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@21Pilots
Is it alright if I add you to our server?
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@21Pilots
I agree with you on those choices too.Ā
2 years ago, I actually made a suggestion proposal for people who would make great mods in the forums. Savant was one of them, I reached out to Lemming but he declined so I didn't add his name to the list.Ā
How would you describe your moderating style?
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@21Pilots
I forgot to ask. What are your ideal qualities for a mod, if you made your own criteria?Ā
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@IlDiavolo
Most successful self-sabotage ever.Ā
Imagine being so proud to abuse your newfound power by persecuting innocent people and plotting a rebellion only to lose it.
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@Swagnarok
Alliances form and crash over differences all the time.
The mockery was the failed infiltration attempt to take the throne by overthrowing the hierarchy.
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@Swagnarok
We should be endorsing tyranny & authoritarianism under the guise of being a pseudo-christian.
Nothing screams site ideals like a Savior Complex, zealotry, and religious extremism.
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Gnostic Christianity,Ā a term used to describe a diverse set of religious movements, centers around the belief in "gnosis," or special esoteric knowledge, as essential for salvation.Ā Gnostic Christians often view the material world as corrupt or evil, contrasted with the spiritual realm, and believe that Jesus Christ came to earth to teach divine knowledge, not to die and redeem humanity.Ā
Does it, in your opinion, fall into the category of absurdist thinking or does it have any practicality?Ā
My current understanding is that most modern christians would see it as so distinct, that it could be declared a heresy. Baptists probably wouldn't see it as a separate segment or denomination like catholicism or nazarene, but an unnatural corruption and abomination of The Holy Bible.
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@Castin
Destiny was criticizing people like H3H3 and Hasan Piker for not remaining true to their beliefs.
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@Savant
Yes. That actually makes a lot of sense and puts things into perspective.Ā
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@WyIted
you will be happy to know that the biggest promoters of democracy are really just fascists in sheeps clothes,Ā
I have noticed this too.Ā
A lot of the role models in the leftist/democrat community are pseudo-liberals or democrats. Grifters who donāt care for their beliefs, and donāt actually care about politicsĀ
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This is becoming increasingly common, with ex-leftists joining and identifying as right-wing. Destiny claims it is because the right plays the game politically while the left doesnāt.Ā
The āplaying politicsā tactic is coalition-building. He explains that the right have a lower standard for entry, while the left are quick to socially exile or excommunicate someone whose values fall short.Ā
Which is why their community may not recognize a former right-wing as one of their own because they are trying to maintain a certain level of purity. (This is what he means, even if he says he hates the word āpurity.)
(Destiny is also a bad person that doesnāt deserve a platform, but thatās a different subject.)
But would you agree that Destinyās take on this is accurate or inaccurate?Ā
(Canāt find the video by googling the title, but it popped up the other day)Ā
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@fauxlaw
Fauxlaw.
You are intelligent in many ways, and I was happy when I learned you wanted to work with us. David asked me if I was okay with you participating and I approved it.Ā
It is a pleasure to have you on our Dev Team.Ā
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@LucyStarfire
Hello Best.Korea.
How is the cat empire going?Ā
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Yes, OP. You are correct.
This is actually a really excellent point.
It also ties back into how educators used to omit so much detail about Christopher ColumbusĀ
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What is the victim card?You are abusing me constantly across many threads like a freak stalker or something.
You tagged me here first, and I responded.Ā
And you have a habit of following me into dms and spamming me, bitching about other people. Then youāre constantly tagging me in forums when youāre getting bullied, begging me to rescue you from FishChaser or Wylted.Ā
If you canāt handle that same energy, then keep it to yourself
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Do you genuinely not see what a disgusting abuser you are? Like do you type all that stuff and feel good about yourself?This is the same abusive stuff you said before anyway, I already knew you were like this.
Just stop playing the victim. You played this card many times already and it's just too predictable at this point.Ā
I tried being civil, but it was clearly one-sided.
You didn't have to badmouth me, you did that all on your own.
You didn't have to try to manipulate the mods and weaponize them as pawns in your stupid little game. You did that all on your own.Ā
AndĀ Game Over.
So this will suffice for now.
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All you are in an insecure man trying so hard at degrading someone relentlesly after overly glorifying them.
No, I'm someone who gave you the benefit of the doubt after you apologized and begged for my forgiveness.
Now I'm seeing you much more clearly.:Ā Weak, irrelevant, and useless.Ā
You did do a great job at convincing me with this pseudo-religious schtick. But you yourself probably even realize that first impression was too good to be true.Ā
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Fauxlaw would promote me in aĀ heartbeat I am pretty sure we have a similar vision. He DMd me genuinely happy I was in charge.
He would come to his senses once he realized you do not have the capacity to enact change on a small or large scale.
Your failures as a trial mod demonstrate that people do not respect you or take you seriously.Ā
You were chosen because you were the only available person left that actually cared, not because you're qualified or have good ideas.Ā
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He also had every chance to explain why I am wrong. He cannot. It was an accurate thread constructively criticising his leadership style.
You criticize whiteflame for his passivity and being disinvolved.Ā
Yet it stands that the very God you worship is exactly the same way.
How much genocide, violence, and atrocities are committed everyday under his watch where he does nothing?
And you, just like The Devil, plotted a similar failed rebellion. It is all parabolic in a way.Ā
You are a self-contradicting hypocrite with double standards.Ā
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@21Pilots
Was David, WhiteFlame, and Barney (and other moderators) finally decision fair? Ethical? For the best?ĀProvide your answer with reasons below.ĀModerators can also debateĀ
It was more than justified.Ā
I encouraged whiteflame to be proactive about this and then I convinced the other mods to demod Adaptable when I spoke to them.Ā
They made the right call.Ā
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The ideal mod is both a mediator and a leader.Ā
Whiteflame would be it, if he were stricter.Ā
David might be it. Fauxlaw would make an excellent moderator.Ā
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@Sidewalker
You have a valid point.Ā
I am the only one that is unfazed by Adaptable's promotion to moderator.
I am the only one that is unfazed by Adaptable's promotion to moderator.
A lot of people are panicking, understandably, but I already know something that most people here probably don't know.
His attempts to establish any lasting changes will be unsuccessful, and so too will his reign. All of it will fall apart or self-destruct. This is a bet I would stake all my current Elo on.
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Big talk was yours from day 1 of me being promoted.You acted as if you were suddenly relevant here š
Relevance on a dying website is more important to you.Ā
You are so forgettably insignificant that you could leave the site for another year and your name doesnāt get mentioned once.Ā
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Furthermore, it tells me who actually has my back on the mod team.The results proved Barney wins that award. The problem is David has the stronger moral compass. David would and did push a ban on me even when he had no social motive to here. It was bad but as well as his Wylted ban proves to me he is immune to peer pressure and sheepthink enough to be the ideal leader for now.
Wrong on both counts.Ā
If my intel is correct, you already lost Barneyās support. He regrets making you a mod.Ā
If Vader were still here, and David hadnāt returned. You would be back where you belong.Ā
Square one, rock bottom.Ā
David is a little harder to convince and the only reason you havenāt been demoted.Ā
But youāre hanging on by a loose thread, so Iād stop all this big talk if I were you.Ā
Nearly everyone, including your closest allies, are against you.Ā
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@Sidewalker
This promotion is a social experiment of what happens when you give power to unchecked ambition and pride.Ā
Itās patheticĀ
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Yes you should already be banned.
Sidewalker was active, while you were gone for a year.Ā
Fall back in line.Ā
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The way you continuously degrade and abuse me is part of the culture Whiteflame's negligence has enabled to grow here.
There is no advantage for whiteflame in defending you, as you would take advantage of his generosity by stabbing him in the back anyway.Ā
What's next, another failed rebellion?
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What are you even talking about?Making Adaptable a moderator was Barney's idea, and it was a good one.You should be grateful that this long-standing contributor of the community has been promoted.ĀThis site reeks of not being close to The Holy Spirit, and it shows in your complaints.
This first one was me trolling ADreamOfLiberty by rubbing salt in the wound, and when I still had respect for you.
And I reference The Holy Spirit, but you already know that I'm atheist.
If God exists, I see this as a sign that he is testing you. Remember, stay committed to your true mission and do not yield for anyone.Even Jesus had to deal with doubters and naysayers. You were Chosen because God knows youāre the guy for this.
I was trying to be encouraging with a motivational speech.Ā
You were outnumbered and getting dogpiled in the forum interactions. So I spoke up on your behalf.
It was always in my nature to root for The Underdog. But that's all you'll ever be.
It was always in my nature to root for The Underdog. But that's all you'll ever be.
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I will tell you that I am happy I kept watch. I am happy I returned. This is the exact replacement style I must exist here to prevent. This is straight up evil.
You are too weak to fight evil or accomplish anything on your own.Ā
As if you didn't practically beg me and everyone else to fight your battles and come to your rescue like some helpless damsel in distress rather than The Savior in your own isolated fantasy-land.
You are a pawn, not a chess player.
Stay in your lane, Trial Mod.Ā
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@Mharman
Thatās the sign of someone following the devil, but pretending to follow God.Ā
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In time I trust you to realise we are thinking alike. I like that you'd be disloyal to me for morally correct reasons.That is exactly what I am doing with Whiteflame, who betrayed me first as others abused me.
You badmouthed me first when I stood by you. Not the other way around. Actions like that do not get rewarded.
But you got angry about Savant making a joke about you, so you ran from the server and threatened him with divine retribution.Ā
You demand and expect loyalty, but donāt ever seem to give any in return.Ā
It was through whiteflameās generosity that you are even a moderator and then you suggest a revolt.Ā
You are useless and pathetic.Ā
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That is what snakes say though.Real friendship is based on honesty and love of virtue regardless of the flaws.Real friends don't pretend to be yes men. They don't pretend to be anything. That's why disagreement with real friends isn't back stabbing and they don't make a spectacle of it. You can see the difference a thousand miles away and you don't need to pretend to each other or to anyone else that you agree when you don't.
Youāre reading too much into this.Ā
I have been crystal clear that me and him were never āfriends,ā I have the receipts that I keep saying this.Ā
Being civil does not mean I ever addressed him as friend. Our association was casual, even if I tried to be encouraging or supportive.Ā
I tried to get FishChaser to leave him alone and stood by him while he was trolled or targeted by the rest of the site.Ā
All of these were courtesies and gestures of good will, not requirements.Ā
Some things we agree upon, some we donāt.Ā
Iāve always beenĀ crystal clear about our differences.Ā
Itās as simple as he had my respect, and now he doesnāt.Ā
Nothing more, nothing less.Ā
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Lowly henchman, dog on a leash blablablabla waaa aaa waaaa
Sounds accurate.
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The injustices and corruption of this website have grown unbearable.
As all of you are aware of my recent promotion to lowly henchman. You all have forced my hand in the matter, and justice is coming to all. Not just you.
I have now come up with the absurdly ridiculous plan of usurping whiteflame and replacing him with myself as the head of this website. We will need to get Mike's approval to get this going.Ā
Savant since you have decided to openly ridicule me and my modship I quit this team. I will work with david if he is open to DM, he seems to set chat here so we cannot DM. I already am in a chat with him for not with other mods.
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You can say whatever you want, I am happy the real you is showing. Honesty is needed very badly here.
Don't worry, I'll show you mercy.
I'm done for now.
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No you didn't. You respected my position, not me. You tried to maintain the lie over DMs. You even posted this publicly to fake respect for me.
I don't respect anything about being a servant on a leash.
More of a follower, less of a leader.Ā
The exact way you talk to me right now would be banned onnthe site model of justice that you said you wanted to ADOL.You are a hypocrite and a sycophant.
And you are an underling that forgot your place.
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I did support you.Ā
You lost that respect.Ā
Now run off and go play fetch.
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@AdaptableRatman
Wylted wishes he was like this, given his recent image choice it is obvious. I actually am closer to it:
More like a power-hungry underling.
Don't put yourself in the shoes of Leonidas, you're clearly the messenger in this scenario.Ā
This appears to be your current situation.:
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@whiteflame
@AdaptableRatman
I am against Wylted because you mentioned his predatory behavior towards a minor, Shila for her calls of violence towards jews, IWRA because he was constantly talking down to people and provoking, ADreamOfLiberty because he endorses bestiality, and oromagi for being a tyrant.
The reasons I am friends with, and defend whiteflame are because he acts when the situation requires him to, but he acts with neutrality and objectivity. Objectivity and neutrality are not common in moderators, most of them are too emotionally involved to enforce the rules indiscriminately.
An ideal mod, Adaptable, is someone who can be both a leader and a mediator. Whiteflame's moderation style is too passive, no doubt. If he was stricter, then he would be the ideal mod.
If your attempts at usurping whiteflame are successful, it's because of weak leadership. Which goes back to my criticism of him being too passive and not being firm enough.
I believe if it were up to Adaptable, his version of the website would be to remove whiteflame from his position as head-mod. Because Adaptable likely sees whiteflame as too passive and incompetent of a mod to lead this platform. (I could be misquoting. Correct me if I'm wrong.)
I predicted you would try something like a coup.
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@AdaptableRatman
There is no manipulation from me.SL likely is manipulative as he has always been sycophantic to mods here.
You're painting me as a snake.Ā
But I had your back. Can you say the same for anyone else here?Ā
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I admit this is a funny and hilarious piece of comedy, but very misguided and misleading
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@whiteflame
In a hypothetical debate, what arguments would you make for choosing judaism over christianity?Ā
The only one I can think of are The Messianic Prophecies, but Iām certain there have to be a lot more.Ā
What factors would you include?
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@Savant
I was cracking up when ADreamOfLiberty pointed out that me and Adaptable were behaving like clowns, and he said that you were pretending not to notice.Ā
And then you made this post parodying Adaptable. (This is not a criticism of Adaptable, I'm fine with his actions as moderator. I'm just pointing this out to illustrate the irony of what Dream said versus what is happening here.)
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@ADreamOfLiberty
If you in anyway consented to giving power to ratman I question your credulity. You can't claim to be a fireman and then say nothing when an arsonist is hired. "Don't worry, I won't let him burn anything down" rings hollow.
What are you even talking about?
Making Adaptable a moderator was Barney's idea, and it was a good one.
You should be grateful that this long-standing contributor of the community has been promoted.Ā
This site reeks of not being close to The Holy Spirit, and it shows in your complaints.
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@Sidewalker
I feel OP is slightly wrong here.
We should despise evil people like Hitler and the nazis, but usually anyone that begins statements like the choice of words Remy is using, are being anti-semitic.
The schema applies here regardless, even if Remy's case is the exception.Ā
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@ADreamOfLiberty
From the moment I signed up to DDO.org I had already decided that if it came down to shutting up about the truth as I saw it or getting banned, I would speak truth and get banned.
There is no truth here. Only indoctrination from your whining and rambling.
You are NOT the victim.Ā
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@ADreamOfLiberty
So your problem is that the mods are enforcing the rules?
What is your complaint here?
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@ADreamOfLiberty
Unless somebody bans me to shut me up, I will follow this rabbit all the way down the hole. We will see if there is a coherent story at the bottom.Right now all I see is a bunch of excuses that are not meshing very well.
We have decided thatĀ you are not fit to decide or declare anything.
Nobody. Not even whiteflame or David oweĀ you an explanation for the ban of Shila.
We have all agreed that you forfeited that privilege a long, long time ago.
So go climb on your moral high horse and ride off into the sunset already.
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