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I am the avoider. If I choose somebody and that person also targets me nothing they do works including the NK. So it can buy us extra dps, but probably not now. The ability is also unlimited so if one scum remains and I know who they are I can almost become invincible to NKS if I use the role right
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There’s a lot I have to consider for when I get home
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I also do not have a justification now that I look again so if other town members are also lacking justification than mharman looks suspicious for that but it's hard to think savant would intertwine with him if they are both scum
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@WyIted
I am the avoider. If I choose somebody and that person also targets me nothing they do works including the NK. So it can buy us extra dps, but probably not now. The ability is also unlimited so if one scum remains and I know who they are I can almost become invincible to NKS if I use the role right
Justification?

Also this is 100% confirmable. I'm town locking WyIted.
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@WyIted
I am the avoider. If I choose somebody and that person also targets me nothing they do works including the NK. So it can buy us extra dps, but probably not now. The ability is also unlimited so if one scum remains and I know who they are I can almost become invincible to NKS if I use the role right
Paraphrase your PM
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@WyIted
I also do not have a justification now that I look again so if other town members are also lacking justification than mharman looks suspicious for that but it's hard to think savant would intertwine with him if they are both scum
We should use your role to confirm you. Someone can volunteer to test using their role on you.
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@Mharman
Fine. My character is Lactoballus and justification for doctor is the fact that Lactoballus is a great probiotic microbe that helps protect against food borne illnesses.

That’s why when I did my research, I noted that Savant’s character has an antagonistic relationship with mine.

Starting to wonder about Wylted’s strongman theory + buddying from Savant.
Great, you’re basically town
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Lactobacillus*

Correct spelling if anyone needs to google it
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1. Savant - Gram Negative - Salmonella - Doctor Enabler
2. Banana - Gram Positive
3. Casey_Risk - Gram Negative
4. Lunatic - Gram Positive
5. Earth - Gram Positive
6. Mharman - Gram Positive - Lactobacillus - Doctor
7. ILikePie5 - Gram Negative
8. Mikal
9. WyIted - Atypical - Mycobacterium - Avoider

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Justification?

Also this is 100% confirmable. I'm town locking WyIted.
Why can’t this be a scum role?
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Paraphrase your PM
It's a bunch of random facts about whatever my thing is and then an explanation of how my role works but sure I can paraphrase I guess but it's stupid to ask and there is zero utility in it. 
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@WyIted
It's a bunch of random facts about whatever my thing is and then an explanation of how my role works but sure I can paraphrase I guess but it's stupid to ask and there is zero utility in it. 
Just do it
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I can't paraphrase this shit. It's too dense. Something about strong walls and then me causing other viruses or whatever and then something about a waxy wall or something and then my role and how it works.zero justification
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Why can’t this be a scum role?
It just seems like a town role, especially since doctor (another defensive role) is pretty weakened by my role in this case. Also if scum tried to block an investigator from investigating them, it would be suspicious so the role isn't really useful to them. They have to use it on power roles who they can justify seeing as suspicious, which just doesn't work balance-wise.
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@WyIted
I can't paraphrase this shit. It's too dense. Something about strong walls and then me causing other viruses or whatever and then something about a waxy wall or something and then my role and how it works.zero justification
Just do it
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@Savant
It just seems like a town role, especially since doctor (another defensive role) is pretty weakened by my role in this case. Also if scum tried to block an investigator from investigating them, it would be suspicious so the role isn't really useful to them. They have to use it on power roles who they can justify seeing as suspicious, which just doesn't work balance-wise.
I just don’t buy that there are 2 kill preventing roles even if one is weakened. I’ll move on if Wylted’s justification is sufficient. I also despise your character claim. 
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Do you think Savant is scum or town?
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Have not liked his behavior, need to sort out the incentives of his claim. Gives me pause but maybe for reasons that aren’t corrwct
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Just do it
That was me paraphrasing. I don't understand the words it's like I am reading Spanish. When I get in front of a PC I will give it a try
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Reads List 4.0
I’m assuming a 7v2 setup. Each player is assigned an estimated probability of being town based on how towny or scummy they are. The average probability of being town is 75%, since there are 6 town players left besides me and 2 scum players left.

Mharman
  • Town Lock (100%)
  • Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, JFdp3
  • Playing as Scum: CoDdp1, CoDdp2, CoDdp3
  • #4, #5 - TL - I think that scum would be under more pressure for their first post and keep it simple, not instantly make a reference to religious literature before voting someone without a good excuse.
  • #7 - TL - I don’t think scum would focus on looking into player activity like this, plus switching the vote very confidently.
  • #12 - Slight SL - I do think making a joke like this can be a way of “breaking the tension” as scum when posting a lot to avoid being scum read, but this is a very slight indicator.
  • #14 - Slight SL - I think it benefits scum here to put pressure on another player like this, especially since Mharman has already voted and arguably needs to justify it.
  • #45, #46, #50, #57 - SL - A bit surface level, could be faking genuine conversation. In this case jumping topics isn’t towny since it doesn’t show a lot of thought into scum hunting.
  • #51, #53 - TL - High effort here is towny, especially jumping from another subject, and I think Mharman’s reads were a bit less detailed as town.
  • #93, #94 - TL - I think the read on me is fair if Mharman thought I didn’t have any reads written yet (and I did promise them before going back and realizing my pg 3 reads were inaccurate last game).
  • #104, #106 - TL - Explanations for these actions seem genuine
  • #129 - Slight SL - Passing the buck to try to get other people to accuse someone is sometimes a scum move, but then this could also be genuine town. I think this is only slightly more likely to come from scum.
  • #208 - SL - I tend to see reaction tests come from scum as a lazy way to seem like they are scum hunting.
  • #210 - SL - I think town Mharman would put in more effort than just town reading someone for not scum reading him.
  • #220, #221, #225, #226 - SL - Very surface-level analysis that doesn’t reference much to justify it.
  • #256 - SL - More reads that seem more opportunistic and vague than useful.
  • #325 - TOWN LOCK - Only doc claim, and my role confirms the existence of a doctor.
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  • Town (91.4%)
  • Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, CoDdp1
  • Playing as Scum: Castledp1, GSdp1
  • #24, #30 - TL - Wylted draws attention to himself here, which would be a risk as scum, and these thoughts read genuine overall. There’s also a bit of nuance jumping from one subject to another, which I think scum would tend to avoid.
  • #31, #33 - TL - Changing his mind without being asked also seems genuine here. It could be a scum play but doesn’t seem as likely.
  • #43 - Slight TL - Insulting a player like this is a pretty big risk for scum to take.
  • #63 - Slight TL - I think not reading the original post is a town tell.
  • #142, #143 - SL - Opportunistic accusations with no details explaining them, could be a low-effort scum play.
  • #145 - TL - Different but in a towny way, I like this amount of nuance and it makes the comment seem more genuine.
  • #148, #150 - TL - These explanations don’t seem forced.
  • #164 - SL - A bit opportunistic to start on this when he’s just been accused by Pie. Feels a bit like an intentional distraction.
  • #195 - TL - I don’t see WyIted putting this much effort into a read if he doesn’t actually believe it.
  • #195 - Slight SL - WyIted was in this game and knew it was the last one Mharman played as town, he should have spotted Mharman saying “here” first thing that game.
  • #230, #231 - TL - A good deal of effort than isn’t surface-level.
  • #238, #239, #240 - TL - If WyIted were just scum here, I don’t see him caring enough to explain his actions to this extent.
  • #328, #335 - SL - I don’t think town WyIted would be crazy enough to bet everything on Mharman and I being a team and making a bold play like this so early in the game.
  • #360 - SL - Switching accusations like this a bit opportunistically after Mharman had a solid claim very confidently with little basis.
  • #423 - Strong Town - Role is confirmable, and it sounds like a town aligned role.
iamanabanana
  • Scum Lean (72.5%)
  • Playing as Town: Governorsdp1, Governorsdp2, Governorsdp3
  • Playing as Scum: GSdp1, GSdp2, GSdp3
  • #113 - TL - I like that this post seems to have more thought put into it than banana’s first post last game, and I think scum would be less inclined to town read other players.
  • #287 - TL - I think RM would be more worried about the risk for giving a full claim if his role was town.
Lunatic
  • Town Lean (71.4%)
  • Playing as Town: Castledp1, JFdp1, JFdp2
  • Playing as Scum: Chessdp1, Chessdp2, Chessdp3
  • #38, #47, #49 - TL - This comment indicated that Luna paid a good deal of attention to the posts he responded to, which I think is generally pro-town. Scum can joke around too, but they might be more likely to skim, especially if Wyled’s comment doesn’t look particularly opportunistic. Plus jumping around topics indicates a more natural and genuine train of thought.
  • #40 - TL - Saying this almost as an afterthought indicates it’s probably not a strategic move.
  • #151 - Slight SL - Could be opportunistic to defend a player for town cred without actually defending them, I’d expect more scum or town reading from Luna as town.
  • #212, #214, #215, #216, #218 - TL - This detailed level of analysis is towny since none of it seems opportunistic.
  • #232, #236 - TL - These town reads don’t seem opportunistic.
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  • Town Lean (68.2%)
  • Playing as Town: SKdp1, SKdp2, SKdp3
  • Playing as Scum: Gunplaydp1, Gunplaydp2, Gunplaydp3
  • #34 - SL - I think a town member would be slightly more likely to avoid trusting AI, but a scum member might want to give themselves plausible deniability for getting it wrong, or just not be super concerned with accuracy since they can decide on a claim later. Or scum might not even use AI but say they did hoping it sounds genuine.
  • #71, #79 - Slight TL - Given that Casey mentioned the signups page and nothing about WF’s first post, I think this indicates they haven’t paid too much attention to which roles are available for fake claims.
  • #141 - TL - Reads seem detailed and genuine, if this is scum there’s a lot of effort being put in to seem towny, more than I’d expect.
  • #209 - TL - A good amount of effort is put into analyzing WyIted, I don’t think scum would devote this much time to such a task.
  • #260 - TL - Defending me and WyIted doesn’t seem opportunistic, and it would be easy for Casey to try to plant seeds of suspicion.
  • #359 - NAI - Explained by a later post.
  • #382 - TL - As much as I hate the vote on me, I think the logic here is coming from town Casey.
  • #387, #389 - TL - Again, towny attention to detail.
  • #392 - TL - Unvote seems very genuine and there’s no opportunistic reason for it.
ILikePie5
  • Scum Lean (63.8%)
  • Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, TRdp1
  • Playing as Scum: TVdp1, TVdp2
  • #60 - TL - This attempt at identifying a theme split seems genuine enough and not really aimed at getting town cred. Indicates a good deal of effort into thinking through possible mechanics.
  • #117 - Slight TL - Not a huge risk, but generally in line with what I think helps the town rn.
  • #133, #140 - SL - Random accusation and low-effort reaction test, plus early town block with little justification or apparent effort behind them. Could be lazily faking his meta.
  • #147 - Slight SL - While I kind of see where Pie’s coming from, this is a big leap to make from one post. Looking through old games, Pie tends to jump onto lynches opportunistically and make demands of players more rashly as scum.
  • #243, #244, #245, #249 - TL - Pie is more thoughtful than usual and less aggressive than he could be, which I think is a town tell.
  • #254, #255 - TL - I like that Pie is moving things forward in a pro-town way, and this doesn’t particularly benefit him if he’s scum.
  • #378 - TL - I think this is townie for Pie to admit and a pro-town concern.
  • #403, #410 - TL - Pie’s pushiness has decent reasoning behind it, so I town read him for it.
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  • Scum Lean (62.1%)
  • Playing as Town: CoDdp1, CoDdp2, CoDdp3
  • Playing as Scum: RRV2dp1, RRV2dp2, RRV2dp3
  • #23 - TL - Being slightly hostile like this right out the gate comes off as genuine, since it has little strategic advantage.
  • #58 - TL - I agree with this, and there’s not a super strategic reason for Earth to defend Pie here as scum, especially since he could just post less which is his meta.
  • #70 - SL - Post indicates that Earth has paid close attention to what can be in the game. I think that’s slightly more likely from scum, especially since Earth doesn’t tend to be a super active player.
  • #137 - Slight SL - Earth isn’t actually giving anything up here, and I don’t see another response he could give that didn’t raise obvious suspicion. The fact that he qualifies it with “moving the game along” might be an opportunistic attempt to gain town cred.
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VTL Earth for full claim.
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Ignore the scum lean/town lean stuff, I forgot to update it. Everyone except WyIted and Mharman are scum leans.
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I shouldn't have claimed. The last thing I need is to be town read and die early FML
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Full claim. You are my top scum read rn.
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Unvote 
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Can you point me to where you see this?
#271. Though in retrospect, I realize that Savant was probably pushing Mharman mainly due to him having the lowest percentage according to Savant's code. I also somehow missed that Savant had already claimed Enabler by that point (probably because it came right before AR suddenly appeared to cause more dumb drama). The post itself is still sus, though. It's like he knew Mharman was the doctor somehow.
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I have thoughts on Wylted's claim, but I'll have to share them later, probably during my next break. I'm super busy today. 
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Are you referring to this post? Just because I acknowledged the possibility of Mharman's claim proving his innocence and then he did doesn't make me scum. If it was all scripted and we were partners, what would be the point of me saying that? Wouldn't I just tell Mharman what to do in the scum chat?
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Votes:

Earth (1/5): Savant
Savant (1/5): WyIted

I’m sure some of you have heard of prions, probably in the context of Bovine Spongiform Encephalitis or Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease. You usually get them from ingesting infected tissue, so brain matter (cannibalism is associated with one called Kuru in New Guinea). CJD is a pickle, though. We don’t know how it spreads in most instances. There seems to be some genetic propensity for it, but it occurs sporadically as well, so often with no known cause. They still ask about it every time you give blood, though.
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@Savant
Do you really think we should be getting 4 claims DP1?