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Every single disciple and person Jesus used his power on to cure was male, correct?
It's as if female attention and loyalty meant absolutely nothing to him.
It's as if female attention and loyalty meant absolutely nothing to him.
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If I don't want to answer, I won't answer.
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Israel are not innocent. People need to stop assuming they're just innocent victims defending their so-called homeland. They ripped apart a community and slaughtered many against the wishes of 6 Islamic cultures/nations/peoples to declare that as their homeland, with assistance from US and UK. They have since killed many, minors included and not always in retaliation AT ALL. I can positively tell you they had no fucking genuine reason to kill and make homeless the recent Palestinians they have so far other than sheer arrogance and abuse of power over what was never their capital (Jerusalem) until Trump stuck his nose in to say 'fuck you' to Palestine and Iran.
You also should not for a single second think Israel is the only aggressor and issue at hand. Hamas are legally in charge of the Palestinians by brutal Mafia means of control. They throw PLO leaders off buildings if they don't cower to Hamas and are recruiting, brainwashing and blackmailing any detractors which includes teens and even young boys as well as pregnant women. Stop thinking when IDF sometimes do things it's never in proper defence. If you knew what Hamas does in terms of human shields and child/teen soldiers are and investigate most (not all, most) instances of IDF harming it's in retaliation and defensive maneuvers.
Hamas explicitly state they will never negotiate with nor recognise the existence of Israel as a state (as PLO used to say themselves but got blackmailed to stay true to when they considered alternatives).
Now, we have an ultra-conservative ruthless Netanyahu who also won't negotiate. This is getting worse and worse from both sides.
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We, unlike most mammals, lack a penis bone and have very sensitive female genitalia, which has led to our erections and reproduction involving more pleasure and drive towards it than other species experience.
I wonder why God did this if us, the species closest to god, have the most innate urges and/or needs for foreplay, orgasms, arousal etc.
Rats and rabbits reproduce much more, as do insects, however I am speaking of lust itself (the pleasurable experience of sex). The only other species that is definitely shown to feel this same rush from sex are those of dolphins.
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I will start with myself.
Theme Song: P Money - Shook
Closest Fictional Character: Jaime Lannister
Exaggerated Overview:
A complex combination of ruthlessness and sentimentality, RM is known for his willingness to take almost anyone on and doesn't necessarily care too much about what people think of him despite being cocky.
Politically and religiously, RM represents a 'mystical' stance that incorporates pragmatism mixed with mercy and care in a strange concoction that he sees as morally justifable ruthlessness. This also sums up how he approaches debating in the formal arena. RM is less concerned with having the last word in conversation and more concerned with seeming witty enough or arguing well enough before letting things be.
Some find him intelligent, others find him cringey, no one truly knows what to make of him. He may have a soft core beneath a harsh exterior or may have a harder core beneath said softness.
Strengths:
- Extremely energetic and passionate
- Witty and cunning, unpredictable as an opponent
- Somewhat charismatic and quick to welcome newer members (even if it is done in a harsh way)
- Courageous, while some of his fights are easy he is also one of the only experienced members to not flinch too much from the opportunity to challenge a fellow 'Titan' of the site.
Weaknesses:
- Fragile Ego, even though he masks it at times he is sensitive to insults to his ability or self-worth, this can lead him to overreact
- Impulsivity is his fuel, when it goes well it goes brilliant but this also means that if he lacks the 'fire' to debate in the middle of a debate he finds it extremely difficult to keep it going. He debates as a passionate spar, not simply for the win at least not all the time.
- Chaotic nature puts people who prefer structure and monotony at extreme odds with him. There is probably not a single member that enjoys conformity and structure that is allied with RM.
- Bluntness, which he would call honesty, can cause significant abrasion with members and even be interpreted as direct insult at times. He works hard to avoid this but he isn't one to pussyfoot and never will be, at least not by nature.
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The mafia has won.
The theme split was:
- All Scum come to accept that defeat is an inevitable and healthy part of life. Yumemi Yumemite accepting this and Midari Ikishima not accepting this was the most deceptive part of the theme split and why I felt comfortable revealing it, I will justify this later. Midari enjoys losing out of masochistic impulse, not out of genuine humility and definitely thinks people who win are corrupt cowards usually unless they put their life on the line without cheating.
- All Town not only respect Yumeko Jabami in a genuine sense but they conform (not necessarily respect) the system in the school, even the rebel Midari who was personally responsible for the forced marriage arrangements going on with some losers who couldn't pay their debts (Kirari masterminded it and was also Town). In short, the Town conforms the most to society, though Meari is rebellious as her character develops she still maintains an ultimately conservative playstyle and ethos throughout. Yumeko conforms on the outside (how she dresses and acts) but inside is a complete anarchist, Yumemi Yumemite and Runa Yomozuki don't conform much at all, they love to stand out in multiple ways, Runa is the only Council member who loathes both cheating as well as ever risking too much at any given time (she is never even seen to gamble in the series' two seasons) and dresses very peculiar. Yumeko Jabami doesn't respect herself and Yumemi only fears Yumeko, she doesn't genuinely respect her at all she thinks Yumeko is merely lucky and crazy but accepts her defeat to Yumeko regardless. This was an interesting fused theme-split, you could even break this apart into two layers but a theme 'around Yumeko and who respects her' sounds unfair to make its own thing.
- The third split is nearly unnoticeable. The Town all play with an agenda at all times. They never play a gamble without an agenda behind it at any point int he two seasons though Kirari comes close. Yumeko has an agenda at all times but also plays for the thrill itself. Yumemi and Runa may have agendas in part but both adore gambling itself. Yumemi intentionally lost sections of her serial-gamble contest vs Yumeko just because she thought it would be more spectacular.
The roles were balanced such that if 1-2 members of any team were both bad, that team would almost 100% come to be defeated while the other 2 stand a chance.
That is true for almost all 7-player setups but this was very well balanced in my opinion.
There was no role in the game that had no capacity to lose if they or their teammate screwed up significantly, there was also no role in the game that had no capacity to win if they played proficiently, especially as I noticed you guys didn't know the theme so I revealed a layer of the theme to help.
The images had this in common: All Town faced forward with their body and head (but Midari looked up). All held in their hands something to do with stakes/gambling as well as something significant in the storyline that nearly hurts them and shows a human side to them. Also, all the town were sombre or unhappy in expression.
The thirdparty had a couple of things in common and quite a few things to lead to the thirdparty describing their image in a way that despite being similar enough could lead Town to suspect them.
The Mafia were even directly baited and misled by me in part because the clue I gave them to counteract the theme-split suggested that their torsos facing left of the image and their happy expressions didn't really matter. On the other hand, my clue did help them realise that Runa carrying a lollypop and having cards swirling around her probably implied that I had mixed some things around, I'll reveal the hint and specifics in my next post.
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During NP1, Bullish found his way to the graveyard.
Jabami Yumeko!(Jabami is the family name)Ayyyyyyyyyyy, what luck! Let's get gambling!"Yuuumeekkoooo!" screams Ryota, one of the few to call you by your given name (as opposed to Jabami). You're at it again, gambing like the risk-lusting degenerate you r-... That people mistake you to be.Or? Are you?Who knows in the end? The point is... There is no point. You see that, all the other students think there's a point to the gambling.Ryota thought there was a bad point to the gambling, Meari thought there's a good point to it... You showed both that neither was right.Your role is the Cult Mentor!You have the following active ability:Each Night-Phase, you can opt to recruit someone as your Mentee. The Mentee is told who you are and will share a private chat with you.You dying kills your Mentee but if the Mentee dies, you are free to recruit another (up to 1 at any time).The Mentee's win-condition, once recruited, is you being alive at the end of the game (this isn't as simple as your win condition though), they cannot win with their old alignment anymore but maintain that role and power. They lose if you lose, their entire alignment changes to support you but their role power remains.Your win-condition is to last to the final 2 of the game or, if alive and the game ends. It will not be easy but Yumeko never was one for easy gambles.To be clear, you can joint-win with Mafia if there is one Mafia and you at the end.Another thing to note is that I will be putting in the death-message of your mentee that they were corrupted somehow (so if they were vanilla, I would say "(corrupted) vanilla") and then when I say 'You win with the X!" I will put - instead of their old alignment (X) and end the sentence there.This is done to balance things so that town are unsure if it's mafia doing it or a third party, while letting mafia be aware that the third-party role can do something to town players without using a mechanical term that reveals exactly what.You act before the Mafia kill as well as any other night-phase kill goes through. Your mentee will be revealed as corrupted if they die the same night you recruit them.Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role. Also, as your role requires communication channels, please give me your Discord, I will add you as a friend and invite you to a server.Town members who lack communication did not get asked to give me their Discord, in case you would slip that way.You win with yourself (and your mentees, under the conditions described, they can win with you losing if you're alive in a minority at the end, I will not make this explicitly clear to them however)Everyone else received 'You win with the Town/Mafia.' at the end there.It is recommended to you to claim Cop. There is guaranteed no Town Cop and guaranteed a(or multiple) Town Role(s) that protect(s). This information is given to you in order to balance out the game. I will justify this after the game is over.YumekoWhile most memebrs had a decebt sized (not super short) role and character PM, yours is significantly longer than any town members'. Do not slip by saying it was so long, it would be unfair for me to not tell you this.For balancing reasons, if you mentor a member of the mafia, they will be ejected from the Mafia factional chat and the partner will be told nothing direct. they lose the ability to nightkill, that's how I'll balance it.
After outing a major hint about the theme-split, I gave this clue to Bullish:
I think my hint may be too powerful against your character btw, just a tip.
I will not out who he has mentored or if it succeeded.
Good luck to any and all sides remaining.
Dead Mentees don't stay in the chat nor do dead Mentors, the same is not true for Mafia and their factional chat.
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Yes or no? Why?
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Tell me what the Left Wing is.
What makes someone Left-Wing?
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Just wanted you to know. I have come to accept that debating and this community simehow may be a part of me until I die. Even when I quit, the debater in me remains. I know most of you don't like me but that's not really a factor in me liking this website. I love myself, I don't need you to like me, I just need a place to be myself without too much of a filter and this really is that. It's actually therapeutic and fun if you use this website correctly or any kindnof debating forum really (but there's very few that have as widespread a range of topics and high effort posts as this other than perhaps certain Reddit threads but that lacks the community vibe this has).
I posted this as a joke to a Supadudz April fool's quitting thread hut it has a lot of truth about me and DART (well and the website before it, at least until I really did quit it for good):
If you're worried it's a rickroll or troll vid, ask yourself if I'd do that. That's why I wouldn't do it here, you'd expect it.
Don't like the mods but Ragnar's sometimes funny. MisterChris idk he's sometimes cool, though he's just a voting mod.
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The theme split is abstract, do not expect every character to stereotypically fit their alignment or even role (though some will/might).The images you have been sent after your role PMs do not matter too much in the same way that specific sentences don't matter in a role PM.You are 100% disallowed to link the URLs of images of the characters in-game other than the specific ones of the fandom wiki(s) as I haven't used them.Treat the image you have like specific wording inside the role PM, you should feel free to describe it perhaps even more detailed than your PM but never show it directly, not even trying to draw it and showing that. There are one or two commonalities between the images Town members received vs what the scum did. This was calculated to be difficult but not impossible to solve, there are many misleading commonalities and differences. I incorporated this to give 4v1v2 Town a real chance at eliminating scum day one, this game is going to be cutthroat.Lunatic is Yumemi (family name Yumemite, yes that similar) the Superstar/Celebrity. He is role-confirmed only, his alignment isn't revealed/naked.
This is what a superstar is: https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=SuperstarThe role (or flavouring of role) means he is essentially the role version of what alignment is to the Innocent Child.Your thinking about the characters and setup can start now, let's use the time Whiteflame has requested as making it worth what I assure you is a complex/cryptic setup and theme-split.This is officially my first ever hosted mafia game in history of debating sites, I am new and experimenting, please bear with me.
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My results are:
- 41.7% Left, 44.4% Liberal
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These are the facts. You can now proceed to spread your lies.
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This doesn't mean rigid rhyme scheme necessarily, if you don't know what flow is, you need to listen to these raps.
Flow is felt, it is experienced, you cannot ever truly make it into a science, it has an area of it that makes no logical sense.
If you are able to 'zone out' of the song, if you don't involuntarily go 'hot damn' to the track and let it hypnotise you from the way the lyrics and track flow seamlessly, the flow is jarred in some way and insufficient to be called god tier flow.
And that's just the tip of the iceberg (of each artist as well as of rap in general).
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Except for the name of the religion?
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Do not talk. Do not say a word. Do not type. Watch a murderous racist abuse of police power take place and pay some fucking respect.
It makes me sick that you idiots can even fall for some bullshit propaganda. Stfu and watch it. Understand what you are defending.
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It will have a theme but because the cast of the Anime is so small, the divide won't be strictly obvious. I will not give fake claims to Mafia.
I want to prove myself as a host, you can dislike my playstyle but I am a very fair host.
I will be lenient on banter but if you go too far or try to use Outside-Game Influence types of threats or doxxing (beyond revealing who a player was on Debate.Org) I must step in.
Do not paste my PMs to you, try not to copy more than three consecutive words I used in my PM to you when paraphrasing.
I realise Anime things are the hot thing here so I'll give it a try.
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I know what you'll say, just a second think...
If this happened it wouldn't be once in a blue moon that forum games carried on for a long time. The reason they die out is Mafia threads drown them and people too easily see that other thread and can't resist to take a peek (not that I can relate, I find Mafia pseudointellectual banter at best).
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King David of this fine establishment wants you all to know that there is no rule and he wants a MEEP.
An enforcable rule on using comments sections as well as general assistance and coaching of debaters during a debate both in general but especially in the Comments Section of that debate with live tips.
Should it be introduced?
I say yes and it should have punishment proportional to how extensive and precise the assistance was, not simply on how intentional it appears to be.
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The one thing 3RU7AL has done more than the rest is he likes every single post on threads he reads (and doesn't like his own).
At first, I was like okay... weird... And it's fine to be weird, we all are weird here in our own way.
The thing I couldn't quite understand is why he never liked his own posts if this was his habit, I figured maybe it's a thing of hoping others notice and like him back (which I have done at times).
That said, I want to note something else, there are users like myself and Supadudz who clearly are posting far more than some beating us at 'likes'. There is no way this is happening if you look at the ratios (we aren't that much worse at making like-worthy posts).
1096:681
This is the ratio of Tarik
2268:1148
This is the ratio of Theweakeredge
12,269:1,049
This is the ratio of Supadudz
9,429:802
This is the ratio of myself.
8,753:1,328
This is the ratio of 3RU7AL.
I am absolutely certain that this would not be possible if it was based on likes received. In fact, I am happy that it is based on likes given as it's kind of cute in a way and that 3RU7AL secretly noticed this. It seems he calculated that it doesn't reward you for liking your own posts, which I now understand is perhaps true (the admin himself said so) but it is measing likes you've given.
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One of the best games out rn that is available on almost all OS (works on Linux via WINE or equivalent 'run free Windows apps on Linux' type of software
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Legends of Runeterra. At first it appears to be based on luck, do not let this delude you. I play poker and other such games, I know how to interpret luck vs skill in a game; this game involves ~85% skill and ~15% luck. The skill is everything combined; how to build a deck, how to use the deck, how to predict and bait the enemy into misplaying their spells and/or units.
There's levels to this shit, spells that can and can't be used in reaction to others due to spell-type and such interactions. It is fascinating and extremely high skillcap.
In the earlier seasons, it was disgusting how OP some broken decks were but they have genuinely balanced it over time in my opinion. It's also genuinely free-to-play. You can garner the rewards required to unlock superior decks within 1-2 weeks of solid gameplay. I would say if you dedicate your free time to this game that in 3 weeks you will easily have enough rewards to pivot around each other and experiment with in 2-3 entirely different branches. Do not buy cards impulsively, think a little. Cheaper cards will come free in rewards much more often so save green essence for extreme scenarios where you want to push past your wild card max to unlock something.
Avoid going on expeditions and the lab+gauntlet at first. Stick to the main game mode and mix it up with vs AI and vs players. Be sure to do 'challenges' to grasp mechanics of most deck types.
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I don't understand what he means by that statement. Omega males are basically the very rebellious type who refuse to bow down before the Alpha male, in an overt manner that can at times get them punished, depending on personality clashes and agendas.
Scar in Lion King was a Sigma male while Mufasa was an obvious Alpha. However, a good example of what an Omega Male is, is actually Pumbaa (Timon is more of a beta male). If God is both the rebellious and the man in charge is it true to say God may be Satan himself?
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I welcome people of many perspectives to post their view on this thread's title.
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I am someone who has been dealing with chronic 'low mood' as well as anxiety my entire life, especially once I was a teen. I have tried therapy/ies and medications but I do confess to not having tried many long enough or trying enough variety to truly talk of the good of this vs that.
What I can tell you is that St. John's Wort (a powerful flower-based herbal remedy) is extremely good at stabilising my mood in ways nothing has been before. I am aware that you wouldn't notice that by me on this website as I appear hostile at times but combined with habitual deep breathing and regular meditation, this has made me never once 'lose it'. I'm not saying I need it for that, you can attribute that success to me but without it, the baseline mood is lower and more anxious.
Do not take this if you're pregnant, on menopause medication or other antidepressant medication. Other mood stabilising medication can potentially work in harmony with it, so research carefully.
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When horrific acts are done by people who claimed, carried out traditions and see/saw themselves as members of a religion, often what is done by the politically correct media is to sympathise with the religious group and encourage peace by denouncing those people away from being considered genuine members of the religious group.
This goes for literally any incident or scandal you can think of, I am not just talking about the horrific acts that make the headlines.
The reason this strikes me as somewhat worrying is that while this is done, it then begins to highlight a hypocrisy when we see that people can define themselves, readily and happily, as members of religions we sometimes really resent those who do actually do it just to be part of the group. What I am saying is that let's say you're a person who wants to blend in with your very Christian, Islamic, Jewish, Buddhist etc family, if not friendship circle as well, you'd probably just say you're a member of that religion right? As long as you didn't do anything too scandalous or let's say you weren't caught, you'd be deemed a genuine member of that religion and anyone who would say 'wait no, that's just a poser' would instead get the backlash. What, then, actually qualifies someone as a genuine member of the religion?
To make it very clear what I am saying and the contradiction happening, I will explain it as an either/or statement.
Either
The evil people who know their holy scriptures off by heart and understand their religion's history very well are incorrectly being denounced as 'fake Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, Hindus etc'
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The not-so-evil posers who use religion to either blend in or get some kind of societal privilege are not actually posers, since the only real disqualifying factor appears to be how troublesome it would be to admit you're an adhering member of that religion.
The further thing to ask is whether it's morally correct and appropriate for people to 'raise their child into a religion' when we don't know which religion is the actual true one, right?
The very fact that entire families are commonly all of the same faith, if they're not atheist, isn't a coincidence and it is a reflection on religion being nothing more than a social construct. Even more disturbing is the fact that things like circumcision and animal abuse involved with many Islamic, Satanic and Wiccan sacrificial festivals are actually completely contradictory since we should be disqualifying them as they're justifying mutilation in the name of their religion. We actually did this with Muslims who endorsed (and a select minority still endorse) female circumcision, as well as many other examples such as what Christians used to do to suspected 'witches'. Similarly, Saudi Arabia has recently begun to cave into international pressure to move away from the strictly sexist elements of its Sharia Law, legalising women to drive and compete in the Olympics. Women are made to be pure subjects of men in the Qur'an, although it's true to say that in Islamic history there have been fierce female empresses and in Pakistan and Afghanistan in particular there have been female politicians who actively have been in charge of taming and handling negotiations with the Taliban.
The problem is that I am not exactly saying that it would be politically wise to be honest when a member of a religion does a very evil act. It's a very appropriate lie to suddenly say 'no they are nothing like what our religion stands for and are 100% fake' but that person probably knew more about the religion and lived more devout in terms of the traditions and lifestyle than most posers who call themselves 'casual followers' or 'modern, progressive' variants of their religion. The thing is, at what stage is religion nothing more than a fancy name to associate your 'group' or 'clique' with? What truly qualifies or disqualifies a genuine Muslim for example? It can't just be whether they're evil or not.
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I got issues with this quiz too, but because a 'neutral' option exists, it ends up superior to political compass on balance as well as due to the depth of the results.
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I have begun to realise that a niche of debates I am much more interested in that I first assumed and good at doing, are discussions of characters and such in fictional shows/series/movie-franchises.
It is very important that your offered debate topics inside this thread do not directly spoil something, if they do, please put in very clear formatted test 'SPOILER ALERT' above it.
This is primarily for offering series and general characters or scenes (that you hint at) and for people to DM/PM each other about it, or even directly challenge. This can be moved to TV or whatever section when the mods want but I am putting this in the DART section because I want people to see it and that subforum is barely viewed at all.
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Is it fair that we let very fit jocks and the female equivalent of jocks to compete against barely matured skinny/fat weak kids that have barely hit puberty yet?
I feel there's surely an unfair aspect to it in terms of ability for the latter to impress or score high.
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If we had a world where there were no import/export tariffs and economics was purely about trade between consumers and providers of goods/services, economics itself would ve both simpler and in fact more closely linked to productivity than it currently is.
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I believe god created us for entertainment purposes. I believe in a rather deistic god overall. How about you?
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This is my result today, feel free to post yours and to keep updated lists, even with combined plots.
For the record, I think the test is poorly designed with many questions eother leaving only one answer correct or alternatively being worded in a confusing way via 'if' and 'sometimes' etc making it confusing what precisely is being asked.
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Just a thought.
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Almost all religions revolve around denying that death is inevitable and that we eventually will be nothingness just as we originally were pre-birth.
We are going to die. We will not live on. We are meaningless and never will mean more than what we make out of our limited, insignificant lives. This is horrific for egocentric people and so they create a fairytale that tells them that in the afterlife they'll be treated oh so well. It doesn't happen. God wouldn't design reality to reward the humble and good with an afterlife where you are selfish and hedonistic in paradise. That entirely contradicts itself.
It's not nice to think that we just die and just live with no deep meaning to it. It's a truth even many atheists deny despite knowing it's true, deep down.
You can sit all day typing in this subforum about your coping mechanism regarding death and the futility of life. It's not going to change the facts but neither is being atheist going to change the fact that nothing can't create everything, there must be a god. We are probably in a simulation, I'm not sure why and don't think that pretending you know the reason why is intellectually honest/genuine
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Everyone talks shit about how mediocre he was but he had to pick up from Bush's shit era.
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There's many flaws with it but I've seen three avid fans of it recently post demands for another user (one was me being asked by 3RU7AL) to take it and reveal the result.
I went into depth on the general types of flaws that are consistent in the test but I'm willing to lay out each flawed question as well as to Kritik auth vs lib being a flawed scale itself since one can be auth on one issue and lib on another while in between on another with a consistent outlook despite inconsistent authoritarianism vs libertarianism.
Who here likes this test a lot?
The test is found here: https://www.politicalcompass.org
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What if god directly contacted you and proved they were god but told you that the only way you can stay in touch and experience your privileges (which may include getting into the heaven) is if you never talked about the god to others and kept it a secret, perhaps even masquerading as an atheist or at least agnostic?
Would you lie to everyone you knew?
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Simple yet accurate political quiz. America/modern-day specific. 2 Options per question, 9 outcomes.
Note: You can remain neutral on a question by clicking 'Next' without answering it, I recommend not doing so if you do lean either way. I did this for a question and retook the quiz after realising it was possible, I got the same result though.
My best fit is...
Solid Liberalsalong with 16% of the public.Highly educated and politically engaged, Solid Liberals hold consistently liberal values. They back a robust role for government and are strong advocates of the social safety net. Large majorities view the current economic system as unfair and see economic inequality as a major problem. They take broadly positive views of immigrants, and fully 99% think being open to people from around the world is an essential part of the nation’s identity. Most say more needs to be done to address both racial discrimination and obstacles to women’s achievement. They support same-sex marriage and believe homosexuality should be accepted by society. Solid Liberals are the most Democratic of all typology groups: nearly two-thirds (64%) identify as Democrats, another 35% lean toward the Democratic Party.
^ Link to the quiz.
More on the types (this is a spoiler and I suggest you DO NOT READ THE FOLLOWING LINK BEFORE TAKING THE QUIZ, it will subconsciously drive you to push for a result you want rather than what you actually are.
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Just a legit question.
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This is the truth, I promise you, read carefully. Lucifer is a different guy and if anything he is Jesus.
God of OT = Devil = Satan
Lucifer = Jesus
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The entire Trump legacy, in business and law/politics, is stained beyond repair.
The only hope any single of his family has, to avoid being associated with the vile narcissism and insanity that he brought to US culture and politics, is to disassociate from the Trumps completely. I am not saying that it would be easy to do so but I am indeed suggesting that there is no way whatsoever for them to escape the stain on 'Trump'.
He has thoroughly ruined everything he built legacy-wise. Good job Donald, your grandchildren will grow up despised for sins of their grandfather.
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This time I have really gotten bored of debating, I'm not quitting because I'm addicted to debating but because I'm bored of it. I just posted a round of simple argumentation to one debate and that's it I am done here.
I know what you are thinking but I just wanted you to know that I am done with debating and that I never joined this site to 'rise to the top' in and of itself, I came to be the best at debating even if the Elo didn't show it. The competitiveness was for show and in reality I am more humble than a lot of you realise but that's fine by me.
I think it has gotten to a point where I enter a debate, know the ways it can pan out and get too bored to 'type it out' and passionately fight to the end.
Even if I tried and then lost, even that loss no longer seems to be based on an actual error of logic on my part but instead an error in grasping how voters perceive strength of arguments and what matters more vs less, this even applies to rap battles and songs.
I do appreciate what spending (not wasting) my life debating on this website has done for me and I may come on now and again as a forum chatter. I guess Trump losing and some other things going well for me IRL have led to me finally understanding that I don't need to argue my way through life in actuality, even if I'm right. People really are capable of seeing truth at times and when they don't it's not really my duty to 'prove them wrong' other than those that really matter to me and seek my wisdom and vice versa, no one's duty to convince me of the truth if I believe a lie.
I think that true strategy dictates that we avoid the need to debate as much as possible, even if we are lawyers. Instead the superior strategist uses evidence and relies on 'common sense' notions which (if wrong) they gently nudge but don't brutally say is 'wrong'. These are the people who actually go furthest in life and prove people wrong in any true sense.
I can sit here all day typing and what have I achieved? In the past, I gained wisdom but it seems that I'm no longer learning 'how to think' or 'how to debate', just 'how to angle the debating so that voters back me up'. It's not fun, it's not rewarding and I also never really got over how David/Virtuoso and Ragnar betrayed me the way they did and never once admitted they were wrong.
If I combine everything together, this is a place I no longer gain wisdom, joy or even anything close to friendship from. That's why I am done regularly engaging here. You can think whatever you want about me and 'bet when he will return'. I seriously don't see me coming back to actually debate, I may come back to post rarely in the forums because I feel like sometimes there really is information to garner from someone who's more researched in a political, theological or whatever else realm and challenging them is a good way to open your mind based on their reply. Other than that, there's not much keeping me here, I have to finish off the fantasy football league but that doesn't require me to use this website. I think I'll get fourth there, out of ten. Which isn't that bad considering how little I knew of the sport or the game structure of fantasy football to begin with.
I may get sixth though, who knows? Thanks for giving me wisdom and a hobby for a long while in my life.
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Instead of keeping his mouth shut and going out with his head held somewhat high, he makes an absolute fool of himself for no reasonable gain whatsoever this drama has not benefitted him at all and even old allies are beginning to turn on him permanently. I think he's screwed over his own business relations as a result of this, no intelligent person wants their brand associated with this lunatic anymore.
I just can't believe how at the end of such an utterly shit-tier example of how to lead a nation and maintain unity in your populace as their leader, this guy has to end it all on an even lower note than anyone had thought possible.
Lose with dignity man, you could have had a bright future ahead of you business-wise. Instead, your entire family dynasty is now tarnished as it's permanently associated with your narcissistic delusions forevermore.
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You will be ranked upon several factors. There is no such thing as a truly ideal debater, everyone makes sacrifices in their playstyle.
I'll start off with some who I think won't have an issue with me rating them, if you want to be rated let me know.
Ratings in each category are out of 10
Oromagi
Originality: 8
Depth of Research: 10
Effort vs Margin of Guaranteed Victory: 3
Intimidation Factor ~ Makes Opponents Forfeit/Concede: 9
Intimidation Factor ~ Unpredictability Drives Opponents To Argue Chaotically: 5
Intimidation Factor ~ Reputation Brings The Utmost Stress and Effort in Opponents: 10
Ingenuity of Debate-Structure Manipulation: 4
Eloquence: 6
Rebuttal Factor ~ Brushing off many paragraphs with 2-3 sentences: 1
Rebuttal Factor ~ Meshing rebuttals with contentions: 8
Rebuttal Factor ~ Constructing arguments that are extremely difficult to rebuke without hurting one's own case in some way: 8
Rebuttal Factor ~ Tendency to understand how voters interpret rebuttal-vs-contention interaction and strength: 10
Quality of Presentation: 7
Ragnar
Originality: 6
Depth of Research: 8
Effort vs Margin of Guaranteed Victory: 7
Intimidation Factor ~ Makes Opponents Forfeit/Concede: 7
Intimidation Factor ~ Unpredictability Drives Opponents To Argue Chaotically: 7
Intimidation Factor ~ Reputation Brings The Utmost Stress and Effort in Opponents: 10
Ingenuity of Debate-Structure Manipulation: 8
Eloquence: 9
Rebuttal Factor ~ Brushing off many paragraphs with 2-3 sentences: 7
Rebuttal Factor ~ Meshing rebuttals with contentions: 10
Rebuttal Factor ~ Constructing arguments that are extremely difficult to rebuke without hurting one's own case in some way: 10
Rebuttal Factor ~ Tendency to understand how voters interpret rebuttal-vs-contention interaction and strength: 10
Quality of Presentation: 9
Let me know if you want me to rate you or another user, I will first make sure I have permission to rate everyone in this way.
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I won't go into myself too much here but I'll confess to having experienced genuine depression in my life and during that time, I was the closest to atheist I had been. I was always agnostic overall but what changed was when the nihilism and pure lack of meaning and purpose hit me, infected my brain so much that I wondered why I was alive and didn't want to get out of bed each day and was sad I woke up.
I am serious when I say that this thread is not meant to be about me. I want to truly understand how a round-earth believing atheist can possibly fathom themselves to be anything other than a worthless being on a spinning ball in the middle of nowhere hurtling through infinite nothingness for absolutely no true purpose and that everything good or worthwhile in their life was a ridiculously futile chemical reaction in their brain just deluding them to stupidly think there was any reason to feel fulfilled for it.
This is not made to mock; it's something I, as a Pagan/Taoist thinker find the biggest drive away from even indulging in the notion that there is/are no real deity/ies or spiritual realm in life that give my morally good actions meaning and anything I ever did a permanent, pure and irrefutable purpose as at the very least I impressed the god(dess)/(e)s watching.
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Look, I understand the frustration at first. Life is a series of 'choosing the lesser of two evils' it's just that sometimes (rarely) we have the pleasure of the lesser evil being genuinely great if not phenomenal, rather than just better than the other.
So, you are sitting there complaining that you have to choose the lesser evil in an election and refusing to vote the lesser evil based on that... I mean, I at least respect the people who do truly vote for their third party 'throwaway' vote more than those who refuse to vote at all. I'm not here to virtue signal about voting, it's totally up to you what you do with your vote in an election but what I can say is that I personally will never not vote in a general election so long as I am a citizen of a country where votes aren't rigged and am entitled to vote.
Of course it's not just about your sole vote, if you can convince just 2 people to vote for the decisions you see as optimal for your nation and/or local seat/region then do so. Regardless, if you want to be private about your political views and not convince anyone at least vote, yourself. Trump won 2016 by targeted social media manipulation and even targeted letters to convince people not to vote for either party, who were likely to vote for Clinton. It has been exposed that Republicans are attempting something similar this time around as well, potentially:
Whether or not this is the case, please bear in mind that these dirty tactics only work because of an underlying willingness in people to refuse to vote for the lesser evil. What exactly is your endgame in refusing to vote? Do you think you will overhaul the system and neither party will win? All you have done is made it easier for the party you want least to win, to actually gain the victory. This ironically make you even more disheartened with the political system and more likely not to vote, people are voting less and less because of this strategy of manipulating you into complacancy. Do not be complacent.
Whichever party you support the least and who is likeliest to win, it is not a toxic reason to base a vote for the other major party, especially if you overall don't mind the other party winning. Choosing the lesser evil doesn't make you a morally less in-tact person, it makes you unwilling to cower out of a tough decision and that bleeds moral integrity in all ways.
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- Oromagi "Genius of Research, MMA Kingpin."
- Ragnar "Tai Chi Guru of the BoP shift"
- Whiteflame "Extremely Charismatic Nerd"
- Ramshutu "Merciless Exploiter of Weaknesses"
- RationalMadman "Kung Fu Multidisciplinary Beast"
- Blamonkey "Hermitic Ninja"
- Alec/TheUnderdog "Jiu Jitsu Propagandist"
- Trent0405 "Valiant Knight of Solid Citation"
- TheRealNihilist "Brutally Aggressive Case Builder"
- MisterChris "Karate Propagandist"
- SemperFortis "High IQ Chameleon"
- Zaradi "Revered Wielder of Philosophical Artillery"
- Discipulus_Didicit "Ramshutu's Apprentice"
- Intelligence_06/User_06 "Prodigy of the Dark Arts"
- Bsh1 "Rhetoric Warrior of the Left"
- Speedrace "Sumo Master of the Defensive Rebuttal"
- Imabench "That Legend Everyone Forgot They All Remember"
- bmdrocks21 "Merciless Underdog"
- Death23 "Drunken Fist Zombie"
- ArmoredCat "Brick-Breaking Rebuker"
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I have only now realised that I lost the sources point most decisively because my best sources (which come in Round 2) all were not able to be seen as shorturl has temporary lifespan to its shorturls. This is actually extremely terrible as it means someone could link inappropriate material and it would randomly assign the URLs I have used to that. I had no idea shorturl works this way and deletes the link to the longer URL after some time.
Do not use shorturl.at
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This game may not happen, especially if low interest is shown. There will be a thematic split, it may or may not be obvious.
This is semi role-madness. Flavouring will be involved. There will be thirdparty if the cast is big enough.
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