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@iamanabanana
I am just not confident that Casey would put a third party role into this game considering the balance implications of this game. Also I don't understand how you wouldn't just SOP claim 3rd party in the beginning of the game
By voting me, your proving exactly why i wouldn't or shouldn't do that... i am only doing it because i got investigated and have no choice at this point. You can lynch me, it doesn't effect whether i win or lose anyway

You wouldn't be the target of a lynch if you claimed DP1. No one was going to lynch you. Plus the fact you had a fake claim for this role is so off. I have been 3p in a bunch of games and never had a fake claim. 
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@Lunatic
Then again, I forget that banana is new to the game and maybe didn't know better. But still, something throws me off. Especially given the fake claim
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@Lunatic
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From a balance perspective in this game. I really find it hard in a 10 person game to balance a 3P, scum, and town. 

At max, it's 7v2v1. Or it's 8v1v1. 

I am just not confident that Casey would put a third party role into this game considering the balance implications of this game. Also I don't understand how you wouldn't just SOP claim 3rd party in the beginning of the game

Yeah I just find it tough to believe that banana is actually 3p here.

VTL Banana


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So Luna is essentially town locked. Banana claiming 3p basically disregards any chance that Luna was lying about his role because it confirms that both parties have a different affiliation, whether Banana is telling the truth or fake claimed. Important to know. This means that Luna and Wylted from my perspective are essentially town

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Ok so basically bananas claim implicates Luna is town here. 
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Yeah I'm thinking about it. I think what I suggested would take a lot of effort from Luna to do and I think statistically speaking would likely be more scum. The only way this idea I suggested works is if Luna chose two town to pin together and believes he can survive a 1 v 1 with Savant or banana. However I feel that would draw way too much attention to him and would cause a lot of people to look questionably at him. It also narrows the POE if Luna is scum and makes the job harder. It would have to be someone who can easily craft and make a convincing argument if it were a 1v1. I would say out of all the people it would be Luna, but does he have the energy to do this and do you think it is even worth it considering how some of the players are very hard stuck in their ways?

Yeah the more I think about it the more im inclined to believe Luna here

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@Lunatic
However, I am still a bit hesistant to fully buy this claim. If you are scum, you essentially could force 2 mislynches and win this game. Assuming scum still have 2 people, if we lynch both we lose this game. It also is a bit weird that this role is a 1x as well, meaning you can't test it again to see if there is anyone else.
I am definitely not ballsy enough to claim something like this as scum. Also it being more than 1x seems like it would be pretty OP imo. There's no way I am alive tomorrow
I wouldn't say it's too risky of a play IMO. It's a 1x role so you essentially become a vanilla at this point. It's realistically a 50/50 shot but if whoever we choose to lynch is the scum, I would be surprised.
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@Lunatic
Interesting.

Thanks for the justification. I was also having second thoughts with Savant as well so this puts it into perspective. Will say the char claim goes against my theme analysis, but I think that's dead now considering that Wylted was silenced, which I think implies that he is likely town. It would also make Savant a lot more scummier.

However, I am still a bit hesistant to fully buy this claim. If you are scum, you essentially could force 2 mislynches and win this game. Assuming scum still have 2 people, if we lynch both we lose this game. It also is a bit weird that this role is a 1x as well, meaning you can't test it again to see if there is anyone else.

I think it is still beneficial to get claims from both banana and savant, but I still would be hesistant to lynch either of them

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I want to wait for results at this point so I don't want to put pressure until there is any results, but I have a couple of scum leans that I think should be discussed
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Wylted being silenced is interesting.

Also did Pie ever say he was an even night PGO? If he didn't then DAMN. That means mafia have had to have known that Pie was an even night. So scum knows something.

Wylted being silenced also throws a wrench into my theme analysis since his theme was the only outlier of the ones that were claimed in my analysis. I don't think scum team would try and silence their own player. Feel like that would be incredibly ballsy
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Mafia Mod Sign-Up List
Current Mafia:

Casey Risk - ERB Mafia

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None.

In the Hopper:

Mharman - Gunplay Mafia
Austin - Debate Mafia
Wylted- skibidy Toilet
iLikePie5
Lunatic
Earth
Vader - Sopranos Mafia

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None

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DART Mafia Archive
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood Mafia (SupaDudz)

Ancient Roman Battles Mafia (ILikePie5)

TUF Villains Mafia (Lunatic)

Destitution Mafia (Wylted)

Fast Food Mafia (SupaDudz)

Fire Emblem Mafia (Earth)

Pokemon Indigo League Mafia (Polyglot)

Comedians Mafia (Lunatic)

Vanilla Mafia (Disciplus_Didicit)

Bakugan Battle Brawlers Mafia (ILikePie5)

Anime/Game Waifu Mafia (Mikal)

Ozark Mafia (Lunatic)

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ERB Mafia DP1
I am always suspicious of DP3 type claims in this game. I think they are inherently scummy because you are essentially just buying time til a lynch. Especially with Earth's role. I've also seen Luna use these information roles in this game and they seem very scum coded
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It's hard for me to read Luna at this moment. The scum reads on him are very viable and I think his read on Banana is fair, but I sincerely doubt that the mafia partner is going to give their band for band reads on each player. Not to mention it seems like there reads themselves feel more town. FMPOV, I feel scum try to loop a ton of people into scum reads to try and stir the pot and I don't think banana did this.
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Sorry got caught up on some homework last night and passed out early. Gonna give my reads but banana's opening post seems pretty townish IMO. Going in and doing preliminary reads first thing and contributing to town

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I am also not willing to write off GP as town in this game. Millionaire doesn't really seem like a role that's that likely to be in a game and very vauge and useless from my interpretation is incorrect.
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I think Pie has to be town to a degree. I don't want to say too much about my role but reading over my PM, I could see how Casey could put it in the game with a PGO but it feels really swingy. If Pie is scum and is trying out something new, I think we are all fucked.  But I don't think scum Pie is going to take a gambit like this as hes almost a guaranteed lynch at some point in the game. He's usually risk averse and hates gambits as mafia
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@WyIted
This is really sus as the kids would say.


Why you know another man's sleeping habits nigga?


I remember him saying it some time ago and I know last game in the mafia chat with Casey and I he would go to bed at like 1pm and wake up at 9pm. I guess I have a good memory
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#180 not pursue it until the ;attern continues
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Wylted's character sticks out on my theme prediction but I am not going to pursue it. 
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@Savant
@Redeemed
Didn't catch that. Good point

Unvote VTL Redeemed

Play in the game. Why are you hiding???
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@Savant
Can't be certain that scum aren't inactive though. Egos was online 10 hours ago and has 0 posts
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@Egos-platiniums-locos
Alright. Egos was last seen online 10 hours ago. He's been online and clearly has been avoiding to post in this game.

VTL Egos

You have been purposely hiding in this game. Care to actually give a shit?
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@Casey_Risk
Have inactives gotten a ping yet?
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@Savant
I also know on the other hand Luna's sleep schedule is massively fucked lol. Usually in bed by 1pm and is up throughout the night too if I recall so maybe that's playing a role.
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#101 is unclear. By being active, I mean trying to fluff post with question that can generate town to cause drama. Basically what i'm trying to say is that he sees the inactivity in this game and could be using it to just take a ride
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@Savant
Really tough to say but you have a pretty solid point. In fact I feel like if Luna was scum then I feel like he would let town kinda drown themselves out with the lack of activity versus actually contributing. I remember him saying that if he's scum he tries to post questions and all that to generate activity to stir up town. I also know that he's sometimes keen on sitting back and observing as scum when town are going at it.

I think there's some validity to your point, but we have so many inactive and a SOP that I think we'd be taking a MAJOR risk to get a lynch on Lunatic. I am hopeful Wylted comes on or even some of the new members so we can get a better analysis
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Not related to the game but I think Austin has a done a great job and behavior analyzing. I know it's been a while since I played but it seems like he's grown a lot as a player. I was going to wait to the endgame to say something but I've noticed from the last few games he has his improved a lot...

Not affiliation indicative but I think it's worth pointing out
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@AustinL0926
Idk, I'm having a much harder time getting reads than last game, just because there's so little content to work off of and no one's being that scummy
This is 100% true. Unfortunately in games like this it's very tough to accumulate reads. It's only 6 people and in DP1 with little activity it can be hard to get good reads. 
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I really want to give some insights but I feel like that is just grasping at straws that may or may not even be there. 
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I have a slight FoS on Savant

I feel like Savant last game when he was town was a lot less eager to jump on lynches early on and point out little things early on. Makes me feel as if he's looking to try and push an agenda on someone early on. 
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3 inactives are going to hurt us big time if they decide to not be active. Should try to see if we can find replacements soon in case we see no activity
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@ILikePie5
Hmm ok. That gives scum some info but really not a lot to operate fully on making claims
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I also don't know if mafia are gives fake claims in Casey's games? Can anyone verify if they are or aren't. Isn't specific in the DP so I would rather see from other sources what the trend is
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@whiteflame
I have concepts of a vague theme that are following a pattern that I am noticing. I don't want to give too much info away from what I am noticing but I do want to see if any of the claims that come in align with the split
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@whiteflame
@ILikePie5
Not on the list and mine is in S5 if I recall.
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Hmmm. Pie's East vs West stands out on the claims chart but I am not willing to jump to any conclusion yet about chars and theme split. Pie is also playing this game very meta for how he treats SOP. But his meta is usually consistent whether he's town or scum.
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So Grey's role is essentially useless. I don't think I've ever really seen that role being used or it's significance
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Ok I think I have the theme split based on these answers but I'm going to wait for others to come forth with claims
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Hello everyone. I've seen a few of the rap battles but am not a full expert so theme analysis won't be that good from my end
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@whiteflame
Working at a wall for sure, but I think out of all the options avaliable I think we could likely talk you and potentially convince you more versus others
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@ILikePie5
If somehow it got to 2v1 it would've been between You WF and Casey. We wanted to get rid of any WF credibility thru all the innocent cop results to draw a lot of suspicion + not being NK'd
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@ILikePie5
We thought GP was a bulletproof. Could not risk another no kill. The Wylted kill was to throw town off and direct some blame and sus to other directions
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CYR Endgame
Hindsight we should've went for Savant instead of Austin for our DP1 lynch, but our biggest oversight as scum was Savant's RB. Even if we NK'd him, that's our biggest lynch target down the shitter and we could only pursue so many candidates with the ressurector role. 

Hindsight I would've probably chosen Politician and Strongman, with Lawyer and Mason Recruiter as well if I knew about the reviver role. But oh well. Knew balance was going to be swingy
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@ILikePie5
Sorry bro, just had to buy time. Great scum win 
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Choose Your Role DP3
I arise from the dead and light my arson flame
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@whiteflame
If y'all think I'm scum so badly and Casey flips town when you shoot, town is essentially fucked. I always am under the pretense that getting rid of scum first is better than taking a gambit. I obviously am going to disagree with me getting shot because I am town anyway but it is going to be too hard to go post for post on this issue on why Earth should be the lynch
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