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Do we actually have two women in a DART Mafia game? Is that a first? probably. Damn we really need more women on this site.
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TOWN
1. oromagi
3. skittlez09 VPN ROLEBLOCKER
11. MisterChris
6. Intelligence_06
9. ILikePie5
2. Speedrace
8. Lunatic
4. SupaDudz
AWoL
5. BearMan
7. Danielle
10. That1User
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@K_Michael
I was looking at the leaderboard and the different sorting methods. I noticed that RationalMadman by far has the most wins, over twice as much as Oromagi, who is second in this category, but he is also 2nd place for number of losses, with only Type1, a notorious troll in the history of DArt, having more losses. So while Oromagi is 1st in points, and RationalMadman 9th, it seems like the best strategy to get a lot of wins is to simply engage in tons of debates, rather than carefully picking a few debates.
RationalMadman is like 20% of what happens on this site. The guy is amazing.
I think you're right about strategy, the ratings systems rewards volume and the cool thing about DART is that its young and has a very accessible path to getting on that TOP 30 front page of the leaderboard and Ragnar mails you the red and gold certificate.
I'd really like to see the whole front board with all active debaters instead of bans and inactives floating on the top like dead porpoises at the beach. I think that's very do-able with the recent marked increase in debate quantity and debate quality.
Look at Intel! crashing Olympus. I think I'm fucking doomed.
(just kidding about certificates. there are no certificates. )
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@Lunatic
@Vader
-->@SupaDudzYou gonna be more active this game?
yeh, man. my town was so checked out last game. felt like kicking bodies across the ice.
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@ILikePie5
-->@oromagiI hate coding
that's only because you've never had a drop of alcohol before.
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#!/bin/sh
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echo "im32" >> /var/adm/toogoodwonbad
echo "ROLECLAIM"
cat 3.14159265359 >> /usr/bin/oromagi/enlargened
PID=`ps -ef | grep scum 'awk {print $2}'`
if [[ -z "$PID" ]] then
Kill -9 PID
fi
echo ${bold}"VTL Supadudz"
done
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@drafterman
I'm going to make a post to set the record straight.Lunatic asked a question in the mod chat about how blocking works. He got his answer. He then followed it up with a snide remark about how I'm giving him the silent treatment.This is unequivocally a statement about the game (since it could not possibly be referring to anything else) made outside the game, and I wanted Speed to respond to it. I did not demand Lunatic be punished or even warned, I explicitly said a reminder would be fine.In response, Speed created an arbitrary game rule targeting me. And that is ultimately why I left the game. Regardless of any issue I may or may not have with Lunatic, I was handling it. But when the mod is going to invent spite rules, it's time to bow out, so I did.
I agree that new rules mid-game is problematic. Lunatic should have either been ejected for breaking the rules or retained after warning. I guess the real question is what's the rule on blocking going forward? I find it very hard to play vs. GP and RM since they both have me on permanent block, apparently. I do think that setting up a block mid-game is an out of game mechanic with the power to influence the game on par with talking shit in the mod chat and we should probably just generally agree not to do that. I wish I had the influence to suggest that GP and RM unblock me for a games but they don't need any further discouragement from participation.
Speaking of participation, are you going to keep playing or are you gone again?
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for a second there I thought it said Dark Fantasy Football - Week 3. nvm
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@Lunatic
bluffing. I was confirmed town at that point so any gambit that might set SCUM off their game seemed warranted.
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@Speedrace
@oromagiI regret the no breadcrumbing rule. It would have been much harder to sell me as SCUM if I had claimed supergirl/BP on the first page of the game.That's why I didn't allow it lolI wonder why drafter was permitted his?Didn't occur to me that this was breadcrumbing
Well, from my perspective it feels like "Oh, btw I know the game has already started but oromagi is not allowed to play in his style....everybody else is fine but oromagi has to find some other way to play."
It feels like folks don't want me to play anymore and are trying to find a way to gently discourage me.
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@Lunatic
-->@oromagiI wonder why drafter was permitted his?Maybe because he changed his profile picture to a character that isn't his real character.
so fake breadcrumbing doesn't count as breadcrumbing?
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@Lunatic
You were actually really fvcking good that game. If you were just a little more forceful selling your reads I think you could have hurt us lol
I regret the no breadcrumbing rule. It would have been much harder to sell me as SCUM if I had claimed supergirl/BP on the first page of the game.
I wonder why drafter was permitted his?
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@skittlez09
skittlez is also the only one who didnt vtl me. I think we have to assume both scum were lynching.
skittlez, report what you did last night and why
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@MisterChris
This adds up. My attempted visit was blocked by someone
what did it say?
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@Lunatic
--> @oromagiWere you able to use your role the same night you got it?
yes but I report last. everybody else must declare first.
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I haven't seen a PM yet but apparently I am TheThinker WATCHER
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Well, as drafter advised last endgame, you don't convince TOWN by arguing with SCUM.
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So you are basically publiclly guessing at ragnars role here.
I said at the beginning of this DP that I don't think TOWN wins with another mislynch so let's all claim asap and have been trying to drag people out of their closets since. I went straight for drafter's fake claim and have moved suspicion to whoever was least forthcoming. That I am publicly guessing your & Ragnar's role is no surprise to TOWN.
If LOVERS are town, then anybody who's preaching "hey we have bags of time, let me keep my secrets" is anti-town. Unlike SCUM, I can't tell if LOVERs are TOWN so I want full claims from everybody as if we are close to ENDGAME because we probably are.
When you read the Arrowverse wiki, many characters identify as vigilantes the word just keeps popping up and given role madness and BP and maybe even a DOC, a VIG seems very likely. Probably a 1xVIG since I am a 1X BP.
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There is no way to test or prove you are a BP.
There would be if there was a VIG, which I kind of think there is.
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@oromagiActually I will cede on the point about bulletproofs being town. I went through the archives and found 4 games you were in where there were bulletproof townies. I was not in any of them. Arthopoda, pokemon, celebrity, and pizza mafia all had town bulletproof.
wow you can search these faster than I can. Can you produce a single example of a SCUM BP?
Regardless, I am not convinced you are town here based on the motivations with the lover fos still.
You have expressed just as much suspicion re: LOVERs claim as I. They claimed too early and then both went dark. The difference is that I am town and am not looking for reasons to mislynch.
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Why would you have a SCUM BP in any game unless TOWN had a NK?
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it's rare in general to see town BP's
that's nuts. I have been a BP 3 or 4 games and played games with BPs in them maybe 20-30 times and I've never once seen a scum BP. The only kind of game with a SCUM BP would be one with a town VIG and those are far rarer than BPs.
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or because town is too lazy and disinterested to pressure you if you are scum
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@Barney
@oromagiWhy are you about to be hammered? Any scum slips, or just random?
because you and TUF won't give town information if you are town or because town is too lazy and disinterested if you are scum. If I could tell which I would advise but I can't.
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Well, I don't think there's much else I could've done to try to save this town. good luck.
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@Intelligence_06
Among us is basically mafia, except there are only vanillas and goons.
did you read that the developers were working on an AMOUNG US 2 upgrade but it the last few weeks the game has suddenly gotten so popular that they have halted a new game and redirected all resources to supporting the existing game. The game has been around a while but hit exponential growth in popularity all of a sudden.
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@Intelligence_06
Well if Scum targeted Supa and SirA protected Supa then neither of us dies.
Yes. or if SCUM targeted me (perhaps I flatter myself to think X-ray vision fooled anybody).
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@Intelligence_06
-->@oromagiAccording to somewhat-town SirA, He protected us from dying in the night.
He could only protect one of you and we have no reason to assume DOC saved a NK or did not save a NK, do we?
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we shouldn't discount godfather or lawyer
agreed. I actually had a dream last night that Ragnar was TP, woke up, thought about it brushing my teeth and went naw.
Other possibility is that we are all dumb and supa/intelligence really were scum from the get go.
agreed. I don't know Intel's play that well yet but he is definitely behaving dumber and less interested than earlier games. Supa, on the other hand, seems mostly checked out which isn't like him scum or town.
I am generally believing the claims on the table with LOVERS being the worst of these. The wild card is the two non-claimants, you and Ragnar2. Based on BATWOMAN's bio and the close connections between characters and ROLES my first guess is that you are VIG- maybe 1XVIG that holding on to your shot or maybe 2xVIG that hit Ragnar last night and you're afraid to say so (Ragnar was top of my SCUM pile yesterday so I wouldn't fault a VIG) and SCUM failed to NK.
I wasn't sure the thought was worth voicing until Intel seems to fishing for VIGs this AM.
I can't really tell who not to believe until everybody gives us something to believe. Right now, you and Ragnar are the hold outs.
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@Intelligence_06
So how did Ragnar1 die? I have heard that the Mafia NK might be targeting us or so.Ragnar1 is a watcher, so whatever killed him is either something similar to a PGO or something similar to a Vigilante. I might have missed some posts, so point it out if I am wrong.
Well we were all presuming that mafia NK'd Ragnar1. There are a couple of characters that match vigilante so a VIG is at least possible and there's a couple of role s that could break the NK (BP, DOC). It sounds like you have reason to suspect Ragnar1 did not die by NK.
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look at the the read boards. After you claimed DOC I moved you up.
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TOWN Claim Role DP1
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I was expecting DOCTOR but I thought that what Ragnar was covering up.
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TOWN Claim Role DP1
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If the majority of town asks for my claim I am willing to do so.
I started a mini-trend.
Is there gonna be LIVE mafia tonight?
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@Lunatic
maybe one of the lovers.
both LOVERS say that Speed told them they are both TOWN. Therefore it can't be half and half. It's not a bad fake claim for SCUM but I can't see Supa and Intel locking themselves together so early as scum. Therefore very likely TOWN. IF we believe everybody's claim so far, then its just you and SA holding out on ROLES even after the COP has outed and desperately needs to know who to COP tonight. I just can't believe you have a ROLE that's more important to TOWN than COP's need to know who to COP tonight.
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@MisterChris
We're still talking through whether we believe him. I'm not sure myself
I think I believe you. Let me know if I can answer questions.
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whether or not I'm lynched I think we're OK if we believe present claims (which I think we should)
TOWN Claim Role DP1
the non-claimers are likliest
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bomb and BP? that's two people mafia can't kill but I guess it kind of makes up for the lovers if all 4 are town.
We've already established that BOMB is a fake claim. If Ragnar was Plastique/BOMB he would not have been confused when I asked him directly whether he was right after drafter's hasty exit. Ragnar didn't seem to know what I was talking about and Chris says he's TOWN so I don't need any further claim. Does your role visit people at night?
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All right, I am choosing to believe Chris and Chris vouches for Ragnar.
That leaves Lunatic and SirA as most likely to be scum.
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TOWN Claim Role DP1
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