. But following some logic and reasoning, i think we can at least suspect it's wrong with reasonable conclusions.  

- More emotions...?

Sure... why not...

Ok so how do you know all the other religions (besides yours) got things wrong?

You have to distinguish what's about this reality and what's about a person's thought of paradise or the metaphysical aspect. Whatever is about this reality we can clearly see if it's right or wrong, at least by majority standards or science. If science says we are born gay and have no choice in the matter... religion is wrong. But if religion says you shouldn't kill, then they are probably right. But once it gets into sin and your going to hell... they are only talking about themselves. 

- Hence, 'limited understanding'. I can't help you there brother. 

Limited understanding lol... says the guy obsessed with ancient ape scriptures... 

Do you even have a point? Lol would do just fine instead of spending characters on multiples HA's. I know what exists I just think what you claim doesn't exist and you have resorted to not even explaining your side. 

Firstly, i like your responses. But watch out for this guy... he thinks he's better than you not only off his religion but he thinks he's some kind of intellectually superior human bc he's read a fake book 100 times. When a religion needs me to bow down to an apologist like him... i say, "meet me irl and i'll make you feel insignificant real fast." Anyways... keep going, you're asking good questions. 

Technically, there is a potential for everything.  However, if the UN says okay to this and we invade, China and Russia would be hypocritical for nuking us for invading since they invaded too (China invaded Tibet, Russia invaded Crimea).

If 1 million African soldiers have to die

How would it be any different then killing an adult enemy?

I don't think the war would be that long

Culture divides people among cultural lines.

If they fight dirty, and the UN approves of the invasion, the UN probably would give the US permission to fight dirty too.

most people aren't interested in helping out Africa.

Africa right now hates the west because the west treated the locals badly.

I do not know how you maintain that belief in the face of the everyday observation that consciousness does not survive anaesthesia, sleep or Alzheimer's. 

I was actually a little disappointed with the video, which initially made claims that secular science does in fact have more information about the nature or origin of consciousness than we might think and then proceeded to make the very same, few claims we've already heard that are weak.

Yes, i found it was a little weak too. He is only focusing on one aspect... the sensory version of consciousness. He is basically focusing on the material version. All of his test are just a majority that go along with what the test is looking for... but, he is totally ignoring the fringes. People like you and i, possibly. Gamer's that look at simulated hands all day and never thinks it's there own. He is just focused on what he believes, and seems he is only looking for people that confirm what he believes. If you watch the podcast that Keith shared... he didn't even bring up lucid dreaming and out of body experiences. Lucid dreaming at the least is a fringe that flies in the face of normal. I even brought it up to a neurologist and he didn't believe me at first... then said i couldn't have been dreaming. Being fully conscious in a dream is interesting... then there's OBE's. If he expanded out of his echo chamber he would see there are cases that fly in the face of what he's doing. 

Smollett should have been in prison for behaviour likely to cause civil unrest.

Yeah... also i didn't know he's still being a pussy bitch about it. I think he should have gotten time at this point... i'm starting to feel confident money and connections got him out of it. This is well known among lawyers. I work for a couple, and the criminal one doesn't like doing criminal anymore bc he noticed how corrupt and dangerous it can be. He tells me don't mess around with that... money always wins in the end of the day. Well, that's almost true in all cases... but most cases it's money that keeps you in it or gets you a good lawyer... but there are cases money just buys you out of trouble. 

I think Seth wanted to emphasise that what we perceive has more to do with the brain 'inventing' perceptions than one might suppose.

Let's clarify the meaning of 'guessing'.   In a coin toss i can guess head or tails - I have no reason to choose one and not the other.   We can call that a 'pure guess'.   On the other hand if you ask me to guess i the sun will rise tomorrow I guess that it will!   Call that a 'reasonned guess'

A plea deal is supposed to be a compromise. What did Smollett have to compromise on? $10,000 and two days of community service is nothing. It's absolutely nothing. He makes more than that amount per minute on Empire. She basically just let him off scot-free.

Yeah... i don't know. Did he have some pull? Was it some kind of back room thing? Who knows. However, i just read the police department has a civil case against him... let the lawsuits began. Unfortunately however, he is getting what he wanted and that does kinda stink. This world is weird... things like this regarding celebrities just aren't that shocking to me anymore. They are in the "in-crowd" you know... 

I don’t particularly feel that the person who currently has around 100 individual debates, and has repeatedly professed his mastery ofndebate to varying degrees doesn’t “have time to get the facts and correlate them with all of [their] logic in a concise enough manner for people to understand and vote on.”

so contribute nothing to the original forum post, and only come here to nag i see ;)

You never have to say jus kidding to me bc i'll never report you... never. I have reported zero people my years of being on forums. But... i am bad at understanding jokes... so saying JK, kinda helps me in that regard... if you didn't i would have replied "but he asked for an honest opinion." Something like that... 

believe and repent.

Believe and repent to your god... so i can go to hell? Why do you keep running instead of trying to understand your heaven isn't heaven? 

Then what?  What will "we" be doing? 

LMBO, that's funny because I like to meditate in complete darkness too, I'll sit in the most usual and dark area like the staircase.

Just don't scare your kids lol. But seriously, it's a good example for them to not be afraid of the dark. I found so much peace when i stopped fearing things... especially the dark. It's hilarious some people still are scared. I took a girl to the beach once and it was all dark... i'm like lets walk that way, she probably thought i was nuts... she's like naw lol. In regards to the meditation thing, something cool happens when i do it this way. That light you still have in your pupils kinda makes waves in the darkness of your eyes, going in and out. Eventually, i can control that light and turn it into any scenery i want. It's pretty cool, but i've only been able to do it 2 or 3 times. For sure 2 since one of them i did recently until people came home and the other is a spiritual experience i talk about here. Other times it just doesn't happen. I just need more time to keep trying without people distracting me. 

I always say his eyes remind me of God, not sure how that works but that is what I think when I see them.

Wow, I don't think I would have said that. Besides my mentor you're one of the few people that can catch me off guard to think from another angle because I would have never thought of it like that. Kudos to you. 

I was the Crow at least five or six times for Halloween lol. 

 

There's some saying about sheep being happy they are being fed by the farmer not knowing he will slaughter them for food, something like that, you get the idea. We've tried controls, bans and regulations for half a century now?  perhaps we should go the other way like some states have or are doing.  Vermont has very lax laws I think and yet one of the lowest in murders.  Might be worth finding out why.  make no mistake, murders and mass murders a good for those in power, fear is a great tool to use for control.

Guess that is life. 

That is life... but concentrate on music a bit. It will show you the hearts of other cultures. And btw.... there is nothing wrong with video games. But try to get out to somewhere you find beautiful that people go to and just chill, watch, and listen to music. For me it's the beach. It's a good break. Gotta get to work, i'll answer you if you reply when i get home. 

What 'feel' do you want the image to have?

What trait do you admire more between being severely appealing and severely elusive.

If you were on a desert island and ended up pitted between the option of being the alpha male/female or the cuck/loser what would you be on the food chain between the two?

Are you someone who enjoys competition or wishes it wasn't a part of life?     

Paradise most fundamentally defined is being present with the Lord and free from sin, pain, sorrow, death and other such evils. 

Sin defines its self through disobedience to the law of God. In taking pleasure in the pain, disorder, betrayal, depression and physical pleasure more than the hope, love, brotherhood/sisterhood, joy etc that others experience. 

God is able to express himself in more ways than one, if you have had out of body experiences or have had visions or miracles, those fall perfectly in the perimeters of scripture.   If God gives you the ability to prophecy and it comes to past then i cannot fault you for being used by God.  However, a prophecy must always come to past exactly as it is said.   And there have been prophets who did prophecy, but turned away from the faith. The gifts of God are without repentance after all. 

The chap who believes he is Napoleon has the exact same reasons you have for your beliefs.

I saw you indirectly called me Napoleon in another thread. I don't get it. The trope of Napoleon usually means two separate things that i'm aware. Neither of which make sense in the way you're using it. What does the "chap who believes he is Napoleon" mean?  

They have their head in the sand grasping as straws, gun control aka people control is slipping through their fingers like sand.

I don't know man... i feel something big can go down. The problem is, the majority of people are easily influenced and malleable. That has to be the case even evolution wise or else who would build society. The problem in the present however is, now they can be controlled by outside minds as well. It isn't that they are only the working force anymore... now they are also the ones to promulgate the ideas of certain people and groups too. I really don't know how that's going to play out... but, i fear it a little bc i think most people that are in front of the camera, politicians, etc.. being the manipulators... have some kind of narcissism or even psycho type tendencies. Maybe not all, but i feel like it's most... it's just the nature of what they do... they love their own voice, they see themselves on the T.V., they get worshiped in public, they get money... a lot of reasonable normal people would find that exhausting and not have the drive to get it. So, my hypothesis is that nutcases are running our country, influencing the large portion of the malleable population... but i'm left with some open questions... for what? And, what end game? And even if there is no end game... what is the consequence of letting these type of people influence? Well... look at our country and world today. Does it look like it's being run by reasonable people? I don't think so... i'm scared what the end result will be. Maybe i'm being too pessimistic. I hope so.