Maybe a tiny TL in Wylted and a tiny SL on Savant.
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@Mharman
Maybe a tiny TL in Wylted and a tiny SL on Savant.
I have 2+ pages of reads, but there's a reason I'm not posting them yet.
Wylted trying to insta solve off of a minute detail from Whiteflame about discord PMs does resemble his town play. But he knows I caught him over not doing that last game. We’ll see how it develops as the game goes along. That’s why these reads are only slight. Good start tho
I see Savants stated reason for delaying his reads- but ive known him to be one that analyses every little post. The thing about town metas like that is that they are hard af to fake as scum, so it feels like a cop-out. Especially since throwing out the first scumread or lean of the game will always draw attention. Yes I know his reads were less accurate at the start last game, but that’s always a given, so not much of a need to delay. Bad start imo
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@Savant
93 from me does not account for 92 from you. Sure I’ll wait a little, but I prefer you drop those relatively soon.
I don’t think this is a game where we can sit around and wait too long for everyone else to show up. Someone’s gotta drive the activity, and we’re the ones who are actually active rn
I don’t think this is a game where we can sit around and wait too long for everyone else to show up. Someone’s gotta drive the activity, and we’re the ones who are actually active rn
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@Mharman
ive known him to be one that analyses every little post. The thing about town metas like that is that they are hard af to fake as scum, so it feels like a cop-out. Especially since throwing out the first scumread or lean of the game will always draw attention.
I told you, I have pages of reads for the first few pages, and I can post them now if you care so much. But you'll see them anyway when I post all my reads on page 20 or so.
Yes I know his reads were less accurate at the start last game, but that’s always a given, so not much of a need to delay.
Is it though? If I give information that's bordering on randomness, how is that better than just flipping a coin and accusing a player? Odds of players being scum is basically equal rn, so pressure should be applied equally. Also, once I accuse a player, I find it hard not to scum read their defensiveness, so it's probably best I wait.
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@Mharman
Sure I’ll wait a little, but I prefer you drop those relatively soon.
Fine, I'll post reads soon-ish.
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@Savant
Ok.
I am going to be very in active this dp but should be around next one. Mid move and just closed on a house. Have not read through the dp but hoping to have everything on and working by mid week.
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@Mikal
I am going to be very in active this dp
Full claim then
In the interest of moving activity forward, reads incoming...
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@Lunatic
@ILikePie5
@Mikal
@WyIted
@iamanabanana
Reads List 1.0
I’m assuming a 7v2 setup. Each player is assigned an estimated probability of being town based on how towny or scummy they are. The average probability of being town is 75%, since there are 6 town players left besides me and 2 scum players left.
Lunatic
- Town Lean (76.4%)
- Playing as Town: Castledp1, JFdp1, JFdp2
- Playing as Scum: Chessdp1, Chessdp2, Chessdp3
- #38, #47, #49 - TL - This comment indicated that Luna paid a good deal of attention to the posts he responded to, which I think is generally pro-town. Scum can joke around too, but they might be more likely to skim, especially if Wyled’s comment doesn’t look particularly opportunistic. Plus jumping around topics indicates a more natural and genuine train of thought.
- #40 - TL - Saying this almost as an afterthought indicates it’s probably not a strategic move.
Wylted
- Town Lean (76.0%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, CoDdp1
- Playing as Scum: Castledp1, GSdp1
- #24, #30 - TL - Wylted draws attention to himself here, which would be a risk as scum, and these thoughts read genuine overall. There’s also a bit of nuance jumping from one subject to another, which I think scum would tend to avoid.
- #31, #33 - TL - Changing his mind without being asked also seems genuine here. It could be a scum play but doesn’t seem as likely.
- #43 - TL - Insulting a player like this is a pretty big risk for scum to take.
- #63 - TL - I think not reading the original post is a town tell.
iamanabanana
- Null (75.0%)
- Playing as Town: Governorsdp1, Governorsdp2, Governorsdp3
- Playing as Scum: Wylteddp1, Wylteddp2
Mikal
- Null (75.0%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, Riddledp1, Riddledp2
- Playing as Scum: Ozarkdp1, Ozarkdp2, Ozarkdp3
ILikePie5
- Null (75.0%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, TRdp1
- Playing as Scum: TVdp1, TVdp2
- #60 - TL - This attempt at identifying a theme split seems genuine enough and not really aimed at getting town cred. Indicates a good deal of effort into thinking through possible mechanics.
Earth
- Scum Lean (74.9%)
- Playing as Town: CoDdp1, CoDdp2, CoDdp3
- Playing as Scum: RRV2dp1, RRV2dp2, RRV2dp3
- #23 - TL - Being slightly hostile like this right out the gate comes off as genuine, since it has little strategic advantage.
- #58 - TL - I agree with this, and there’s not a super strategic reason for Earth to defend Pie here as scum, especially since he could just post less which is his meta.
- #70 - SL - Post indicates that Earth has paid close attention to what can be in the game. I think that’s slightly more likely from scum, especially since Earth doesn’t tend to be a super active player.
Mharman
- Scum Lean (74.3%)
- Playing as Town: JFdp1, JFdp2, JFdp3
- Playing as Scum: CoDdp1, CoDdp2, CoDdp3
- #4, #5 - TL - I think that scum would be under more pressure for their first post and keep it simple, not instantly make a reference to religious literature before voting someone without a good excuse.
- #7 - TL - I don’t think scum would focus on looking into player activity like this, plus switching the vote very confidently.
- #12 - SL - I do think making a joke like this can be a way of “breaking the tension” as scum when posting a lot to avoid being scum read, but this is a very slight indicator.
- #14 - SL - I think it benefits scum here to put pressure on another player like this, especially since Mharman has already voted and arguably needs to justify it.
- #45, #46, #50, #57 - SL - A bit surface level, could be faking genuine conversation. In this case jumping topics isn’t towny since it doesn’t show a lot of thought into scum hunting.
- #51, #53 - TL - High effort here is towny, especially jumping from another subject, and I think Mharman’s reads were a bit less detailed as town.
- #93, #94 - TL - I think the read on me is fair if Mharman thought I didn’t have any reads written yet (and I did promise them before going back and realizing my pg 3 reads were inaccurate last game).
Casey_Risk
- Scum Lean (73.3%)
- Playing as Town: SKdp1, SKdp2, SKdp3
- Playing as Scum: Gunplaydp1, Gunplaydp2, Gunplaydp3
- #34 - SL - I think a town member would be slightly more likely to avoid trusting AI, but a scum member might want to give themselves plausible deniability for getting it wrong, or just not be super concerned with accuracy since they can decide on a claim later. Or scum might not even use AI but say they did hoping it sounds genuine.
- #71, #79 - TL - Given that Casey mentioned the signups page and nothing about WF’s first post, I think this indicates they haven’t paid too much attention to which roles are available for fake claims.
I'll note that last game (literally the only other time I used this system), my early reads were way off. Almost everyone is ≈ rand. But I'd still like people to comment on my reads and hopefully give some more insight into their behavior.
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@ILikePie5
@Mharman
@Mikal
My vote stays on Mikal until we get a full claim. Let's not allow him to scurry away here.
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@Savant
I don’t think there’s a real point in pursuing Mikal for a claim yet. I’d give him more time to check in before that.
As for your read on me, noted. I was joking and fluffing a bit out of boredom. The townlean points have truth to them, although some of it easy to fake as town.
The votes on RM and Earth were for reaction baiting. I thought RM would /out before the game started, so I went for him bc I haven’t played with him in a while, + I felt he was likely to give a reaction that would help read him. Saw he was offline for a long time and figured he would’ve /out-ed if he was more active at that time, so I switched to Earth upon seeing he was online recently but didn’t stop by the DP to say anything.
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@Savant
As for your set of reads, thank you. Helps me read you, and I’ll look at some of your other points on the morning. I already skimmed them but I’ll engage with them more.
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@Savant
Oh and as for my effort: pretty much depends on what mood I’m in. That’s all there is to it. My effort depends on much I feel like it
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@Earth
@Lunatic
@Casey_Risk
Null on Lunatic, Earth, and Casey. Thoughts, you guys?
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@Savant
So, what was the thought process behind delaying those reads? Was it what you’ve already said, or is there more to it?
Savant just gave me something to like and something to dislike
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@Mikal
@iamanabanana
Hoping you two get here soon.
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@Mharman
Thoughts, you guys?
Sorry, I've been at work all day. I feel like I'm not going to be that helpful until the weekend comes. For now, I have a TL on Wylted for behavioral reasons (I'll expand later). I'll have to reread to get solid reads on everyone else. The inactivity definitely isn't helping me out.
Hello everyone. I am gram positive.
Some gut town leans so far: Mharman, pie, savant, their plays so far resemble plays of their most recent town game in game show.
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@iamanabanana
Hello everyone. I am gram positive.
I bet your gram is positive sweetheart.
Doesnit also like long walks on the beach :)
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@WyIted
I bet your gram is positive sweetheart.Doesnit also like long walks on the beach :)
Happy Pride Month Cassie
1. Savant - Gram Negative
2. Banana - Gram Positive
3. Casey_Risk - Gram Negative
4. Lunatic - Gram Positive
5. Earth - Gram Positive
6. Mharman - Gram Positive
7. ILikePie5 - Gram Negative
8. Mikal
9. WyIted - Atypical
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@whiteflame
@Mikal
I’m fine voting Mikal for a claim if he’s going to be inactive today
VTL Mikal
Votes:
iamanabanana (1/5): WyIted
Mikal (3/5): Mharman, Savant, Pie
I've already talked about Gram stains, but there are a lot of different ways to do staining, all of which make use of different elements in or around the cell wall. There is an acid-fast stain, which can identify organisms with waxy cell walls. There's an endospore stain using malachite green that will stain individual spores both within and outside of a cell. There are flagellar stains that allow you to see the whip-like appendages that allow cells to become motile. And there is a capsule stain, which is actually a negative stain where you don't stain the bacteria at all but instead stain the background, making the capsules around cells visible by contrast. There are even some mixtures of stains that allow you to tell if a cell is alive, dying or necrotic based on which stain they pick up.
Im back trying to fix my sleep schedule again, so I likely wont be active til this evening or tonight. Im about to go into a coma of sleep.
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@Mharman
what was the thought process behind delaying those reads? Was it what you’ve already said, or is there more to it?
Basically what I said. Reads weren't accurate last game until page 20, and that's the only other time I tried this.